Coaches and ATS Records in Bowls?

Frank Costanza · Dec 10, 2019

Anyone seen this info anywhere? Always interested in this for a variety of reasons. I know Whittingham is now 11-2 SU and 9-4 ATS. Just did a quick search on him as I recall his success. Couldn't find a full list of records anywhere.

Thanks in advance.

pressitup · Dec 14, 2019

pressitup · Dec 14, 2019

	SU	ATS

coach = Bill Clark	1 – 1	1 – 1
coach = Billy Napier	0 – 1	0 – 1
coach = Blake Anderson	1 – 4	1 – 4
coach = Brian Kelly	7 – 3	4 – 6
coach = Bronco Mendenhall	7 – 6	7 – 6
coach = Bryan Harsin	3 – 1	3 – 1
coach = Butch Davis	6 – 3	7 – 1 – 1
coach = Chad Lunsford	1 – 0	0 – 0 -1
coach = Chris Creighton	0 – 2	1 – 0 – 1
coach = Chris Klieman	0	0
coach = Chris Petersen	6 – 5	7 – 4
coach = Chuck Martin	0 – 1	1 – 0
coach = Clay Helton	2 – 2	1 – 3
coach = Craig Bohl	1 – 1	2 – 0
coach = Dabo Swinney	10 – 4	9 – 5
coach = Dan Mullen	6 – 2	4 – 4
coach = Dave Clawson	3 – 3	2 – 3 – 1
coach = Doc Holliday	6 – 0	6 – 0
coach = Ed Orgeron	2 – 1	2 – 1
coach = Eliah Drinkwitz	0	0
coach = Frank Solich	6 – 9	7 – 7 – 1
coach = Gary Andersen	1 – 2	1 – 2
coach = Gus Malzahn	2 – 4	3 – 3

pressitup · Dec 14, 2019

coach = Herm Edwards	0 – 2	0 – 2
coach = Hugh Freeze	3 – 2	3 – 2
coach = James Franklin	4 – 4	5 – 3
coach = Jay Hopson	1 – 1	1 – 1
coach = Jay Norvell	1 – 0	1 – 0
coach = Jeremy Pruitt	0	0
coach = Jim Harbaugh	2 – 4	3 – 3
coach = Jim McElwain	2 – 1	2 – 1
coach = Jimbo Fisher	7 – 2	6 – 2 – 1
coach = Joe Moorhead	1 – 1	1 – 1
coach = Josh Heupel	1 – 1	1 – 1
coach = Justin Fuente	2 – 2	3 – 1
coach = Justin Wilcox	0 – 1	0 – 1
coach = Kalani Sitake	2 – 0	1 – 1
coach = Ken Niumatalolo	5 – 5	7 – 3
coach = Kirby Smart	1 – 1	1 – 1
coach = Kirk Ferentz	8 – 8	10 – 6
coach = Kyle Whittingham	8 – 4	10 – 2
coach = Lance Leipold	0-1	0-1
coach = Lane Kiffin	1 – 2	1 – 2
coach = Lincoln Riley	0 – 2	1 – 1
coach = Lovie Smith	0	0
coach = Luke Fickell	1 – 1	0 – 2
coach = Mack Brown	13 – 8	9 – 12
coach = Manny Diaz	0	0
coach = Mark Dantonio	6 – 5	7 – 3 – 1
coach = Mark Stoops	1 – 2	2 – 1
coach = Marlo Cristobal	1 – 1	0 – 1 – 1
coach = Matt Campbell	3 – 2	3 – 2
coach = Matt Rhule	1 – 1	1 – 1

