Week 4 Discussion Thread

Falcons, Bears, Packers, Steelers all have byes next week.

Even though I don't really like what at least two of these teams are doing right now, I have this feeling this goes 2-2 at worst. If it's still Mariota, you can talk me into Atlanta. And the Steelers are overseas so whereas I would normally think a Minnesota team getting healthier would wreck this team, that makes it tougher. And the Bears get the Raiders who could easily vomit up another home game. Although I really want to make a case for them on Sunday.
 
Even though I don't really like what at least two of these teams are doing right now, I have this feeling this goes 2-2 at worst. If it's still Mariota, you can talk me into Atlanta. And the Steelers are overseas so whereas I would normally think a Minnesota team getting healthier would wreck this team, that makes it tougher. And the Bears get the Raiders who could easily vomit up another home game. Although I really want to make a case for them on Sunday.
byes were corrupted due to the way I tabulated.

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international games 2024:
Faves : 4-1
O/U: 3-2
 
They held a pretty good GB offense to 10pts and 230 yards of total offense...on grass of course. Pretty damn good though. I believe they shut down Balt also.
 
They held a pretty good GB offense to 10pts and 230 yards of total offense...on grass of course. Pretty damn good though. I believe they shut down Balt also.
Yes.

Baltimore had around 250 of offense.

Turnovers hurt.

A fumble return and 3 drives under 36 yards contributed. Plus, Baltimore only led 20-10 early 4th.

Bengals had 2 second half yards -- 141 total.
 
Gonna keep riding with Vikings long as JJ hurt, still believe Wentz is much better and think they get Addison back this week also don’t they? Vikings d should take apart the Steelers no run game and dink and dunk passing attack., usually don’t love getting real involved with these Europe games but can’t help myself here, play on with Wentz and play against everything double bitch.

I see no reason broncos d doesn’t destroy bungals and their backup qb in a similar fashion that minny did, terrible coach, terrible oline, backup qb = bad bad things vs good defenses!! Id think bungals awful d is just what the dr ordered for nix and the Donks offense to get right! I’m usually allergic to laying 7+ in the nfl but honestly think it should be at least -10.,

Id like to play Seattle cause I love this team but I hate the road team on Thu night, actually think this a tailor made 1st half or game under. Loved it in sf last week and love it again here. Cardinals d is worlds better than the offense imo, Marvin jr looks to be on the verge of kinda a bust? Dunno if it him or his midget qb but doesn’t matter, I just don’t think they gonna light up Seattle secondary which I think might be the best in the league. This feels like another Div defensive battle to me, Thursday night just puts the cherry on top for 1st half under.

Feel like they begging me to play the panthers! Why are the pats laying 5? I rather panthers didn’t just destroy atl but doesn’t change the fact I thought they were a play on team as a dog coming into the year. No clue what pats have done to be called any better than panthers? They are young and dumb! For sure it take the points or nothing.

if the giants get to +7 I’ll bite. The dart era begins which should give the team a little juice, scatteboo gives the team a lot of juice and I love Tracy is out and he taking over. Lost in the fact chargers are winning is the fact Herbert is getting hit a lot! Think giants dline could be problematic here. I have no doubt chargers win and this ain’t my favorite play but if they give me 7 think I gotta do it.

No clue why or how Houston is laying more than a td? I don’t wanna play titans, I have my doubts they can score but Houston can’t protect stroud at all and the playcalling is uninspiring at best. I like Ryans but something bout most these defensive coaches their oline’s freaking stink!! Seattle being the only exception I can think of. Game will probably fly over even tho I have no clue how!!

Think the rams maybe bring colts a little down to earth, outside Philly rams are pretty good! The total is super high here and I kinda think rams d holds colts to a lower score this week but I rather lay the -3.5 than mess with total I think.
 
Even though I don't really like what at least two of these teams are doing right now, I have this feeling this goes 2-2 at worst. If it's still Mariota, you can talk me into Atlanta. And the Steelers are overseas so whereas I would normally think a Minnesota team getting healthier would wreck this team, that makes it tougher. And the Bears get the Raiders who could easily vomit up another home game. Although I really want to make a case for them on Sunday.

I hate the Europe games but they forcing me to play Vikings laying less than a fg. I dunno how that d doesn’t take double bitch and Steelers pathetic o apart? Pretty sure Vikings get Addison back this week and they a huge play on team for me while JJ is hurt, I want no part of them once he comes back cause I think he terrible, I trust Wentz way more.
 
I mean Jax was AFC champ minus refs with Blake Bortles at quarterback. Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson won SBs. Flacco has already won one himself

I don’t even think Flacco the problem. It his lack of weapons. Although I do think Judkins gives them hope. Think they be a handful for lions but dunno if I wanna bet it.
 
