Wednesday Discussion Thread

Now cards are favs with fedde vs Keller? I’m sorry but Sonny gray clearly isn’t skenes but he a damn site more likely to pitch with him than Fedde discount ass is likely to out duel Keller!
 
hell of a pitching matchup to finish the series in Detroit. I have to look more at Flaherty cause he has times he suxjs. That said if we get the good Flaherty that a heck of a price! The thing I can say I won’t like is tigers last year were way to hell bent platooning their guys instead of let their best lefties hit vs Everyone!! I never understood this strategy of not letting lefties swing vs lefties, how we know if they can hit them if they don’t get the chances? I never recalled Barry bonds sitting cause a lhp was on the mound! Pretty sure Stan the man woulda had a stroke had his manager cane into tell him he taking day off cause a fucking lefty pitching!!! Cmon tigers, let your stud lefties hit against lhp! I don’t even care if they get out and certain guys are meant to platoon but ya’ll
Have some uber talented lefties you never given a chance!! You don’t take right handers out of lineup!
 
Wanna cap games but I’m so tired. Have to do laundry and gonna see Theresa most the afternoon so I gonna get capping done sometime. Think I’ll sleep a bit then make coffee around 4-5 and get to work.
 
Freezing again tonight wtf... might be a historic yr all around,especially when the weather gets around in the east coast..these balls are juiced and there's torpedo bats
 
2daBank said:
Pirates 1st to 3 runs +120
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I have mixed feelings on this one. The premise is absolutely strong, the fact pirates now dogs in this range is comical compared to skenes laying so much to Sonny gray. Think I mentioned this last night falling asleep, Sonny gray matching skenes for 5 innings or so (or more) isn’t exactly shocking, cards getting 5 off skenes was pretty surprising I suppose. That all said Keller is better than Fedde, im not saying Keller is skenes but imo he closer than what Fedde is to gray,

Now with that all said Fedde is perfectly capable of shitting on pirates lineup. Keller is an incredibly inconsistent pain in the ass at times. I don’t love this bet so much az I just feel it the right play to make over time the team getting +120 pitcher will win this race more than 50% the time imo. If Keller can get thru the 1st inning I’ll love this play a lot more! Hence why you won’t see a 1sy inning prop here! He worries me early as this stupid staff has taught him to pitch to contact so ya gotta worry balls fined holes, I really believe Keller woulda been a much bigger name had he got away from Pitt.

Fedde is what he is, one these guys who go to Japan/korea/wherever and actually learn to pitch. Or in cardinals terms cheap labor that can keep them competitive vs the other trash lineups in the nl central!!! He will do that for sure, cept when cubs crush him in some warm Wrigley weather!!!! I’d play ff under here but 3.5 and 2 pitchers I don’t totally trust? No thanks, could easily be 2-2 or 3-1. Anyways like i said this purely bout price more than opinion on how either pitcher does.
 
Botanical said:
Soto hits his 1st home run today...
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Hopefully not in 1sy inning! Although these under 2.5 h,r,e can sustain a solo shot long as no other hit or error!!! Hoping the fact both these pitchers have avoided seeing these lineups yet will get me a trip around lineup before we see fireworks. What you think?
 
Botanical said:
Detroit a scary team for having a pitching roster...what the redsox are lacking
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Other than @B.A.R. Or any other “real” fan I been all bout tigers since before asb last year. Them and kc are gonna be a hell a race imo. If Beaz actually hits, (can that actually last?), maybe worst position player contract ever!! He hits anywhere close to even .280 w some pop and tigers super legit!

Out wit the old, twins always hurt, stupid manager, never had the window, cle I think has just lost to many starting pitchers I know that create new once but that eventually runs out and not sure I but Williams and some other pitchers they need to have big years.
 
I got destroyed last night. The fact that the first play you lock in is the only one that wins is a testament to going with your first gut instinct. Anything else after is moderately forced most of the time. Bankroll management and discipline are king in baseball, and I still have to remind myself of that from time to time.
 
peelpub94 said:
I got destroyed last night. The fact that the first play you lock in is the only one that wins is a testament to going with your first gut instinct. Anything else after is moderately forced most of the time. Bankroll management and discipline are king in baseball, and I still have to remind myself of that from time to time.
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You will have to remind yourself, I’ve had to actually punish myself, it’s like the movie never ending story, not the movie itself just the name!! One time when I was back into the normal work force busting my ass to save Pennies I went to casino and lost like 2800, at that time it was lot for me (crazy how money means nothing, I’ve had times I’d find 5-10k rack in my boxer drawer I forgot bout! Lol, anyways all way home I was so sick w myself, I didn’t care when I dropped 5-10k of other money, it annoyed me but didn’t care, when it was all I had been working for it was lot different!! Anyways I figured out I couldn’t smoke for I forget now, 230ish days to make up the money so I quit smoking cigs for exactly that long!! Everyone acted like I was a fool for going back to smoking that day, shit I couldn’t wait for that cig!! Lol

