Bob Kraft Loves Hookers...
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Retburj13
SpongeBob Squarecapper
lol...i catch serious hate for being a Brady/pats fan, diehard Boston sports boy and I get it, we are Titletown after all :rubbingin:
but not so much that i cant also laugh at these clowns when they royally screw up
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Johnnyonthespot
CTG Regular
John Childs has a lot more money than Kraft, but hes a bankster, he stole it.
I'm surprised these other guys pay for it, lol
Martin Brophy dont give a fuck
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
But with all of the gold diggers out there and the current climate with any and everyone being accused of sexual assault (many of them not being true), it actually makes more sense to pay for it. This way you don’t have to worry about being the next #metoo target.
cogenman
Raider Nation for Life
This reminds me of in the 90's here down the street in Mountain View, Jerry Rice got busted too in a massage parlor LOL.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/PAGE-ONE-Police-Close-Spa-Find-Jerry-Rice-3012430.php
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/PAGE-ONE-Police-Close-Spa-Find-Jerry-Rice-3012430.php
Johnnyonthespot
CTG Regular
He ain't married, give him that.
Way to live
detroit187
Pretty much a regular
His young girlfriend now is just a high priced hooker anyway. Guess ge felt like saving a few bucks.
detroit187
Pretty much a regular
spongerat
Pretty much a regular
lol...i catch serious hate for being a Brady/pats fan, diehard Boston sports boy and I get it, we are Titletown after all :rubbingin:
but not so much that i cant also laugh at these clowns when they royally screw up
As a pats fan this is still pretty funny. And not a really that big a deal it's a misdemeanor. There isn't a billionaire alive that doesn't have at least one sex worker on the payroll.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Also just a guess but I'm thinking those who have already been charged with solicitation either didn't take part in the trafficking or there isn't enough evidence against them to connect it, have a feeling this will be long and drawn out as it comes out. Homeland Security, FBI, etc? We already know there will be some big fish whether they're actually famous or not.
Even if they can't connect Kraft to human trafficking, the sheer ignorance to it is astounding especially for someone who seems to thrive on being in the spotlight
Even if they can't connect Kraft to human trafficking, the sheer ignorance to it is astounding especially for someone who seems to thrive on being in the spotlight
Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
Robert Kraft! He didn't do this the PATRIOT WAY-- This is not the Patriot Way-- This is the Cincinnati Bengals way------
Like Kraft you don't have a list of $5000 a night ladies on hand? Send one to a private hotel? Instead he goes and visits a run down place that guys like JIMBO JENKINS are regulars?
Florida he should have been able to call a super high priced one, and taken care of his needs that way- Why is he visiting such a low end establishment?
He didn't DO IT THE PATRIOT WAY!
Like Kraft you don't have a list of $5000 a night ladies on hand? Send one to a private hotel? Instead he goes and visits a run down place that guys like JIMBO JENKINS are regulars?
Florida he should have been able to call a super high priced one, and taken care of his needs that way- Why is he visiting such a low end establishment?
He didn't DO IT THE PATRIOT WAY!
Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
Yes Kraft should be smarter?
Why didn't he just hire someone and pay him like 250k a year to be in charge of arranging all his ladies needs? The guy would arrange all these encounters- do background checks, be secutity- take care of payment etc--
Just pay someone $250k to be your director of partying and late night shenanigans--
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
Easier to get caught that way
Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
Kraft although smart wasn't smart enough here--
Moral of the story is-- If you are going to go to one of these establishments make sure the girls are north americans and not asians-- Then there is no chance of them being involved in trafficking--- Stay away from the asian facilities which are prone to smuggling ppl.
Moral of the story is-- If you are going to go to one of these establishments make sure the girls are north americans and not asians-- Then there is no chance of them being involved in trafficking--- Stay away from the asian facilities which are prone to smuggling ppl.
Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
Kraft is one shady dude-- No wonder they always win
takeit
THE Wife
Good call Sammy. White girls are never trafficked
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Are you suggesting he needs to re-watch Taken?
Johnnyonthespot
CTG Regular
Nantucket baby
Teapot9
Not from 63rd
Web.com Tour player (former)
I believe he also caddies for Jessica.
That could make for some awkward rounds.
takeit
THE Wife
Yea - I looked him up. No one worth discussing. lol
Did you get any juicy names from your buddy?
Teapot9
Not from 63rd
He would only tell me that two of the names on the list that was posted here are indeed members at Seminole and that 1 of the guys you’d expect and the other you wouldn’t have.
The high end golf community is smaller than most people think. I’d be willing to wager that this summer I hear at least one story from someone who knows somebody that got in trouble. Especially if the sheriff is saying that there’s tons more arrests coming.
