Almost halfway home, 8 weeks..what have we learned?

Trubisky isnt over because there is no alternative, hes on rookie deal, they dont have a 1st to get a qb to challenge him, and no real cap space to dedicate. I think they do need to get another qb in general but Mitch wont go anywhere.

Heard rumors that Raiders want to move on from Carr to get a qb in this draft. No idea how or why itd work but would love to see him for the bears.
 
There is absolutely no way the Jags go back to Foles when he is ready to go. No way. Minshew has won the job. Now you build around him like the Seahawks did around Russ when he took the job from Matt Flynn.
 
49ers have the Thursday nighter this week and then host the Seahawks on MNF in week 10. Lucrative spot. Just wanted to throw the heads up out there 2 weeks in advance so you don't overlook! PEACE
 
hate to say it but the Bills are officially paper tigers. Defense looked good all season playing bad offenses and gets shredded by the run vs the Eagles. Offense isn't making plays, ended the game with 11 straight incompletions. Seems they don't want to use Singletary enough even though he clearly is electric.
 
The only move i can see worthwhile for bears is if mariota costs a 5-6th rd pick. Just to get him in the building to evaluate if giving him an extension is viable.

From there it is taking a shot in rd 2-4 at whatever qb drops and hope for the best bc they are missing out on the top 5-6 in draft.
 
There is absolutely no way the Jags go back to Foles when he is ready to go. No way. Minshew has won the job. Now you build around him like the Seahawks did around Russ when he took the job from Matt Flynn.

it will be impossible for them to do it financially and Minshew has only beaten the bottom of the league while Foles won a Super Bowl, but sure
 
The only move i can see worthwhile for bears is if mariota costs a 5-6th rd pick. Just to get him in the building to evaluate if giving him an extension is viable.

From there it is taking a shot in rd 2-4 at whatever qb drops and hope for the best bc they are missing out on the top 5-6 in draft.

i hope for your sake that QB room is not Trubisky and Mariota if they plan on throwing forward passes
 
i hope for your sake that QB room is not Trubisky and Mariota if they plan on throwing forward passes
Not certain what a realistic option is. It is all about taking a gamble at this point. Maybe a Rosen or Haskins once MIA and WAS go QB.
 
it will be impossible for them to do it financially and Minshew has only beaten the bottom of the league while Foles won a Super Bowl, but sure

Weird to talk about it like that -- a player vs a team. Why not look at it more specifically: Denver ranks 5th in pass def DVOA, Panthers rank 3rd in the category and Minshew achieved a 97.2 passer rating vs the former and 101.9 against the latter. That sounds fairly proven to me.
 
Minshew single-handedly cost them the Panthers game by fumbling three times, y'all are so blinded by recency bias i think i'm done with this
 
Did Matt Flynn really ever have the starting gig though? I had him on my bench all season before he landed in Seattle. Was excited to see my "investment" pay off, but I'm pretty sure Russ won the job in preseason, from what I remember.
 
Minshew single-handedly cost them the Panthers game by fumbling three times, y'all are so blinded by recency bias i think i'm done with this

He also kept Jax in the game and its hard not to be blindsided by a pass rush thats waaay too strong for Jax‘s garbage o-line....
No, don‘t finish. Show us blind sheep the light.
 
Call me a hater. Call me whatever. The Browns ran the ball down the Pats throats all game. They outgained the Patriots. It’s the first competent offense they played since Week 1. Pats offense generated 10 points on their own yet againThe Niners to me are far more of the known quantity right now.

The AFC is still NE and KC. Pack are considered a good squad. Chiefs had 3 OL down, 2 DL down, starting DT go down in game, starting CB go down in game and the greatest QB on the planet did not play and they were in position to win that game. If a team would like to welcome them at full strength in January, good luck with that.

saints? That’s an effing squad.

If cousins can manage games, the Minn offense is scary.
 
Call me a hater. Call me whatever. The Browns ran the ball down the Pats throats all game. They outgained the Patriots. It’s the first competent offense they played since Week 1. Pats offense generated 10 points on their own yet againThe Niners to me are far more of the known quantity right now.

