Who has a clue on the game 2night (ECU/UCF)
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E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
haha kyle, i almost cried when i saw garcia get hurt. It sucks, Tenn went offsides, he tries to just throw it deep and we lose 2 players on the return, on top of not having a flag on the play.
Garcia should be alright but JeanPierre (LG) is done for the year.
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
some different info
from CFN
East Carolina (4-3) at UCF (2-5), 8:15 EST, ESPN, Sunday, November 2
Why to watch: Despite having lost three of the last four games, East Carolina feels it can regroup in time to win an East Division that’s there for the taking. With the exception of the loss of LB Quentin Cotton, this is essentially the same team that opened the year with wins over Virginia Tech and West Virginia. Before going on hiatus for a week, the Pirates appeared to get back on track with a 30-10 rout of Memphis. If UCF has any chance of defending its Conference USA title, it’ll have to turn things around immediately. The Knights squandered a halftime lead at Tulsa Sunday night to fall a full game behind East Carolina and Marshall in the division. The Pirates and Herd are on the November slate, so there’s still hope for a revival.
Why East Carolina might win: Skip Holtz’s decision to insert QB Rob Kass into the lineup energized the Pirate offense two weeks ago. A better pocket passer than Patrick Pinkney, he threw two touchdowns in the win over Memphis and made good use of WR Dwayne Harris and TE Davon Drew. If East Carolina can jump out to lead, UCF doesn’t have the offense to mount a comeback. The Knights continue to have problems under center and remain last in the country in total offense at just 248 yards a game.
Why UCF might win: The Knights are a flawed team, but they are getting better. Over the last three games, they’ve beaten SMU, nearly upset Miami, and held a halftime lead at Tulsa. The defense has been the catalyst, picking off seven passes in that span and putting more heat on the quarterback. Bruce Miller and Lawrence Young play with intensity on the front seven and the defensive backfield is a veteran group with excellent ball skills.
Who to watch: East Carolina RB Jonathan Williams was suspended during the break, putting pressure on Norman Whitley to pick up the slack. The sophomore has just 33 carries all year, but is coming off the most productive game of his career and has shown flashes of being a breakaway threat. Against the league’s top run defense, both he and Brandon Summers are being asked to shoulder the load on the ground.
What will happen: East Carolina will continue its drive back to league contention with a road divisional win on the road. The offense will sputter, but the defense will control the line of scrimmage and keep UCF from getting out of reverse on offense.
CFN Prediction: East Carolina 23 … UCF 17 ... Line: East Carolina -3.5
Must See Rating: (5 RocknRolla – 1 High School Musical 3: Senior Year) … 2
from ECU newspaper:
Pirates head to Orlando for key C-USA East showdown
By Nathan Summers
Saturday, November 01, 2008
East Carolina would much rather beat the UCF Knights than join them.
A Pirate football team which has struggled at times this season to find the paint of the end zone hopes to paint a masterpiece against a UCF team which has struggled to score.
A return to the tandem-quarterback attack of Patrick Pinkney and Rob Kass gave the Pirates their first win in four games a couple of weeks ago against Memphis, and also gave ECU (4-3 overall) a leg up in Conference USA’s East Division with a 2-1 mark.
UCF, meanwhile, is on the chase already with a 1-2 league record.
“We know what we’re battling for at this point,” fourth-year ECU head coach Skip Holtz said. “The nonconference games are done and we’re in a race for the conference and we’re excited about the opportunity we have.”
A win for ECU today would leave the Pirates in a first-place tie with Marshall in the East and set up a memorable clash for the division crown against the Thundering Herd next Saturday in Greenville. It was Marshall that throttled ECU late last season to expel the Pirates from the C-USA title race.
In order to earn another chance, ECU will need to overcome its own recent offensive woes while slowing the Knights’ listless attack tonight inside Bright House Networks Stadium.
