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dudleysdad
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Bennett is a legit TE
Gronk Out for Season
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Lareux
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Since you conveniently didn't answer the first time...of the teams you think have a better shot than the Pats (which wasn't even the argument to begin with), what teams have they beaten? Whose schedule is one that you point to, with your infinite football wisdom, and feel that they have beaten some great teams and they are a legit SB contender?
Zeke
Big Dick and Average Size Boat
If you read my original posts I stated they weren't getting there anyways, with Gronk out their chances certainly don't increase. I'm a fan, I watch every game. My dad & buddy, ditto. We all say the same thing every week..."man they looked like shit, lucky to get out of that one with a W".
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Lareux
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Sure. Fans are a fickle bunch, that's for certain. I read your original posts and don't necessaily disagree. Maybe it's my posts that need to be re-read to understand what I'm saying. It's silly to suggest they have no shot now because Gronk is out. It's the NFL and the parity is right where they want it.
It's just funny to hear people say they have no chance now on one hand, and then talk about how watered down the league is and there isn't really a clear cut "favorite" to begin with. Both really can't be true if we're being honest.
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Lareux
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The ones who said their chances are now nil should be happy to provide you with odds. In their minds, it should be free money.
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dudleysdad
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Nbafan should be here, no?
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Lareux
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Right. The hottest teams in their division are the Dolphins AND the Bills. Both of which the Pats have beaten. They did lose to the Bills...but that was without Brady, AND they beat the Dolphins w/o Brady as well.
Again, I just find it hilarious that some want to say the NFL sucks as a whole, but then in the next breath want to act as if the Pats haven't beat anyone good. You CANNOT have it both ways. If the league sucks as a whole, then NO ONE has beat anyone good, and the argument just loses all credibility. The Pats have victories over at least 4 teams with a winning record, and again one of their losses was without Brady. Of course there are other "contenders" in the league this season, but anyone saying the Pats have zero chance now because Gronk is out simply shouldn't be paid any attention.
It's just one of those things where the Pats have been far and away the "best" team in the NFL for so long (day in and out, organization wide), that when they don't simply blow everyone out they are seen as inferior. They have quite the high standard to live up to. At the same time, those same people will act as if Seattle has a legit shot to win the title, even though they've looked horrible for most of this season. Yes, they did beat the Pats...but that simply goes to show that any team can win a game, and good organizations win games much more often than shitty organizations. Of course the Seahawks have a legit shot at the title should they get into the playoffs, and I wouldn't say any less than that. The hypocrites are the ones who say NE has no shot, but would defend Seattle as having a shot.
Zeke
Big Dick and Average Size Boat
Larry there's some validity to your points for sure. Trust me I remember all too well when the Pats sucked but nowadays their fans have been spoiled & don't believe in them unless they win by DD every week. The non-pink hat fans who actually watch the game just want to see a complete game where they look solid on both sides of the ball. I just haven't seen it this year. However I certainly didn't see it a couple years ago when they started off like shit & won the SB. I however did see it the two years they lost to the Giants in the SB. So who the fuck knows, I'm just not optimistic.
Farm I'm not an oddsmaker & I don't bet against my teams. Last night Bovada had them at -105 I believe to win the AFC, followed by Oakland around +500. Lines seem crazy to me. If I wasn't a fan & had enough left in my account to make it worthwhile I'd throw down on the 2-4 teams.
Farm I'm not an oddsmaker & I don't bet against my teams. Last night Bovada had them at -105 I believe to win the AFC, followed by Oakland around +500. Lines seem crazy to me. If I wasn't a fan & had enough left in my account to make it worthwhile I'd throw down on the 2-4 teams.
cogenman
Raider Nation for Life
The oddsmakers still have NE as the favorite to come out of the AFC. So that should be worth something. NE is a dangerous team. They have depth at the TE spot so they're only going to lose a little bit. Of course Gronk is great. But not when he's injured or slightly injured.
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dudleysdad
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Stick to rugby emkee
Fondybadger
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It's a good thing for the two of you that I wasn't around last night with all the shots you two are taking at emkee. This crap is completely unacceptable.
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