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Supposed to be official by tonight. He's not waiting until Wednesday. Once again, Uncle Terry gets what he wants.
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Hearing it's 6 years $40+ million on the contract. That's a fuck ton of money.
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money talks...i guess, i cant comprehend that kind of coin but tonite they said it was 6mil /sea where Det offered 3.25 i think
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Yeah, and that 3.25 million would have made him the highest paid coach in the NHL.
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Another fun fact. His brother Tim was in same dorm as me our first year at Fredonia, so we ended up hanging out all 3 years we were there...he played for the Soo in Jr's, and always talked about his bro and Ferris St, always wore this Ferris St. pullover. We called him Blash, and a few times he pissed the bed when he got drunk (okay, more than a few)...the mattress would be in the hallway in the am, and you knew what went down. Great dude, only talked to him a few times since college though...we had a blast.
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Bobby Mac and Pierre say hes still undecided
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kind of surprised, all the stories have been he doesn't want to lose for long but this Buffalo team for me is at least 2-3 years away from even sneaking in to the playffs
that roster is gutted, Eichel/Reinhart a good twosome to build around, but no NHL ready depth, no D, no goalie
that roster is gutted, Eichel/Reinhart a good twosome to build around, but no NHL ready depth, no D, no goalie
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No goalie, but can get one in FA if you have to, but a "big time" goalie isn't necessary to win a Cup anyway.
Evander Kane, Moulson, Girgensons, Ennis, and it looks like Grigerenko has finally realized what he needs to do to be an NHL player. Plenty of young talent on defense as well...Ristolainen, Zadorov, Pysyk, maybe Ruhwedel, with a few vets right now in Bagosian, Weber, Meszaros, and Gorges...but again, Uncle Terry will spend money, if necessary, on defensemen.
You're right, they're a couple years out from being in the mix (not simply making the playoffs), but he's getting double what he would have received (and that was to be the highest paid coach in the NHL) from Detroit, who hasn't made it past the first round since 2009 to begin with.
gsro
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I'd disagree with your goalie comment; look back on all the champions in the recent years, let's say you go back to 2003 and the winning/runner up goalies were one of the tops in the league...for me goalies go a LONG way else the leafs wouldn't be that bad if that were the case....
Forwards look okay, need to add a few pieces I'd say.. Ennis is a great catch for you guys and i've always been a Kane fan when he's not being a primadonna..
Dmen: not sure i'm a huge fan of your young talent but they may be serviceable....Mesz is getting up there in age..
For me, only logic is the notion of more money..his wife didn't want to be in a place like Edmonton cause it was so small, guess Buffalo is big enough for her?
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Corey Crawford won a Cup. Thought it was a pretty universal notion now in the NHL that you don't need a stud goalie...teams that win usually get a hot goalie, but not sure they have to be elite. It helps, just saying it's not necessary.
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2004 Khabibulin
2006 Cam Ward
2007 JS Giguere
2009 Fleury
2010 Niemi
2011 Tim Thomas
2013 Crawford
And Quick is in there twice. Not many of those names scream elite goalie. You disagree?
2006 Cam Ward
2007 JS Giguere
2009 Fleury
2010 Niemi
2011 Tim Thomas
2013 Crawford
And Quick is in there twice. Not many of those names scream elite goalie. You disagree?
gsro
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they were all tops in the league and considered elite during that time.
gsro
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I understand your point, just think if you can have "elite" anywhere it's in net, you can get forward/defensemen chipping in more....but i guess we need to define elite
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[TD]ARI[/TD]
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[TD]$575,000[/TD]
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From that list of forwards the only one I really like is Kane, the others played 1st line minutes last year and put up low 2nd line point totals, and by the time Eichel/Reinhart are ready to contend most are past their prime
Girgensons is young and actually could develop in to a good middle 6 C
They do have a ton of picks as well, it's just thats never guaranteed anything
look at Edmonton the last decade, Florida is just starting to put it together after a decade really of top 5-10 picks
others like the Hurricanes, Avs, Islanders, Lightning, Isles etc. were stuck for a long time
that's only reason why it surprises me, because I do think they are at least 3 seasons away (2018/19) at the earliest of making the playoffs, and even then it's not a certainty
if I were him I would have taken a year off
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Also I hope for Sabres fans and Babcock that he's getting some personnel control
Dont trust Tim Murray after he said that Nolan was fired because the team wasnt good enough this year, when Murray built the tankiest team that ever tanked
Dont trust Tim Murray after he said that Nolan was fired because the team wasnt good enough this year, when Murray built the tankiest team that ever tanked
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Giguere and Thomas definitely
Fleury/Niemi/Crawford had either the best center combo in Sid/Geno we have had since the late 80's, or were playing behind the closest thing we have to a dynasty
Quick's not elite either
I don't think you need an elite goalie, just saying they don't even have a decent one
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Toronto and Buffalo in bidding war for Babcock. No decision yet. Hearing Red Wings final offer was 5 years at $4 million per.
