Wednesday Discussion/Thoughts

[reNew Orleans]

<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td colspan="7" class="blk-title">MLB Baseball - Wed 6/27</td> </tr> <tr class="wht-title" bgcolor="#16177c"> <td colspan="3">Game</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Run Line</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Money Line</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Total Runs</td> <td>More </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">951</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Houston Astros
W. Williams</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -151 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+146 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 -108 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 11:05 AM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">952</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Milwaukee Brewers
J. Suppan</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +141 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-154 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -102 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">953</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Colorado Rockies
J. Hirsh</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+164 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 11:20 AM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">954</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Chicago Cubs
C. Zambrano</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-172 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">955</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">San Diego Padres
G. Maddux</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -196 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+107 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 8 +100 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 12:35 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">956</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">San Francisco Giants
M. Cain</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +181 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-115 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 8 -110 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">957</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Pittsburgh Pirates
J. Van Benschoten</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -137 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+162 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 +110 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">958</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Florida Marlins
S. Mitre</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +127 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-170 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -120 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">959</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Cincinnati Reds
A. Harang</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -155 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+132 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 +106 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">960</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Philadelphia Phillies
J. Moyer</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +145 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-140 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -116 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">961</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">St Louis Cardinals
AN. Reyes</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Offline </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Offline </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Offline </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:10 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">962</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">New York Mets
T. Glavine</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Offline </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Offline </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Offline </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">963</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Washington Nationals
M. Bowie</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -105 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+200 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 8.5 +121 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:35 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">964</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Atlanta Braves
J. Smoltz</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 -105 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-218 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 8.5 -131 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">965</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Los Angeles Dodgers
D. Lowe</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -191 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+117 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 7.5 +111 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 06:40 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">966</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Arizona D-Backs
B. Webb</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +178 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-125 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 7.5 -121 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">967</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Texas Rangers
K. Millwood</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -116 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+185 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 -105 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 10:05 AM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">968</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Detroit Tigers
K. Rogers</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +106 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-201 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -105 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">969</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Kansas City Royals
J. De La Rosa</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -101 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+214 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9 -105 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 12:35 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">970</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">LAA Angels
JER. Weaver</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 -109 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-232 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9 -105 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">971</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Boston Red Sox
D. Matsuzaka</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 -115 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-178 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9 -114 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 01:35 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">972</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Seattle Mariners
R Feierabend</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 +105 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+170 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9 +104 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">973</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">New York Yankees
R. Clemens</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +121 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-125 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 8.5 -107 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">974</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Baltimore Orioles
E. Bedard</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -131 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+117 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 8.5 -103 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">975</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Oakland Athletics
L. Dinardo</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -135 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+158 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9 -109 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">976</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Cleveland Indians
F. Carmona</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +125 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-166 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9 -101 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">977</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Chicago White Sox
M. Buehrle</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -221 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-115 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 +106 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:10 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">978</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Tampa Bay Devil Rays
A. Sonnanstine</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +201 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+107 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -116 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Wed 6/27</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">979</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Toronto Blue Jays
J. Towers</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -159 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+127 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 -103 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 05:10 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">980</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Minnesota Twins
B. Bonser</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +149 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-135 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -107 </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table bordercolor="#cccccc" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#ff0000"><td colspan="3" class="sports-label">Wednesday, Jun 27</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb"> American League </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Time</td> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Game</td> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Starters</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">1:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Texas at Detroit
Home Plate Umpire: Larry Poncino</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Kevin Millwood
Kenny Rogers
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">3:35 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Kansas City at LA Angels
Home Plate Umpire: Hunter Wendelstedt</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Jorge De La Rosa
Jered Weaver
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">4:35 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Boston at Seattle
Home Plate Umpire: Brian Knight</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Daisuke Matsuzaka
Ryan Feierabend
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> NY Yankees at Baltimore
Home Plate Umpire: N/A</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Roger Clemens
Erik Bedard
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Oakland at Cleveland
Home Plate Umpire: Gerry Davis</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Lenny DiNardo
Fausto Carmona
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:10 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Chi. White Sox at Tampa Bay
Home Plate Umpire: Marvin Hudson</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Mark Buehrle
Andy Sonnanstine
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">8:10 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Toronto at Minnesota
Home Plate Umpire: Brian Runge</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Josh Towers
Boof Bonser
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb"> National League </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Time</td> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Game</td> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Starters</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">2:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Houston at Milwaukee
Home Plate Umpire: Lazaro Diaz</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Woody Williams
Jeff Suppan
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">2:20 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Colorado at Chi. Cubs
Home Plate Umpire: Dan Iassogna</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Jason Hirsh
Carlos Zambrano
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">3:35 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> San Diego at San Francisco
Home Plate Umpire: Alfonso Marquez</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Greg Maddux
Matt Cain
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Home Plate Umpire: N/A</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Aaron Harang
Jamie Moyer
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Pittsburgh at Florida
Home Plate Umpire: N/A</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> John Van Benschoten
Sergio Mitre
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:10 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> St. Louis at NY Mets
Home Plate Umpire: Mark Carlson</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Anthony Reyes
Tom Glavine
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:35 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Washington at Atlanta
Home Plate Umpire: Tim McClelland</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Micah Bowie
John Smoltz
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">9:40 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> LA Dodgers at Arizona
Home Plate Umpire: Doug Eddings</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Derek Lowe
Brandon Webb
Bullpen Availability</td></tr></tbody></table>
Umpires not listed above:

NYY/BAL - Tschida
CIN/PHI - Kellogg
PIT/FLA - Gibson

Please post your thoughts/trends/any information you feel is helpful.

