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Fresno vs Toledo Notes

Back in August, many circled Fresno State's Sept. 20 football game at Toledo.
Not because the Rockets are a power. They were 5-7 last season, 3-5 in the Mid-American Conference -- the kind of team that has hurt Fresno State in the past.
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Besides their reputation of knuckling up to play any team in any stadium at any time in the schedule, the Bulldogs (1-1) are also known for having unexplainable losses to teams they should have beaten.

Highs like hanging with USC in 2005 would be followed by a head-scratching, four-game losing streak.

The 2006 team with so much promise lost to Utah State amid a seven-game losing streak. The 2004 team beat Kansas State and Washington in its first three games and then lost to Texas-El Paso during a three-game losing streak.

On Monday, coach Pat Hill once again made sure to describe this weekend's contest as a "big game" and put the onus on his 12 seniors to make sure Fresno State is ready to bounce back from Saturday's woulda-coulda-shoulda loss to Wisconsin.

"It's up to this team to understand that they need to play at the highest level every week," Hill said. "It wasn't about Wisconsin beating Fresno. It was our inability to finish it. And it's not going to be about Toledo in this game, it's going to be about us.

"That's the secret to being consistent. Taking care of your house."
Quarterback Tom Brandstater, a fifth-year senior, said it was time for the senior leaders to step up.

"There are too many young guys on this team that can go either way," Brandstater said Saturday after the game, "and it's up to the leaders to make sure that we go in the right direction."

The preparation for Saturday's game on ESPNU began with Sunday's practice and continues today as the Bulldogs practice without a "win flag" flapping in the breeze.

That preparation will include improving on areas in which they were successful and unsuccessful. First a few of the successes:
Sophomore punter Robert Malone was named the Western Athletic Conference special teams player of the week after punting four times for an average of 47.8 yards.
Fresno State's defense was mostly stellar, especially in the second half as it held Wisconsin to 102 yards. The Badgers' offense, was held to 179 yards below its total offense average and 31.5 points below its scoring average.

Sophomore receiver Devon Wylie had the game of his young career before injuring his foot in the fourth quarter, making two catches for 62 yards and a touchdown.
His status for this week's practice and game is uncertain, Hill said, as the results of the MRI were not yet available Monday morning.

The highs were great, "But once again," Hill said, "13-10's the bottom line and there are no moral victories in that at all."
Several plays that helped lead to the loss can be fixed in time for the Toledo game.

For instance, after making a game-saving catch on a long third down against Rutgers, a leaping Seyi Ajirotutu let a pass bounce off his chest on the Bulldogs' last offensive drive of the game. The catch could have led to another Fresno State score, which could have tied the score. Or, better yet, won it. There were at least four dropped balls against Rutgers.
The Bulldogs missed three of four field goals. In his second start, redshirt freshman Kevin Goessling missed from 47 yards, 51 yards and 35 yards. He made his kick from 33 yards.

The Bulldogs fumbled on a punt return, leading to the winning field goal. They committed two turnovers that led to 10 points.
One thing Hill won't be worried about as his team prepares for Toledo is the call he made to punt on fourth-and-16 and give Wisconsin the ball with 1:55 to play and a three-point lead.
"If we don't make it, we're stuck out there at midfield," Hill said. "All we needed was a field goal. If we needed a touchdown, I go for it. My thinking was the defense was playing great."
 