ECU will lean hard on its quarterbacks and on sophomore running back Norman Whitley, who assumes the top spot at running back after the suspension of Jonathan Williams.
Although UCF has been punchless on offense, ECU could find the going pretty tough against C-USA’s top rush defense and third best total defense.
“You look at their defense and you kind of say wow,” Holtz said of the Knights, who led the nation in interceptions (14) entering the week.
That stalwart pass coverage is powered by the fearsome threesome of defensive backs Joe Burnett, Sha’Reff Rashad and Johnell Neal, who have three interceptions apiece.
“They break on the ball, they play a lot of zone defense, and I think that’s definitely the strength of this defense, the back end,” Holtz said of the Knights, also C-USA’s top team in pass defense efficiency.
Up front, the Knights are led by interior linemen Torrell Troup (26 tackles) and Antonio Wallace (16 tackles).
According to Holtz, it’s the pressure up front that has helped UCF become such an interception threat in the secondary.
“Their defensive front creates a lot of penetration, and that’s a big reason they’ve gotten as many interceptions as they have,” he said. “They’re putting a lot of pressure on the quarterback and making him throw early.”
Turnovers have haunted the Pirates this season, as ECU has lost possession 15 times in seven games.
Much like the Pirates, the Knights have employed two quarterbacks this season, but have settled recently on true freshman Rob Calabrese. Appearing in five games, Calabrese has thrown for 434 yards and three touchdowns, two of them in last Sunday’s loss to C-USA titan Tulsa.
The quarterback reflects his offense, as UCF is young and inexperienced on the line and at wide receiver.
Ronnie Weaver leads the running attack with 348 yards and two touchdowns, and Brian Watters has a team-high 27 receptions for 386 yards, but UCF has fallen to last in C-USA in total offense, scoring offense and pass offense.
“Right now, they’re continuing to work to find that rhythm, what their identity is and what they’re going to be,” Holtz said of UCF.
But the Knight offense will hope to have a breakout game against ECU’s stitched-together defense.
Defensive end Marcus Hands (back), defensive tackle Khalif Mitchell (toe), linebacker Melvin Patterson (leg) and cornerback Jerek Hewett (shoulder surgery) are expected to miss tonight’s game, and strong safety J.J. Milbrook (ankle) is doubtful, joining defensive end Scotty Robinson (foot).
Perhaps the biggest game-breaking threat UCF has to offer is on special teams. Return specialist Joe Burnett leads C-USA in kick returns and punt returns, and has already gone the distance for touchdowns twice on kickoffs, including a 91-yarder.
The Knights’ only wins this season were a 17-0 shutout against Football Championship Subdivision member South Carolina State and a 31-17 win over 1-8 SMU in league action.
But their losses illustrate a difficult schedule somewhat comparable to ECU’s non-conference slate. UCF lost to nationally ranked USF, as well as Atlantic Coast Conference members Boston College and Miami on the road. UCF dropped C-USA games to UTEP and 8-1 Tulsa.
“I look at this game kind of like the Virginia game (a 35-20 loss for ECU) in that this is a team whose record isn’t very impressive, but I think they’re a different team at home,” Holtz said of UCF, 2-1 this season at home.
ECU has dominated the all-time series against UCF, entering tonight’s kickoff with a 6-1 edge, including last year’s 52-38 Pirate shelling in Greenville.
from ECU paper:
Pirates still looking for answers at receiver
By Nathan Summers
The Daily Reflector
Saturday, November 01, 2008
T.J. Lee is in the athletic prime of his life, but even he was sucking wind on Wednesday night after East Carolina's football practice.
While the rest of the team strode slowly off the field toward the locker room, Lee and the rest of ECU's wide receivers were running through what seemed to be an entire playbook's worth of pass routes.
Pirate quarterbacks sent a steady stream of footballs in their direction for better than 10 extra minutes of work, evidence of just how hard the ECU offense is trying to rekindle the rhythm that carried it to a 3-0 start to the season.
