Week 12 ML Dogs
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Would be so bitter if Buffs start 5-0 then don‘t get a bowl!
booksbestfriend
On Johnny's Shitlist
UVA
VT
Cal
UTEP
ISU
May have a few others. Dont think the entire card is available to me yet.
VT
Cal
UTEP
ISU
May have a few others. Dont think the entire card is available to me yet.
Frank Costanza
Co-Inventor of the Man's Bra
Love SMU. Memphis has sucked on the road this season.
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
Make that 3 for SMU +280
Others I may like:
Colorado +235
ULM +290
Illinois +550
Virginia +215
Tennessee +185
Bowling Green +220 (if Kato Nelson out for Akron)
UCLA +155
UTEP +250
Cincinnati +250
I don't know about Syracuse +295. I like this Syracuse team, I just feel it might be a little more wishful thinking. I wasn't especially thrilled with how they played vs LV. I do think Syracuse A game is good enough to win this game. Kind of feels odd that alot of media people have been pointing to this as a potential upset for 2 weeks now, I don't like that.
Others I may like:
Colorado +235
ULM +290
Illinois +550
Virginia +215
Tennessee +185
Bowling Green +220 (if Kato Nelson out for Akron)
UCLA +155
UTEP +250
Cincinnati +250
I don't know about Syracuse +295. I like this Syracuse team, I just feel it might be a little more wishful thinking. I wasn't especially thrilled with how they played vs LV. I do think Syracuse A game is good enough to win this game. Kind of feels odd that alot of media people have been pointing to this as a potential upset for 2 weeks now, I don't like that.
booksbestfriend
On Johnny's Shitlist
I think the points are strong. Good backdoor opportunity.
TahoeLegend
Pretty much a regular
I don't see Maryland or Indiana as a ML play, but they are something to think about taking the points. In the seven years Urban has been at Ohio State they are 6-1 SU, 1-6 ATS the week before the Michigan game. During that same span Michigan is 4-3 SU, 4-3 ATS. For the three years Harbaugh has been at Michigan they are 1-2 SU, 1-2 ATS. That is not dispositive, but does indicate the both teams tend to cover ML, but Ohio State is more likely to look ahead (which may be one of the reasons Ohio State has dominated Michigan).
I see three dogs that look like possibilities on the ML but I prefer to take the points
Minnesota, 5-1 SU, 5-1 ATS at home. Problem with that is that Northwestern is 4-0 SU, 3-1 ATS on the road.
Oklahoma State (I've had a lower opinion of WV and their QB all season than the odds makers do).
Miami Ohio. I haven't seen anyone stop their passing attack yet.
Also watching Kansas State. They have had a disappointing year, but are still 4-2 SU at home, 3-3 ATS. Tech has been respectable on the road, 2-1 SU and ATS. There are two things I'm looking at. One, this is the last home game for K State, and I suspect the last home game Snyder will ever coach. Heavy rumors he will step down and he may announce it before this game. K State has been money at home for years in their final game (and money against TT) and if Snyder announces they will be sky high.
The other thing is the total--Home games for K State have gone under 5 of six games this year, TT games have gone under in 2 of 3 road games
I see three dogs that look like possibilities on the ML but I prefer to take the points
Minnesota, 5-1 SU, 5-1 ATS at home. Problem with that is that Northwestern is 4-0 SU, 3-1 ATS on the road.
Oklahoma State (I've had a lower opinion of WV and their QB all season than the odds makers do).
Miami Ohio. I haven't seen anyone stop their passing attack yet.
Also watching Kansas State. They have had a disappointing year, but are still 4-2 SU at home, 3-3 ATS. Tech has been respectable on the road, 2-1 SU and ATS. There are two things I'm looking at. One, this is the last home game for K State, and I suspect the last home game Snyder will ever coach. Heavy rumors he will step down and he may announce it before this game. K State has been money at home for years in their final game (and money against TT) and if Snyder announces they will be sky high.
The other thing is the total--Home games for K State have gone under 5 of six games this year, TT games have gone under in 2 of 3 road games
i agree. CJP has really challenged these kids to go undefeated in Nov.
