William Hill sportsbooks in Vegas have a CFB prop

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pstone

Pretty much a regular
on, "Will an SEC team win the national championship?"

I believe the limit is only a nickel, but still an interesting prop. The line, as of yesterday, was -110 both ways.

Any thoughts?

Good luck,
Paul
 
pstone said:
on, "Will an SEC team win the national championship?"

I believe the limit is only a nickel, but still an interesting prop. The line, as of yesterday, was -110 both ways.

Any thoughts?


Good luck,
Paul
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The answer is yes they will.
 
Jimmydafreak said:
Not UGA. They aren't winning anything. They're the third best team in the East Put it on Florida or South Carolina.
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Glad you're not drinking the UGA Kool-Aid. For some strange reason it seems they always drop a game they shouldn't and it costs them a National Title shot. Until they prove they can handle it ...
 
UGA schedule is why I would consider them. IMO they're better than the team last year that was a play away from getting the chance to dominate Notre Dame in the MNC game. It sets up the same this year. They get SoCar and LSU at home early in the season. They travel to Clemson in the opener. If they go 2-1 in the early games and beat the Gators in Jacksonville then they are likely the top 1 loss team heading into the SEC Championship game
 
Schrute said:
UGA schedule is why I would consider them. IMO they're better than the team last year that was a play away from getting the chance to dominate Notre Dame in the MNC game. It sets up the same this year. They get SoCar and LSU at home early in the season. They travel to Clemson in the opener. If they go 2-1 in the early games and beat the Gators in Jacksonville then they are likely the top 1 loss team heading into the SEC Championship game
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Georgia is NOT beating South Carolina or Florida. I honestly don't think they'll get past Clemson either.

Betting on Georgia to win anything this season is a bad bet IMHO.
 
Schrute said:
UGA schedule is why I would consider them. IMO they're better than the team last year that was a play away from getting the chance to dominate Notre Dame in the MNC game. It sets up the same this year. They get SoCar and LSU at home early in the season. They travel to Clemson in the opener. If they go 2-1 in the early games and beat the Gators in Jacksonville then they are likely the top 1 loss team heading into the SEC Championship game
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Here is the UGA Schedule.
Aug 31, at Clemson
Sep 7, vs South carolina
Sept 14, Open Date

Sep 21, v North Texas
Sep 28, v LSU
Oct 5, at Tennessee
Oct 12, v Missouri
Oct 19, at Vanderbilt
Oct 26, Open Date

Nov 2, v Florida (@ Jacksonville)

Nov 9, v Appalachian State
Nov 16, at Auburn
Nov 23, v Kentucky
Nov 30, at Georgia Tech
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Dec 7, SEC Championship Game

This is how I see their season unfolding as of today.

After the first couple games most likely Georgia will be 1-1.

In the second groupling, I see them losing to LSU and either Missouri and/or Vandebilt.
This puts them either 5-2 or 4-3.

They then play Florida at the World's Largest Cocktail Party - basically this is a home game for the Gators and by this point in the season the O and D chomps will be more than ready and UGA will not get 6 turn overs like last year plus they have revenge on thier mind from the last two meetings. The Gators will find a way to win this one. UGA should now be either 5-3 or 4-4.

Out of that last grouping they should win all four and for the sake of discussion, let's say they do. This leaves them potentially 9-3 or 8-4 and even if they're 9-3, they won't make the SEC Championship Game.

That being stated, this is why they play the game.
 
There is no way uga drops 4 games this year and goes 8-4, they will be favored in every game, unless tha d is asleep they have a winnable schedule, catching tha tough sec match ups at home
 
Schrute said:
Do you

Do you think 2013 UGA is worse than 2012 UGA?
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I don't think there is any question about it. The bigger question is are they better than South Carolina and Florida? I think the answer is no in both cases.

I think Georgia will beat LSU, but will likely lose to Clemson, South Carolina & Florida.

The SEC East will be decided by the November 16th game between Florida & South Carolina.
 
