KowboyKarl
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2008 - Morneau
1h, 95 games..... 14 hrs, 63 rbi, .323
2h, 68 games..... 9 hrs, 61 rbi, .267
1h, 95 games..... 14 hrs, 63 rbi, .323
2h, 68 games..... 9 hrs, 61 rbi, .267
Chris Davis
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Lareux
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Abreu hit 18 in the first half of 2005, and then 6 in the 2nd half.
The only other guy who would qualify for this "curse" is David Wright, in 2006. He hit 20 in the first half, and then 6 in the 2nd half.
The only other guy who would qualify for this "curse" is David Wright, in 2006. He hit 20 in the first half, and then 6 in the 2nd half.
KowboyKarl
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2007 - Vladimir
1h, 85 games..... 14 hrs, 75 rbi, .325
2h, 65 games..... 13 hrs, 50 rbi, .323
1h, 85 games..... 14 hrs, 75 rbi, .325
2h, 65 games..... 13 hrs, 50 rbi, .323
KowboyKarl
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2006 - Howard
1h, 84 games..... 28 hrs, 71 rbi, .278
2h, 75 games..... 30 hrs, 78 rbi, .355
1h, 84 games..... 28 hrs, 71 rbi, .278
2h, 75 games..... 30 hrs, 78 rbi, .355
reNew Orleans
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i think 'the curse' refers to finalists. one of the 2 guys seems to suffer in the 2H.
thats a pretty random coincidence because Im sure you can go and pick any 2 players and find that one of those 2 drops off a bit.
thats a pretty random coincidence because Im sure you can go and pick any 2 players and find that one of those 2 drops off a bit.
KowboyKarl
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2005 - Abreu
1h, 88 games..... 18 hrs, 58 rbi, .307
2h, 73 games..... 6 hrs, 44 rbi, .260
1h, 88 games..... 18 hrs, 58 rbi, .307
2h, 73 games..... 6 hrs, 44 rbi, .260
KowboyKarl
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2004 - Tejada
1h, 85 games..... 15 hrs, 75 rbi, .311
2h, 77 games..... 19 hrs, 75 rbi, .311
1h, 85 games..... 15 hrs, 75 rbi, .311
2h, 77 games..... 19 hrs, 75 rbi, .311
D-Woww
Old Man Dan
guys, the "curse" is simply regression.
the hr derby is made up of guys who are among the league leaders in home runs. inevitably, some of those hr numbers are flukes and not indications of the guys true power. so in the second half, that player regresses to his true potential, it looks like a huge dive.
Abreu had 20 in the 1st half and 6 in the second. Overall, he was about a 26hr a year kind of guy, not a 40 homer a year guy. he just happened to hit most of his in the first half that year. Regression, plain and simple.
the hr derby is made up of guys who are among the league leaders in home runs. inevitably, some of those hr numbers are flukes and not indications of the guys true power. so in the second half, that player regresses to his true potential, it looks like a huge dive.
Abreu had 20 in the 1st half and 6 in the second. Overall, he was about a 26hr a year kind of guy, not a 40 homer a year guy. he just happened to hit most of his in the first half that year. Regression, plain and simple.
KowboyKarl
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Well, after going over the past 9 champions it seems to me that the "curse" is just a myth.
Some guys seem to have better 1st halfs and others have better 2nd halfs.
Even Abreu wasn't a huge difference, imo... Sure, his hrs and rbi were down in the 2h, but, he did play 89 games 1h vs 73 games 2h. He did still bring in 44 rbi in those 73 games. Simply could've been a normal slump, it happens.
So now, like I said, I think the "curse" is simply a myth.
Some guys seem to have better 1st halfs and others have better 2nd halfs.
Even Abreu wasn't a huge difference, imo... Sure, his hrs and rbi were down in the 2h, but, he did play 89 games 1h vs 73 games 2h. He did still bring in 44 rbi in those 73 games. Simply could've been a normal slump, it happens.
So now, like I said, I think the "curse" is simply a myth.
KowboyKarl
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A lot of these guys have had better 2hs than 1hs... Kinda forgot how much of a monster Howard was back in '06. Just sick numbers, especially in the 2h...he hit .355 in the 2h? Wow. And 30 bombs and 78 rbi to go with it...in just 75 games.
reNew Orleans
Clubbin' with Rasual Butler
i have work to do and instead im in this pointless thread 
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JumpOnBoard
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the 2h is also 15-18 games shorter.
KowboyKarl
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Geezus...look at Josh Hamilton in 2008
KowboyKarl
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Completely went nuts and wore himself out in the 1st round...
detroit187
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detroit187
Pretty much a regular
lasik surgery, hgh, its all the same, who cares.
if mlb cant catch them (and you know they want to), then i am not concerned. to me guys get the benefit of the doubt if they have never been found guilty.
after that, all bets are off. (bart colon, melky, aroid, braun) assuming their second batch of guilt is found.
people should get off baseball players and worry more about football players.
if mlb cant catch them (and you know they want to), then i am not concerned. to me guys get the benefit of the doubt if they have never been found guilty.
after that, all bets are off. (bart colon, melky, aroid, braun) assuming their second batch of guilt is found.
people should get off baseball players and worry more about football players.
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Lareux
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It was the most exciting HR Derby I can remember though. That 1st round was epic.
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Son_of_A_Legend
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I saw this a number of times in the mentioned thread (HGH) but what is HGH?
JumpOnBoard
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Lareux
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Human Growth Hormone. Produced naturally in your pituitary gland.
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
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