The AFC is still NE and KC. Pack are considered a good squad. Chiefs had 3 OL down, 2 DL down, starting DT go down in game, starting CB go down in game and the greatest QB on the planet did not play and they were in position to win that game. If a team would like to welcome them at full strength in January, good luck with that.

saints? That’s an effing squad.

If cousins can manage games, the Minn offense is scary.
I like your tone sir!
 
Did Matt Flynn really ever have the starting gig though? I had him on my bench all season before he landed in Seattle. Was excited to see my "investment" pay off, but I'm pretty sure Russ won the job in preseason, from what I remember.
Didn’t they pay him a bunch?
 
Defense looked good all season playing bad offenses and gets shredded by the run vs the Eagles.
The weather that game. Windy as hell, swirling from every direction. It's not like they ran the ball because they wanted to, more like they had to, right. So, that makes it even worse right? The fact that the defense already knew Wentz wouldn't be able to throw downfield.. Philly was forced to be one-dimensional due to the weather and still succeeded.
 
Call me a hater. Call me whatever. The Browns ran the ball down the Pats throats all game. They outgained the Patriots. It’s the first competent offense they played since Week 1. Pats offense generated 10 points on their own yet againThe Niners to me are far more of the known quantity right now.

The AFC is still NE and KC. Pack are considered a good squad. Chiefs had 3 OL down, 2 DL down, starting DT go down in game, starting CB go down in game and the greatest QB on the planet did not play and they were in position to win that game. If a team would like to welcome them at full strength in January, good luck with that.

saints? That’s an effing squad.

If cousins can manage games, the Minn offense is scary.

didn't dawn on me when i first read it, but i think KC has real problems even if Mahomes gets back to 100%

The defense was terrible last year, but it seems even worse this year and the NE schedule is so easy they will have to win in Foxboro and that doesn't look like it will happen. If NE closes -3 @BAL then we're probably seeing KC getting close to a TD in the playoffs and maybe it's worth an ATS play, but i don't see a SU win from this far away.

NE isn't perfect, Brady is aging and the personnel moves (Nugent, Gordon) suggest there are some problem areas that deserve attention, but the KC offense doesn't seem to be what it was in 2019 and there's going to be two years of tape on Mahomes. Maybe you can run on NE as evidenced by Chubb last week, but he seems to do that every other week. KC doesn't seem to be the team to run the ball down NE's throat if Shady remains their best option. Wonder how long he'll keep the job because he's already been benched twice for fumbling, but Reid doesn't seem to want to go to Damien and I really don't get it.

The OL is depleted. Hill is already banged up, maybe he'll get fully healthy later in the season but this isn't the sport where you see that happen too often. As much as I'd like to see the dynasty end, I just don't see KC doing it so somebody else will have to do the dirty work
 
didn't dawn on me when i first read it, but i think KC has real problems even if Mahomes gets back to 100%

The defense was terrible last year, but it seems even worse this year and the NE schedule is so easy they will have to win in Foxboro and that doesn't look like it will happen. If NE closes -3 @BAL then we're probably seeing KC getting close to a TD in the playoffs and maybe it's worth an ATS play, but i don't see a SU win from this far away.

NE isn't perfect, Brady is aging and the personnel moves (Nugent, Gordon) suggest there are some problem areas that deserve attention, but the KC offense doesn't seem to be what it was in 2019 and there's going to be two years of tape on Mahomes. Maybe you can run on NE as evidenced by Chubb last week, but he seems to do that every other week. KC doesn't seem to be the team to run the ball down NE's throat if Shady remains their best option. Wonder how long he'll keep the job because he's already been benched twice for fumbling, but Reid doesn't seem to want to go to Damien and I really don't get it.

The OL is depleted. Hill is already banged up, maybe he'll get fully healthy later in the season but this isn't the sport where you see that happen too often. As much as I'd like to see the dynasty end, I just don't see KC doing it so somebody else will have to do the dirty work

Sadly kc seems to be turning into what packers were the last 5-6 years. Just way too dependent on their all world qb carrying them. It will get them to playoffs years he healthy but they not winning shit constructed this way. Ultimate team sport!!!
 