Son_of_A_Legend said:
Here is the UGA Schedule.
Aug 31, at Clemson
Sep 7, vs South carolina
Sept 14, Open Date

Sep 21, v North Texas
Sep 28, v LSU
Oct 5, at Tennessee
Oct 12, v Missouri
Oct 19, at Vanderbilt
Oct 26, Open Date

Nov 2, v Florida (@ Jacksonville)

Nov 9, v Appalachian State
Nov 16, at Auburn
Nov 23, v Kentucky
Nov 30, at Georgia Tech
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Dec 7, SEC Championship Game

This is how I see their season unfolding as of today.

After the first couple games most likely Georgia will be 1-1.

In the second groupling, I see them losing to LSU and either Missouri and/or Vandebilt.
This puts them either 5-2 or 4-3.

They then play Florida at the World's Largest Cocktail Party - basically this is a home game for the Gators and by this point in the season the O and D chomps will be more than ready and UGA will not get 6 turn overs like last year plus they have revenge on thier mind from the last two meetings. The Gators will find a way to win this one. UGA should now be either 5-3 or 4-4.

Out of that last grouping they should win all four and for the sake of discussion, let's say they do. This leaves them potentially 9-3 or 8-4 and even if they're 9-3, they won't make the SEC Championship Game.

That being stated, this is why they play the game.
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Georgia IS NOT losing to Vandy or Missouri. They beat these teams by a combined score of 89-23 last season. The only question for Georgia will be can they beat those two teams worse this season? The notion that Georgia will lose to either of those two teams is patently absurd.
 
Jimmydafreak said:
I don't think there is any question about it. The bigger question is are they better than South Carolina and Florida? I think the answer is no in both cases.

I think Georgia will beat LSU, but will likely lose to Clemson, South Carolina & Florida.

The SEC East will be decided by the November 16th game between Florida & South Carolina.
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I just have a hard time seeing UGA starting out 0-2 and I think that UGA will beat Florida again this year. That's the difference. I do agree with you that Clemson and South Carolina could very well both beat UGA but I don't think both do. I hope Clemson beats UGA obviously. I just don't see UGA as a bad investment at 25-1 but you could certainly hedge with just Bama and likely be in better shape. If Bama makes the SEC-CG they are probably winning the national title.

After some thought I'd be more inclined to bet no -110 and Bama to win BCS at +330
 
Son_of_A_Legend said:
Here is the UGA Schedule.
Aug 31, at Clemson
Sep 7, vs South carolina
Sept 14, Open Date

Sep 21, v North Texas
Sep 28, v LSU
Oct 5, at Tennessee
Oct 12, v Missouri
Oct 19, at Vanderbilt
Oct 26, Open Date

Nov 2, v Florida (@ Jacksonville)

Nov 9, v Appalachian State
Nov 16, at Auburn
Nov 23, v Kentucky
Nov 30, at Georgia Tech
--------------------------
Dec 7, SEC Championship Game

This is how I see their season unfolding as of today.

After the first couple games most likely Georgia will be 1-1.

In the second groupling, I see them losing to LSU and either Missouri and/or Vandebilt.
This puts them either 5-2 or 4-3.

They then play Florida at the World's Largest Cocktail Party - basically this is a home game for the Gators and by this point in the season the O and D chomps will be more than ready and UGA will not get 6 turn overs like last year plus they have revenge on thier mind from the last two meetings. The Gators will find a way to win this one. UGA should now be either 5-3 or 4-4.

Out of that last grouping they should win all four and for the sake of discussion, let's say they do. This leaves them potentially 9-3 or 8-4 and even if they're 9-3, they won't make the SEC Championship Game.

That being stated, this is why they play the game.
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tru said:
There is no way uga drops 4 games this year and goes 8-4, they will be favored in every game, unless tha d is asleep they have a winnable schedule, catching tha tough sec match ups at home
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Stranger things have and do happen. Time will tell and determine their fate.

