Canadian Hockey Team Appreciation Thread

Should be a great gold game. Canada was the better team today. Value on Sweeden Sunday and feel like they have played better in the tournament.

Finland probably a good play tomorrow too
 
This kind of shit talking is ridiculous. It would be like us talking shit in basketball (if we don't win its an embarrassment) or if American football was an Olympic event (our high school kids would win a gold).

The olympics are the best when you're the underdog. Argentina hoops in 04. Miracle on ice etc....
 
Detox said:
This kind of shit talking is ridiculous. It would be like us talking shit in basketball (if we don't win its an embarrassment) or if American football was an Olympic event (our high school kids would win a gold).

The olympics are the best when you're the underdog. Argentina hoops in 04. Miracle on ice etc....
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Disagree. No good reason why our Minnesotans, Michiganians, Ohioans, New Yorkers, etc. shouldn't be able to win half the time against Canada. I guarantee youth hockey is as thriving in Cleveland and Boston as it is in Toronto. I think Canada's international hockey prowess is pretty remarkable.
 
It's their national sport. The majority of our elite athletes can't skate and don't care that they can't skate. Our youth hockey might be thriving but it's definitely not thriving with our elite athletes involved. Ding gong we have our 3rd tier athletes involved in hockey. It only takes a handful to make a national team. Their elite athletes are in skates at 2, ours don't care about hockey.

I played youth hockey and some in high school. I played with kids that went to BC, BU, Northeastern on full boats ... they weren't even close to the best athletes in the school. If we were playing pick up games in the gym (some form of baseball, football, bball), they were an after thought in the selection process. To be the best in a sport as competitive around the world as hockey is, you need your ELITE athletes involved. We don't.
 
Detox said:
This kind of shit talking is ridiculous. It would be like us talking shit in basketball (if we don't win its an embarrassment) or if American football was an Olympic event (our high school kids would win a gold).

The olympics are the best when you're the underdog. Argentina hoops in 04. Miracle on ice etc....
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American football....the name pretty much sums it up...no one is playing football but the US (outside of some football in Canada). Of course the US would win in a competition of American football. Hockey IS played in many other countries other than Canada, and at a very high level. Sure, it's their national sport, and they invented the game, but the US has been playing hockey pretty much since the inception of hockey,
 
Cleveland youth hockey is every bit as big as any other HS winter sport, even basketball. I think it's the biggest. It's huge here. Bet it's bigger in Minnesota.

Canadian hockey dominance, on the remarkability scale, isn't even close to say the USA beating anyone in hoops. Apples and oranges.
 
Detox said:
It's their national sport. The majority of our elite athletes can't skate and don't care that they can't skate. Our youth hockey might be thriving but it's definitely not thriving with our elite athletes involved. Ding gong we have our 3rd tier athletes involved in hockey. It only takes a handful to make a national team. Their elite athletes are in skates at 2, ours don't care about hockey.

I played youth hockey and some in high school. I played with kids that went to BC, BU, Northeastern on full boats ... they weren't even close to the best athletes in the school. If we were playing pick up games in the gym (some form of baseball, football, bball), they were an after thought in the selection process. To be the best in a sport as competitive around the world as hockey is, you need your ELITE athletes involved. We don't.
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do you think there is a sorting system when youth kids pick their sports?

more kids in the US than anywhere in the world play minor hockey
 
tipyerbartender said:
Cleveland youth hockey is every bit as big as any other HS winter sport, even basketball. I think it's the biggest. It's huge here. Bet it's bigger in Minnesota.

Canadian hockey dominance, on the remarkability scale, isn't even close to say the USA beating anyone in hoops. Apples and oranges.
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Agreed, and it's certainly not even worth bringing up American football in the discussion. That's comparing apples to elephants.
 
these sports all come down to a coaching set up

its why a country of 10m people (Sweden) can produce as many elite hockey players as almost any other

or with other global sports look at Spain at 45m and they probably have 50 of the 100 best current soccer players right now

Hockey in the US took a big jump in California when Gretzky went to LA (the amount of Cali kids being drafted has really started to pick up the last 3-4 years) and the coaching set up is being improved as well
 
I'm shocked with how big youth hockey is in AZ, guess it's the next generation of all the immigrants from the North
 
the second thing is down to numbers after coaching, if you made a "B" team if every team in the world

the US "B" team would be easy 2nd favorite so to speak, and the gap between it and 3rd would be massive

even 4 years from now, the weakness of the US (Defense) could be a strength

Suter is a stud, Fowler looks on is way, and Seth Jones was the best D man draft prospect since Doughty
 
I'm positive it played a big part in why Bettman was so determined to keep the yotes here

Bunch of Canucks have bought property here as well over the last several years while values were depressed
 
I discounted the snowbird factor way back when, but that's probably why hockey works in some of these sunny markets.
 
guaranteeed said:
these sports all come down to a coaching set up

its why a country of 10m people (Sweden) can produce as many elite hockey players as almost any other

or with other global sports look at Spain at 45m and they probably have 50 of the 100 best current soccer players right now

Hockey in the US took a big jump in California when Gretzky went to LA (the amount of Cali kids being drafted has really started to pick up the last 3-4 years) and the coaching set up is being improved as well
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That coaching thing is probably the key. We still may be a generation away from catching up to Canada at the really young levels. We need some babies sleeping with pucks.
 