Whats great is they are buying in
View from WVU homer....the offense was very inconsistent through the Iowa State game. Grier was shaky and finishing drives was a problem. A lot of the problem was coming from RG basically being a turnstile. It was affecting the passing and running games. The only thing it didn't seem to affect was the playcalling, which in my opinion was a big problem. After the Iowa State game, we came out vs. Baylor running shorter routes, bubble screens, etc to get the ball out quicker and it was very effective. This opened up the run game and enabled more deep balls to be thrown. The next key, other than an adjustment in playcalling, was finally deciding on stripping the redshirt off of the senior RG and getting his backup healthy again. Earlier they were trying to save the redshirt for the senior when the starter was injured....it was ugly.
To sum up, in the last 3 weeks the offense, the playcalling, and Grier have been much better, more consistent, and better at finishing drives. I have no opinion on the spread/ML this week but this will be an easy one for us to overlook and possibly lay an egg with the home game vs OU up next. That being said, getting Okie State off of that emotional loss in Bedlam can't help them either. Tough one to call. Our defense has been very good most of the season but the mobility of the OSU QB could give us problems, as the secondary has games where they can't seem to cover. So if we aren't getting there with pressure and they're having one of those games, OSU will score early and often. Hope the info from my view helps someone!
JROCK1966
Big Blue Nation
WMU @ Ball St.: Comparisons of previous game margins and difference in wins less than 4 between the two teams reveals some nice results / mojo for the home team tonight. SU record is 13-2-1 which is great news as the home team is a +7.5 dog. The only two times it lost was as a fav. The two dogs won in the results in pic 1. 2nd pic adds in a comparisons of the home team with a losing record and the road team with a winning record and the only time this situation has occurred in SDQL history, the home team won. See pic 2. Just sharing in case anyone had any designs on backing Ball St. tonight. There has been a precedent(s) for a home team winning a game in this situation. BOL in what you decide Gents!
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
Thanks JRock. I need a Ball St win anyhow to save my ass on a Ov RSW of 4 on them. That would be just to push. So the way they have played I may just have to ride with that and not throw good money after bad.
It is interesting that WM and Ball St each played Ohio and Toledo the last two weeks: WM was outscored 110-38 and Ball St was outscored 97-27 in those. The WM v Ohio result was especially embarrassing for them and doesn't reflect well on their coaching staff.
WM had been pretty good until their QB got hurt. Wassink could get out of trouble and make plays running plus had the experience. Seems like coaches are being really conservative with the Eleby kid now.
BSU had played some solid MAC D up until the last 2.5 games. It is probably linked to offensive failures and D put in bad positions too often. Neal is still out. Plitt played a better than I expected vs Toledo. I think Gilbert will play some tonight, appears he is in the coaches' dog house.
I do atleast have some hope BSU can do it tonight. They didn't roll over at Toledo and this is the home finale. If they were going to lay a total egg that could be next week. WM has very dim West Div life so there is something they can sell the team they have to play for.
It is interesting that WM and Ball St each played Ohio and Toledo the last two weeks: WM was outscored 110-38 and Ball St was outscored 97-27 in those. The WM v Ohio result was especially embarrassing for them and doesn't reflect well on their coaching staff.
WM had been pretty good until their QB got hurt. Wassink could get out of trouble and make plays running plus had the experience. Seems like coaches are being really conservative with the Eleby kid now.
BSU had played some solid MAC D up until the last 2.5 games. It is probably linked to offensive failures and D put in bad positions too often. Neal is still out. Plitt played a better than I expected vs Toledo. I think Gilbert will play some tonight, appears he is in the coaches' dog house.
I do atleast have some hope BSU can do it tonight. They didn't roll over at Toledo and this is the home finale. If they were going to lay a total egg that could be next week. WM has very dim West Div life so there is something they can sell the team they have to play for.
Johnnyonthespot
CTG Regular
That Buffalo line is interesting.
Bulls opened -1
Bulls opened -1
Frank Costanza
Co-Inventor of the Man's Bra
UAB That's a solid defense, feels exactly like the type game A&M may sleepwalk thru.
spooks
You Can't Make This Up
Not a dog play, but just a shitty spot for UNLV this week. They beat SDSU as 23pts dogs last Saturday, now they travel to Hawaii. Warriors are favored by a TD and next week UNLV plays Reno. I'm a UNLV alumni and from Hawaii.