I don’t mean to laugh at other people’s misfortunes but rich guy divorce stories are usually pretty entertaining.
takeit
THE Wife
I saw the texts you posted but thought maybe he would have coughed up some juice. I'm sure more and more names will come out soon. I guess 10 spas have been shut down. Not sure why they are naming all the john's as they usually don't, maybe to discourage people in the future?
Looking forward to hearing all the stories you hear.
Looking forward to hearing all the stories you hear.
Teapot9
Not from 63rd
I’m just thankful the guy that gives him Masters passes wasn’t part of it..... yet.
Retburj13
SpongeBob Squarecapper
11:47 AM PT -- According to court documents, Kraft paid for a threesome on Jan. 19 -- with two women taking turns "manipulating his genitals."
Once Kraft finished, the women cleaned him up and he gave them each a $100 bill.
11:17 AM PT -- Officials have described the case against Kraft in graphic detail ... saying his first incident occurred on Jan 19. The second incident occurred on Jan. 20, the day the Patriots were playing the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game.
As for incident #2 -- officials describe it in the following way:
"[employee] escorted Kraft to a room identified as JPPD Cam 2. There, the two hugged each other and Kraft took off all his clothing, laid face up on the massage table and [employee] hugged him again. At approximately 1102hrs. (Employee) began manipulating Kraft’s penis and testicles and then put her head down by his penis. This went on several minutes.”
"After a few minutes, [employee] wiped Kraft in the area of his genitals with a white towel, helped him get dressed and hugged him again. Kraft gave [employee] one $100 bill plus at least one other unidentifiable bill."
Officials say Kraft was only at the Asian massage parlor for a total of 14 minutes on January 20 -- and exited to a waiting 2015 blue Bentley.
Cops say Kraft was wearing a dark long-sleeved shirt, blue baseball cap and blue shorts.
By the way, Kraft then flew to Kansas City to watch the Patriots defeat the Chiefs 37 to 31 in an overtime thriller.
Once Kraft finished, the women cleaned him up and he gave them each a $100 bill.
11:17 AM PT -- Officials have described the case against Kraft in graphic detail ... saying his first incident occurred on Jan 19. The second incident occurred on Jan. 20, the day the Patriots were playing the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game.
As for incident #2 -- officials describe it in the following way:
"[employee] escorted Kraft to a room identified as JPPD Cam 2. There, the two hugged each other and Kraft took off all his clothing, laid face up on the massage table and [employee] hugged him again. At approximately 1102hrs. (Employee) began manipulating Kraft’s penis and testicles and then put her head down by his penis. This went on several minutes.”
"After a few minutes, [employee] wiped Kraft in the area of his genitals with a white towel, helped him get dressed and hugged him again. Kraft gave [employee] one $100 bill plus at least one other unidentifiable bill."
Officials say Kraft was only at the Asian massage parlor for a total of 14 minutes on January 20 -- and exited to a waiting 2015 blue Bentley.
Cops say Kraft was wearing a dark long-sleeved shirt, blue baseball cap and blue shorts.
By the way, Kraft then flew to Kansas City to watch the Patriots defeat the Chiefs 37 to 31 in an overtime thriller.
Doesn't anybody find it odd that the police were allowed to video tape these intimate encounters? Even people who might have been going to this spa innocently for a cheap, real massage were captured on film and the police watched it, essentially violating their rights? If you're a civilian and place a camera in a womans bathroom you are arrested and charged, yet the police are allowed to do it and it's fine?
Then it was OK that the police let these supposed "slaves" continue to perform acts on hundreds of men, building a case for months, but then not really "save" them as by the time they performed the raid lots of the girls had been moved elsewhere? What did they really care about here?
Then it was OK that the police let these supposed "slaves" continue to perform acts on hundreds of men, building a case for months, but then not really "save" them as by the time they performed the raid lots of the girls had been moved elsewhere? What did they really care about here?
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Might as well just start up a league, it's trendy
spanishshark
Youngest guy on the forum
Do you realize how painful it would be to jerk off with 5 superbowl rings on your hand?