I cost myself a little late but the overs in sac town before gm then hitting that shit live several times got late not bad plays back. Really if fucking o’s/snakes go over I have a monster! I still don’t understand how o’s made that out instead of tying it at 4???? I saw highlights 3x super high half asleep! Ultimately Kelly found himself after an inning it appeared so I prob deserved to lose but at same time I feel like it took some shananagans!!
 
Milw pulled my guy Freddy p at 6k’s. Hit his under runs allowed. Pissed I had to play the Ff under when I just wanted Rox Ff tt under but got milw -.5 also I believe. Freddy p a beast Early in seasons, I think that 1sk k prop he didn’t cash and he was only at 80 pitches or so when he left.
 
2daBank said:
You will have to remind yourself, I’ve had to actually punish myself, it’s like the movie never ending story, not the movie itself just the name!! One time when I was back into the normal work force busting my ass to save Pennies I went to casino and lost like 2800, at that time it was lot for me (crazy how money means nothing, I’ve had times I’d find 5-10k rack in my boxer drawer I forgot bout! Lol, anyways all way home I was so sick w myself, I didn’t care when I dropped 5-10k of other money, it annoyed me but didn’t care, when it was all I had been working for it was lot different!! Anyways I figured out I couldn’t smoke for I forget now, 230ish days to make up the money so I quit smoking cigs for exactly that long!! Everyone acted like I was a fool for going back to smoking that day, shit I couldn’t wait for that cig!! Lol

I cost myself a little late but the overs in sac town before gm then hitting that shit live several times got late not bad plays back. Really if fucking o’s/snakes go over I have a monster! I still don’t understand how o’s made that out instead of tying it at 4???? I saw highlights 3x super high half asleep! Ultimately Kelly found himself after an inning it appeared so I prob deserved to lose but at same time I feel like it took some shananagans!!
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Sounds like you missed ump show in AZ last night:

  1. Incident 1: HP ump misses some calls, followed by a controversial no-swing call. Lovullo comes out to make a pitching change, 1B ump Laz Diaz thinks he's coming out to argue the checked swing and yells at him, the resulting argument leads to Lovullo and pitcher Merrill Kelly (who was being removed) getting ejected

  2. Incident 2: Bases loaded, 1 out. Jackson Holliday hits a fly ball which is fielded. Ump never signals if it's a catch/out. OFer throws the ball away. Mullins tags and scores. O'Neill takes 3B without tagging. DBacks appeal at 2B and O'Neill is called out even though the umps never signalled if the fly ball was caught or trapped
 
peelpub94 said:
Sounds like you missed ump show in AZ last night:

  1. Incident 1: HP ump misses some calls, followed by a controversial no-swing call. Lovullo comes out to make a pitching change, 1B ump Laz Diaz thinks he's coming out to argue the checked swing and yells at him, the resulting argument leads to Lovullo and pitcher Merrill Kelly (who was being removed) getting ejected

  2. Incident 2: Bases loaded, 1 out. Jackson Holliday hits a fly ball which is fielded. Ump never signals if it's a catch/out. OFer throws the ball away. Mullins tags and scores. O'Neill takes 3B without tagging. DBacks appeal at 2B and O'Neill is called out even though the umps never signalled if the fly ball was caught or trapped
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So should have it been tied? Like I said Kelly was better than i expected after he settled in. Morton 5 damn walks but limited runs, wtf? I really don’t wanna hear with competent officials I woulda got over so not gonna examine! More interesting to me is who did Morton pitch around and who he attack? When kelly struggled out the gates thought I made right move for at least one more start but it appears he was fantastic after 1st inning.
 
Is this the 1st day game in sac town? I’d think to early for shadows early anyways. Some suspect ass pitchers!! I’ve bet bido a few times going back to last year, he has some stuff. I like bido k number at 3.5 but it hard to pay the juice against a pads team not striking out!
 
