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Welcome to Wednesday Hoops with Handy!! Well last night was a rather quite night for me. I did play the Pacers +11.5 and just scraped by. I'm pretty sure Rick Carlisle was pissed at Houston for calling a time out with 27 seconds to go when the Pacers trapped them in the back court and that's why Indy bothered to foul. Other than that I have no idea why they wasted their time but they did. The other game I wanted to bet but didn't have the balls to was the Bobcats. Very few NBA teams should be laying 7 points on the road. The Cavs aren't one of them. Cleveland has been playing well but winning on the road is hard enough and when you're riding a long winning streak you can rest assure you're going to be getting your opponents best shot every game.

As for today the card looks grim. I have nothing in mind as far as a solid point spread play is concerned.

Miami at Atlanta- The books are hanging a rather large number on Miami on the road. It's up to 5. Miami has no back up point guard tonight as Payton is out. The Heat have been a hot team but judging by the numbers the books have set with this team they simply don't think they're as good as they've been playing. Perhaps they're right. I believe the Heat win but covering the game is another question which I have no opinion. I would simply say buyer beware.

Orlando at Toronto - If there is one game on the card which I sort of think you can take the points and have a real shot it's this one. I just believe the Orlando Magic are more than capable of playing with the Raptors. That's not to say they will and I certainly wouldn't feel confident taking the points definately thinking it's going to be a competitive game. However, any time you have a monster named Dwight Howard patrolling the paint there is always the possibility for an upset. This guy is a monster and he should be able to dominate on the inside. I know one thing I wouldn't lay 6 points in this game with your money.

Charlotte at Boston - Hmmm. 7 points on Boston tonight. All I know is I would be very careful betting the Celtics tonight. This is a game which they wouldn't mind losing. They need to secure the second seed in the draft lottery and losing this game would go a long way to securing that position. Doc Rivers has mentioned that he will be trying different combinations to see what the Celtics young prospects can offer. In other words we're looking to tank the games without saying so. I'm tempted just a little to take the points in this game. Certainly a game time decision.

Dallas at Cleveland - All right this game is impossible to feel confident betting. My sharp eye tells me to take the points but my gut tells me don't go near this game. Dallas can beat anyone anywhere at anytime. Yes, Cleveland has been money at home especially as a dog but Dallas flat out scares the shit out of me when ever I bet against them. Say what you want the public is betting Dallas. Can you blame them? They would bet Dallas if the line was 5. The books no doubt will have a big bet going tonight on Cleveland and I'm sure they're not unhappy about that. Cleveland had just won 9 games in a row and they're getting points at home. That's an easy way to flip it but think about that for a minute before you drop your April 2007 electric bill on the Mavs.

Indiana at San Antonio - All right I bought the Spurs at -13 the moment Jermaine reinjured his knee. I'm going for a middling opportunity in this game. I've already read in the Indianapolis Star that O'Neal is very doubtful for tonight. I'm guessing the line jumps to 16. I have no opinion on a spread like that but if you can get your hands on a thirteen buy it early and then buy the other side later on.

Washington at Seattle - Not sure why everyone is lining up to play the Wizards tonight? This is a fools bet. Washington couldn't beat a depleted Trailblazers team last night and now they're going to beat Seattle. Nah, I doubt it. Seattle is a bad matchup for them on the road. Both teams just run and gun and I would only take the home team. Wizards are just a public fools bet. Perhaps they win, cover, make you rich and you can uproot your family and move to the Bahamas and sip pina coladas all day. I doubt it. BUYER BEWARE

Minnesota at Sacramento - OK. Let me guess you think +6.5 is a gift from vegas? Three games four days for the T-Wolves. Have fun betting this garbarge team. No, I wouldn't bet the Kings either but the Wolves been destroyed on this road trip. If there is one game on this trip which might be worth a look is taking the Wolves plus the points at Seattle on Friday. That's a big maybe but this team is a bad bet night in and night out.

I can tell you this about college hoops tonight. Pinnacle sports opened Syracuse as a 3 pt. favorite. Yes, that info is true. I saw it with my own eye. The line has been move 6.5 points as Clemson is now a 3.5 and in some places a 4 pt. favorite. All the consensus reports show Syracuse action and little on Clemson. There is no doubt in my mind that there is heavy and I mean heavy sharp action on Clemson tonight.

Air Force opened at a pick em and now sits 6.5/7 vs. Depaul. Same situation as the Clemson game. I know I wouldn't put my money against Air Force at home since they're 15-1 on their home floor. That's a tough bet to make knowing that the number opened at a pick and the wise guys have hammered this game. I would expect a buy back of some sorts as the game nears tip off.

I can't wait to bet UNLV to beat Oregon Friday night.

I'm also on Tennessee to beat Ohio State.

The rest of the games I have little interest in. I was going to pound USC but the more I think about it the more I believe it's not a good bet.

Good luck and as always life is dandy being a capper named Handy!!
 
One note is I think the Cuse line was an error. There is no way they could have been favored in Clemson. I really didnt research this though. However I as well did see Pinny open the Cuse as 3 pt favs. Again it had to be a mistake . Its not movement but a corrected error.