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
LOLz plead not guilty of course, there are likely technicalities
But his dumb ass dragging this out w/o a plea makes it 20x worse. He'll always be guilty to those that matter. If he knew anyone who knew there was trafficking involved, I hope this treacherous wreck goes to the hole for longer than life
But his dumb ass dragging this out w/o a plea makes it 20x worse. He'll always be guilty to those that matter. If he knew anyone who knew there was trafficking involved, I hope this treacherous wreck goes to the hole for longer than life
guaranteeed
Pretty much a regular
Occams razor says there is no way he was involved in trafficking
Even if you think for a second he was somehow involved
Theres no way that is his spot for happy endings, he woukdnt go within 100 miles of the place
Even if you think for a second he was somehow involved
Theres no way that is his spot for happy endings, he woukdnt go within 100 miles of the place
https://nypost.com/2019/02/28/how-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-could-get-off-in-prostitution-case/
The prostitution case against Patriots owner Robert Kraft linked to a Florida sex-trafficking ring could be a long shot for prosecutors — partly because the women he was caught on video with are the 45-year-old spa manager and a 58-year-old licensed masseuse, according to legal experts.
Kraft is charged with two misdemeanor counts of soliciting prostitution after twice visiting Jupiter “rub and tug” massage joint Orchids of Asia Day Spa. Police say the business has ties to an international human-trafficking and prostitution ring, and some of the women at the Asian spa and five other affiliated Florida properties are sex slaves from China.
But it appears Kraft was caught on camera getting services from two women who are not victims of human trafficking: the 45-year-old manager of the spa, Lei Wang, and 58-year-old spa employee Shen Mingbi, also believed to be an operator of the business — both licensed masseuses and Florida residents.
Kraft allegedly visited Orchids of Asia first on Jan. 19, a day after police — who had been investigating the joint for at least six months — had set up surveillance cameras inside the business, located 17 miles from the 77-year-old billionaire NFL owner’s Palm Beach apartment.
According to the affidavit, Kraft paid cash at the front desk and then went to another room, where he took off his clothes. He was accompanied by Wang and Mingbi, who allegedly massaged him lying face-down before turning him over and performing a sex act by hand.
Wang, identified by police as the manager of the massage parlor nicknamed “Lulu,” was arrested and faces charges of maintaining a house of ill fame and deriving profits from prostitution. Mingbi, an employee of the spa, has not been arrested or charged and is believed to be cooperating with authorities. Kraft was seen tipping them $100 each before leaving.
Kraft left the spa in a white Bentley owned by a friend who had driven him there and had waited outside. A Jupiter police officer then pulled the Bentley over on a traffic stop and asked Kraft — the front-seat passenger — for identification.
The billionaire handed over his Massachusetts driver’s license. Legal experts suggest this traffic stop could be illegal because it appears to have been done on the pretext of a traffic violation, but — as the affidavit states — was in fact carried out to identify Kraft, who wasn’t driving the car.
Kraft’s second visit was on the following day, Jan. 20, the morning of the AFC Championship Game, and he was allegedly seen on video with Lulu, who massaged him face-down before turning him over and appearing to put her face near his genitals, the affidavit states. He gave her a $100 bill and two other unidentified bills before leaving.
Despite the video evidence, which does not have audio, legal experts say the case against Kraft is “flawed.” Through his spokesman, the NFL team owner has denied having solicited prostitutes.
Eric Snyder, a former prosecutor in the Manhattan DA’s Office and the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York and now a high-profile trial lawyer, believes there are glaring issues in the case.
Snyder — who is not involved in the Florida sex-trafficking case and is not representing Kraft — said, “A number of things jump out for me after reading the affidavit. When the police allege that vulnerable women are effectively being held as sex slaves, I would ask why the police didn’t move faster to get these women out of danger?
“Looking at the case against Kraft, there are a lot of big holes. First of all, the women he was with appear to have been operators of the massage parlor. One was arrested and the other one appears to be a cooperating witness, which is why she is named in the affidavits but wasn’t arrested. Prosecutors and police do not leave victims’ name unredacted in the reports they release.
“There’s also no proof in the affidavit that he solicited anything from the women. It is possible that this could have been a legal and consensual act between adults and there does not seem to be evidence to prove otherwise. So the facts supporting a misdemeanor charge of solicitation really don’t jump out at you.
“Second, the video was probably not legally obtained, the police seemed to ignore the necessity requirement for such an intrusive measure like planting a camera in the premises.” (The law stipulates police should only seek warrants for surveillance cameras if no other evidence is available to support their case, so Kraft’s lawyers could argue the video footage is not legal and an invasion of privacy.)
“And third, I doubt the traffic stop was legal either. So the evidence will likely be suppressed [by Kraft’s legal team] if there is ever a trial.”
Florida law enforcement officers say they are pursuing similar solicitation charges against more than 100 other men who allegedly paid women — some who may have been trafficked and kept in “sexual servitude” — at the day spas. It is not believed that any of the men arrested so far, including Kraft, knew that some of the women at the spas were victims of sex trafficking.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-paid-for-sex-hours-before-afc-championship-court-papers/
Many of the 26 customers first named by police as having solicited prostitution and recorded on video surveillance were identified during routine traffic stops after leaving the Asian spa, the affidavit states. A spokesperson for Jupiter police could not be reached.