- UNLV fresh off their upset win where it determined HC Sanchez job
- Just this past weekend, the weather in Vegas dropped down to 30-40 degrees
- UNLV travels to Hawaii; where it's warm and cozy
- Next UNLV plays Nevada for the Fremont Canon
- As an alumnus, UNLV can lose the entire season...JUST DONT LOSE TO RENO
More of a play against a TD dog here....
- UNLV fresh off their upset win where it determined HC Sanchez job
- Just this past weekend, the weather in Vegas dropped down to 30-40 degrees
- UNLV travels to Hawaii; where it's warm and cozy
- Next UNLV plays Nevada for the Fremont Canon
- As an alumnus, UNLV can lose the entire season...JUST DONT LOSE TO RENO
More of a play against a TD dog here....
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
What is Rodger's status?
spooks
You Can't Make This Up
Rodgers is taking snaps today with the first team, looks like he'll play on Saturday. He's dual threat, but given the last time UNLV played in Hawaii....that was a fiasco.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...ts-first-team-snaps-in-unlv-practice-1527128/
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
SMU is popular here.
They have won 3 out of 4 and their only loss in that span was in OT to 9-1 Cincinnati. Two of those wins were as TD and 2 TD underdogs. So they have proven they can surprise and exceed expectations.
In fairness, they should've lost the Tulane game had the Wave been able to convert another 3rd down or two in the 4th quarter. Tulane went 3-and-out 4x in the in 4th quarter clinging to a 2 pt lead, you could see the nervous and frustrated body language each time Tulane walked off the field for punt after punt until SMU got a 67y TD pass. Not surprisingly Banks was sacked/fumbled to end the game.
SMU had 5 sacks in that game. Then they had 3 vs Cincy, 4 vs Houston, 3 vs UConn...15 in the last 4 games after having just 8 over the first 6 games. They also have 34 TFL in that span (rank 13th nationally with 76 in 10 games).
The perception might be that SMU's D is worse than Memphis, but statistically they are actually very similar. SMU allows 431 ypg, Memphis 400 ypg, but the ypp of 5.5 is the same. SMU allows 4.4 ypc rushing, Memphis allows 4.1. SMU allows 229 passing ypg (62%), Memphis allows 231 (59%). SMU ranks 9th AAC pass eff D, Memphis ranks 8th. SMU allows 36 ppg, Memphis allows 30 ppg. SMU 23 sacks, Memphis 24. SMU allows 45% 3rd down conv, Memphis allows 40%. And if you look at 2018 vs 2017 there is actually improvement in some of the key D categories for SMU.
SMU just allowed UConn 50 pts and 580 yards....so it's still an SMU D, but the overall numbers don't indicate they are worse than your average SMU defensive unit and Memphis isn't necessarily much better.
The difference for SMU this year over last year is they haven't been able to count on their O like they did last year. They have been getting better though. SMU has improved on their total yardage and offensive ypp in each of the last 5 games. And they've been running the ball better, 4.9 ypc for 196 on Houston two weeks ago.
After experimenting with Fr QB Brown, looks like he is in the RS position now and hasn't played the last 4 weeks. I've never been a big Ben Hicks fan, but he is playing better these last 4 weeks too. 58.5% - 303 ypg - 7.95 ypa - 10-2 ratio in that last 4. The players and the coaches both are getting more comfortable with eachother and the play calling has expanded as the execution level has gone up.
Memphis is a good team, they've beat up on some bad teams, but I don't think they are quite as good as some of their scores imply. They jumped on Tulsa last week. Two weeks ago Memphis was tied 31-31 in the 3rd with ECU and it was just a 4 pt game in the 4th, a key penalty on 3rd saw Memphis go on for a TD instead of punt and Mem got a short field TD off a fumble. So in their 18 pt win, Memphis only outgained ECU 639-556. Memphis nearly beat UCF, but earlier this year lost 24-40 at Tulane and also Mem led South Alabama just 31-27 in the 3rd. This Memphis team hasn't performed so strong on the road so far, just 1-3...losing at Navy (weather), at Tulane and at Missouri. Losing at Mizzou is understandable, but they were a 7pt fav at Navy and 14 pt fav at Tulane.
Memphis hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record either. Their wins have come vs teams with a combined 15-45 and the best of that bunch is Mercer's 5-5 record.
There may be more weakness in this Memphis team than one normally expects.