pressitup · Dec 14, 2019

coach = Mike Gundy	9 – 4	8 – 5
coach = Mike Leach	5 – 10	8 – 7
coach = Mike Norvell	0 – 3	0 – 3
coach = Nick Rolovich	1 – 1	1 – 1
coach = Nick Saban	8 – 7	8 – 7
coach = Odell Haggins	0	0
coach = Pat Narduzzi	0 – 3	1 – 2
coach = Paul Chryst	5 – 1	4 – 1 – 1
coach = PJ Fleck	2 – 2	2 – 1 – 1
coach = Rocky Long	4 – 9	4 – 9
coach = Rod Carey	0 – 6	0 – 6
coach = Ryan Day	1 – 0	0 – 1
coach = Scott Satterfield	4 – 0	3 – 1
coach = Sean Lewis	0	0
coach = Skip Holtz	7 – 3	7 – 3
coach = Sonny Dykes	2 – 5	3 – 4
coach = Steve Addazio	2 – 3	2 – 3
coach = Tim Lester	0 – 1	0 – 1
coach = Tom Allen	0 – 1	1 – 0
coach = Tom Herman	3 – 1	3 – 1
coach = Troy Calhoun	4 – 5	5 – 4
coach = Tyson Helton	0	0
coach = Will Healy	0	0
coach = Willie Fritz	2 – 0	2 – 0

s--k · Dec 14, 2019

Good work @pressitup !

s--k · Dec 14, 2019

Rod Carey 0-6. Just so happens my favorite bowl game might be UNC. Nice!

M.W. · Dec 17, 2019

pressitup said:
coach = Mike Gundy
9 – 4
8 – 5
coach = Mike Leach
5 – 10
8 – 7
coach = Mike Norvell
0 – 3
0 – 3
coach = Nick Rolovich
1 – 1
1 – 1
coach = Nick Saban
8 – 7
8 – 7
coach = Odell Haggins
0
0
coach = Pat Narduzzi
0 – 3
1 – 2
coach = Paul Chryst
5 – 1
4 – 1 – 1
coach = PJ Fleck
2 – 2
2 – 1 – 1
coach = Rocky Long
4 – 9
4 – 9
coach = Rod Carey
0 – 6
0 – 6
coach = Ryan Day
1 – 0
0 – 1
coach = Scott Satterfield
4 – 0
3 – 1
coach = Sean Lewis
0
0
coach = Skip Holtz
7 – 3
7 – 3
coach = Sonny Dykes
2 – 5
3 – 4
coach = Steve Addazio
2 – 3
2 – 3
coach = Tim Lester
0 – 1
0 – 1
coach = Tom Allen
0 – 1
1 – 0
coach = Tom Herman
3 – 1
3 – 1
coach = Troy Calhoun
4 – 5
5 – 4
coach = Tyson Helton
0
0
coach = Will Healy
0
0
coach = Willie Fritz
2 – 0
2 – 0

Or

https://sportsdatabase.com/ncaafb/query?output=default&sdql=game+type+%3D+BG+and+coach&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++

M.W. · Dec 17, 2019

s--k said:
Rod Carey 0-6. Just so happens my favorite bowl game might be UNC. Nice!

Not just 0-6. 0-6 by an average of 18.33. And he's worse in the 2H.

pressitup · Dec 17, 2019

M.W. said:
Or

https://sportsdatabase.com/ncaafb/query?output=default&sdql=game+type+%3D+BG+and+coach&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++

yeah, that was all coaches. I couldn't figure out how to parse just the 2019 coaches, so just moved the data by copy paste.
I might have missed some.

pressitup · Dec 17, 2019

• Dabo Swinney (Clemson): 9-1 ATS in last 10 bowl games, 6-1
ATS in playoffs.
• Doc Holliday (Marshall): Seven straight bowl wins, defense
yielding just 18.3 PPG.
• Kyle Whittingham (Utah): 11-2 record in bowl games, 9-4
ATS.
• Paul Chryst (Wisconsin): 4-0 SU and ATS with Badgers, 5-0 SU
and ATS last five overall.
• Dan Mullen (Florida): 6-2 record with Mississippi State and
Florida.
• Skip Holtz (Louisiana Tech): 5-0 SU and ATS record for
Bulldogs.
• Scott Satterfield (Louisville): 3-0 SU and ATS with Appalachian
State, average MOV 23 PPG.
• Ken Niumatalolo (Navy): 4-1 SU and 5-0 ATS surge for
Midshipmen.
• Mike Gundy (Oklahoma State): 9-4 SU and 8-5 ATS in bowl
games, three straight wins.
• Tom Herman (Texas): 3-0 SU and ATS in bowl games, three
upset wins.

