Week #12 Discussion Thread

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B.A.R.

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I'll get this started for now. One note, GB is leaving Saturday for the Sunday night game. They left a few days early for the Chargers game.
 
Bill O'Brien has played the Colts more than any other team besides the Jags. And his record against them sucks. He is 0-3 L3 versus the Colts, three games in which both Darius Leonard and DeShaun Watson both played. Only one of those games saw Jacoby Brissett throw any passes, but it should be mentioned that O'Brien has never won a game his entire career versus Brissett-led offense. Going back to his time with the Pats, Brissett 4-0 versus O'Brien. Head coach Frank Reich 3-1 versus O'Brien (3-0 L3) with the one loss decided in overtime in their first career meeting in week 4 of last season.
 
austinhous said:
Bill O'Brien has played the Colts more than any other team besides the Jags. And his record against them sucks. He is 0-3 L3 versus the Colts, three games in which both Darius Leonard and DeShaun Watson both played. Only one of those games saw Jacoby Brissett throw any passes, but it should be mentioned that O'Brien has never won a game his entire career versus Brissett-led offense. Going back to his time with the Pats, Brissett 4-0 versus O'Brien. Head coach Frank Reich 3-1 versus O'Brien (3-0 L3) with the one loss decided in overtime in their first career meeting in week 4 of last season.
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Good stuff.
 
skanless13 said:
Posted in my thread, but I love GB, Balt, and esp. Dallas this week. I believe the Cowgirls have a good chance to win straight up.... and I HATE the Cowgirls.
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Three teams on the road.

Tell me about GB. Can see the others.

Worry about coaching mismatches like Dal-NE, but Richard running that def helps.
 
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Not saying this cause I'm a homer but if ever a time for the Pats to get their offense right it would be now. They are off two lack-luster offensive performances on the road. Brady basically called out himself & his offense after the Eagles game. After this weekend they are on the road in Houston which is a lose-able game, then I think KC can beat them in a couple weeks. They can't afford to wait to unfuck their offense. Granted they can't fix their line issues overnight but Brady was flat out missing targets, which is fixable.
 
Tin&Lint said:
Three teams on the road.

Tell me about GB. Can see the others.

Worry about coaching mismatches like Dal-NE, but Richard running that def helps.
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Yeah, im not crazy about taking all road teams so far but couldn't pass these up.
GB off a bye. Getting healthier. Trust Aaron more than Jimmy. Aaron will play huge in his home area. Niners defense showing cracks. Like the 4 pts.
 
Zeke said:
Not saying this cause I'm a homer but if ever a time for the Pats to get their offense right it would be now. They are off two lack-luster offensive performances on the road. Brady basically called out himself & his offense after the Eagles game. After this weekend they are on the road in Houston which is a lose-able game, then I think KC can beat them in a couple weeks. They can't afford to wait to unfuck their offense. Granted they can't fix their line issues overnight but Brady was flat out missing targets, which is fixable.
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The field has been shrunk now for Brady with no deep threat. Albeit a tight end, Gronk opened things up with his ability to outrun an LB and thus occupy a safety. The hope was that Harry would be the deep threat and he may still be but the injury slowed his development and there are concerns regarding his work ethic. And that's what got Gordon released and so there's a big flag right now regarding Harry. The last thing Brady wanted was to see Gordon released but it's Belichick's way, or the highway. Pats should have success moving the ball this weekend as the Cowboys LBs are terrible in coverage - White and Michel should have field days in the flat. But that's not going to solve the issue of chunk plays, or lack thereof. Weird seeing Antonio Brown's apology thing - wonder if that's headed anywhere. Hope not. As much as I love the Pats want nothing to do w/ that scum anymore.

Every game now for NE is big as home field throughout is everything. Ravens are great, but they're not going to beat Belichick a second time, in January, in Foxboro, in 20 degrees and snow. I just don't see the offensive issues being resolved and thus we could very well see the Pats on the road in the AFC championship.
 
VirginiaCavs said:
Travel consideration: Raiders playing 1 p.m. ET time slot at team Scarf @B.A.R.I found this heading into the year: Raiders are NFL's worst team in 1 p.m. Eastern time slot not sure what the Raiders' updated record is in this spot.... @austinhous can you help us out?
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What up brother. That stuff is probably true, but mostly as underdogs, so maybe trust the line..? Raiders beat the Colts (-6) straight up in that spot in week 4, and Gruden already took his team overseas to beat the Bears, which makes traveling across "only three time zones" seem less relevant. And if you want to include games all the way back to 2000 - like that article does - when Gruden was head coach of the Raiders in 2001 they played 5 games on the road in the eastern time zone that season and went 3-2. That's slippery-slope-shit though, at least to me anyway, considering Gruden's overall road success since he took over last season.

