I am really sick of

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what I have been reading about how UM's and OSU's schedules are weak..I am reading it all over the internet.

Bottom line is both of these teams are undefeated and are the most balanced and dominating teams in the country.

YO YO YO YO

wake up!

they are undefeated, USC is not, ND is not, ND has played every service academy east and west of mississippi.

as far as I am concerned as of right now, if rutgers wins out and beats WVU at WVU they deserve it...no doubt in my mind.

sorry, just had to vent..

btw,

in the MNC gimme the big ten team + or - whatever.
 
Fine, you got it. $1000...you've got Michigan -40 or Ohio State -40 over TEAM 2...

You can send my winnings to me via Neteller or Paypal...
 
If OSU wins they will play 3 number 2s.....

IF UM wins they will play 2 number 2s and a number 3(wasnt that what ND was when they routed them?)


ENOUGH SAID
 
I understand your anger hunt. But SOS has to account for something.
 
i wouldnt call The schedules WEAK.

At The same Time:

To suggest That They Are As Tough As That of A USC or A CAL is Just plain silly.

i mean heck -- At That point Your HEART is choking Your BRAIN.

ehh!!



'an_horse'
 
The one thing that i think is interesting is the big least. The cards saw what most of the teams in the sec go through all the time. They had a huge game and a huge emotional win, then the next week had to come back and play another huge game. That doesnt happen often in the big 10 or ever in the big east.
 
I have not said anything about Mich or OSU schedules however:

If we are throwing schedules out the window, does that mean an undefeated Rutgers team deserves to go?

If Louisville beats RU and goes undefeated they would go over a 1loss team
If WVU had beat Louisville and than RU, they too would go over a 1loss team
If Rutgers beats both of them, they won't go?

I think if RU is undefeated they deserve to go.. If you want to downplay the Big East, why not downplay the ACC as well... You have Wake Forest and Maryland as the top teams. WVU already put the beatdown on Maryland..

I think all of this talk is nonsense though.. The winner of OSU-Mich is in the championship, that is decided this weekend. The rest will play out as there is too much football left..

RU could lose to WVU and eliminate themselves, USC could lose to Cal than beat Notre Dame, Arky could lose to LSU than beat Florida, and than you have a clusterfuck of a BCS where you could see a rematch...
 
Good points bud, but if southern cal loses to cal this week, they will get murdered by nd the week after. They will have nothing to play for. Then i will jump off a roof.. and USC will be in the holliday bowl or worse..
 
While that is possible, I hope it does not happen. I do not want Notre Dame near the title game. I can not justify in my mind how they should go if OSU beats Michigan either.

ND is simply a good but nothing near great team with more hype than deserved..They beat almost everyone on their schedule, but that schedule is far from strong..

Early struggle with GT (who aint that good)
Penn St (ehhh)
Beatdown by Michigan 47-21
The comeback vs. Mich St (this is where they fell apart)
Wins vs. Purdue and Stanford, and North Carolina..
An 80yard drive to beat UCLA with less than 1min
A tour of the Service Acadmies (Navy, Air Force, & Army)

Finally USC at the end, which is respectable...

Even if USC does lose to Cal, I wouldn't put it past Carrol to have these guys ready to ruin someone elses' season..
 
Rutgers and Boise St define weakass schedule. Rutgers is not quite so bad, but when your big wins consist of Louisville and Wannstadt, perhaps a 1 or even 2 loss team would be better suited.

Unless we want to seriously ponder the idea of a Boise St. (almost beat by Wyoming and SJSU) vs Rutgers National Championship game, then strength of schedule needs to come into play.
 
redbearde said:
Rutgers and Boise St define weakass schedule. Rutgers is not quite so bad, but when your big wins consist of Louisville and Wannstadt, perhaps a 1 or even 2 loss team would be better suited.

Unless we want to seriously ponder the idea of a Boise St. (almost beat by Wyoming and SJSU) vs Rutgers National Championship game, then strength of schedule needs to come into play.
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I think the point I was trying to make is that no one outside of Florida and USC really have a "tough schedule"...Up and down those things are littered with teams that should be dominated..Rutgers has a weak schedule but its not much weaker than Louisville and WVU schedule (both teams would have made the BCS if undefeated)...

I also feel like the ACC gets a pass when talking schedule, granted they don't have anyone in contention for the Title as of now (WAKE?!?!) but they should not be given a pass either. WVU already trumpted their 2nd best team...

I see people hate on the SEC all over and you can hate on Florida's OOC schedule all you want, the fact is that for the other 10 weeks of the yr their games include (Tennessee, Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA, FSU, So Carolina, Vandy, Kentucky) and an SEC championship game (Arkansas)...Now you can pick on teams like Vandy, Kentucky, & So Carolina but the fact remains they are no Ball St and will upset your ass if you don't come to play...Every week in the SEC you have to come to play which is why it batters itself as a conference..

Now that means I feel if UF survives and is 1loss at the end of the yr than they deserve the nod to go over the rest of the 1loss teams despite how unimpressive they have looked lately..
 