It's definitely going to take something close to SMU's recent best that we've seen and Memphis is going to need some hiccups out of White (possible) or Henderson (doubtful). Other than the Missouri game when Henderson only ran 4x, his worst ypc this year is 6.29 and he's also a big play receiving threat. He's probably going to get his again....which might be fine. Noteworthy two of his three best rushing games this year have been in loses - 212 vs Navy and 199 vs UCF. So there are ways that Memphis loses games even when Henderson is going off.
SMU controls their own destiny for the AAC West. Will the moment be too much for them or can they keep the positive momentum going? They are playing their best O right now and seems possible they can pull this upset. They've already won/or covered vs 3 other teams as good as Memphis in their current run.
They have won 3 out of 4 and their only loss in that span was in OT to 9-1 Cincinnati. Two of those wins were as TD and 2 TD underdogs. So they have proven they can surprise and exceed expectations.
In fairness, they should've lost the Tulane game had the Wave been able to convert another 3rd down or two in the 4th quarter. Tulane went 3-and-out 4x in the in 4th quarter clinging to a 2 pt lead, you could see the nervous and frustrated body language each time Tulane walked off the field for punt after punt until SMU got a 67y TD pass. Not surprisingly Banks was sacked/fumbled to end the game.
SMU had 5 sacks in that game. Then they had 3 vs Cincy, 4 vs Houston, 3 vs UConn...15 in the last 4 games after having just 8 over the first 6 games. They also have 34 TFL in that span (rank 13th nationally with 76 in 10 games).
The perception might be that SMU's D is worse than Memphis, but statistically they are actually very similar. SMU allows 431 ypg, Memphis 400 ypg, but the ypp of 5.5 is the same. SMU allows 4.4 ypc rushing, Memphis allows 4.1. SMU allows 229 passing ypg (62%), Memphis allows 231 (59%). SMU ranks 9th AAC pass eff D, Memphis ranks 8th. SMU allows 36 ppg, Memphis allows 30 ppg. SMU 23 sacks, Memphis 24. SMU allows 45% 3rd down conv, Memphis allows 40%. And if you look at 2018 vs 2017 there is actually improvement in some of the key D categories for SMU.
SMU just allowed UConn 50 pts and 580 yards....so it's still an SMU D, but the overall numbers don't indicate they are worse than your average SMU defensive unit and Memphis isn't necessarily much better.
The difference for SMU this year over last year is they haven't been able to count on their O like they did last year. They have been getting better though. SMU has improved on their total yardage and offensive ypp in each of the last 5 games. And they've been running the ball better, 4.9 ypc for 196 on Houston two weeks ago.
After experimenting with Fr QB Brown, looks like he is in the RS position now and hasn't played the last 4 weeks. I've never been a big Ben Hicks fan, but he is playing better these last 4 weeks too. 58.5% - 303 ypg - 7.95 ypa - 10-2 ratio in that last 4. The players and the coaches both are getting more comfortable with eachother and the play calling has expanded as the execution level has gone up.
Memphis is a good team, they've beat up on some bad teams, but I don't think they are quite as good as some of their scores imply. They jumped on Tulsa last week. Two weeks ago Memphis was tied 31-31 in the 3rd with ECU and it was just a 4 pt game in the 4th, a key penalty on 3rd saw Memphis go on for a TD instead of punt and Mem got a short field TD off a fumble. So in their 18 pt win, Memphis only outgained ECU 639-556. Memphis nearly beat UCF, but earlier this year lost 24-40 at Tulane and also Mem led South Alabama just 31-27 in the 3rd. This Memphis team hasn't performed so strong on the road so far, just 1-3...losing at Navy (weather), at Tulane and at Missouri. Losing at Mizzou is understandable, but they were a 7pt fav at Navy and 14 pt fav at Tulane.
Memphis hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record either. Their wins have come vs teams with a combined 15-45 and the best of that bunch is Mercer's 5-5 record.
There may be more weakness in this Memphis team than one normally expects.
It's definitely going to take something close to SMU's recent best that we've seen and Memphis is going to need some hiccups out of White (possible) or Henderson (doubtful). Other than the Missouri game when Henderson only ran 4x, his worst ypc this year is 6.29 and he's also a big play receiving threat. He's probably going to get his again....which might be fine. Noteworthy two of his three best rushing games this year have been in loses - 212 vs Navy and 199 vs UCF. So there are ways that Memphis loses games even when Henderson is going off.