So, VK made me login here because he wanted to send me porn links in a PM like it was 2003.

OK, part of that sentence isn't true, but I'll leave it up to you to decide which part. What he did tell me is that BAR is strutting around this place with impunity (which certainly cannot stand), Fondy misses me terribly (which, I mean, is understandable), and you fuckers are giving Steed a hard time as she transitions.

Look you cold-hearted bastards, love is love and Steed is Steed. You let her be who she was born to be and you support her or they or you know what I'm saying. You love Steed today the same way you did yesterday. We love you, Steed, you majestic son of a bitch.

Let's see, how I can help. First, let me say, I am not back. Am I watching football again—engh, yes, sort of, somewhat. I mean, we all know the NFL officially ended when the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl. That's just a fact. So all this whatever we're seeing now is really just TV programming. Which is fine, if you're into that kind of thing.

Here's what I can tell you that I have seen.

Two huge things jump out to me this season so far.

1. More than I can remember, D-Line and O-Line run this game. If you cannot block, you are thunderfucked. I'll get to specific teams on that in a second.

2. This is really the first year of what I believe might be the new order of the NFL, by which I mean tanking, by multiple teams, officially.

This is already a major strategy in MLB. It's arguably 'the' way to build a winner if you're not the Yankees who can just write checks. Thankfully your Chicago White Sox are just about through with this process and should be ready for their first championship since '05 very, very soon. But I digress.

In the NFL, it really looks like, for the first time, you're going to get entire teams making a business decision right about this time of the season. And while I think that's going to look slightly different than say the Astros or White Sox losing 100 games or even 'Trust the Process' in the NBA, I do think you're going to get teams that treat the second half of the season almost purely as a sorting out process to see who comes back next year. And because of that you see almost pre-season like effort/coaching/scores from some of these teams.

Thing is, in the NFL, because games are so few (comparatively) and the talent level so equal (roughly), once teams decide it's fine if they go 3-13 vs. trying for 7-9, and especially if those teams are poorly run (think: Washington, NYJ, Cincy, etc.) I think you have to look at laying the points against them even on what will likely be inflated lines. For example:

Washington vs. Buffalo
I wasn't going to start with these two teams, but that's where this went so ... Washington is a dumpster fire, and if you're a player, and you just watched this team completely mistreat arguably their best player—and you know what a shitshow the front office is even before that, how motivated are you? Yes, yes, you're playing for a job in the NFL, but really, aren't you mostly playing a game of 'Just let me stay healthy the rest of this year?' Obviously that doesn't apply to Haskins, but you see what I mean.

Also on this game, back to point number one above: CAN. YOU. BLOCK. ANYONE.

I haven't bet a ton this year, but I promise you the vast majority of any 'capping I'm doing starts with point number one above. And I don't believe Washington's OL without Williams is blocking any halfway decent defense. I also think Buffalo (whether they're a paper tiger or not) got embarrassed at home last week and must be absolutely licking their chops this week to take out their frustration on anybody. And Washington sucks. I get that the line is high, but to me, betting on the Skins here is betting on pure hope. Hope that Haskins somehow has time, somehow can figure out an NFL defense with a real-time learning curve, and hoping Buffalo's defense doesn't come to play. No thank you.

Speaking of offensive lines ...

Oakland vs. Detroit
Both of Oakland's centers are hurt. As of right now, their plan is to start Ritchie Incognito at center on Sunday. The same Ritchie Incognito who hasn't played center since 2010. Apparently their other guys are game time decisions, but even if they go you have to imagine that they're limited. Which is not good because from what I gather, this is one of those systems where the center makes a lot of calls in terms of blocking schemes. Now, Incognito is a veteran, but are you really willing to risk it here? Especially when Oakland is so inconsistent even when they're fully healthy.

I haven't played anything here yet, but I lean Detroit ML and the over. First, there's an old hockey betting strategy which is to bet against teams coming home after long road trips. It seems counter-intuitive, but the reality is, you come home after a bunch of time on the road and you have to readjust at home. The wife, the kids, bills, everything you put out of your mind on the road comes flooding back. And Oakland has spent the last what, four weeks, on and off airplanes? They've actually played pretty well despite it, but something tells me this week they bounce.