The authorities believe Orchids of Asia and four other Florida spas were involved in human trafficking by recruiting women for sexual exploitation. They say many of the women came from China under the guise of legitimate jobs in the spas, were forced to work in the sex trade and confined to the venues, eating and sleeping in the back of the businesses.
“These cases aren’t about any one defendant or any group of defendants,” State Attorney Dave Aronberg said. “The larger picture, which we must all confront, is the cold reality that many prostitutes in cases like this are victims, often lured into this country with promises of a better life, only to be forced to live and work in a sweatshop or a brothel, subject to force, fraud or coercion.”
He noted during a press conference while talking about “modern-day slavery” that of the men charged with soliciting prostitution, “There’s no allegation that any defendant [charged or accused of soliciting prostitution] engaged in human trafficking.”
However, after nine months of surveillance by a group of law enforcement agencies, Florida investigators look to have a very strong case against those operating the sex-trafficking ring and the money trail leading back to China. Martin County Sheriff William Snyder has said their surveillance caught armed men driving luxury vehicles moving sex slaves between massage parlors across Florida as part of a “transnational human-trafficking ring.”
Sheriff Snyder told The Daily Beast that the Florida massage parlors were part of a $20 million China-based sex-trafficking operation, and they saw several men moving women between massage parlors. A female sex slave told his investigators that “the man who was moving her around had a gun, and indicated that he would use it,” Snyder continued, adding that the men threatened the women not to leave the spas. “We did get a sense that some of these men may have had these women as investments,” Snyder said.
Sheriff Snyder stated that the trafficking ring has connections to New York and China, and investigators have traced as much as $20 million to China. “Florida is just the end of the supply chain,” he said.
A spokesperson for the Patriots owner has denied “that Mr. Kraft engaged in any illegal activity.” The spokesperson and an attorney for Kraft declined to comment further to The Post.
A representative for Aronberg declined to discuss Kraft’s case with The Post, except to say the investigation into the sex-trafficking and prostitution ring was ongoing.
The prostitution case against Patriots owner Robert Kraft linked to a Florida sex-trafficking ring could be a long shot for prosecutors — partly because the women he was caught on video with are the 45-year-old spa manager and a 58-year-old licensed masseuse, according to legal experts.
Kraft is charged with two misdemeanor counts of soliciting prostitution after twice visiting Jupiter “rub and tug” massage joint Orchids of Asia Day Spa. Police say the business has ties to an international human-trafficking and prostitution ring, and some of the women at the Asian spa and five other affiliated Florida properties are sex slaves from China.
But it appears Kraft was caught on camera getting services from two women who are not victims of human trafficking: the 45-year-old manager of the spa, Lei Wang, and 58-year-old spa employee Shen Mingbi, also believed to be an operator of the business — both licensed masseuses and Florida residents.
Kraft allegedly visited Orchids of Asia first on Jan. 19, a day after police — who had been investigating the joint for at least six months — had set up surveillance cameras inside the business, located 17 miles from the 77-year-old billionaire NFL owner’s Palm Beach apartment.
According to the affidavit, Kraft paid cash at the front desk and then went to another room, where he took off his clothes. He was accompanied by Wang and Mingbi, who allegedly massaged him lying face-down before turning him over and performing a sex act by hand.
Wang, identified by police as the manager of the massage parlor nicknamed “Lulu,” was arrested and faces charges of maintaining a house of ill fame and deriving profits from prostitution. Mingbi, an employee of the spa, has not been arrested or charged and is believed to be cooperating with authorities. Kraft was seen tipping them $100 each before leaving.
Kraft left the spa in a white Bentley owned by a friend who had driven him there and had waited outside. A Jupiter police officer then pulled the Bentley over on a traffic stop and asked Kraft — the front-seat passenger — for identification.
The billionaire handed over his Massachusetts driver’s license. Legal experts suggest this traffic stop could be illegal because it appears to have been done on the pretext of a traffic violation, but — as the affidavit states — was in fact carried out to identify Kraft, who wasn’t driving the car.
Kraft’s second visit was on the following day, Jan. 20, the morning of the AFC Championship Game, and he was allegedly seen on video with Lulu, who massaged him face-down before turning him over and appearing to put her face near his genitals, the affidavit states. He gave her a $100 bill and two other unidentified bills before leaving.
Despite the video evidence, which does not have audio, legal experts say the case against Kraft is “flawed.” Through his spokesman, the NFL team owner has denied having solicited prostitutes.