 

[reNew Orleans]

LAD @ ARZ UNDER 7.5 -121
Lowe
Webb
Eddings
Wind in from LF @ 13 mph

Game
Set
Match

 

[barmeezee]

pending on what kind of UMPIRE tends to be for the day game milke and houston.. i would lean under 9.5 perhaps

 

[reNew Orleans]

Mil/Hou, Diaz is a nice under ump

also leaning towards SD/SF Under 8 -100
Marquez and Cain/Maddux and two teams that just cant score

 

[reNew Orleans]

I wonder what the Yankee Faithful will do with a -125 line on Clemens? I really hope that gets pounded hard because I would like to play Balty tomorrow as a dog.

Bos/Sea OVER 9 -114
I can see going over before 5 Innings doesn't seem like it would take much. Even though Dice-K is pitching better I feel like Boston will get to Freierbend pretty easily for 5 or 6 and then Dice-K 2 or 3, then a couple of bullpen runs?

 

[Terpman92]

<TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"><TBODY><TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"><TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off">Renew-Just booked that Under for Zona/MenInBlue. I like the Over in the BoSox/Mariners too! Good luck tomorrow.
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[Veteran Observer]

"I wonder what the Yankee Faithful will do with a -125 line on Clemens? I really hope that gets pounded hard because I would like to play Balty tomorrow as a dog."

Renew, the line opened here in Reno @-135 and I was going to wait till tomorrow because I thought that was too low. It seems that some Clemens faders have already made an early move. Maybe it will go back up. I don't like taking Orioles at that low of a price without Tejada. Pettite was -157 today and he doesn't make a million a game!

 

[E.T.G.]

aha, yankee fan checking in... and no I wont be backing the greatest franchise in the world tomorrow.

other than that baseball sucks right now

 

[E.T.G.]

bedard +135 tomorrow though def

 

[BetCrimes1984]

LAD @ ARZ UNDER 7.5 -121
Lowe
Webb
Eddings
Wind in from LF @ 13 mph

Game
Set
Match

Zona 10-0-1 to Over their last 11. it would seem the conditions are ripe for this streak to end. Just hope those bullpens arent overly taxed after tonight.

 

[Jack]

Hot weather in Milwaukee tomorrow, two sucky pitchers, both teams hitting around .300 vs righties. Diaz 7-7 O/U, but he does have a larger strike zone.

Anybody know a site that has split O/U W/L stats such as day/night, open/closed roofs, etc?

 

[E.T.G.]

giants under, reds, orioles when its +135, dodgers, wsux, twins

 

[reNew Orleans]

theres been some really odd baseball going on so why not de la rosa and the royals for the sweep with jered weaver off of some injury problems, thought DL but apparently not

 

[Trueblue]

any thoughts on the early game? I find it very hard the d-town gets swept..

 

[Rug Rat]

Both Eddings (LA-Zona) & Diaz (Astros-Milw) are only 7-8 this year to the 'under'.

How 'bout Cincy at Philly over the # with good 'ol Kellogg behind HP who is 10-5 to the 'over' this season.

Jays at Minny over with Brian Runge behind HP who is already 10-5 to the 'over' this year.

Finally, what 'bout Tex at Tigers under with Poncino back of HP who is 4-9 to the 'under' this season.

Simply some #'ers fellows, simply some #'ers, so take them kindly for what they're worth and then relax! :shake:

 

[Dystopia]

any thoughts on the early game? I find it very hard the d-town gets swept..

I agree, but remember, they have verlander going against wright on Thursday to close out the series and that's probably why they won't get swept. Although, taking the gambler against his former team seems like a pretty good idea.

 

[ClevelandsBest]

any thoughts on the early game? I find it very hard the d-town gets swept..

Like someone has already stated this series is 4 games so sweep angle should not be used (never really should be used IMO). I would look more to over in that game. Yes the ump is under this year but if you look into previous years he has been an over ump. A lot of Tigers hitter and Ranger hitters have solid success of opposing pitchers. ONly thing that scares me some is Rogers has had some success with this ump but nothing spectacular

 

[Unicorn]

After retarded Tuesday night, I dunno what to say except - gotta keep grinding...


Anyway, Over in Seattle seems like a lock to me - this guy who starts for Mariners is nothing but batting practice pitcher and even recently slumping "we can't get it done" Boston offense should be able to tag him for decent amount of runs early in the game while Matsuzaka tends to be too perfect and everyone knows how that usually ends - a bunch of SO but he's out before end of 7th inning. Considering Mariners are HITTING again, I can see them getting from 2 to 4 runs off Dice-K.