As the Pirates stare down another great opportunity to win Conference USA's East Division in the team's final five games, Lee is taking part in a hard push to make the offense click.
“We just wanted to work on executing with the ball each possession, run each play to the best of our ability,” Lee said of the team's two weeks of practice leading into tonight's kickoff against UCF in Orlando.
Jamar Bryant is gone for the year with a suspension, and lead receiver Dwayne Harris (team-high 45 receptions for 562 yards and a touchdown) has been a lingering question mark throughout the team's second bye week and into this weekend with a shoulder injury.
That means everyone behind them is in custody of the Pirate pass game, and anyone feeling underused in the offense has a chance to do something about it.
Lee is the lone senior in the current framework, and will be flanked today by junior Alex Taylor (9-158-1), redshirt freshman Darryl Freeney (4-50) and junior Reyn Willis. With redshirt D.J. McFadden out of the mix with a hamstring injury, true freshman Joe Womack (1-3) will also continue to see his role expand, and newcomer T.J. Terrell could also find the field.
Despite such an array of talent, big plays have not materialized yet for the Pirates.
“The one thing I think we've lacked this year offensively is that home run,” ECU wide receivers coach Donnie Kirkpatrick said. “We've had a lot of medium-type plays, and Dwayne Harris has had a lot of really nice football plays, but we're just working extra hard on throwing the deep ball.”
Kirkpatrick said the Pirates looked down field a good deal more in the last two games — a 35-20 loss at Virginia and a 30-10 home win over Memphis — but no one has been able to connect at the other end.
The loss of Bryant has admittedly been a limiting factor in the growth rate of the Pirates' young receivers.
“We've all got to kind of pick up the slack a little bit,” Kirkpatrick said. “We've got a good group, it's just that (Bryant's suspension) has made us really young all of a sudden.”
There has been progress, and Kirkpatrick thinks the results will begin to show from the team's other receivers with the opportunity to play.
But at the moment, the pack still lags behind the big two.
The Harris-Bryant combo has made more than half of the Pirates' catches, 64-of-122, to date. Bryant has been out of the lineup since before the Virginia game Oct. 11.
“Somebody's got to do it in a game, and nobody's stepped up yet,” Kirkpatrick said. “It's time for somebody to break out and help Dwayne out, and make a few of those plays he's making.”
Contact Nathan Summers at nsummers@coxnc.com or (252)329-9595.
from CFN
East Carolina (4-3) at UCF (2-5), 8:15 EST, ESPN, Sunday, November 2
Why to watch: Despite having lost three of the last four games, East Carolina feels it can regroup in time to win an East Division that’s there for the taking. With the exception of the loss of LB Quentin Cotton, this is essentially the same team that opened the year with wins over Virginia Tech and West Virginia. Before going on hiatus for a week, the Pirates appeared to get back on track with a 30-10 rout of Memphis. If UCF has any chance of defending its Conference USA title, it’ll have to turn things around immediately. The Knights squandered a halftime lead at Tulsa Sunday night to fall a full game behind East Carolina and Marshall in the division. The Pirates and Herd are on the November slate, so there’s still hope for a revival.
Why East Carolina might win: Skip Holtz’s decision to insert QB Rob Kass into the lineup energized the Pirate offense two weeks ago. A better pocket passer than Patrick Pinkney, he threw two touchdowns in the win over Memphis and made good use of WR Dwayne Harris and TE Davon Drew. If East Carolina can jump out to lead, UCF doesn’t have the offense to mount a comeback. The Knights continue to have problems under center and remain last in the country in total offense at just 248 yards a game.
Why UCF might win: The Knights are a flawed team, but they are getting better. Over the last three games, they’ve beaten SMU, nearly upset Miami, and held a halftime lead at Tulsa. The defense has been the catalyst, picking off seven passes in that span and putting more heat on the quarterback. Bruce Miller and Lawrence Young play with intensity on the front seven and the defensive backfield is a veteran group with excellent ball skills.