Also, it's Detroit's nature to throw the ball all around the field. Assume a hurt center or a third string center for Oakland and you can probably figure on at least a turnover, maybe two. Or at a bare minimum, drives stalling for Oakland and Detroit getting the ball back quick. If Detroit can get points there, that means Oakland has to try to score with them. And that becomes a shootout real quick.

OK, now let's talk about some actual football teams. OK, one actual football team and the Cleveland Browns.

The Philadelphia Eagles
The Eagles are ... not good. HEY, HEY, I WASN'T FINISHED YET. The Eagles are not good, BUT they also haven't been healthy since like week one. I heard Brandon Graham this week being asked about how the D played so well vs. Buffalo and his response was, 'I don't want to make excuses, but we've been down a ton of guys.' And he's right. Good news for the Birds? They're starting to get healthy again on both sides of the ball. DJax will be back this week, then there's a bye. Then after NE, they get Seattle at home (and Seattle can't stop anybody defensively), then the Redskins, Cowboys (at home with revenge), and the Giants twice.

Again, the Birds aren't great, but their schedule is about to get Charmin soft. Don't be surprised to see them go 4-1 or 5-1 to finish the season.

The Cleveland Browns
OK, this team sucks. BUT they're talented. BUT that doesn't really matter because their coach is in way over his head. And that sucks, because he seems like he might be a good guy. But he's a mess. Again, it comes back to blocking, and this team couldn't block me. And trust me, my back won't even let me rush the passer. My back is like, 'Look, man we're dropping into coverage and that's just how it is. Or maybe we should just get some Gatorade, yeah, let's do that. That lemon-lime is the original for a reason. That's bottom bitch Gatorade right there.'

Sorry, back to the Browns this week. No way this team should be laying points on the road—HOWEVER, the Broncos might be starting an actual horse under center this week for all I know. What I do know is, if the weather is good, I might look at this over. Because Cleveland is going to be desperate. To me that means turnovers from Baker. And Flacco, while not playing, specifically called out Denver's coaching for being offensively impotent last week (and he was right). And maybe Fangio doesn't care about that, but I doubt it. All coaches have an ego. My guess is, even with a new QB, he opens it up a little bit this week. This week feels like 24-20. Maybe 27-20-something. No clue who wins, though, maybe Cleveland. Probably Cleveland if Denver's shitty luck still holds.

Speaking of Denver, I've told Joe Public Sr. Esq. all year that I think his Donks are going to get better defensively as the year rolls on. I still think that. They may continue to lose, and if the Football Gods are feeling friendly, they may give a Joe the over this week, but Denver unders have been pretty easy money so far this year and I'd expect more of the same in the second half of the season. Right after their bye next week they go to Minny then Buffalo. They aren't outscoring those teams, they have to beat 'em with defense.

What else ...

It's probably been said, but New England's defense, while really, really good, has really benefited from bad competition in the first half of the season. That changes going forward. I still think they'll be good. But I'd expect to see them start giving up points, getting to totals.

I don't know what happens with Baltimore this week, but I think they're playoff team good. Part of me thinks because NE will force LJ to beat them through the air this week the over is worth a look. Part of me thinks they throw but still don't score. But it doesn't matter. Balty's division sucks, they have wins and covers coming going forward.

Remember the playoff game Kansas City played vs. Indy like ten years ago where the two teams never punted and combined for like 976 total points? I don't think this version of KC's defense is that bad, but it's close. And I do think this version of KC's offense is that good. I think this team contends for the AFC Championship. Their problem the last few weeks is their whole OL is in shambles (SEE POINT NUMBER ONE UNTIL YOU REMEMBER IT). When they fix that, they'll be back.

I also think Indy's legit. Not 'We gonna beat New England in the playoffs!' legit, but like, 'We beat bad teams like it's our job' legit.

Alternatively, it looks like the annual Houston slide into mediocrity is about to start thanks to Watt being injured (again) and their coaching being a total albatross.

