Yeah this is the perfect sitch for guys who get drafted high and fail initially
I damn near want to be Sam's agent and start an online class on how to get knocked down but still succeed
#Chumbawumba
Crazy to say but a guy like Zach Wilson could still be good in the right system and a good team. He'll never lift a bad team though.Yeah this is the perfect sitch for guys who get drafted high and fail initially
I damn near want to be Sam's agent and start an online class on how to get knocked down but still succeed
#Chumbawumba
Darnold for Smith helped a bit tooAmazing that Seattle swapped out DK Metcalf for Cooper Kupp and the offense got better.
Yeah, I think with this staff DK would have made them even better.Darnold for Smith helped a bit too
Crazy to think of him as a #2. They could have just thrown jump balls all season and let Kenny get his occasionallyDK on this team would have had a monster year
DK on this team would have had a monster year
#SECHead case.
Seattle's just fine as is.
Eh you might not see the ball again.
And I have a hard time thinking the game comes down to a Rams having FG attempt for a win vs needing a touchdown
But the entire logic of going for it on 4th is trust in your defense to get you the ball back. With that being a given, kicking the FG there was the only move. You’re now down 1 and only need a FG to win.
You’ve already implied you’re trusting your defense, so what’s the difference between trusting them down 1 or down 4? The fact that you can win with a FG and don’t need a TD. EITHER way you need a stop from your defense, and in one of the scenarios you only need a FG. It was an all time horrible decision, regardless of the outcome. It just defies logic to not kick a FG in that spot.
Not to mention, it was 4th and 4, so running it was maybe out of the question…and they still ran a play to the EZ as opposed to trying to the the first down. If you’re not trying to get the first down, and only going TD there, all the more reason you’re an idiot and should be kicking the FG.
Also, side note…the 3rd and 8 “catch” is tough to understand how it’s a catch when he didn’t survive the ground and clearly didn’t have 2 steps and a football move so he needed to maintain possession through the ground contact. How that wasn’t even discussed on the broadcast is wild, especially given the BUF/DEN play with the INT by DEN.
But the entire logic of going for it on 4th is trust in your defense to get you the ball back. With that being a given, kicking the FG there was the only move. You’re now down 1 and only need a FG to win.
You’ve already implied you’re trusting your defense, so what’s the difference between trusting them down 1 or down 4? The fact that you can win with a FG and don’t need a TD. EITHER way you need a stop from your defense, and in one of the scenarios you only need a FG. It was an all time horrible decision, regardless of the outcome. It just defies logic to not kick a FG in that spot.
Not to mention, it was 4th and 4, so running it was maybe out of the question…and they still ran a play to the EZ as opposed to trying to the the first down. If you’re not trying to get the first down, and only going TD there, all the more reason you’re an idiot and should be kicking the FG.
Also, side note…the 3rd and 8 “catch” is tough to understand how it’s a catch when he didn’t survive the ground and clearly didn’t have 2 steps and a football move so he needed to maintain possession through the ground contact. How that wasn’t even discussed on the broadcast is wild, especially given the BUF/DEN play with the INT by DEN.
Head case.
Seattle's just fine as is.
They never got the ball back, well really. The argument is they didn’t go for 2 basically at the very end of the third. Going down 1 with a crappy defense and 4 minutes isn’t the same as being up 3.
I’m surprised they didn’t talk about that catch or possibly lack of a catch more. If McVay challenges and loses does he still stop the clock?
That’s another reason you kick the FG there…you chose not to go for 2 twice when able to cut the lead to 3. Why do that if the reason wasn’t to possibly kick 2 FGs to win the game?
Cut it to 3 at either spot and you’ve tied either tied the game on that 4th and 4 with a FG, or you’re still in the spot where kicking a FG cuts the lead to 2 (as you’re down 5 missing the 2 pt conversion), and it’s the right decision to kick the FG on the 4th and 4.
Just seemed the way they played it the entire game that it made no sense to not only not kick a FG in that spot, but to throw into the EZ as opposed to underneath to pick up the first down. Was an all time bad decision.
Just seemed super odd given the Bills/Broncos play and a couple of others last weekend (Adams vs Bears for one), that it wasn’t even mentioned at all. I don’t think it was a catch to be honest, he did not survive the ground, end of story.
Thanks for getting the thread going @Frank Costanza i‘ve been nuked by the literal ice storm of the century
What on Earth did he do to deserve this
First, the Tuck Rule was eliminated in 2013. In Stidham's case he tucked it but then made an attempt at a two-hand chest pass, negating the tuck. I thought it was deflected backwards by the lineman but on the replay it became clear that the lineman never touched the ball, he influenced Stidham's hand direction. Since Stidham was in control of the ball when it was released it was an attempted pass, not fumble. But since his hands pushed the ball backwards it was a backwards pass and therefore a live ball.So i‘m not trying to criticize the refs, i‘m genuinely asking here: what’s the difference between Stidham fumble and tuck rule?
Things suck, so that other things can be goodboy this sux
This is a basic philosophyThings suck, so that other things can be good
And +4.5 and +190Played exact scores:
NE 21-16 +19000
NE 21-17 +18000
NE 20-17 +7500