Who to watch: East Carolina RB Jonathan Williams was suspended during the break, putting pressure on Norman Whitley to pick up the slack. The sophomore has just 33 carries all year, but is coming off the most productive game of his career and has shown flashes of being a breakaway threat. Against the league’s top run defense, both he and Brandon Summers are being asked to shoulder the load on the ground.
What will happen: East Carolina will continue its drive back to league contention with a road divisional win on the road. The offense will sputter, but the defense will control the line of scrimmage and keep UCF from getting out of reverse on offense.
CFN Prediction: East Carolina 23 … UCF 17 ... Line: East Carolina -3.5
Must See Rating: (5 RocknRolla – 1 High School Musical 3: Senior Year) … 2
from ECU newspaper:
Pirates head to Orlando for key C-USA East showdown
By Nathan Summers
Saturday, November 01, 2008
East Carolina would much rather beat the UCF Knights than join them.
A Pirate football team which has struggled at times this season to find the paint of the end zone hopes to paint a masterpiece against a UCF team which has struggled to score.
A return to the tandem-quarterback attack of Patrick Pinkney and Rob Kass gave the Pirates their first win in four games a couple of weeks ago against Memphis, and also gave ECU (4-3 overall) a leg up in Conference USA’s East Division with a 2-1 mark.
UCF, meanwhile, is on the chase already with a 1-2 league record.
“We know what we’re battling for at this point,” fourth-year ECU head coach Skip Holtz said. “The nonconference games are done and we’re in a race for the conference and we’re excited about the opportunity we have.”
A win for ECU today would leave the Pirates in a first-place tie with Marshall in the East and set up a memorable clash for the division crown against the Thundering Herd next Saturday in Greenville. It was Marshall that throttled ECU late last season to expel the Pirates from the C-USA title race.
In order to earn another chance, ECU will need to overcome its own recent offensive woes while slowing the Knights’ listless attack tonight inside Bright House Networks Stadium.
ECU will lean hard on its quarterbacks and on sophomore running back Norman Whitley, who assumes the top spot at running back after the suspension of Jonathan Williams.
Although UCF has been punchless on offense, ECU could find the going pretty tough against C-USA’s top rush defense and third best total defense.
“You look at their defense and you kind of say wow,” Holtz said of the Knights, who led the nation in interceptions (14) entering the week.
That stalwart pass coverage is powered by the fearsome threesome of defensive backs Joe Burnett, Sha’Reff Rashad and Johnell Neal, who have three interceptions apiece.
“They break on the ball, they play a lot of zone defense, and I think that’s definitely the strength of this defense, the back end,” Holtz said of the Knights, also C-USA’s top team in pass defense efficiency.
Up front, the Knights are led by interior linemen Torrell Troup (26 tackles) and Antonio Wallace (16 tackles).
According to Holtz, it’s the pressure up front that has helped UCF become such an interception threat in the secondary.
“Their defensive front creates a lot of penetration, and that’s a big reason they’ve gotten as many interceptions as they have,” he said. “They’re putting a lot of pressure on the quarterback and making him throw early.”
Turnovers have haunted the Pirates this season, as ECU has lost possession 15 times in seven games.
Much like the Pirates, the Knights have employed two quarterbacks this season, but have settled recently on true freshman Rob Calabrese. Appearing in five games, Calabrese has thrown for 434 yards and three touchdowns, two of them in last Sunday’s loss to C-USA titan Tulsa.
The quarterback reflects his offense, as UCF is young and inexperienced on the line and at wide receiver.
Ronnie Weaver leads the running attack with 348 yards and two touchdowns, and Brian Watters has a team-high 27 receptions for 386 yards, but UCF has fallen to last in C-USA in total offense, scoring offense and pass offense.
“Right now, they’re continuing to work to find that rhythm, what their identity is and what they’re going to be,” Holtz said of UCF.
