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dont like the move to pitch kershaw today... but he's the best pitcher in baseball so i guess...


buchholz has some great numbers in tampa...

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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.625[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.50[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.167[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.00[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]51[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.975[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.33[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.80[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
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vegas serious on this 7.5u20 total with peavy and hellickson, or do they think it's a 7 inning softball game?
 
Straily on 6 plus
2-2 3.68 ERA
Fister on 6 plus
4-0 2.77 ERA
Reynolds the ump something of a problem
 
those are pretty good numbers but for the life of me i don't know how you extract them into the pressure of a game 4 unless you just don't believe the situation changes anything. i'm leaning over in detroit tomorrow, feel like both teams have some fun at the plate
 
reynolds behind the plate can't hurt the over lean either, day splits might be helpful tho
 
Oakland on Monday 15-5 to Detroit 10-7 now
Oakland on Tuesday is currently 13-12
Detroit on Tuesday 14-8
Fister got nailed last time by Straily 4-14
Really tend to think he is very focused on this game.
 
Straily 2.14 day ERA along with a 7-2 win record and Fister 3.63 in the day with a team record of 6-6. You look at this Detroit team and it just seems impossible to bet on them.
Oakland in the day 39-29 Detroit 32-29
 
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Playoff count after 17 games (incl. Tex/Tby)

Overall
Favs SU: 13-4
Favs RL: 8-9
O/U .. -: 12-5

AL
Favs SU: 5-3
Favs RL: 3-5
O/U .. -: 4-4

NL
Favs SU: 8-1
Favs RL: 5-4
O/U .. -: 8-1

 
I'm going to say it again kind of like the Cards situation yesterday. If you like the Tigers, why lay the juice of -145 to -150 today and just take them for the series at a nice plus number of +230. You'll have to win on the road in game 5 but at least you'll have your ace Mad Max going where he has already won and owned the A's in game 1.

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I don't have a strong feeling for St Louis tomorrow night....crowd will be nuts but I don't know of they can get more than 1 or 2 against Cole. Waino will need to gem for sure. Leaning Cole +140
 
aplous said:
I don't have a strong feeling for St Louis tomorrow night....crowd will be nuts but I don't know of they can get more than 1 or 2 against Cole. Waino will need to gem for sure. Leaning Cole +140
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Probably a 1 run game either way...I am holding a STL +200 series ticket and serioulsy considering taking Pitt +1.5, -170 for a middle oppo...

Anyone think the Baseball Salami @ 15.5 -110 is high? Another middle oppo if the first game is 2-1, 3-2 type of game...
 
Playoff count after 19 games (incl. Tex/Tby)

Overall
Favs SU: 15-4
Favs RL: 10-9
O/U .. -: 13-6

AL
Favs SU: 7-3
Favs RL: 5-5
O/U .. -: 5-5

NL
Favs SU: 8-1
Favs RL: 5-4
O/U .. -: 8-1


 STL winning an Over result on Wednesday would leave the Fav hitting at an 80% clip, & Over hitting at a 70% clip, after the end of the playoff's first phase. Unheard of in my experience. Me thinks that combo aint happening tomorrow.
 
There is this the Days show
Pitt 17-8
Cards 16-9
Pitt is playing off a day off 15-5
Cards off a day off 13-7
Umpire better for Pitt
Really hope I am wrong
 
BetCrimes1984 said:
Playoff count after 19 games (incl. Tex/Tby)

Overall
Favs SU: 15-4
Favs RL: 10-9
O/U .. -: 13-6

AL
Favs SU: 7-3
Favs RL: 5-5
O/U .. -: 5-5

NL
Favs SU: 8-1
Favs RL: 5-4
O/U .. -: 8-1


 STL winning an Over result on Wednesday would leave the Fav hitting at an 80% clip, & Over hitting at a 70% clip, after the end of the playoff's first phase. Unheard of in my experience. Me thinks that combo aint happening tomorrow.
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Wanted to thank BetCrimes for keeping track of this
during the playoffs. Very much appreciated Sir.
 
Verlander was a slight fave against fat ass Colon but now Sonny Gray starting and he's a slight fave. Gonna be a good one. Hope the A's can get some early runs to get the crowd going. First game they never lead and second game they didn't score till the bottom of the 9th. Gotta get off to a good start early.
 
Kevy said:
Wanted to thank BetCrimes for keeping track of this
during the playoffs. Very much appreciated Sir.
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np, Kevy:shake:



Playoff count after 20 games (incl. Tex/Tby)

Overall
Favs SU: 16-4
Favs RL: 11-9
O/U .. -: 14-6

AL
Favs SU: 7-3
Favs RL: 5-5
O/U .. -: 5-5

NL
Favs SU: 9-1
Favs RL: 6-4
O/U .. -: 9-1


I suffered from brain fade in posting my thoughts yesterday, completely forgetting the Tigs & A's had G5 to go, so the Cards/buttPirates G5 obv. didn't wind up the playoff's first phase. I gotta go back to the well (thanks to Hurdle's managing): a Fav/Over combo is the last of the 4 possible I'd expect. But then this seems to be, the like the NFL's 2005 primetime reg. season, one of those situations where the usual statistical norms are simply there to be laid waste to.
 
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cogenman said:
Verlander was a slight fave against fat ass Colon but now Sonny Gray starting and he's a slight fave. Gonna be a good one. Hope the A's can get some early runs to get the crowd going. First game they never lead and second game they didn't score till the bottom of the 9th. Gotta get off to a good start early.
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Kicking myself for not betting the A's to win the series, value gone now and game four woulda been a freeroll. To make matters worse i laid off Parker at a price I could handle because I was hoping they'd be down 2-0 needing a win.

now I have no idea what to do/need plus-money to fade Zoolander even at home with a much better bullpen
 
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