USC will play more teams in the top 30 and more bowl team than florida so i dont think if they win out they should go. ( Florida is 2 - 1 against top 30 teams SC is 5 - 1 ) USC has 3 games remaining against top 30, florida has 1.. So lets not make their schedule out to be to tough.

I respect Ohio ST and ND for playing a tough out of conference game.. just so happens the big 10 was down this year thats all, not their fault. I do respect USC for scheduling non conf games of arkansas notre dame and Nebraska just so happens the pac 10 is also the highest ranked conf. this year, i dont know how just is.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm
 
abcs said:
USC will play more teams in the top 30 and more bowl team than florida so i dont think if they win out they should go. ( Florida is 2 - 1 against top 30 teams SC is 5 - 1 ) USC has 3 games remaining against top 30, florida has 1.. So lets not make their schedule out to be to tough.

I respect Ohio ST and ND for playing a tough out of conference game.. just so happens the big 10 was down this year thats all, not their fault. I do respect USC for scheduling non conf games of arkansas notre dame and Nebraska just so happens the pac 10 is also the highest ranked conf. this year, i dont know how just is.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm
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Valid, I lumped USC in with Flor as far as schedules go..... I can see Arky beating UF anyway regardless of the game vs. LSU and that would give USC the upperhand in the BCS.. As far as every1 else, no one has a "tough" schedule that matters at this moment..
 
everythingthatsgreen said:
Valid, I lumped USC in with Flor as far as schedules go..... I can see Arky beating UF anyway regardless of the game vs. LSU and that would give USC the upperhand in the BCS.. As far as every1 else, no one has a "tough" schedule that matters at this moment..
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This conversation will only be useful if USC loses.Arky wont be able to say they deserve to go even if they win out since usc beat them on the road.
Michigan doesnt have near the quality wins to say they deserve a rematch if they lose to Ohio St and same goes for Ohio ST . I mean Ohio St beat Texas and who else?It will be hard to say that they deserve another chance, i mean they havent played a ranked team in like 2+ Months..their last 6 games are against bowling green,mich st, indiana, minny, illinois, northwestern WOW And now their wins over iowa and penn st are even more diluted with how poorly they have looked lately.

Anyway im done debating it, hopefully everything will work itself out. I would like to see Ohio ST win this week, but I dont think either one of these teams is as great as championship teams in years past :shake:
 
redbearde said:
Rutgers and Boise St define weakass schedule. Rutgers is not quite so bad, but when your big wins consist of Louisville and Wannstadt, perhaps a 1 or even 2 loss team would be better suited.

Unless we want to seriously ponder the idea of a Boise St. (almost beat by Wyoming and SJSU) vs Rutgers National Championship game, then strength of schedule needs to come into play.
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I would just like to add that the combined records for ND's wins are 44-48 compared to Rutgers' teams 46-44 mark. Army will certainly not help this cause for ND either..So why only pick on RU schedule? Dismiss the name and background of this team, if they were Football University would you still feel that way towards an undefeated team with a win at home against previously #3..

Another fun stat to look at:

Rutgers 33 - Illionois 0
OSU - 17 - Illinois 10

Now before you jump down my throat, I am not comparing RU to OSU in any sense, all this means is that on any given Saturday anything can happen..

A lot of people are forgetting Rutgers is #2 (Mich is #1 and OSU #3) in the computer rankings .....

I am jumping on the RU bandwagon if they are undefeated at yrs end because I think they deserve a shot..As far as ratings, you have David VS. Goliath match, you will have no trouble filling TV'S with about 75% of people rooting for the underdog.. While I think WVU beats them and ends this debate, RU should not be shut out of the BCS because of their history, something I feel people are using to judge against this team..
 
It tOSU wins out they will have beaten 3 #2 ranked teams in one year. Don't know when the last time that has happened.
 
SHSUHorn said:
It tOSU wins out they will have beaten 3 #2 ranked teams in one year. Don't know when the last time that has happened.
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Ya said it before I could. Could not agree more. Schedule, schmedule...I tOSU runs the table, it will be a great feat. Just don't beat Michigan by more than 6 ;-)
 
I must admit that Ohio States schedule is weak. WHY? Because they play MICHIGAN!


Hahaha...:spank:
 
Something to ponder.......................if there was, say, an 8 team playoff system in place already, how much would that diminish the drama of this game? For non-fans of these two anyway. Think about it for a second...........if there was a PO system, this would be nothing more than a game for seeding purposes. As it is, it's the NC game part I.
Even as just a neutral observer, I'm fuckin stoked for this one. There'll be no running of errands or other nonsense Sat. morning.................unless more alcohol is needed.

SOS? They both had a pair of MAC teams but at least the schedules didn't include any I-AA or D-II schools. Shit, I think every B12 school had one of those on their schedule as well as many other schools from major confs. But if you look at the remaining contenders, they all had rather legit schedules.
 
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