When I logged into espn app the day canada beat usa, the top story was about tony stewart and his broken leg. Hockey is a great sport and arguably my favorite to watch live. Truly is a shame that there is near complete apathy for it the States
 
I think you're just southwest, VK, it's almost a different country. For instance, Cleveland's not into rodeo. I couldn't find a seat at a bar yesterday at noon.
 
Game plan yesterday stunk, but the most agonizing thing was that the Canadians controlled the game, but we were one fluke from tying it up the entire time.
 
Has any hockey coach dabbled in occasional 6-man attacks, no goalie, as a surprise? Middle of the game? Or is that just plain desperate always?
 
[h=1]National Sports of Canada Act[/h]
S.C. 1994, c. 16Assented to 1994-05-12​
An Act to recognize hockey and lacrosse as the national sports of Canada
Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:

[h=1]SHORT TITLE[/h][h=6]Marginal note:Short title[/h]1. This Act may be cited as the National Sports of Canada Act.
[h=1]NATIONAL SPORTS OF CANADA[/h][h=6]Marginal note:Hockey and lacrosse to be national sports[/h]2. The game commonly known as ice hockey is hereby recognized and declared to be the national winter sport of Canada and the game commonly known as lacrosse is hereby recognized and declared to be the national summer sport of Canada.
 
Lareux said:
American football....the name pretty much sums it up...no one is playing football but the US (outside of some football in Canada). Of course the US would win in a competition of American football. Hockey IS played in many other countries other than Canada, and at a very high level. Sure, it's their national sport, and they invented the game, but the US has been playing hockey pretty much since the inception of hockey,
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don't forget a Canadian invented basketball too ;)
 
Toronto_Mike said:
lacrosse another game started in Canada :)
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Lacrosse, today a relatively popular team sport in North America, may have developed as early as AD 1100 among indigenous peoples on the continent.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] By the seventeenth century, it was well-established. It was documented by Jesuit missionary priests in the territory of present-day Canada. The game has undergone many modifications since that time.

It was documented in the 17th century...they were playing in the US and Canada (North America) 500+ years earlier. We'll take dual credit...you can have box lacrosse though...that was invented by a Canadian. :p

:shake:
 
Lareux said:
Lacrosse, today a relatively popular team sport in North America, may have developed as early as AD 1100 among indigenous peoples on the continent.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] By the seventeenth century, it was well-established. It was documented by Jesuit missionary priests in the territory of present-day Canada. The game has undergone many modifications since that time.

It was documented in the 17th century...they were playing in the US and Canada (North America) 500+ years earlier. We'll take dual credit...you can have box lacrosse though...that was invented by a Canadian. :p

:shake:
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haha fair enough.
 
what surprises me is how come the nerds from Princeton and John Hopkins have like one of the best lacrosse programs in the country?
 
If lacrosse were an Olympic sport since the beginning of time, Canada would have zero gold medals.
 
I always assumed the Indians (native Americans) invented lacrosse, which would lend itself to Lareux's dual credit. I do scoff at the Canuks tying lacrosse to American football to stake a linear claim. That's just silly.
 
Lareux said:
Lacrosse, today a relatively popular team sport in North America, may have developed as early as AD 1100 among indigenous peoples on the continent.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] By the seventeenth century, it was well-established. It was documented by Jesuit missionary priests in the territory of present-day Canada. The game has undergone many modifications since that time.

It was documented in the 17th century...they were playing in the US and Canada (North America) 500+ years earlier. We'll take dual credit...you can have box lacrosse though...that was invented by a Canadian. :p

:shake:
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Box Lacrosse is the best lacrosse.
 
Indoor lacrosse is played at rec centers by fat guys who can no longer move. It's like 40-and-over or 6-feet-and-under basketball leagues. Which, thank God, exist.
 
Then most great Canadian hockey players didn't actually play lacrosse. Pussies.
 
clowncar said:
When I logged into espn app the day canada beat usa, the top story was about tony stewart and his broken leg. Hockey is a great sport and arguably my favorite to watch live. Truly is a shame that there is near complete apathy for it the States
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outside of Boston, Michigan, Minnesota and surprisingly LA (Yanks can vouch for this one)...
 
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