SMU controls their own destiny for the AAC West. Will the moment be too much for them or can they keep the positive momentum going? They are playing their best O right now and seems possible they can pull this upset. They've already won/or covered vs 3 other teams as good as Memphis in their current run.
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
Some ML dogs worth a look
Tulane - Still fighting for bowl eligibility and while some teams you can argue whether or not that matters, I would think for the Wave, it should matter a little more due to the heartbreak in their finale last year. They beat Houston last time they played and have shown the ability to play with Wake, UAB, Memphis, and USF type teams. Not sure whether Houston is a notch up from those or not but they haven't been the last few weeks. Ed Oliver won't be playing which hurts the houston rush defense and pass rush. They struggled stopping the Navy option attack earlier this year giving up over 500 yards. Obviously Houston has a powerful offense and will be looking to get well at home after dropping their last two. they have a lot of weapons. But there are signs pointing to Tulane being competitive in this one, and they are motivated to win. If Tulane drops this one it will be a battle of the different styles of option football in the Green Wave's finale to determine whether they bowl or not.
SMU - See s--k post. The run defense against uconn ahead of the run based Memphis club gives one pause though.
Wake Forest - Line implies Pittsburgh -14 or so at home to Wake Forest. Not sure that seems accurate to me. Wake needs either this one or at Duke next week for bowl eligibility. Obviously concerns with the injury report for Wake Forest and the deacons inconsistency when it comes to rush defense (defense in general) but there is every reason to think they compete. Offense with the backup perked up a little once the coaching staff gained some confidence at the tail end of the ncsu game. Definitely not for the faint of heart but good value.
Virginia - It hurts me to say this because GT is my adopted team (due to winning on them a lot) this year. I love what they are doing. But after a rough start in terms of win/loss results, GT has put some wins together to secure bowl eligibility. But that may lead to a sigh of relief and UVA has shown the ability to stop the run most of the year. That does not always translate vs option teams but it is a good starting point. GT is the better all around football team but with a bowl secured last week and UGA on deck the week following, I just doubt we get their normal intensity. I stand by assertion that the jackets are the second best team in the conference. I made the game around where it is currently sitting so no action for me but UVA might be worth a mild look.
UConn - Shown some life in a few recent games, at least offensively. who is ECU to be laying these kind of numbers. Would you be shocked if ECU lost? I think UConn rush defense is a little more awful than their pass defense and ECU likes to throw it a lot. Pretty big dog that could actually win here.
South Florida - I know Temple's offense has been clicking lately but if USF could ever put together back to back plays of decent execution .. err I mean a game where they execute properly, they have a similar talent level to Temple. Three weeks ago line on this one?
FSU - I don't normally throw in these kinds but since I won't be betting them but think they beat BC, I need to mention it somewhere.
UTEP - better team getting a TD = great ML value. Since I sometimes make jokes with regard to UTEP, I want to be clear that I am not joking. Better team getting a full TD. You gotta.
SDSU - That defense gives them a shot against most.
Tulane - Still fighting for bowl eligibility and while some teams you can argue whether or not that matters, I would think for the Wave, it should matter a little more due to the heartbreak in their finale last year. They beat Houston last time they played and have shown the ability to play with Wake, UAB, Memphis, and USF type teams. Not sure whether Houston is a notch up from those or not but they haven't been the last few weeks. Ed Oliver won't be playing which hurts the houston rush defense and pass rush. They struggled stopping the Navy option attack earlier this year giving up over 500 yards. Obviously Houston has a powerful offense and will be looking to get well at home after dropping their last two. they have a lot of weapons. But there are signs pointing to Tulane being competitive in this one, and they are motivated to win. If Tulane drops this one it will be a battle of the different styles of option football in the Green Wave's finale to determine whether they bowl or not.
SMU - See s--k post. The run defense against uconn ahead of the run based Memphis club gives one pause though.
Wake Forest - Line implies Pittsburgh -14 or so at home to Wake Forest. Not sure that seems accurate to me. Wake needs either this one or at Duke next week for bowl eligibility. Obviously concerns with the injury report for Wake Forest and the deacons inconsistency when it comes to rush defense (defense in general) but there is every reason to think they compete. Offense with the backup perked up a little once the coaching staff gained some confidence at the tail end of the ncsu game. Definitely not for the faint of heart but good value.