I saw some talk about Minshew vs. Foles in this thread. As an Eagles fan let me just say, this isn't even a discussion. Big Dick Nick is only good on one team and only during one very specific part of the year. That is it. Period. And that team is not the Jaguars. And that time of the year is when the Jaguars will be watching TV.

Cam Newton is done in Carolina (which might not be a bad thing) and there's a possibility the Niners broke the Panthers' spirit last week. This team, electric as McCaffery can be, feels like an 8-8 football team.

On the flip side of that, the Niners really feel like that team which is going to go 14-2 and somehow lose a home playoff game.

Actually, I'll tell you who they'll lose it to, if they play. New Orleans. That team is fully legit.

Arizona? Overs later in the season. Stupid me, I had the over in their game vs. SF on Thursday in my head all day, but ended up forgetting to bet it like a total chump. The money was just sitting there, but apparently I just didn't want it. I did however have the Nats to win the WS and bet them again in Game 7. So, you know, I'm not a total fuckwit.

Seattle is like the NFC's KC, Wilson is unstoppable, but their defense is a turnstile.

I'm not sure I have a good read on the Vikings.

Meanwhile, the Packers feel like 9-7 or 10-6. But not a very good 10-6. Like a 'Get to a playoff game and lose 31-27' kind of 10-6. BTW, word is the Packers may control roughly 80% of the stadium in LA this weekend vs. the Chargers who are good on the road and garbage at home, so that's something to think about.

The Bears who were supposed to be good look downright bad. And I say this as someone who's bet on them (and lost). If the weather holds in Philly this weekend, and DJax really is back, Philly might put it in their ear. Something to think about here. Huge revenge game for the Bears—BUT it's also an 'I'll show you' game for Wentz. Remember, he didn't beat the Bears last year, Foles did. Also, if Chicago loses here, it's basically their season given the records in the rest of the conference.

The Jets look like they are ready to fully implode.

The Bengals already have imploded.

The Dolphins look like Fitzmagic is going to refuse to let them implode and that they want to play for Flores even if their organization is pretty much a trainwreck.

Tampa took my money last week. But I still think this team has some covers left in them. And that you have to handicap at least one Winston turnover a game. At minimum.

Speaking of Tampa losing, Tenny took my money, but fuck them, they are not a good football team. They just aren't. And I agree with those who say Mariota is done.

Ooh, Atlanta. Coming out of their break next week I think you get Atlanta's Super Bowl. At NO. And once they lose that, I think this team fully quits. Like maybe Quinn gets fired and left on the tarmac in New Orleans. They can't stop anybody. Trading Sanu was a white flag, this team wants to start over. But I think they wait until after they lose 45-38 in NO to do it.

That's it. Maybe there will be more later. But before I go, maybe I'll let you know that you should probably look to fade Crystal Palace in the EPL for the next couple of weeks. They got a miracle draw last week vs. Arsenal which was huge because it leaves them 6th in the table. But they're still not a good home team and Leicester looks like they're actually good again. That suggests bad things for tomorrow.

Then they have to go to Chelsea (which feels like 1-3) and come home for Liverpool (which should probably be 0-2, 1-3, or 0-3). But then it turns. They get Bournemouth, Watford, Norwich, and Newcastle. Three of the four right at the bottom of the table. And one thing I love in the EPL is to bet teams coming off of a stretch where they played the top of the table and then play the bottom.

Playing better competition, even if they lose, makes them better. So while Palace may have a bad November, I think they might have a strong finish to the calendar. I'm just sayin.

Anyway, that's all from me for now.

TL;DR: The NFL, engh, yeah, I might bet it. And you goddamn degenerates are still the best. Guaran-Steed.
 
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That was exceptional, by the way. A skim-reader like myself rarely reads every word the first time... here I did.
 
WTF just happened, for real ? The CTG multiverse just got shook...

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Nice to see ya Joe.

GO BIRDS !
 