Troy Trojan Notes


COLUMBUS (AP) -- Just what reeling Ohio State needed -- another bunch of confident Trojans.
After getting lashed by top-ranked Southern California 35-3, Ohio State has a huge task ahead just rebuilding its battered confidence.
Troy, the 13th-ranked Buckeyes' opponent on Saturday, doesn't have that problem.
"I've seen the highlights of it," Troy linebacker Bear Woods said Monday, referring to USC's nationally televised landslide victory over the Buckeyes on Saturday night. "USC held them to one and a half yards per carry."
The Trojans -- the 2-0 ones from Troy, Ala., not the ones ranked No. 1 from Los Angeles -- believe they've got a shot at the wounded Buckeyes.
"It makes us real confident," cornerback Jorrick Calvin said. "We had a big game this week and the offense put up some pretty good numbers. Going up there and them just losing a big game like that, I think they'll be hurting and they could get beat again."
Asked if he was predicting a Troy victory, Calvin backed off, saying, "I won't predict anything. I'll just predict a good game."
The Buckeyes (2-1) returned to the practice field on Monday, most likely trying hard to push aside all the negativity surrounding the program. Practice, as usual, was closed to the media, and players were not available to speak -- also normal for a Monday.
The Buckeyes had a streak of 141 consecutive games scoring at least one touchdown snapped, dating to Nov. 23, 1996, a 13-9 loss to Michigan. It was also their worst loss since a 63-14 defeat at Penn State in 1994 -- which was also No. 1 at the time.
"If we play like that the rest of the season, we won't be anything," offensive tackle Alex Boone said after the game.
Ohio State scored first -- just as it had in the Bowl Championship Series title games the last two years before losing to Florida 41-14 and LSU 38-24 -- and fell behind 21-3 at the half. Then things got really ugly, with USC outgaining the Buckeyes 135-2 in the third quarter. Ohio State had minus-2 net rushing yards in the second half.
At almost the same time, Troy walloped Alcorn State 65-0, setting numerous school records along the way.
Alcorn State was able to pick up just 120 yards of total offense with nine first downs against Troy's defense. On the other side of the ball, sophomore quarterback Jamie Hampton only played a half but completed 26 of 37 passes for 323 yards and four touchdowns. Troy led 52-0 after two quarters.
No wonder Troy, which is an early three-touchdown underdog, feels pretty good about its chances -- both because of the way it has played in two wins and how the Buckeyes played at the L.A. Coliseum.
"USC is a great football team," Woods said. "You can't really hold that against Ohio State. It was a beatdown but USC really has a great team this year. Ohio State is a great team, and great teams bounce back."
Alcorn State will never be mistaken for the Buckeyes. And running up a big win before 22,105 at Movie Gallery Veterans Stadium isn't nearly the same as making a point before more than 105,000 partisan fans at Ohio Stadium.
"What's important to us is we roll up our sleeves and go back to work and see if we can become a better football team," Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel said after the USC loss.
 
Ohio State Notes

In the wake of a lopsided loss at Southern California, Ohio State is going to make some adjustments, coach Jim Tressel said today, and two of those will be more playing time for freshman quarterback Terrelle Pryor and less for senior Todd Boeckman.


In fact, when asked at his press luncheon today whether the starting job for Saturday's game with Troy is up for grabs, Tressel couched his answer. That's because he said he and the coaches sort of couched it as they discussed an "if the game were tonight" scenario late Monday night.
"We came to the consensus that if the game were last night, we would probably have Todd and Terrelle playing about 50-50 in the game," Tressel said.

Who would start would be based more on situation than seniority, he indicated, and that could change these next two days of serious practice.
But what came through loud and clear was among the myriad things the Buckeyes didn't do well in the 35-3 loss, the pick-six that the experienced Boeckman gave up to USC linebacker Rey Maualuga just before halftime was a cardinal sin. Instead of maybe going in to the break down 14-3, the Buckeyes were behind 21-3 and never recovered.

"You can't have turnovers (Boeckman threw two interceptions and lost a fumble), most especially a turnover for a touchdown," Tressel said.
That he expected more in such a big game from what amounts to a sixth-year senior and second-year starting quarterback was left understood. Now the Pryor era is coming to fruition maybe sooner than some expected.
Tressel was impressed with the freshman's poise in the glare of the Los Angeles Coliseum lights and the national stage even though neither quarterback -- despite sharing time, sometimes play to play -- led the team to a touchdown.

"If you knew nothing about football and you were at the game watching, you would never take away the (thought) that was a freshman playing his first significant amount of (college) football," Tressel said of Pryor, who had no turnovers.

Oh, and what's up with tailback Chris "Beanie" Wells, who missed his second straight game because of a jammed right forefoot?
"Beanie might be listed as questionable," Tressel said, adding that Wells ran well in a sideline workout yesterday. His status should become more clear the next couple of days if or when he participates in practice.
At the same time, Tressel quashed the internet rumor that Wells needs surgery to repair his foot. Tressel said surgery has never been discussed.
Now the Buckeyes must regroup as they prepare to host another group of dangerous Trojans. From the city of Troy in south-central Alabama, the Trojans under coach Larry Blakeney moved up to major college status in 2001 and made a pledge.

"They said that on the road to Division I, they wanted to go to every great stadium in America and introduce themselves to that team," Tressel said.
The Trojans are coming off a 65-0 home win over Alcorn State in which they amassed more than 700 yards total offense. Two weeks earlier they opened with a 31-17 win over Middle Tennessee State, which went on to beat Maryland.

Troy is dangerous, but for OSU fans, the agony lingers of watching the Buckeyes lose for the third straight time in a high-profile game to an intersectional power (including the last two national title game losses to Florida and LSU). If those fans have concerns, criticisms or even doubts, Tressel said that's as it should be.

"We want to be evaluated on where we are in terms of being the best," he said.
 
My Favorite Conference...



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[SIZE=+2]1][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Arkansas State (2-1, 0-0 SBC)
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The skinny: The Red Wolves came within three points of starting the season 3-0 and are showing that they are the strongest team in the Sun Belt right now. Coach Steve Roberts' squad is firing on all cylinders and getting it done in every phase of the game. The road to New Orleans runs right through Jonesboro at least for the moment.