Virginia - It hurts me to say this because GT is my adopted team (due to winning on them a lot) this year. I love what they are doing. But after a rough start in terms of win/loss results, GT has put some wins together to secure bowl eligibility. But that may lead to a sigh of relief and UVA has shown the ability to stop the run most of the year. That does not always translate vs option teams but it is a good starting point. GT is the better all around football team but with a bowl secured last week and UGA on deck the week following, I just doubt we get their normal intensity. I stand by assertion that the jackets are the second best team in the conference. I made the game around where it is currently sitting so no action for me but UVA might be worth a mild look.
UConn - Shown some life in a few recent games, at least offensively. who is ECU to be laying these kind of numbers. Would you be shocked if ECU lost? I think UConn rush defense is a little more awful than their pass defense and ECU likes to throw it a lot. Pretty big dog that could actually win here.
South Florida - I know Temple's offense has been clicking lately but if USF could ever put together back to back plays of decent execution .. err I mean a game where they execute properly, they have a similar talent level to Temple. Three weeks ago line on this one?
FSU - I don't normally throw in these kinds but since I won't be betting them but think they beat BC, I need to mention it somewhere.
UTEP - better team getting a TD = great ML value. Since I sometimes make jokes with regard to UTEP, I want to be clear that I am not joking. Better team getting a full TD. You gotta.
SDSU - That defense gives them a shot against most.
Johnnyonthespot
CTG Regular
VK,
I often have thoughts too and " I need to mention it somewhere".
Thanks for everything.
I often have thoughts too and " I need to mention it somewhere".
Thanks for everything.
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
That is a good point about if we flipped the home field for line comparison. I would certainly be all over WF at +14 at Pitt.
Alot of times we have to try and decide when to buy, hold or sell a team based on the spread. It seems like Pitt is reaching the sell category. The line bounced off 7 this morning.
While we know that WF has struggled on D prior to the NCSt game...it wasn't too long ago that Pitt gave up 8 yard per play to Duke. VT D had alot of issues last week giving up 78y TD pass and 73y and 98y TD runs, but the Hokie O did have 3 empty trips inside the P25 result in zero pts (missed FG and two SOD). VT O moved it for 28 first downs...same as Duke, VT just couldn't make those turn into pts.
Pitt o-line number 1 in power success rate number 23 in stuff rate. Wake d-line number 114 in opp power success rate, number 45 in opp stuff rate.
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
It is true that before last week, WF run D was awful (Rice ran for 6.0 ypc on them!). Last week's 47y 1.74 ypc allowed to a poor running NCSt team would appear to be an anomaly.
But Pitt d-line: 125th in opp success rate 64 in opp stuff rate and Wake o-line: 51 in power success rate 14 in stuff rate.
Wake also 27 and 28 in line yds and standard down line yards, Pitt 58 and 57 in opp line yards and standard down line yards. Recently allowed Duke‘s top back to go 10 for 162.
So I think the running argument goes both ways
Wake also 27 and 28 in line yds and standard down line yards, Pitt 58 and 57 in opp line yards and standard down line yards. Recently allowed Duke‘s top back to go 10 for 162.
So I think the running argument goes both ways
Running game should help him out more
Marsski
MAC Marvel
I'm thinking about taking a stab on Syracuse ML....Cuse won SU as a dog vs Florida State and NC State this year. Gave Clemson everything they could handle in Death Valley and could have won that game...
What good offensive team has Notre Dame faced? Wake Forest (32), Va Tech (44), Mich (52), Ball St (62), Pitt (73), Stanford (75), Vandy (79), Navy (105), FSU (108), NW (109). 'Cuse is #14 and fast paced which ND hasn't really seen...
I'm smelling some fraudulence and the game is gonna be a true neutral in the Bronx.
What good offensive team has Notre Dame faced? Wake Forest (32), Va Tech (44), Mich (52), Ball St (62), Pitt (73), Stanford (75), Vandy (79), Navy (105), FSU (108), NW (109). 'Cuse is #14 and fast paced which ND hasn't really seen...
I'm smelling some fraudulence and the game is gonna be a true neutral in the Bronx.
Marsski, not sure how beating Florida State is impressive. Clemson literally didn't have a passing attack. They ultimately won thanks to a third-stringer who had never played college football before. They ran over them despite obviously being one-dimensional. Don't you think ND can do much more than that on offense with Book plus the run game? What has Cuse shown against a good defense? Against Clemson they benefited from three turnovers, only producing 311 yards (about 150 fewer than Clemson did with just a run game). Don't think NC State is in the same league on the same planet as ND (or Clemmy).