There is absolutely no way the Jags go back to Foles when he is ready to go. No way. Minshew has won the job. Now you build around him like the Seahawks did around Russ when he took the job from Matt Flynn.
it will be impossible for them to do it financially and Minshew has only beaten the bottom of the league while Foles won a Super Bowl, but sure

I screwed up the quoting but yeah. Can't believe those posts against GWarner
 
So, VK made me login here because he wanted to send me porn links in a PM like it was 2003.

OK, part of that sentence isn't true, but I'll leave it up to you to decide which part. What he did tell me is that BAR is strutting around this place with impunity (which certainly cannot stand), Fondy misses me terribly (which, I mean, is understandable), and you fuckers are giving Steed a hard time as she transitions.

Look you cold-hearted bastards, love is love and Steed is Steed. You let her be who she was born to be and you support her or they or you know what I'm saying. You love Steed today the same way you did yesterday. We love you, Steed, you majestic son of a bitch.

Let's see, how I can help. First, let me say, I am not back. Am I watching football again—engh, yes, sort of, somewhat. I mean, we all know the NFL officially ended when the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl. That's just a fact. So all this whatever we're seeing now is really just TV programming. Which is fine, if you're into that kind of thing.

Here's what I can tell you that I have seen.

Two huge things jump out to me this season so far.

1. More than I can remember, D-Line and O-Line run this game. If you cannot block, you are thunderfucked. I'll get to specific teams on that in a second.

2. This is really the first year of what I believe might be the new order of the NFL, by which I mean tanking, by multiple teams, officially.

This is already a major strategy in MLB. It's arguably 'the' way to build a winner if you're not the Yankees who can just write checks. Thankfully your Chicago White Sox are just about through with this process and should be ready for their first championship since '05 very, very soon. But I digress.

In the NFL, it really looks like, for the first time, you're going to get entire teams making a business decision right about this time of the season. And while I think that's going to look slightly different than say the Astros or White Sox losing 100 games or even 'Trust the Process' in the NBA, I do think you're going to get teams that treat the second half of the season almost purely as a sorting out process to see who comes back next year. And because of that you see almost pre-season like effort/coaching/scores from some of these teams.

Thing is, in the NFL, because games are so few (comparatively) and the talent level so equal (roughly), once teams decide it's fine if they go 3-13 vs. trying for 7-9, and especially if those teams are poorly run (think: Washington, NYJ, Cincy, etc.) I think you have to look at laying the points against them even on what will likely be inflated lines. For example:

Washington vs. Buffalo
I wasn't going to start with these two teams, but that's where this went so ... Washington is a dumpster fire, and if you're a player, and you just watched this team completely mistreat arguably their best player—and you know what a shitshow the front office is even before that, how motivated are you? Yes, yes, you're playing for a job in the NFL, but really, aren't you mostly playing a game of 'Just let me stay healthy the rest of this year?' Obviously that doesn't apply to Haskins, but you see what I mean.

Also on this game, back to point number one above: CAN. YOU. BLOCK. ANYONE.

I haven't bet a ton this year, but I promise you the vast majority of any 'capping I'm doing starts with point number one above. And I don't believe Washington's OL without Williams is blocking any halfway decent defense. I also think Buffalo (whether they're a paper tiger or not) got embarrassed at home last week and must be absolutely licking their chops this week to take out their frustration on anybody. And Washington sucks. I get that the line is high, but to me, betting on the Skins here is betting on pure hope. Hope that Haskins somehow has time, somehow can figure out an NFL defense with a real-time learning curve, and hoping Buffalo's defense doesn't come to play. No thank you.

Speaking of offensive lines ...

Oakland vs. Detroit
Both of Oakland's centers are hurt. As of right now, their plan is to start Ritchie Incognito at center on Sunday. The same Ritchie Incognito who hasn't played center since 2010. Apparently their other guys are game time decisions, but even if they go you have to imagine that they're limited. Which is not good because from what I gather, this is one of those systems where the center makes a lot of calls in terms of blocking schemes. Now, Incognito is a veteran, but are you really willing to risk it here? Especially when Oakland is so inconsistent even when they're fully healthy.

