Will Cignetti leave IU after the season?

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The buyout from another school to poach him on his recently signed extension, moved from $10M up to $15M. That is not a huge buyout this day and age.

PSU just opted to pay J Franklin $50M+ so we know they have the money.

If Cignetti takes IU to another playoff berth and perhaps wins a CFP game or 2 (or more), does he take another job?

I don't see how he doesn't?

As I type this, I have to think PSU's wishlist might just be:

1. Cignetti
2. Lea of Vandy
3. Rhule

Anyone agree? am I out of my mind? (probably)
 
majent said:
The buyout from another school to poach him on his recently signed extension, moved from $10M up to $15M. That is not a huge buyout this day and age.

PSU just opted to pay J Franklin $50M+ so we know they have the money.

If Cignetti takes IU to another playoff berth and perhaps wins a CFP game or 2 (or more), does he take another job?

I don't see how he doesn't?

As I type this, I have to think PSU's wishlist might just be:

1. Cignetti
2. Lea of Vandy
3. Rhule

Anyone agree? am I out of my mind? (probably)
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I've seen Brohm's name thrown around more than anyone other than Cignetti including Rhule. Can't see any way they go to another Vandy guy if for no reason other than appearance for the fan base.
 
KJ said:
I've seen Brohm's name thrown around more than anyone other than Cignetti including Rhule. Can't see any way they go to another Vandy guy if for no reason other than appearance for the fan base.
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Brohm back home though. I think he's here for a while and I believe has kids in school here.
 
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KJ said:
I'm sure it would be for the massive money grab

Only a few jobs like that open up every few years
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He's very family oriented. His dad who was his coach growing up still lived here too. Don't see him leaving.
 
I don't think Cignetti, Brohm, Dillingham or Lea takes PSU. For the last 3, they are HC at their home school and that's a dream job. Cignetti arguably has it as good at IU as he could have it at PSU - he could be the Hayes/Paterno/Bowden of Indiana whereas he'll never surpass Paterno at PSU, and IU has really bought in and supported the program (alums too). He could well be looking at being in the CFP each of his first 2 years in Bloomington with the future bright. Five years ago, I'd say any of those guys would have to consider PSU (or Florida) but the nature of CFB has changed so much that the relative quality of these jobs has shifted. PSU is a tough environment right now, even toxic. Franklin barely ever lost to anyone this side of M/OSU/Oregon until this year and was considered underperforming. That job could well chew someone up and spit them out in 3-4 years and for what? Those guys are at places that will support them, pay their assistants and give them good rosters and pay them more than they'll ever spend.

Rhule, Campbell or Drink or even Brian Kelly seem much more likely.
 
BiffTFinancial said:
I don't think Cignetti, Brohm, Dillingham or Lea takes PSU. For the last 3, they are HC at their home school and that's a dream job. Cignetti arguably has it as good at IU as he could have it at PSU - he could be the Hayes/Paterno/Bowden of Indiana whereas he'll never surpass Paterno at PSU, and IU has really bought in and supported the program (alums too). He could well be looking at being in the CFP each of his first 2 years in Bloomington with the future bright. Five years ago, I'd say any of those guys would have to consider PSU (or Florida) but the nature of CFB has changed so much that the relative quality of these jobs has shifted. PSU is a tough environment right now, even toxic. Franklin barely ever lost to anyone this side of M/OSU/Oregon until this year and was considered underperforming. That job could well chew someone up and spit them out in 3-4 years and for what? Those guys are at places that will support them, pay their assistants and give them good rosters and pay them more than they'll ever spend.

Rhule, Campbell or Drink or even Brian Kelly seem much more likely.
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BK would be so perfect

I don't think Rhule is going, almost to the point I thought I saw he ruled it out. Campbell's a Rust Belt type so could see it as much as the ISU base thinks he'll stay forever. I'd argue that Mizzou is giving Drink the exact treatment Cignetti is getting. Since the move to the SEC they are much more a football school than a basketball school.

Thing with PSU is it is a school similar to tOSU. They are basically the team of the state and that's rare to find. I know Pitt fans would disagree but that's night/day. Florida and FSU will be open most likely but I don't see either of them being in the category of PSU other than weather and recruiting. Still tons of competition at both schools.
 
Yeah, I’m not leaving IU and 100 million over 8 years for Penn St.

Penn St isn’t a dream job. Despite what their alumni think.
 