Look into it
 
I don't know where you saw Air Force opened as a pick 'em, either. That was also a mistake, if PInny did that as well.

The line opened 6.5 or so pretty much everywhere. There has been little to no movement in either game.

GL tonight...
 
Air Force opened at Pk on pinny...and that was absolutely a mistake.

Did the LVSC open Air Force -6.5 or -8?
 
I like dallas in this game, although all the momentum points to cleveland. So i may just stay away from this game altogether or play for just a small amount.

BOL tonight handy.
 
They did open there for sure I witnessed itself. The problem is they were simply errors...The Clemson line wnet from +2.5 to -3.5 in 1 move.....games dont move 6 pts in 1 move....just trying to land a hand...dont see any special movements these books are all competing to get there line out first and some times mistakes happen. GL
 
Handy,
great insight as always and I am glad you are back doing your daily fix. It is very informational. Thanks
 
sportsnut,

Both lines didn't move on one hit. I have the detailed line movement history on both games and that's not what happened.
 
handy said:
sportsnut,

Both lines didn't move on one hit. I have the detailed line movement history on both games and that's not what happened.
Click to expand...


They were bad lines . What did it move @ Pinny +3 to +2.5 to -3.5....You can ask any sports director if he felt those were bad openers and I would be shocked if one disagreed with me. I am just trying to say they reason they were moved is cause they were bad. If there was SHARP action is cause both lines were about 6 points off.

So if you have the detailed line movement beyond it going from +3 then to +2.5 then -3.5 please show me. All I am saying is that is was a bad line..no one in the gambling world seemed to offer it any different. Pinnacle also had the lines out before the NIT games were officially over. I was probably looking at the same time you were. Just trying to help get to the bottom of the situation...
 
Also the fact that Pinny doesnt do US business anymore makes it even more likely the errors would go unnoticed longer. Simply cause there is limited access to the books . The games ended it would would have been the middle of the nite in Europe and lets be honest do we think European bettors are focusing on the NIT??

Once someone noticed the lines they moved quickly IMO..
 
<TABLE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 10px"><TBODY><TR><TD>Pinnacle
<TABLE class=Grid id=gridLineMoves borderColor=#000066 cellSpacing=2 rules=all border=1><TBODY><TR class=HeadOrangeTop><TD class=GridHeaderTop align=middle> </TD><TD class=GridHeaderTop align=middle> </TD><TD class=GridHeaderTop align=middle> </TD><TD class=GridHeaderTop align=middle> </TD><TD class=GridHeaderTop align=middle colSpan=4>Market Avg</TD></TR><TR class=HeadOrangeTop><TH scope=col>Time </TH><TH scope=col>Favorite </TH><TH scope=col>O/U </TH><TH scope=col>Line </TH><TH scope=col>Spread% </TH><TH scope=col>Money% </TH><TH scope=col>Parlay% </TH><TH scope=col>Market Over% </TH></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 4:52:49 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-104 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 42% </TD><TD> 35% </TD><TD> 79% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 2:55:26 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-107 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 45% </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 78% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 2:43:28 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5o-109 </TD><TD> -3.5-107 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 44% </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 78% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 2:24:23 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-110 </TD><TD> -3.5-107 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> 43% </TD><TD> 34% </TD><TD> 80% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:38:41 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-107 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> 7% </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 82% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:37:39 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-109 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> 7% </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 82% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:23:05 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-102 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> 6% </TD><TD> 32% </TD><TD> 86% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:21:31 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5 105 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 4% </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 86% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:21:11 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5 105 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 4% </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 86% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:20:09 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5 106 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 4% </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 86% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:19:06 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5 104 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 4% </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 86% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:07:00 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-103 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 86% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:04:35 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-101 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 33% </TD><TD> 86% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 12:52:07 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 141.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-108 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 34% </TD><TD> 84% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 12:51:24 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-118 </TD><TD> -3.5-108 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 34% </TD><TD> 84% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 12:17:51 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-112 </TD><TD> -3.5-108 </TD><TD> 34% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 34% </TD><TD> 89% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 11:16:30 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-108 </TD><TD> 30% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 34% </TD><TD> 93% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 11:15:28 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-108 </TD><TD> 30% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 34% </TD><TD> 93% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 9:34:23 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-101 </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 32% </TD><TD> 90% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 8:40:33 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-101 </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 32% </TD><TD> 91% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 1:49:27 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-106 </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 29% </TD><TD> 87% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 12:31:38 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-110 </TD><TD> 29% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> 91% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 12:16:04 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-110 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 25% </TD><TD> 91% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/21/2007 12:15:01 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -4-105 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 25% </TD><TD> 91% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:53:13 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-108 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 88% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:52:31 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-109 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 88% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:52:11 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-109 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> 88% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 10:47:51 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-102 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 32% </TD><TD> 83% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 10:47:08 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 32% </TD><TD> 83% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 10:00:56 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-110 </TD><TD> 25% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> 99% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 8:49:50 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -4 100 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> 99% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 8:49:08 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -4 102 </TD><TD> 26% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> 99% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 8:14:18 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -4-105 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> 99% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 8:12:32 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -4 102 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> 99% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 8:12:12 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -4-105 </TD><TD> 27% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> 99% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 8:07:58 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-112 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 31% </TD><TD> 99% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 6:09:04 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 38% </TD><TD> 97% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 5:53:47 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142.5u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 39% </TD><TD> 97% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 5:53:27 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 143u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> 28% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> 39% </TD><TD> 97% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 2:13:35 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 143u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-104 </TD><TD> 25% </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 1:17:00 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 143u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 12:55:54 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142o-114 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 12:54:10 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 142u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 12:53:50 PM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 143u-114 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:43:34 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 143u-105 </TD><TD> -3.5-105 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:42:52 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 143u-105 </TD><TD> -3-112 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:42:32 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> 143u-105 </TD><TD> -3-105 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:41:50 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2-112 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:20:08 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2-105 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:18:46 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -1.5-105 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:15:39 AM </TD><TD> Clemson </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -0 100 </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:09:47 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2.5 119 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:09:27 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2.5 112 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:08:45 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2.5 105 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 11:08:25 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2.5-102 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 10:59:06 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2.5-109 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 10:58:04 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2.5-116 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 10:21:01 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -2.5-109 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 7:39:52 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -3-105 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/20/2007 7:38:50 AM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -3-102 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/19/2007 11:57:12 PM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -3-108 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/19/2007 11:18:02 PM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -3-103 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/19/2007 11:13:12 PM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> 150u-106 </TD><TD> -3-103 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/19/2007 10:48:30 PM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> 150u-105 </TD><TD> -3-105 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR><TR><TD>3/19/2007 10:37:09 PM </TD><TD> Syracuse </TD><TD> </TD><TD> -3-105 </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD><TD> n/a </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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That's your detailed line movement history direct from sportsinsights. You can see the line didn't just move 6.5 points at one time.
 