But the Knight offense will hope to have a breakout game against ECU’s stitched-together defense.
Defensive end Marcus Hands (back), defensive tackle Khalif Mitchell (toe), linebacker Melvin Patterson (leg) and cornerback Jerek Hewett (shoulder surgery) are expected to miss tonight’s game, and strong safety J.J. Milbrook (ankle) is doubtful, joining defensive end Scotty Robinson (foot).
Perhaps the biggest game-breaking threat UCF has to offer is on special teams. Return specialist Joe Burnett leads C-USA in kick returns and punt returns, and has already gone the distance for touchdowns twice on kickoffs, including a 91-yarder.
The Knights’ only wins this season were a 17-0 shutout against Football Championship Subdivision member South Carolina State and a 31-17 win over 1-8 SMU in league action.
But their losses illustrate a difficult schedule somewhat comparable to ECU’s non-conference slate. UCF lost to nationally ranked USF, as well as Atlantic Coast Conference members Boston College and Miami on the road. UCF dropped C-USA games to UTEP and 8-1 Tulsa.
“I look at this game kind of like the Virginia game (a 35-20 loss for ECU) in that this is a team whose record isn’t very impressive, but I think they’re a different team at home,” Holtz said of UCF, 2-1 this season at home.
ECU has dominated the all-time series against UCF, entering tonight’s kickoff with a 6-1 edge, including last year’s 52-38 Pirate shelling in Greenville.
from ECU paper:
Pirates still looking for answers at receiver
By Nathan Summers
The Daily Reflector
Saturday, November 01, 2008
T.J. Lee is in the athletic prime of his life, but even he was sucking wind on Wednesday night after East Carolina's football practice.
While the rest of the team strode slowly off the field toward the locker room, Lee and the rest of ECU's wide receivers were running through what seemed to be an entire playbook's worth of pass routes.
Pirate quarterbacks sent a steady stream of footballs in their direction for better than 10 extra minutes of work, evidence of just how hard the ECU offense is trying to rekindle the rhythm that carried it to a 3-0 start to the season.
As the Pirates stare down another great opportunity to win Conference USA's East Division in the team's final five games, Lee is taking part in a hard push to make the offense click.
“We just wanted to work on executing with the ball each possession, run each play to the best of our ability,” Lee said of the team's two weeks of practice leading into tonight's kickoff against UCF in Orlando.
Jamar Bryant is gone for the year with a suspension, and lead receiver Dwayne Harris (team-high 45 receptions for 562 yards and a touchdown) has been a lingering question mark throughout the team's second bye week and into this weekend with a shoulder injury.
That means everyone behind them is in custody of the Pirate pass game, and anyone feeling underused in the offense has a chance to do something about it.
Lee is the lone senior in the current framework, and will be flanked today by junior Alex Taylor (9-158-1), redshirt freshman Darryl Freeney (4-50) and junior Reyn Willis. With redshirt D.J. McFadden out of the mix with a hamstring injury, true freshman Joe Womack (1-3) will also continue to see his role expand, and newcomer T.J. Terrell could also find the field.
Despite such an array of talent, big plays have not materialized yet for the Pirates.
“The one thing I think we've lacked this year offensively is that home run,” ECU wide receivers coach Donnie Kirkpatrick said. “We've had a lot of medium-type plays, and Dwayne Harris has had a lot of really nice football plays, but we're just working extra hard on throwing the deep ball.”
Kirkpatrick said the Pirates looked down field a good deal more in the last two games — a 35-20 loss at Virginia and a 30-10 home win over Memphis — but no one has been able to connect at the other end.
The loss of Bryant has admittedly been a limiting factor in the growth rate of the Pirates' young receivers.
“We've all got to kind of pick up the slack a little bit,” Kirkpatrick said. “We've got a good group, it's just that (Bryant's suspension) has made us really young all of a sudden.”