KJ said:
BK would be so perfect

I don't think Rhule is going, almost to the point I thought I saw he ruled it out. Campbell's a Rust Belt type so could see it as much as the ISU base thinks he'll stay forever. I'd argue that Mizzou is giving Drink the exact treatment Cignetti is getting. Since the move to the SEC they are much more a football school than a basketball school.

Thing with PSU is it is a school similar to tOSU. They are basically the team of the state and that's rare to find. I know Pitt fans would disagree but that's night/day. Florida and FSU will be open most likely but I don't see either of them being in the category of PSU other than weather and recruiting. Still tons of competition at both schools.
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Agree - Rhule isn't a great fit at PSU. And he has it decent too - UNL will invest and it too is the only game in town. Not to take us down that rabbit hole, but when it comes to owning the state, having in-state talent and having institutional alignment tOSU has that game down pat. LSU should be better in that regard than they are, frankly. Pitt takes away a bit from PSU but you're right they are little brother in a big way. Nebraska is solid in that regard, just doesn't have the resources of OSU or even PSU.

Drink is being treated very well by Mizzou, you're right. No one is leaving their current job due to disatisfaction [other than BK]. If Campbell doesn't leave now, he never will but I think they'll consider him and he'll have to listen.
 
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I mean no offense to the Penn St folks nor the B1G pundits, but it is laughable on some of the things I've read that DeBoer would jump at the chance to coach at PSU due to the prestige and tradition compared to Alabama
 
The aspirations some have for PSU to go after DeBoer vs the reality of the possibility of him actually entertaining the possibility are a big part of why the PSU program is where it is: paying Franklin 50M to go away and having zero realistic candidates who any other team in the country would take over Franklin. Maybe Drink, but that's it.
 
Lots of big-time jobs open now..

Penn State
Florida
LSU

Lane Kiffin will be highly sought after along with Cignetti.
 
majent said:
Lots of big-time jobs open now..

Penn State
Florida
LSU

Lane Kiffin will be highly sought after along with Cignetti.
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FSU also

Recruiting the Southeast will be a bigger deal than usual this offseason
 
LSU is the one available job of those that I'd argue is top 5. Pretty much anyone would have to consider that unless they already have a top 5 job (so forget Lanning and Kirby). Lane has to be #1 on LSU's list and I don't see them taking anyone doesn't have deep ties to the south. I'm sure they'll call Freeman, Drink and Cignetti too. Joe Brady too but does he want to come back to college? Drink has to listen and then I think Sumrall, Brent Key and Lashlee are realistic and good names. Overall, I think it's Kiffin then a bit of distance then Drink then the other 3. Fisch was at UF but I don't see him in BR.
 
BiffTFinancial said:
LSU is the one available job of those that I'd argue is top 5. Pretty much anyone would have to consider that unless they already have a top 5 job (so forget Lanning and Kirby). Lane has to be #1 on LSU's list and I don't see them taking anyone doesn't have deep ties to the south. I'm sure they'll call Freeman, Drink and Cignetti too. Joe Brady too but does he want to come back to college? Drink has to listen and then I think Sumrall, Brent Key and Lashlee are realistic and good names. Overall, I think it's Kiffin then a bit of distance then Drink then the other 3. Fisch was at UF but I don't see him in BR.
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This
 
Has Cignetti signed the new contract or just accepted it? Could be a pretty important distinction
 
I think Cigniti and Kiffin might stay put. Both are making the big $. both schools appear to have nil $ to compete for nc based on this season results. Both have relatively no pressure now. I know the open jobs have more power and $ but I don't think the difference in pressure is worth it anymore. The $ differences aren't worth it anymore. Stress is a literal killer and quality of life matters. With the huge $ they're already making might not be so easy to get them to move.
 
lvmike32 said:
I think Cigniti and Kiffin might stay put. Both are making the big $. both schools appear to have nil $ to compete for nc based on this season results. Both have relatively no pressure now. I know the open jobs have more power and $ but I don't think the difference in pressure is worth it anymore. The $ differences aren't worth it anymore. Stress is a literal killer and quality of life matters. With the huge $ they're already making might not be so easy to get them to move.
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That's what Rhule said in a nutshell about Nebraska. High end job without all the other BS.
 
Rhule would absolutely jizz all over himself if it meant getting into that Penn State job.

And it would be a pathetic hire. He had 3 good years at Temple, one at Baylor and sucked in the pros. But he’s from there and loves the prestige so he’d kill to get into a job with that much prestige.

What has he done at Nebraska to make anyone think this guy can turn a big time program around fast?