• Rod Carey (Temple): Six straight outright and ATS bowl game
losses while with Northern Illinois, average MOL 25.2 PPG.
• Jim Harbaugh (Michigan): Three straight outright and ATS losses
for Wolverines.
• Clay Helton (USC): Four straight ATS losses.
• Mike Leach (Washington State): 4-10 ATS in 14 career bowl
games.

M.W. · Dec 17, 2019

pressitup said:
yeah, that was all coaches. I couldn't figure out how to parse just the 2019 coaches, so just moved the data by copy paste.
I might have missed some.

Thanks. That must have been a lot of work.

Frank Costanza · Dec 17, 2019

Thanks, Press!

Frank Costanza · Dec 17, 2019

I can never get past this when I see Rod Carey's name.

pressitup · Dec 17, 2019

Hope it helps.

CTG answers all requests.

bones · Dec 17, 2019

pressitup said:
• Dabo Swinney (Clemson): 9-1 ATS in last 10 bowl games, 6-1
ATS in playoffs.
• Doc Holliday (Marshall): Seven straight bowl wins, defense
yielding just 18.3 PPG.
• Kyle Whittingham (Utah): 11-2 record in bowl games, 9-4
ATS.
• Paul Chryst (Wisconsin): 4-0 SU and ATS with Badgers, 5-0 SU
and ATS last five overall.
• Dan Mullen (Florida): 6-2 record with Mississippi State and
Florida.
• Skip Holtz (Louisiana Tech): 5-0 SU and ATS record for
Bulldogs.
• Scott Satterfield (Louisville): 3-0 SU and ATS with Appalachian
State, average MOV 23 PPG.
• Ken Niumatalolo (Navy): 4-1 SU and 5-0 ATS surge for
Midshipmen.
• Mike Gundy (Oklahoma State): 9-4 SU and 8-5 ATS in bowl
games, three straight wins.
• Tom Herman (Texas): 3-0 SU and ATS in bowl games, three
upset wins.

• Rod Carey (Temple): Six straight outright and ATS bowl game
losses while with Northern Illinois, average MOL 25.2 PPG.
• Jim Harbaugh (Michigan): Three straight outright and ATS losses
for Wolverines.
• Clay Helton (USC): Four straight ATS losses.
• Mike Leach (Washington State): 4-10 ATS in 14 career bowl
games.

:clapping2::clapping2::clapping2:

M.W. · Dec 17, 2019

pressitup said:
• Kyle Whittingham (Utah): 11-2 record in bowl games, 9-4
ATS.

But 0-1 off a conf champ game loss. Utes were -6.5 v. NW last year and lost 31-20.

s--k · Dec 19, 2019

M.W. said:
But 0-1 off a conf champ game loss. Utes were -6.5 v. NW last year and lost 31-20.

True, but Utah led 20-3 halftime last year then NW got 28 unanswered pts in the 3rd Q (NW +5 TOs in the game)

s--k · Dec 19, 2019

Chris Peterson is actually just 1-4 SU and 2-3 ATS at UW in bowls.

The last 3 years losses vs top ten ranked Ohio St, Penn St, Alabama.

Not the greatest Washington team, but doesn't really feel like a uniquely outstanding Boise team either this year, a step down to what UW has been facing in bowls recently.

Last time he faced a Group of 5 team in a bowl was 2015 Heart of Dallas, 6-6 Huskies faced a 9-4 Southern Miss. UW-8 and won 44-31.

Peterson's last game, vs old team, in a 3 game post season drought...vs not really great Boise team feels like a Washington win to me, even without Bryant. UW has some O issues, although feel their D should matchup well here.

2daBank · Dec 20, 2019

s--k said:
Chris Peterson is actually just 1-4 SU and 2-3 ATS at UW in bowls.

The last 3 years losses vs top ten ranked Ohio St, Penn St, Alabama.

Not the greatest Washington team, but doesn't really feel like a uniquely outstanding Boise team either this year, a step down to what UW has been facing in bowls recently.

Last time he faced a Group of 5 team in a bowl was 2015 Heart of Dallas, 6-6 Huskies faced a 9-4 Southern Miss. UW-8 and won 44-31.