handy said:
That's your detailed line movement history direct from sportsinsights. You can see the line didn't just move 6.5 points at one time.
Click to expand...


It moved all at one time span though. So it went +3 to PK in a blink and then off it further...if Pinny honored the line of course it was sharp money it was a bd line. You can do what you want but like I said the point is no other book opened at this number. The only book that did has little US action where the game is being played. I just dont want you to make a decision based on what I deem a correct info. I like Clemson at -3.5 anyway regardless of what they did. I simply see it as a bad opener and thats the problem with trusting online books for openers. They have ther own set of linesmakers who are looking to draw action before Vegas gets it. The fact the opened the game before the AF and DePaul game went final tells me they were loking for a head start.


:shake:
How many people in outside of the US look at the NIT you think...
 
in 12 minutes it moved 4.5 points that's not odd?? I am by no means trying to argue with you or anyone just if anyone is ggoing to act on info I would rather know its correct and if I disagreed that I spoke up. If I am wrong so be it cause I am honestly not trying to be right here just certain...BOL bro..
 
Sportsnut,

Actually whenever I see sharp money moves this is a constant theme. Look at the total on the game. It opened at 150 and in no time is was hammered down 8 pts. I don't believe it was an error. I think it's just a real sharp bet on Clemson and the under. There is no way to know for sure but sportsinsights is a very reliable site.
 
I just took a look at the detailed line history for the other books which they post numbers for and the reason this number opened up at Clem -3.5 is that no other book opened this line early. Pinny was the only book which offered this line on 3/19.

I truly believe it's heavy and I mean heavy sharp action tonight on Clemson/under and Air Force under (However, I have no idea what the sharp number is on Air Force) I'm expecting this line to suffer a buy back as game time approaches. We shall see.
 
I agree Handy. No one opened the games doesnt that seem odd?? Not one other book went near till the game was finally corrected to -3.5 . Some minutes after the moves happened finally opened...strange ...I would bet some other books didnt want to put the lineout to allow a middle. Also look at like this Clemson all season was home dogs twice . UNC +4 and Duke +1 is Cuse in that class? Cuse as road chalk only @ USF , STJohns, Rutgers and Canisus. Who i s going to be road chalk in the NIT.

I dont disagree its sharp action but only cause Pinnacle fucked up and had the line 6 points off. So it wasnt true sharp action in the spirit your taking it as. If you expect a line to be -3 and its +3 of course you gonna pound it.

Believe what you want I am very confident look at the season lines that Clemson being only +4 to North Carolina would never be +3 to Syracuse. i was watching those lines and wishing I had Apinny account to play +3 ...
 
Jeter and ARod going at it.......Love It!! Can't lose with either!! Clemson looks like they are gonna cruise home and the under is trending 20 below.
 
Ugh, Split the Clemson Syracuse game. Had Clemson-3.5 and under 141.5.

Oh well, better than 0-2.
 
i am a huge ohio state fan but i also believe tennessee will beat ohio state. Oregon has been looking pretty strong is these past couple weeks, so i will have trouble laying down money against them. BOL on the pick though.
 
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