Next: Saturday vs. Middle Tennessee. ASU comes off a disappointing home loss against Southern Miss to open up Sun Belt Conference play against arguably the second hottest team in the league. This is definitely the game of the week in the Sun Belt.

[SIZE=+2]2][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Florida Atlantic (1-2, 0-0 SBC)
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The skinny: The first game of FAU's three game road trip wasn't a blowout like some thought it would be, but a 17-0 loss at Michigan State showed that Rusty Smith and the rest of the Owls can't sneak up on anyone. Things aren't looking very rosy in Boca Raton right now. FAU's defense has been pretty nonexistent so far. If the defense doesn't start matching the offense, FAU won't be in the Sun Belt race for long.

Next: Saturday at Minnesota. The Golden Gophers will have last year fresh on their minds when they were embarrassed by the Owls at home. This could be a dangerous game for the Owls, as they'll need to come out of their out of conference schedule healthy enough for what will be an exciting Sun Belt Conference run.

[SIZE=+2]3][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Middle Tennessee (1-2, 0-1 SBC)
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The skinny: The Blue Raiders came literally within a yard of pulling off a second consecutive major non-conference win and another marquee win for the conference. The hottest QB in the conference, Joe Craddock, and the force that is Malcolm Beyah are going to take their team into Jonesboro ready to even up their record, move up the Power Poll, and get themselves right back into the Sun Belt picture.

Next: Saturday at Arkansas State. This will be nothing less than a knock down, drag out fight between the Red Wolves and the Blue Raiders. MT must win this game to keep pace with the top of the Sun Belt because of its season opening loss to Troy.

[SIZE=+2]4][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Troy (2-0, 1-0 SBC)
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The skinny: Larry Blakeney's boys beat up on Alcorn State like they stole something from them. At least they got back to playing football, which should make OL Micah Grimes happy, as he compared the opening game against Middle Tennessee to "just a scrimmage in Tennessee" in his blog on TroyTrojans.com. Nevertheless, Troy still belongs in the top tier of the Power Poll because it hasn't shown us that it doesn't belong there.

Next: Saturday at Ohio State. The Buckeyes just got embarrassed by the number one team in the nation. Some Troy fans think the Trojans could sneak out with a win. I think Troy will be lucky if it sneaks out at all.

[SIZE=+2]5][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Louisiana-Lafayette (0-2, 0-0 SBC)
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The skinny: Give all the credit in the world to quarterback Michael Desormeaux and the Ragin Cajuns because I certainly didn't think they could play Illinois within three points. It's been a rough early season but this could be a sign that ULL is taking an upswing and could compete more in the Sun Belt race than I originally thought.

Next: Saturday vs. Kent State. The Golden Flashes aren't going to be as impressed with the Cajun performance as I am. Still, this could be a good opportunity for Rickey Bustle's team to pick up a win for the conference over a MAC opponent.

[SIZE=+2]6][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Louisiana-Monroe (1-2, 0-0 SBC)
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The skinny: The Warhawks are a tough team to figure out. One week they're shut out by an SEC opponent, the next they lose by one point to another SEC opponent. Then they win a game over FCS opponent Alabama A&M in less than convincing fashion. Quarterback Kinsmon Lancaster will need to get his team playing more consistently if they don't want to lose any ground to the top of the conference.

Next: Saturday at Tulane. The Green Wave gave 14th ranked East Carolina all it wanted before falling late. ULM could still sneak out with this one, but only if it figures out how to establish a consistent identity.

[SIZE=+2]7][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]North Texas (0-3, 0-0 SBC)
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The skinny: The Mean Green put three points on the board against defending National Champion LSU, while giving up 41. I realize that it was against a top ten team, but I expected Giovanni Vizza and the vaunted Todd Dodge offense to at least score one touchdown. North Texas is a bad team but still has enough weapons to cause some shakeups in the Sun Belt race.

Next: Bye Week. At least the Mean Green has a week to try and work on some new game plans or something before taking on Rice next week. However, if Rice continues to be as hot as it is, that one could get ugly too.

[SIZE=+2]8][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Florida International (0-2, 0-0 SBC)
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The skinny: The Golden Panthers had the week off, which means that they couldn't lose to anyone, so that's progress.