Eric Snyder, a former prosecutor in the Manhattan DA’s Office and the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York and now a high-profile trial lawyer, believes there are glaring issues in the case.
Snyder — who is not involved in the Florida sex-trafficking case and is not representing Kraft — said, “A number of things jump out for me after reading the affidavit. When the police allege that vulnerable women are effectively being held as sex slaves, I would ask why the police didn’t move faster to get these women out of danger?
“Looking at the case against Kraft, there are a lot of big holes. First of all, the women he was with appear to have been operators of the massage parlor. One was arrested and the other one appears to be a cooperating witness, which is why she is named in the affidavits but wasn’t arrested. Prosecutors and police do not leave victims’ name unredacted in the reports they release.
“There’s also no proof in the affidavit that he solicited anything from the women. It is possible that this could have been a legal and consensual act between adults and there does not seem to be evidence to prove otherwise. So the facts supporting a misdemeanor charge of solicitation really don’t jump out at you.
“Second, the video was probably not legally obtained, the police seemed to ignore the necessity requirement for such an intrusive measure like planting a camera in the premises.” (The law stipulates police should only seek warrants for surveillance cameras if no other evidence is available to support their case, so Kraft’s lawyers could argue the video footage is not legal and an invasion of privacy.)
“And third, I doubt the traffic stop was legal either. So the evidence will likely be suppressed [by Kraft’s legal team] if there is ever a trial.”
Florida law enforcement officers say they are pursuing similar solicitation charges against more than 100 other men who allegedly paid women — some who may have been trafficked and kept in “sexual servitude” — at the day spas. It is not believed that any of the men arrested so far, including Kraft, knew that some of the women at the spas were victims of sex trafficking.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-paid-for-sex-hours-before-afc-championship-court-papers/
Many of the 26 customers first named by police as having solicited prostitution and recorded on video surveillance were identified during routine traffic stops after leaving the Asian spa, the affidavit states. A spokesperson for Jupiter police could not be reached.
The authorities believe Orchids of Asia and four other Florida spas were involved in human trafficking by recruiting women for sexual exploitation. They say many of the women came from China under the guise of legitimate jobs in the spas, were forced to work in the sex trade and confined to the venues, eating and sleeping in the back of the businesses.
“These cases aren’t about any one defendant or any group of defendants,” State Attorney Dave Aronberg said. “The larger picture, which we must all confront, is the cold reality that many prostitutes in cases like this are victims, often lured into this country with promises of a better life, only to be forced to live and work in a sweatshop or a brothel, subject to force, fraud or coercion.”
He noted during a press conference while talking about “modern-day slavery” that of the men charged with soliciting prostitution, “There’s no allegation that any defendant [charged or accused of soliciting prostitution] engaged in human trafficking.”
However, after nine months of surveillance by a group of law enforcement agencies, Florida investigators look to have a very strong case against those operating the sex-trafficking ring and the money trail leading back to China. Martin County Sheriff William Snyder has said their surveillance caught armed men driving luxury vehicles moving sex slaves between massage parlors across Florida as part of a “transnational human-trafficking ring.”
Sheriff Snyder told The Daily Beast that the Florida massage parlors were part of a $20 million China-based sex-trafficking operation, and they saw several men moving women between massage parlors. A female sex slave told his investigators that “the man who was moving her around had a gun, and indicated that he would use it,” Snyder continued, adding that the men threatened the women not to leave the spas. “We did get a sense that some of these men may have had these women as investments,” Snyder said.
Sheriff Snyder stated that the trafficking ring has connections to New York and China, and investigators have traced as much as $20 million to China. “Florida is just the end of the supply chain,” he said.
A spokesperson for the Patriots owner has denied “that Mr. Kraft engaged in any illegal activity.” The spokesperson and an attorney for Kraft declined to comment further to The Post.
A representative for Aronberg declined to discuss Kraft’s case with The Post, except to say the investigation into the sex-trafficking and prostitution ring was ongoing.
Zeke
Big Dick and Average Size Boat
Listening to Howard Stern this week. He wanted to write a movie Pretty Woman 2, Orchids of Asia. Starring the likes of Bob Kraft who brings his little friend home to live with him. I was laughing my ass of listening to his premise...
"This is for you, it's a Birkin bag worth $25,000."
"Me thank you, this so much better to sleep in than my closet."
"No, it's to put your stuff in, you get to sleep on a bed in a room."
"This is for you, it's a Birkin bag worth $25,000."
"Me thank you, this so much better to sleep in than my closet."
"No, it's to put your stuff in, you get to sleep on a bed in a room."
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