I might be making a mistake here and some of this depends what tigers do, are they gonna continue platooning out a couple their best hitters cause they lefties? It’s not seeking seeing how they striking out close to 30% the time vs lhp anyways. Let the lefties hit, it like I said yesterday, would they sit Soto vs lefties?!?! How funny would it be if we went back in time and still had the current morons running the cards and see them tell Stan the man he wasn’t playing cause a lefty was pitching!!! That woulda been worth price of them running team into ground!! But that what tigers been doing w carpenter since he came on scene. Me abs @B.A.R. Talked bout this last year. Now as a tigers fan (yes I’ve got 1st time in my life claiming a new mlb team!! lol) I want them to do this but not sure early start in cold weather vs max fried the time to do it???? No matter what they do I’ll prob lose another plus money k prop
By half a punch out! Think I have lost 5 or so plus Money k pros by 1 k!!

Fried ov 6.5 k’s +125
 
Fried ov 1 5 er -115

Im all over w this gane but im looking at this like a tigers ff Tt under and I believe they can get a walk or 2, steal a base. Get a run, then I think in 5 innings I can get another gap shot w a man on base. 2 runs at -115 is a Must for me.
 
Win4L said:
Carlos Zambrano?
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Who that fat guy that was around firever and played for ton of teams. Got suspended for juice eventually in his 40s probably. It was hilarious when he got ahold of one! God I can’t think his name and don’t have time today? Someone will
Know who it is!
 
2daBank said:
Fried ov 1 5 er -115

Im all over w this gane but im looking at this like a tigers ff Tt under and I believe they can get a walk or 2, steal a base. Get a run, then I think in 5 innings I can get another gap shot w a man on base. 2 runs at -115 is a Must for me.
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Tigerd Ff tt ovsr obviously. Really rushed as my brother picking me up to see thereda at launch!
 
I really like that 1st inning under 2.5 h,r,e in meadowlands. I like that much better than the cards/pirates
 
Contreras hitting 2nd cause in typical cards fashion the bum they overpay gets to be a black hole at top the lineup! Fowler, this clown. Wonder how much goldy making on prob 1-2 year deal to rake for yanks? Another happy dude to be getting away from once the Mecca of baseball! I know it prob like 10-13 mil maybe w option while Contreras collects his money, prob plays lot of poker with yadi and thanks him for the payday!!
 
2daBank said:
Could we actually get a over in San Fran?
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Hasn't that park been massive for overs the last two seasons? Pretty sure that's been the thing. Doesn't count if it's the Reds but just in general going forward.
 
peelpub94 said:
I got destroyed last night. The fact that the first play you lock in is the only one that wins is a testament to going with your first gut instinct. Anything else after is moderately forced most of the time. Bankroll management and discipline are king in baseball, and I still have to remind myself of that from time to time.
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That makes 2 of us. Horrible night.
 
Staying with Det and Oak gms over. why even think about it till it loses.

Det has given up only 11 runs in this 5 game homestand.
 
2daBank said:
Who that fat guy that was around firever and played for ton of teams. Got suspended for juice eventually in his 40s probably. It was hilarious when he got ahold of one! God I can’t think his name and don’t have time today? Someone will
Kno
Marsski said:
Colon
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You could visually see Colon’s face and skull getting bigger every year from all the GH 😂
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Great stuff guys.

Very under the weather today sorry no Tigers thoughts.

Bank, he's looking into the F5 issue at BOL.

Go Tigers.

One note when looking at Tigers lineups - their goal this month is defense first and to win low scoring games.
 
2daBank said:
100 points to mars! Are the reds ever
Gonna score?
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I don’t know what’s been going on honestly as I’ve been going to bed rather than watching this SF series. Trying not to overreact by Steer and McLain have been trash and they need those guys to hit around EDLC.
 
Marsski said:
I don’t know what’s been going on honestly as I’ve been going to bed rather than watching this SF series. Trying not to overreact by Steer and McLain have been trash and they need those guys to hit around EDLC.
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Do the miss the kid they traded for singer? India? I always liked him and seemed like clue kinda guy. I think they had to make the trade, bringing on singer could make this a top line rotation! He could teach the young kids a lot! They need to hit tho!! I had them Ff last night thinkimg will ever get 1 actosss?!!? lol
 
It not exactly a pitchers duel in San Fran but I don’t even know who that journeyman bum was they barely hit last night!! Feel like giants park tends to play smaller in day, right? They saw JV once. No clue what he has looked like?? Anyone seen jv or capped his numbers so far?
 
Cards/pit 1st un 2.5 h,r,e another piece of cake! Can’t bekueve I was bitching I put a little on that one. Then the one I decided I liked more lose. Lol
 
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