In my opinion, if you want a stronger reason to fade the Raiders, just look at Gruden's home/away record since he took over last year: 7-5 at home (6-1 L7), 2-10 away, 1-1 neutral site. However they are hot now, having played their last three games at home and going 3-0, but again, that's where home/away success comes into play again, so it's kind of a real crap shoot, with "crap" being the real key word here in this unlikely, non-division matchup. Cheers brother.
 
VirginiaCavs said:
@austinhous Marrone outside the 1 p.m. ET time slot this Sunday at Tennessee.
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I learned my lesson earlier this year in Denver on that one! But that is a good heads up, because a Vrabel/Marrone feels like a game that can be handicapped. Just noticed Jags are getting 3½ boy, oh boy. I might have to root with you this Sunday! Half of Vrabel's 14 wins have come by a 4-point margin or less. And he sucks at covering spreads, too. Yeah man I'd throw that Marrone time zone out the window, he 2-0 ATS in that spot so far this year, ...at least outside the eastern time zone, going to look at it further, for sure

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They're offering a +4 for 18 cents shoot I'd buy that for sure. Gonna look at the rest of the schedule because after that AFC South game last night I know the Titans got some additional situations coming up, plus they're coming off the bye week. How much impact do you think the bye will have on the Titans "righting the ship" this week? (I haven't been following closely). First thing I found: Opposing teams 11-3 to the over versus Marrone after more than 1 week of rest (8-0 home).
 
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What's the 2H o/u gonna be lined in Broncos/Bills? 20? Feels like a good under spot based on the way the teams' games have played this season.
 
VirginiaCavs said:
@austinhous Marrone outside the 1 p.m. ET time slot this Sunday at Tennessee.
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Titans are tied with the Dolphins with 42 sacks allowed. That's 4.2 sacks allowed per game, tied for worst in sacks allowed, and actual worst in adjusted sack rate (12.2%). Meanwhile, Jags' D-line rank top-7 in each of: adjusted sack rate, team pass rush win rate, sacks per pass attempt, total sacks. The Jags' run defense though. Really feels overdue for a bounce-back after allowing both Mack and Williams go off for 100+ yards on the ground last week, don't you think?
 
A casino guy , on VSIN, said they have no tickets on the Redskins. All tickets are on the Lions.
Another casino reported an 11K bet on the Leos.
The under has most of the tickets.

I'm on O40.
 
Zeke said:
Not saying this cause I'm a homer but if ever a time for the Pats to get their offense right it would be now. They are off two lack-luster offensive performances on the road. Brady basically called out himself & his offense after the Eagles game. After this weekend they are on the road in Houston which is a lose-able game, then I think KC can beat them in a couple weeks. They can't afford to wait to unfuck their offense. Granted they can't fix their line issues overnight but Brady was flat out missing targets, which is fixable.
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getting Wynn back is gonna help
 
austinhous said:
Titans are tied with the Dolphins with 42 sacks allowed. That's 4.2 sacks allowed per game, tied for worst in sacks allowed, and actual worst in adjusted sack rate (12.2%). Meanwhile, Jags' D-line rank top-7 in each of: adjusted sack rate, team pass rush win rate, sacks per pass attempt, total sacks. The Jags' run defense though. Really feels overdue for a bounce-back after allowing both Mack and Williams go off for 100+ yards on the ground last week, don't you think?
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yea curious to see if Arthur Smith sticks with Henry and just pound pound the ball. and sets up short play Action routes
If Titans fall behind , Jax will eat that O Line up.
This game points to the under
unless you foresee a few Def TDs which is very possible from BOTH D's

saying that, this game probably sails Over
 
After Pats play Cowboys today, they will have faced every NFC East team. What's that about? They have already played games versus the Redskins, Giants, and Eagles - and shut all three of them out in the second half!
 
ProV1Colt said:
yea curious to see if Arthur Smith sticks with Henry and just pound pound the ball. and sets up short play Action routes
If Titans fall behind , Jax will eat that O Line up.
This game points to the under
unless you foresee a few Def TDs which is very possible from BOTH D's

saying that, this game probably sails Over
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I have my line at the under, slightly. Not a large margin.
I'm on the Tits ,tho.
 
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