There has been progress, and Kirkpatrick thinks the results will begin to show from the team's other receivers with the opportunity to play.
But at the moment, the pack still lags behind the big two.
The Harris-Bryant combo has made more than half of the Pirates' catches, 64-of-122, to date. Bryant has been out of the lineup since before the Virginia game Oct. 11.
“Somebody's got to do it in a game, and nobody's stepped up yet,” Kirkpatrick said. “It's time for somebody to break out and help Dwayne out, and make a few of those plays he's making.”
Contact Nathan Summers at nsummers@coxnc.com or (252)329-9595.
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
UCF Knights hopes for energized white-clad crowd when they return to Bright House Networks Stadium for first time in a month
<DL class=byline>Iliana Lim�n | Sentinel Staff Writer <DD>November 2, 2008 </DD></DL>UCF senior playmaker Joe Burnett doesn't care what color the fans wear, how cold it is outside or what day of the week the Knights play.
Burnett said he is just happy to finally be playing a football game in the friendly confines of Bright House Networks Stadium tonight when UCF (2-5, 1-2) hosts East Carolina (4-3, 2-1) in a game broadcast nationally on ESPN.
It has been a month since the Knights have played at home. UCF's last two home games were on Oct. 4 against SMU and Sept. 6 against South Florida.
"We shot ourselves in the foot the last couple of games, so we need our fans to come back to this Bright House stadium and support us," he said. "Hopefully, our fans can notice that we've [got] five games, conference games, still ahead and we can still reach our goals."
<!-- END rail -->Senior safety Jason Venson said the home crowd is a big advantage for the Knights. The team is 8-2 in Bright House Networks Stadium and undefeated in Conference USA play.
"It's nice to be in front of your home crowd and the best fans in the country out here at Bright House Stadium," he said. "They come and support us no matter what. We know we're going to have a packed house despite our record right now. We're trying to get back on pace and I think our fans understand that. I think they're going to look forward to coming to see us play against a good ECU team."
UCF officials had distributed nearly 40,000 tickets by Thursday afternoon, but it is unclear how many fans will attend the game thanks to the team's losing record, relatively cool weather and the 8:17 p.m. kickoff on a school night.
"Well certainly there's going to be an adjustment that people have to make to attend this game," said Joe Hornstein, UCF's associate athletic director for marketing and communication. "We all have to go through that. If it's a Sunday game and there's a child going to school the next day, some decisions have to be made. Our fans have known from the get-go about this game and people have had some time to adjust their schedules. Hopefully a lot of people will still be there Sunday to support the Knights."
The school has adjusted its tailgating hours, opening lots today at noon instead of 7 a.m.
"On Sunday most people are in church or what not, but opening the lots at noon still gives fans eight hours to tailgate," Hornstein said.
UCF has added a two-for-one ticket promotion and asked fans to wear white to the game, helping the school put its best foot forward on national television.
"If that's what it takes to get the fans into the stadium to support us, then white it out, black it out, red it out, whatever," Burnett said.
UCF Coach George O'Leary said he doesn't anticipate any problems packing the stadium.
"It will be well attended," he said. "Again, our team knows the importance of the Sunday night game. We have a short week before we head into Southern Miss so they've got a good two weeks ahead of them."
<DL class=byline>Iliana Lim�n | Sentinel Staff Writer <DD>November 2, 2008 </DD></DL>UCF senior playmaker Joe Burnett doesn't care what color the fans wear, how cold it is outside or what day of the week the Knights play.
Burnett said he is just happy to finally be playing a football game in the friendly confines of Bright House Networks Stadium tonight when UCF (2-5, 1-2) hosts East Carolina (4-3, 2-1) in a game broadcast nationally on ESPN.
It has been a month since the Knights have played at home. UCF's last two home games were on Oct. 4 against SMU and Sept. 6 against South Florida.