Next: Saturday vs. South Florida. FIU opens its much anticipated on campus stadium, but the Bulls are coming off a big upset over Kansas. I wouldn't expect anything but a beating.
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More on Idaho vs Utah State

GAME WEEK: Aggies Face Vandals In WAC Opener
September 17th, 2008 @ 3:18pm
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IDAHO at UTAH STATE
Saturday, Sept. 20, 2 p.m. (MT)
Romney Stadium (25,513) - Logan, Utah
QUICKLY -- Utah State (0-3, 0-0 WAC) will play the middle game of its three-game homestand when the Aggies commence Western Athletic Conference action by hosting Idaho (1-2, 0-0 WAC) on Saturday, Sept. 20... Kickoff is slated for 2 p.m. at Romney Stadium (25,513)... The battle between the Aggies and the Vandals will be televised by Altitude (Comcast Ch. 61 in Caches Valley).
VICTORY CIGAR -- Utah State will be honoring legendary basketball coach Red Auerbach's birthday on Saturday with the second-longest winning streak in the conference, as the Aggies have a two-game conference game winning streak in tact after beating Idaho and New Mexico State, respectively, in USU's final two games last season... Hawai'i has the longest WAC game winning streak, currently at 15 in a row.
CONFERENCE OPENERS -- Utah State has started conference play with a victory four out of the last seven years, losing three in a row after winning the previous four conference openers... This is the third season in a row that USU is beginning WAC action at home, going 0-2 in the previous two, but the Aggies are 3-2 in their last five home conference openers... Saturday marks the third time in the last four years that Utah State and Idaho will be opening WAC play against each other... Overall, this is the fourth time in last five seasons that the Aggies and Vandals open league play against one another, dating back to 2004 when both were in the Sun Belt Conference... Here's a closer look at USU's last five overall conference openers and last five conference openers: Overall Conference Openers 2003 - W 28-10 vs. UL-Monroe
2004 - W 14-7 vs. Idaho
2005 - L 7-13 at Idaho
2006 - L 21-41 vs. Idaho
2007 - L 20-23 vs. San Jose State
 
Tulane hasn't been greater than a 6 point fav since back in 2004.

Currently they are favored by 6/6.5 vs ULM and the line continues to rise. Find that interesting considering they are coming off a close loss vs an ECU team that was in a classic sandwich spot as they had just upset highly ranked WVU and they had in state rival NCSU on the horizon. Not really surprising that Tulane was able to hang tough considering the spot (and no, I didn't play them of course haha).

Nice post bro.

I think Tulane is sexy.

They outyarded Bama. I know Bama was flat, but 317-172 !!

They held ECU to 316 yards of O. ECU had 369 on VT, and 386 on WVU.

ULM gave up 406 to a struggling Auburn O, and 506 to Arky whio is still learning a new system. Plus according to Phil Steele they are 21-4 SU vs. current SBC teams. Special teams are a concern, but they could easily be 1-1 and DD chalk.
 
Final Play....

IDAHO +5.5 110 at the greek (line is 5 at most places but still 5.5 at the greek).

I think Idaho wins SU, but not much of a ML dog player, so will be happy taking the gift of 5.5
 
GL this week CB, with you on Penn State and also played 1h and LSU and also played under there.
 
Good Luck CB. I think we have all the same sides except 1 which technically we could both not lose (Temple +29) ...Did you see Monroe just get whacked ???

Down to 4.5 and 5 ...paid the juice yesterday and have some at +7...(I'll pay juice for a key number as long as its not a feel bet ) ...might even add more ...

:cheers:Appreciate the discussion last night as well
 
what are your thoughts about middle tenny?


I figured the line would be about 4 to 4.5 so no real value there IMO, as ASU is solid at home and MTSU has played a little over their heads the last few weeks in my opinion, so I expect them to come back down to earth this weekend but wouldn't be shocked if they won SU. The only Sunbelt play I thought was solid was the Troy bet I locked in earlier this week. All the other games just didn't seem off vs where I projected the lines should be. Best of luck this week!
 
Good Luck CB. I think we have all the same sides except 1 which technically we could both not lose (Temple +29) ...Did you see Monroe just get whacked ???

Down to 4.5 and 5 ...paid the juice yesterday and have some at +7...(I'll pay juice for a key number as long as its not a feel bet ) ...might even add more ...

:cheers:Appreciate the discussion last night as well


Yeah, I hesitated too long on Monroe, so it is a no play for me now. Will be rootin on the Warhawks for ya though as I was real close to making them a play, just thought Troy was the more solid Sunbelt play of the two.
 
Another soild week from a profit standpoint, as I finished up 5-3 overall, with another winner in the Sunbelt, to bring my record on those sides up to 6-1.

Penn State = Winner
LSU = Winner
UNC = Loser
Utah = Winner
Tulsa = Winner
SJSU = Loser
Idaho = Loser
Troy (Sunbelt Special) = Winner

Year to date 22-16 (58%)

Home Favs 7-5
Road Favs 9-6
Home Dogs 0-0
Road Dogs 6-3
Totals 0-2

Sunbelt Sides 6-1 (6 straight since losing KU in week 1)
 
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