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going to Toronto would be the same situation as Buffalo except worse
all you have to build around is Nylander + Marner or Strome + what trading Kessel and Phaneuf gets you
good young D though
all you have to build around is Nylander + Marner or Strome + what trading Kessel and Phaneuf gets you
good young D though
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The rumors on local radio is that the contract is at least $40 mil and could be up to $50 mil. For either 6 or 7 years
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He didn't say that's why Nolan was fired. It was well known they didn't get along at all, and Nolan was gone after the season.
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"I don't think it was a bad fit. I don't think it was a great fit," Murray said. "Maybe it's just chemistry. Maybe it's just two different personalities."
Murray also felt the move to fire Nolan, a little more than a year after the coach signed a three-year contract, was needed to improve a team in the midst of a rebuilding process.
"I know this isn't a popular thing," Murray said. "To me, it's about getting better. I feel this was an opportunity for us to improve and keep improving. And that's certainly no disrespect to Ted."
"We said we hoped it would work, and we would try to make it work," Murray said. "There were no big fights or arguments or anything like that. There might have been a somewhat lack of communication, and that's as much on me as him."
Murray also felt the move to fire Nolan, a little more than a year after the coach signed a three-year contract, was needed to improve a team in the midst of a rebuilding process.
"I know this isn't a popular thing," Murray said. "To me, it's about getting better. I feel this was an opportunity for us to improve and keep improving. And that's certainly no disrespect to Ted."
"We said we hoped it would work, and we would try to make it work," Murray said. "There were no big fights or arguments or anything like that. There might have been a somewhat lack of communication, and that's as much on me as him."
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Buffalo is now OUT on Babcock. Lol, wow.
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Sounds like he's headed to Toronto
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From the press conference whwre he fired nolan
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Toronto/St. Louis/San Jose.
Him in St. Louis would be good.
Him in St. Louis would be good.
gsro
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I trust Dreger more than I do Ward; so according to Ward it's those 3 but Dreger reporting it was always down to Toronto/Buffalo
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Yeah, he definitely made mention of that. It wasn't a secret around here to read between the lines from all of his other comments, and the way he and Nolan battled twice in the media. He wasn't gonna be here even if the Sabres won 10 more games.
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They just said on WGR that they've been told it's Toronto.
gsro
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hitchcock/stl are discussing contract right now apparently, and I don't see Babcock taking his good friends job over at stl.
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Murray also barely kept a straight face when saying what you posted, as he clearly knew they were a 30th place team...he constructed them for that sole purpose.
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crazy
gsro
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yes and no....
Teed mentioned it, but they are a ways away even the magician that Babcock is will be hard pressed to start and the media loves to feast on the coaches something that didn' thappen alot in Detroit until maybe this year
gsro
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yep read that, but i hate what the city will do with this news...they will call it a second coming and set their expecations wayyy tooo high and then when he fails to meet cause of the rebuild, they will shit on a VERY good coach.
GatorsLeafsBills
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What you mean me going to get my Tuxedo pressed & New chairs for the Yonge street parade for next year is too high?
gsro
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LOL .
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As great a Franchise as Detroit is, Toronto is King by far. You know coaches are all about ego. If Babcock goes and wins a Cup there, every street in the province will be called babcock street, every kid will be named mike, statues everywhere. There will never be a bigger party than downtown Toronto when the Leafs win a cup. The fucking Province will shut the fuck down for a couple days.
gsro
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I do need an extra vacay day, so the win helps.
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