Guys I think forget Wake. Pitt also going for division, so arguably has just as motivation?
Minnesota is actually favored now otherwise that would look pretty sweet as a dog spot
Throughout the year OK State has played up or down to level of competition. Dogged at home vs WVU
Marsski
MAC Marvel
It's a factual statement: Florida State was favored by 3.5. NC State was favored by 2. Here's another fact: Under Dino Babers, Syracuse has won 6 games SU as an underdog, granted they were dogged a lot especially in 2016. (And the Cuse are 8-2 ATS in their last 10 as a dog but I know we're talking MLs here...)
Clemson has a much better running attack than ND. Your assuming Book is gonna be pin-point accurate coming off a shoulder injury? I don't know man. He better be because he doesn't really throw deep.
They scored 23 on Clemson which is more than everyone except A&M. If you wanna dickride ND, go ahead. I smell a fraud and the usual Brian Kelly choke job coming.
Ok here are two similarly meaningless trends: Irish 3-0 ats this year when opened as single-digit faves. Irish 9-0 SU when favöred so idk what usual chokejob means. But you just want to only look at whatever „facts“ support Cuse.
Shoulder injury? Book missed FSU cause his ribs. Hes practiced fully all week.
A and M lol. Maybe cause Clemson‘s SOS wasn‘t very difficult and yea 311 yards isn‘t much to write home about. But Cuse games are higher-scoring overall cause of Cuse tempo.
Ok then go „dickride“ Cuse lol. I‘m guessing you also feel at home at blankets?
Shoulder injury? Book missed FSU cause his ribs. Hes practiced fully all week.
A and M lol. Maybe cause Clemson‘s SOS wasn‘t very difficult and yea 311 yards isn‘t much to write home about. But Cuse games are higher-scoring overall cause of Cuse tempo.
Ok then go „dickride“ Cuse lol. I‘m guessing you also feel at home at blankets?
Pretty ridiculous how some people are unable to disagree without acting like an intolerable „asshole“ (his terminology). This is probably at least in part why that guy left, he couldn‘t handle the attitude against his picks. That is blankets behavior not ctg.
Marsski
MAC Marvel
I've been posting here since you were in junior high, son. You gonna run me off after being here five months?
My bad, I thought it was his shoulder. I stand corrected. He's still coming off not playing.
The past five years (under Brian Kelly), Notre Dame is 2-8 straight up on the road against ranked teams. That's a choke job.
Marsski
MAC Marvel
2017
Lost by 18 @ #20 Stanford (favored by 2)
Lost by 33 @ #7 Miami (favored by 3)
2016
Lost by 18 @ #12 USC
2015
Lost by 2 @ #13 Stanford (favored by 2)
Lost by 2 @ #12 Clemson
2014
Lost by 24 @ #11 Arizona State
Lost by 4 @ #2 Florida State
2013
Lost by 7 @ #8 Stanford
Road wins over ranked teams: Beat #24 Va Tech this year and beat #21 Temple in 2015.
This is why people think that Brian Kelly is an overrated choker.
Lost by 18 @ #20 Stanford (favored by 2)
Lost by 33 @ #7 Miami (favored by 3)
2016
Lost by 18 @ #12 USC
2015
Lost by 2 @ #13 Stanford (favored by 2)
Lost by 2 @ #12 Clemson
2014
Lost by 24 @ #11 Arizona State
Lost by 4 @ #2 Florida State
2013
Lost by 7 @ #8 Stanford
Road wins over ranked teams: Beat #24 Va Tech this year and beat #21 Temple in 2015.
This is why people think that Brian Kelly is an overrated choker.
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Goodbye to Romance College Football
I think the Syracuse O can and will give them a chance vs alot of top teams, Notre Dame included.
My leaning here is Syracuse as well, how I look at things, I would not be shocked if they won, but not many upsets actually surprise me.
The Syracuse D is where my hesitation lies. I think their DL is fairly decent, but I have worries about the back 7.
My leaning here is Syracuse as well, how I look at things, I would not be shocked if they won, but not many upsets actually surprise me.
The Syracuse D is where my hesitation lies. I think their DL is fairly decent, but I have worries about the back 7.