I haven't played anything here yet, but I lean Detroit ML and the over. First, there's an old hockey betting strategy which is to bet against teams coming home after long road trips. It seems counter-intuitive, but the reality is, you come home after a bunch of time on the road and you have to readjust at home. The wife, the kids, bills, everything you put out of your mind on the road comes flooding back. And Oakland has spent the last what, four weeks, on and off airplanes? They've actually played pretty well despite it, but something tells me this week they bounce.

Also, it's Detroit's nature to throw the ball all around the field. Assume a hurt center or a third string center for Oakland and you can probably figure on at least a turnover, maybe two. Or at a bare minimum, drives stalling for Oakland and Detroit getting the ball back quick. If Detroit can get points there, that means Oakland has to try to score with them. And that becomes a shootout real quick.

OK, now let's talk about some actual football teams. OK, one actual football team and the Cleveland Browns.

The Philadelphia Eagles
The Eagles are ... not good. HEY, HEY, I WASN'T FINISHED YET. The Eagles are not good, BUT they also haven't been healthy since like week one. I heard Brandon Graham this week being asked about how the D played so well vs. Buffalo and his response was, 'I don't want to make excuses, but we've been down a ton of guys.' And he's right. Good news for the Birds? They're starting to get healthy again on both sides of the ball. DJax will be back this week, then there's a bye. Then after NE, they get Seattle at home (and Seattle can't stop anybody defensively), then the Redskins, Cowboys (at home with revenge), and the Giants twice.

Again, the Birds aren't great, but their schedule is about to get Charmin soft. Don't be surprised to see them go 4-1 or 5-1 to finish the season.

The Cleveland Browns
OK, this team sucks. BUT they're talented. BUT that doesn't really matter because their coach is in way over his head. And that sucks, because he seems like he might be a good guy. But he's a mess. Again, it comes back to blocking, and this team couldn't block me. And trust me, my back won't even let me rush the passer. My back is like, 'Look, man we're dropping into coverage and that's just how it is. Or maybe we should just get some Gatorade, yeah, let's do that. That lemon-lime is the original for a reason. That's bottom bitch Gatorade right there.'

Sorry, back to the Browns this week. No way this team should be laying points on the road—HOWEVER, the Broncos might be starting an actual horse under center this week for all I know. What I do know is, if the weather is good, I might look at this over. Because Cleveland is going to be desperate. To me that means turnovers from Baker. And Flacco, while not playing, specifically called out Denver's coaching for being offensively impotent last week (and he was right). And maybe Fangio doesn't care about that, but I doubt it. All coaches have an ego. My guess is, even with a new QB, he opens it up a little bit this week. This week feels like 24-20. Maybe 27-20-something. No clue who wins, though, maybe Cleveland. Probably Cleveland if Denver's shitty luck still holds.

Speaking of Denver, I've told Joe Public Sr. Esq. all year that I think his Donks are going to get better defensively as the year rolls on. I still think that. They may continue to lose, and if the Football Gods are feeling friendly, they may give a Joe the over this week, but Denver unders have been pretty easy money so far this year and I'd expect more of the same in the second half of the season. Right after their bye next week they go to Minny then Buffalo. They aren't outscoring those teams, they have to beat 'em with defense.

What else ...

It's probably been said, but New England's defense, while really, really good, has really benefited from bad competition in the first half of the season. That changes going forward. I still think they'll be good. But I'd expect to see them start giving up points, getting to totals.

I don't know what happens with Baltimore this week, but I think they're playoff team good. Part of me thinks because NE will force LJ to beat them through the air this week the over is worth a look. Part of me thinks they throw but still don't score. But it doesn't matter. Balty's division sucks, they have wins and covers coming going forward.

Remember the playoff game Kansas City played vs. Indy like ten years ago where the two teams never punted and combined for like 976 total points? I don't think this version of KC's defense is that bad, but it's close. And I do think this version of KC's offense is that good. I think this team contends for the AFC Championship. Their problem the last few weeks is their whole OL is in shambles (SEE POINT NUMBER ONE UNTIL YOU REMEMBER IT). When they fix that, they'll be back.

I also think Indy's legit. Not 'We gonna beat New England in the playoffs!' legit, but like, 'We beat bad teams like it's our job' legit.