Please God get Kelly to Penn State. A fan base who thinks they’re better than they are with a coach who thinks he’s better than he is…chef’s kiss. Disaster waiting to happen.

And I’m all for that pompous douchebag Kelly to get crucified again with his smug little fat face blaming everyone else like he always does.

Stop demanding kids in a tornado have to go up 100 feet to tape practice and then die because of it, and take no blame. There’s a special place in hell for a shitbag like him. Not enough bad could happen to that guy.

Cig is 62…he’s an egomaniac and they’re on pace to have a statue build for the guy right in front of the stadium. He’s a top 7-8 paid guy w that deal, so why go somewhere they’re expecting you to win yesterday?

Lane too…Tennessee or USC, programs of huge prestige too, he did nothing for. Better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond. Hope he gets a huge ass raise from a state school like Toddy and stays there.
 
C-MAN said:
Local rumors floating around that Urban Meyer is a lead candidate for Penn State job.
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Only question with guys like Urban and Saban is will they as good in the nil portal era. Tend to be dictator like. Otherwise home run imo
 
C-MAN said:
Local rumors floating around that Urban Meyer is a lead candidate for Penn State job.
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That's consistent with what I would expect Penn State to want to do - make a big-name hire and win the press conference - but I really wonder about how good the fit would be for Meyer or the school. The game has changed a ton in the last few years and while I'm sure Meyer's ego is up for it, I don't now how well his approach would play with today's athletes. The expectations will be sky-high from the outset and I don't know if/when Meyer can meet them. If I'm Penn State, I'd resist the urge to win the press conference and get someone younger and hungrier than I'd expect Meyer to be. That said, Meyer was always a star on the recruiting trail and he is currently available so I can understand the allure even though I don't think it will work (and Meyer clutching his chest on the other sideline at the Shoe will be some sight).
 
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Only question with guys like Urban and Saban is will they as good in the nil portal era. Tend to be dictator like. Otherwise home run imo
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Meyer has to be more likely than Saban based purely on age. Meyer is 61, Saban turns 74 on Halloween. Plus, Saban is an employee of the University of Alabama currently (not to mention his numerous businesses in the state), in addition to his Gameday role
 
A more solid rumor I've seen today is Hartline to PSU.

They view him as a Lanning type.

They would keep Knowles in that situation.
 
I could see Hartline. Young offensive minded guy and familiarity with tOSU. Probably a better move long term for PSU. I think the urban speculation is due to him being seen in PA a couple of times recently, including having lunch with a local senator. Who knows?
 
I would puke if they hired Urban......literally. And maybe find a new team until he faints on the sidelines again and leaves
 
scarf31 said:
Rhule would absolutely jizz all over himself if it meant getting into that Penn State job.

And it would be a pathetic hire. He had 3 good years at Temple, one at Baylor and sucked in the pros. But he’s from there and loves the prestige so he’d kill to get into a job with that much prestige.

What has he done at Nebraska to make anyone think this guy can turn a big time program around fast?

Please God get Kelly to Penn State. A fan base who thinks they’re better than they are with a coach who thinks he’s better than he is…chef’s kiss. Disaster waiting to happen.

And I’m all for that pompous douchebag Kelly to get crucified again with his smug little fat face blaming everyone else like he always does.

Stop demanding kids in a tornado have to go up 100 feet to tape practice and then die because of it, and take no blame. There’s a special place in hell for a shitbag like him. Not enough bad could happen to that guy.

Cig is 62…he’s an egomaniac and they’re on pace to have a statue build for the guy right in front of the stadium. He’s a top 7-8 paid guy w that deal, so why go somewhere they’re expecting you to win yesterday?

Lane too…Tennessee or USC, programs of huge prestige too, he did nothing for. Better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond. Hope he gets a huge ass raise from a state school like Toddy and stays there.
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I think all these schools are completely missing the boat if they don’t go after Aaron Glenn. He himself will tell you how good he is before allowing the opponent to put up 45 without breaking a sweat.
 
gps_3 said:
Meyer has to be more likely than Saban based purely on age. Meyer is 61, Saban turns 74 on Halloween. Plus, Saban is an employee of the University of Alabama currently (not to mention his numerous businesses in the state), in addition to his Gameday role
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Agree. I don't think Saban coaches again. I just mentioned him for example purposes. I think they're similar in that they had total control. Today with portal transfer options coaches don't have that as much. Urban is a stud coach. Forget osu and Florida, he almost won a nc at Utah. But obviously has the health and now nil portal. Would be interesting
 
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