Peterson's last game, vs old team, in a 3 game post season drought...vs not really great Boise team feels like a Washington win to me, even without Bryant. UW has some O issues, although feel their D should matchup well here.

That would be only side I could play. Seems like anytime I backed huskies this season Eason made a god awful play some point in second half to screw me. Lean that way, not sure if I’ll play.

Frank Costanza · Dec 20, 2019

Not directly bowl-related but related to today....I don't recall how good Gary Anderson was ATS at Utah State during his 2009-2012 run there but I recall it being a damn good run, as in crazy good.

Time flies, wow.

s--k · Dec 20, 2019

Frank Costanza said:
Not directly bowl-related but related to today....I don't recall how good Gary Anderson was ATS at Utah State during his 2009-2012 run there but I recall it being a damn good run, as in crazy good.

Time flies, wow.

Good enough to get the Wisconsin job!

Pretty sure it's known although didn't see it mentioned here, 3 players busted for pot including QB Love but expected to play.

s--k · Dec 20, 2019

2daBank said:
That would be only side I could play. Seems like anytime I backed huskies this season Eason made a god awful play some point in second half to screw me. Lean that way, not sure if I’ll play.

As of right now, that is my only legitimate worry, Eason being off the mark and Boise DBs making plays.

CPA-hole · Dec 20, 2019

Didnt think this was a really good MW season either outside of Air Force. Nevada and Utah St were down
Fresno was way down and SDSU was SDSU. Didnt seem vintage Boise to me. Still hard for me to trust Eason. He has so much ability but makes some very questionable decisions. No play for me.

CPA-hole · Dec 20, 2019

Didnt include Hawaii because I still dont really know what to make of them and Boise got them twice on the blue turf.

2daBank · Dec 21, 2019

s--k said:
As of right now, that is my only legitimate worry, Eason being off the mark and Boise DBs making plays.

The more I look at this one the more under has appeal to me, any thoughts on total? Seems like a game low 20s should take it barring any pick 6s.

2daBank · Dec 21, 2019

CPA-hole said:
Didnt think this was a really good MW season either outside of Air Force. Nevada and Utah St were down
Fresno was way down and SDSU was SDSU. Didnt seem vintage Boise to me. Still hard for me to trust Eason. He has so much ability but makes some very questionable decisions. No play for me.

Kinda same way I feel, Boise def down but I don’t trust Eason and Boise seems to love beating pac-12 teams. Those 2 things enough to keep me off a side. Under makes some sense I think:

bones · Dec 22, 2019

The Best and Worst ATS Coaches in Bowl Season
https://myaction.app/lysxY0syD2

Frank Costanza · Dec 23, 2019

The 2013 New Mexico Bowl should count as two ATS losses for that clown Leach. It was that bad.

B.A.R. · Dec 23, 2019

Frank Costanza said:
The 2013 New Mexico Bowl should count as two ATS losses for that clown Leach. It was that bad.

Still makes me mad.

bones · Dec 23, 2019

I had Wazzu too

Frank Costanza · Dec 23, 2019

Unbridled idiocy.

pressitup · Dec 27, 2019

Today

Mackie (13-8/9-12) vs. Carey (0-6/0-6)

Dantonio (6-5/7-3-1) vs. Clawson (3-3/2-3-1)

Gundy (9-4/8-5) vs. Jimbo (7-2/6-2-1)

Helton (2-2/1-3) vs. Ferentz (8-8/10-6)

Calhoun (4-5/5-4) vs. Leach (5-10/8-7)

If I get time I will go back through the completed games, but I doubt it gleans much.

pressitup · Dec 27, 2019

One of my largest bowl plays last year was on the Aggies.
Not because I'm a homer, but because I felt Jimbo wanted to have that good showing for the money spent and the obvious recruiting implications.
Part of the reason I like UNC today.
Here are coaches in their first year with a program.

Carey/Temple
Mackie/UNC
Scatterfield/Louisville
Diaz/Miami---proof that blindly betting this could be hazardous to your bankroll.
Klieman/KSU
Day/OSU
Healy/Charlotte---got dusted
Helton/WKU
Freeze/Liberty ---won SU as 5pt dogs
McElwain/CMU --- curbstomped
Anderson/USU --- lost as 7pt faves
Drinkwitz/AppySt --- won, failed to cover 17pt

Perhaps the edge is seasoned/motivational coaches, but not sure that's it. Watching their pressers will probably give us a clue.
I wanted to go through the possibilities, so here is the info.