"We shot ourselves in the foot the last couple of games, so we need our fans to come back to this Bright House stadium and support us," he said. "Hopefully, our fans can notice that we've [got] five games, conference games, still ahead and we can still reach our goals."
<!-- END rail -->Senior safety Jason Venson said the home crowd is a big advantage for the Knights. The team is 8-2 in Bright House Networks Stadium and undefeated in Conference USA play.
"It's nice to be in front of your home crowd and the best fans in the country out here at Bright House Stadium," he said. "They come and support us no matter what. We know we're going to have a packed house despite our record right now. We're trying to get back on pace and I think our fans understand that. I think they're going to look forward to coming to see us play against a good ECU team."
UCF officials had distributed nearly 40,000 tickets by Thursday afternoon, but it is unclear how many fans will attend the game thanks to the team's losing record, relatively cool weather and the 8:17 p.m. kickoff on a school night.
"Well certainly there's going to be an adjustment that people have to make to attend this game," said Joe Hornstein, UCF's associate athletic director for marketing and communication. "We all have to go through that. If it's a Sunday game and there's a child going to school the next day, some decisions have to be made. Our fans have known from the get-go about this game and people have had some time to adjust their schedules. Hopefully a lot of people will still be there Sunday to support the Knights."
The school has adjusted its tailgating hours, opening lots today at noon instead of 7 a.m.
"On Sunday most people are in church or what not, but opening the lots at noon still gives fans eight hours to tailgate," Hornstein said.
UCF has added a two-for-one ticket promotion and asked fans to wear white to the game, helping the school put its best foot forward on national television.
"If that's what it takes to get the fans into the stadium to support us, then white it out, black it out, red it out, whatever," Burnett said.
UCF Coach George O'Leary said he doesn't anticipate any problems packing the stadium.
"It will be well attended," he said. "Again, our team knows the importance of the Sunday night game. We have a short week before we head into Southern Miss so they've got a good two weeks ahead of them."
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
i can't see how east carolina doesn't win this game handedly, but they've really been underperforming lately. thinkin ecu or no play
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Im so jealous of BAR and all his good numbers he gets
Gotta be quick.
Can't wait till Sunday afternoon to play a game thats been on the board for 7 days now..
I think I saw a 5 on this now..wow.
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
just played -3 1h (-105)...may look to double up at half if it loses. think ecu is a solid td better than ucf
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
:whip:
illow:
Love the strategy.
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
just so I have something to watch tonight I decided this was the best bet I could make here.
ECU points in first half from most recent game: 7, 6, 10, 14, 7, 17, 7
UCF points in first half from most recent game: 19, 7, 10, 7, 7, 10, 7
Add in bad weather / sloppy field
Add in a little feeling out period before adjustments are made in the 2nd half.
UCF run defense pretty strong
UCF offense is pretty bad
Hopefully its a lot of long fields and no big plays on special teams
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
well, it can go under in the 1st half and over for the game :cheers:
jimbo1227
Nice around mics, word to pippen
east carolina's season has been funny ATS wise. They started out cashing huge underdog tickets being heavily undervalued and then they couldn't cash the way overvalued favorite lines and now are they back to being undervalued? either way i wouldn't bet em laying pts on the road as a public favorite type bet. the game last year UCF dominated offensively, but turned it over like 5 times and got routed. i know these teams are different, especially UCF. i think it will be pretty close game, back and forth possibly. public is liking the under here and the line has dropped heavily but i thought this much of a drop has to lead to some value in the over??
jimbo1227
Nice around mics, word to pippen
ETG- there is some crazy shit going on w/ that first half total. pinnacle (one of the most respected books imo) has the total @ 24.5 w/ -145 juice on the under. all other books has 23.5 w/ under juice or even juice. the one books that has juice on the over is bodog which of course just puts their lines where the money is. so i think public is hitting the first half over, but the smart books have juice on the under. all i can say is that it would be crazy if it landed on 24.
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
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