Alternatively, it looks like the annual Houston slide into mediocrity is about to start thanks to Watt being injured (again) and their coaching being a total albatross.

I saw some talk about Minshew vs. Foles in this thread. As an Eagles fan let me just say, this isn't even a discussion. Big Dick Nick is only good on one team and only during one very specific part of the year. That is it. Period. And that team is not the Jaguars. And that time of the year is when the Jaguars will be watching TV.

Cam Newton is done in Carolina (which might not be a bad thing) and there's a possibility the Niners broke the Panthers' spirit last week. This team, electric as McCaffery can be, feels like an 8-8 football team.

On the flip side of that, the Niners really feel like that team which is going to go 14-2 and somehow lose a home playoff game.

Actually, I'll tell you who they'll lose it to, if they play. New Orleans. That team is fully legit.

Arizona? Overs later in the season. Stupid me, I had the over in their game vs. SF on Thursday in my head all day, but ended up forgetting to bet it like a total chump. The money was just sitting there, but apparently I just didn't want it. I did however have the Nats to win the WS and bet them again in Game 7. So, you know, I'm not a total fuckwit.

Seattle is like the NFC's KC, Wilson is unstoppable, but their defense is a turnstile.

I'm not sure I have a good read on the Vikings.

Meanwhile, the Packers feel like 9-7 or 10-6. But not a very good 10-6. Like a 'Get to a playoff game and lose 31-27' kind of 10-6. BTW, word is the Packers may control roughly 80% of the stadium in LA this weekend vs. the Chargers who are good on the road and garbage at home, so that's something to think about.

The Bears who were supposed to be good look downright bad. And I say this as someone who's bet on them (and lost). If the weather holds in Philly this weekend, and DJax really is back, Philly might put it in their ear. Something to think about here. Huge revenge game for the Bears—BUT it's also an 'I'll show you' game for Wentz. Remember, he didn't beat the Bears last year, Foles did. Also, if Chicago loses here, it's basically their season given the records in the rest of the conference.

The Jets look like they are ready to fully implode.

The Bengals already have imploded.

The Dolphins look like Fitzmagic is going to refuse to let them implode and that they want to play for Flores even if their organization is pretty much a trainwreck.

Tampa took my money last week. But I still think this team has some covers left in them. And that you have to handicap at least one Winston turnover a game. At minimum.

Speaking of Tampa losing, Tenny took my money, but fuck them, they are not a good football team. They just aren't. And I agree with those who say Mariota is done.

Ooh, Atlanta. Coming out of their break next week I think you get Atlanta's Super Bowl. At NO. And once they lose that, I think this team fully quits. Like maybe Quinn gets fired and left on the tarmac in New Orleans. They can't stop anybody. Trading Sanu was a white flag, this team wants to start over. But I think they wait until after they lose 45-38 in NO to do it.

That's it. Maybe there will be more later. But before I go, maybe I'll let you know that you should probably look to fade Crystal Palace in the EPL for the next couple of weeks. They got a miracle draw last week vs. Arsenal which was huge because it leaves them 6th in the table. But they're still not a good home team and Leicester looks like they're actually good again. That suggests bad things for tomorrow.

Then they have to go to Chelsea (which feels like 1-3) and come home for Liverpool (which should probably be 0-2, 1-3, or 0-3). But then it turns. They get Bournemouth, Watford, Norwich, and Newcastle. Three of the four right at the bottom of the table. And one thing I love in the EPL is to bet teams coming off of a stretch where they played the top of the table and then play the bottom.

Playing better competition, even if they lose, makes them better. So while Palace may have a bad November, I think they might have a strong finish to the calendar. I'm just sayin.

Anyway, that's all from me for now.

TL;DR: The NFL, engh, yeah, I might bet it. And you goddamn degenerates are still the best. Guaran-Steed.
Agree with everything EXCEPT I believe KCs D this year is a bit better than it's D on the team you refer to. Otherwise, really feel you are spot on. Great write up. I want to see if i can get some college credit for reading that.
 
After 8 games , one team has not eclipsed 100points on offense. They scored 28% of their points vs a division leader.
It can be a scratch your head league.
 
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