😄 I was thinking the same thing. I don't know how but they are both way overdue for some td's. It's down to 38.5 rn

Pretty much same number as Steelers/jets week 1. Thought that be a total shitfest also. Used to love these 38ish totals under but not so much anymore. Damn thing could be 9-6 but if it getting bet down I’d be scared to mess with under. At some point you would think stroud and those weapons put up some points!!
 
LVR too Geno on pace for 68 sacks

I havnt seen much of Raiders but I did hear geno been getting sacked a lot! That not good cause he already a pick waiting to happen, I kinda like bears this week but not sure I want to play them.

I don’t think he getting sacked a ton but Herbert is getting hit a lot, chargers might wanna be careful or they gonna get him hurt.
 
geno bears
I feel u on geno especially if they can't run thats a turnover thru the air. I know a lot of bears tickets being written now after the dallas game. But until I see the bears win 1 road game..they are winning 1 out of every 4 roadies last five seasons. Now I did bet them to beat dallas at home because..dallas. but bears on the road idk yet
 
I feel u on geno especially if they can't run thats a turnover thru the air. I know a lot of bears tickets being written now after the dallas game. But until I see the bears win 1 road game..they are winning 1 out of every 4 roadies last five seasons. Now I did bet them to beat dallas at home because..dallas. but bears on the road idk yet

Yea that kinda why I’m not jumping at the chance to play them, don’t really like teams off good performances, agree about road also but that worries me much less in Vegas where I assume bears have plenty of fans? Bears not exactly a team I wanna be on when that a popular opinion.
 
Giants 1) should have started Jameis in the first place over the bum Russell Wilson who going from team-to-team repeatedly proves that he doesn't deserve a starting job in the NFL and 2) Giants should start Jameis now over Dart who should be sitting and learning instead of facing the Chargers defense in Week 4
 
To this day still don't get Cleveland dumping Baker. If they had him now with that defense they'd be in the mix.

Yeah Chargers O line starting to feel loss of Slater to quality and depth. Giants could upset them i think.
 
To this day still don't get Cleveland dumping Baker. If they had him now with that defense they'd be in the mix.

Yeah Chargers O line starting to feel loss of Slater to quality and depth. Giants could upset them i think.
But do you think Baker would be this good if he stayed in Cleveland? Seems like Tampa Bay's coaching staff really unlocked his potential?
 
whats up, mike 🤝

dude, you may be onto something. chargers 3-0 L3 -every one of those was division rival. now they fly to jersey to play NFC at 10am pacific time. that's a spot.
I didn't see game but read Herbert was running for his life all game vs Denver yet somehow lac won. Guy here on another thread said they've lost another one lineman too. And nyg strength is their d line. My fear is Dart giving game to them via TOs. Rookie 1st game vs very good defense. But imo nyg are best long dog this weekend. Gl
 
I didn't see game but read Herbert was running for his life all game vs Denver yet somehow lac won. Guy here on another thread said they've lost another one lineman too. And nyg strength is their d line. My fear is Dart giving game to them via TOs. Rookie 1st game vs very good defense. But imo nyg are best long dog this weekend. Gl
Sounds like a great argument for an under!
 
Yeah. At least Bengals have an excuse with the Burrow injury. Wtf is the Falcon excuse for losing 30-0 to…….. the fucking Panthers. 😂

No clue, I was so close to betting panthers but def didn’t expect that!! I thought coming into the year panthers be a solid covering team but dunno how they beat anyone 30-0! 🤣

excuse or not I shoulda know that coach/oline combo prob get burrow hurt again, and the d so awful I doubt it woulda mattered. Although I think the price was ok and assuming burrow didn’t get hurt they were probably a playoff team in the afc which has gotten much thinner this year!! I still have a seattle future at least! Obviously they not the best option either but I only like these with really fat odds!
 
I didn't see game but read Herbert was running for his life all game vs Denver yet somehow lac won. Guy here on another thread said they've lost another one lineman too. And nyg strength is their d line. My fear is Dart giving game to them via TOs. Rookie 1st game vs very good defense. But imo nyg are best long dog this weekend. Gl

Herbert been getting hit a lot!! def agree with you here. I think if it touches 7 I’ll prob take a little nyg. I prefer dart to Russ all day, at least he can move around and potentially make plays. I like that Tracy out now and scatteboo the main guy also, they really young but think nyg way more dynamic this week than they been. Mistakes or not I think the 2 rookies will give the team juice.
 
Herbert been getting hit a lot!! def agree with you here. I think if it touches 7 I’ll prob take a little nyg. I prefer dart to Russ all day, at least he can move around and potentially make plays. I like that Tracy out now and scatteboo the main guy also, they really young but think nyg way more dynamic this week than they been. Mistakes or not I think the 2 rookies will give the team juice.
Agree totally. Not playing much. Some 2 team 6pt teasers with Houston Denver so far. Will add one with GB and likely KC. Nothing straight up yet. GB seems like the classic trap but Dallas is beat up and just awful on defense. At least have to put GB in teaser at around PK. GL
 
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