2daBank · Dec 27, 2019

pressitup said:
One of my largest bowl plays last year was on the Aggies.
Not because I'm a homer, but because I felt Jimbo wanted to have that good showing for the money spent and the obvious recruiting implications.
Part of the reason I like UNC today.
Here are coaches in their first year with a program.

Carey/Temple
Mackie/UNC
Scatterfield/Louisville
Diaz/Miami---proof that blindly betting this could be hazardous to your bankroll.
Klieman/KSU
Day/OSU
Healy/Charlotte---got dusted
Helton/WKU
Freeze/Liberty ---won SU as 5pt dogs
McElwain/CMU --- curbstomped
Anderson/USU --- lost as 7pt faves
Drinkwitz/AppySt --- won, failed to cover 17pt

Perhaps the edge is seasoned/motivational coaches, but not sure that's it. Watching their pressers will probably give us a clue.
I wanted to go through the possibilities, so here is the info.

I like the angle just not blindly. I prefer it be coaches that came in and clearly have program on a upward trajectory/are good at their jobs!

Thought it was great for unc today, I like ville for lot of same reasons, to be here from where they were last year and with a coach that appears as competent as saterfield I gotta assume they took full advantage of the extra practices and will be incredibly excited to end the year on a great note.

On the other hand i thought Miami showed all the signs you don’t want, bunch of guys sitting out, team that no showed during reg season several times, ended the year losing as favs multiple times. They had the stench of already needing another new coach. Lol.

Not thrilled to be against k-st cause i think their coach prob closer to the jobs done at unc and ville this year but I just really like navy.

pressitup · Dec 28, 2019

Yesterday's recap.
Carey and Leach did not disappoint
Jimbo continues a nice SU record, his D left the backdoor open.
Between the two that were virtually even SU, the better ATS records prevailed.

Today
Kelly (7-3/4-6) vs. Campbell (3-2/3-2)

Silverfield(0/0) vs. Franklin (4-4/5-3)

Riley (0-2/1-1) vs. Orgeron (2-1/2-1)

Swinney (10-4/9-5) vs. Day (1-0/0-1)

pressitup · Dec 30, 2019

Experience ruled the day Saturday.

Today

Helton (0/0)* vs. Lester (0-1/0-1)

Moorehead (1-1/1-1) vs. Satterfield (4-0/3-1)*

Wilcox (0-1/0-1) vs. Smith (0/0)*

Mullen (6-2/4-4)* vs. Mendenhall (7-6/7-6)

*=Games I'm on

pressitup · Dec 31, 2019

Had a couple get off the snide .
Satterfield increases his total
Bronco bucks his way to a cover

Today

Fuente (2-2/3-1) vs. Stoops (1-2/2-1)

Edwards (0-2/0-2)* vs. Haggins (0/0)

Niumatalolo (5-5/7-3) vs. Klieman (0/0)

Bohl (1-1/2-0) vs. Elliott (1-0/1-0)

Whittingham (10-2/8-4) vs. Herman (3-1/3-1)

booksbestfriend · Dec 31, 2019

pressitup said:
Had a couple get off the snide .
Satterfield increases his total
Bronco bucks his way to a cover

Today

Fuente (2-2/3-1) vs. Stoops (1-2/2-1)

Edwards (0-2/0-2)* vs. Haggins (0/0)

Niumatalolo (5-5/7-3) vs. Klieman (0/0)

Bohl (1-1/2-0) vs. Elliott (1-0/1-0)

Whittingham (10-2/8-4) vs. Herman (3-1/3-1)

Haggins 1-0. He coached the Jimboless Noles to victory 2 years ago. Not that it really matters.

pressitup · Dec 31, 2019

booksbestfriend said:
Haggins 1-0. He coached the Jimboless Noles to victory 2 years ago. Not that it really matters.

just going by the sportsdatabase. I know it seems to differ with some on Whittingham.
I had to search to see who was coaching the bowl.

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