Jimmydafreak said:
Georgia IS NOT losing to Vandy or Missouri. They beat these teams by a combined score of 89-23 last season. The only question for Georgia will be can they beat those two teams worse this season? The notion that Georgia will lose to either of those two teams is patently absurd.
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Last season is not this season. I repeat UGA will drop a game that they 'should' win and I see that happening against either Vanderbilt and/or Missouri. It's okay to disagree but this is why they'll play the game.
 
Son_of_A_Legend said:
Last season is not this season. I repeat UGA will drop a game that they 'should' win and I see that happening against either Vanderbilt and/or Missouri. It's okay to disagree but this is why they'll play the game.
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they will be favored in all games, maybe only one I don't see is @ Clemson. so every game this year they "should" win if they are favored to win them. I can see them droppin a game also since they do have back to back tough matchups to start tha season. if they woulda started week 1 wit savanna st or some other cup cake I could see a much easier chance to go flawless up to tha sec championship. if they get to week 3 and beat Clemson and south Carolina, I think its a very good chance they go 12-0 and play bama in tha sec championship
 
I think mizzou will be improved this year. Every thing kinda fell apart on them last year. Don't think they beat uga tho
 
It will be easier for Missouri to prepare for the SEC this year. Last year had to prepare for 9 new opponents.
 
Schrute said:
I just have a hard time seeing UGA starting out 0-2 and I think that UGA will beat Florida again this year. That's the difference. I do agree with you that Clemson and South Carolina could very well both beat UGA but I don't think both do. I hope Clemson beats UGA obviously. I just don't see UGA as a bad investment at 25-1 but you could certainly hedge with just Bama and likely be in better shape. If Bama makes the SEC-CG they are probably winning the national title.

After some thought I'd be more inclined to bet no -110 and Bama to win BCS at +330
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Florida will beat Georgia for the same reason South Carolina beats them every year - it's a coaching mismatch of epic proportions. Georgia has very little chance of beating Florida this season, or any season for the foreseeable future. Georgia fans better enjoy the extremely fortuitous win they got against the Gators last season, because I don't think they'll get another for a while. Now that Muschamp is comfortably ensconced at Florida, Florida's domination of the Cocktail Party will resume - starting this season.

The point that I'm making (and I'm obviously not doing a very good job of it) is that The SEC East will come down to Florida and South Carolina, and the odds of those teams winning is better than the odds of Georgia winning. Any future bets on Georgia will be effectively dead by week 2. So what the odds are for Georgia to win anything are inconsequential, because those bets are losers IMO. I would recommend picking a winner of the Florida @ South Carolina game, and putting your money on that team. At least your bet won't be relegated to the scrap heap by week 2.

Better yet - and I know many people have Alabama fatigue and are growing very weary of hearing this - but just put your money on Alabama and call it a day. That's what I did last season, and that's what I'll do again this season. Of the previous three title runs, this will be by far Alabama's easiest path, and they'll be doing it with the best team of the Saban era. You need to warm up to (and profit from) the notion that nobody is beating Alabama this season. They are about to take domination to a whole new level.
 
Son_of_A_Legend said:
Stranger things have and do happen. Time will tell and determine their fate.


Last season is not this season. I repeat UGA will drop a game that they 'should' win and I see that happening against either Vanderbilt and/or Missouri. It's okay to disagree but this is why they'll play the game.
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As long as Mark Richt is the head coach, Georgia is very susceptible to lose a game they have no business losing. I'm totally on board with that. But two teams that they aren't going to lose to are Vandy and Missouri. Have stranger things happen? Sure . . . but Lloyd Christmas has a better shot of gunning down Mary Swanson than Georgia has of losing to either of those two teams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqdNe8u-Jsg
 
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Schrute said:
UGA schedule is why I would consider them. IMO they're better than the team last year that was a play away from getting the chance to dominate Notre Dame in the MNC game. It sets up the same this year. They get SoCar and LSU at home early in the season. They travel to Clemson in the opener. If they go 2-1 in the early games and beat the Gators in Jacksonville then they are likely the top 1 loss team heading into the SEC Championship game
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agree on the schedule. Why do you assume their d will be better?
 
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