Tbh, White Sox in Tampa seems like the best play on the board. Slumping Guillen boys may have found the ideal place to boost their confidence and it's no coincidence that they won against usually very tough James Shields last night. Buehrle is their ace and has been decent all season plus his teammates usually support him with plenty of runs so I can see their winning streak extending to 3 games tonight (wow!).

Fausto Carmona and his Indians seem like a fair play to me over the slumping A's. Why not to trust those guys against DiNardo after they've won against Haren and Gaudin, and I won't even mention A's closer Alan Embree who got shelled for 7 earned runs in only 1.2 innings over the last 2 days by Cleveland. It seems like Indians just find a way to win unlike the A's who find their own ways to lose, even after having a 2-run lead in the 9th inning.

Considering the amount of suprises going on in MLB for the last few weeks, I won't be suprised to see Texas win another one vs Tigers with Milwood on the mound and also, Nats winning against the Braves as heavy underdogs. Snakes may be able to avoid losing a series at home with their ace on the mound while you never know with those slumping Yankees - Bedard and O's seem like a possible choice if the line goes a little bit more up. Tomorrow we got Cabrera vs Wang so it's another possibility for the Orioles.

Two more games I'm interested in are surging Cubs with Zambrano and Giants with Cain but I feel a little bit tired atm, so I'll just think about that in the afternoon after I get some rest...

 

[gambaholic]

Actually the diamondbacks and the dodgers are in a 4 game series.. but best of luck anyways unicorn. I'm leaning towards the padres as the giants hasn't posted a win with cain on the mound in over 2 months.

 

[Man on Fire]

LAD @ ARZ UNDER 7.5 -121
Lowe
Webb
Eddings
Wind in from LF @ 13 mph

Game
Set
Match

The roof will be open today, should this be the Over now?
http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/.../roof_info.jsp

 

[reNew Orleans]

Both Eddings (LA-Zona) & Diaz (Astros-Milw) are only 7-8 this year to the 'under'.

How 'bout Cincy at Philly over the # with good 'ol Kellogg behind HP who is 10-5 to the 'over' this season.

Jays at Minny over with Brian Runge behind HP who is already 10-5 to the 'over' this year.

Finally, what 'bout Tex at Tigers under with Poncino back of HP who is 4-9 to the 'under' this season.

Simply some #'ers fellows, simply some #'ers, so take them kindly for what they're worth and then relax! :shake:

It doesn't matter, look @ past years and the % of strikes called compared to the rest of the umpires. O-U records can be misleading, especially early on. They'll most likely straighten themselves out. I'd still play under in LAD/ARZ but idk about the other game, didn't look into it

I dont have time right now to look at the rest but I'll be back in a couple of hours

 

[reNew Orleans]

The roof will be open today, should this be the Over now?
http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/.../roof_info.jsp

considering the wind has changed directions to 11 OUT to LF instead of 13 mph IN from LF... maybe. These aren't fly ball pitchers though. My only concern for the over is bullpen, BC stated that above and both were used heavily yesterday. Eddings is a good under ump despite a 7-8 O/U record, it's very misleading.

 

[Santacapper]

good threas as per usual guys... be back in a bit with some thoughts

 

[Unicorn]

Decided to pass on today's plays.. BOL everyone :cheers:

 

[Jack]

with 105 degree temperature and only 9% humidity, it's hard to bet unders regardless who's pitching.

 

[reNew Orleans]

with 105 degree temperature and only 9% humidity, it's hard to bet unders regardless who's pitching.

humidity HELPS the ball carry. Im perfectly fine with 9% humidity.

 

[Inquisitor]

Bets for today

- Texas @ Detroit OVER 9

- Red Sox (Dice-K)

- Padres (Maddux)

Leans:

- Reds
- Yankees
- Yankees @ Orioles UNDER
- Dodgers @ Arizona UNDER

 

[reNew Orleans]

Poncino this year is calling 63.90% strikes, thats a dramatic difference from most other years, he only had one other year where he called over 63% strikes (63.14% in 2005). I would expect this # to straighten itself out. Millwood and Rogers making his 2nd start seems to be a a reasonable place for his 4-9 record to O/U record to go OVER today.

Runge record, atleast to me, appears to be a product of very low totals. He is 7-2 O/U with totals 8 1/2 or LOWER. He even had a total under 7 this year. That makes him 4-3 with totals 9 or higher. He was 15-14 last year but 2-5 and 11-20 the previous two. His called strike % was over 63.40 last year and '04. 2005 doesn't provide a large sample but it was 64.41%. He's now calling 62.31% strikes. Now with Towers and Boof I can see it going over.

Kellogg seems to be fairly inconsistant year to year. You may have to look at past #'s for Harang and Moyer for Cincy, see how recent they were but I'm just not attracted to betting 9.5 with a guy like Harang who can, his career #'s arent great vs. Philly but last start was in 05. He pitched 1 inning in 06 but that looks like it was in relief. Most of these Reds have never seen Moyer outside of Griffey and Conine and this isn't a very good LHP hitting team but they are 7-9 vs lefties on the road.

Forum appears split on hou/mil total. just from reading it seems like the two pitchers may have good #'s vs opposing teams but I don't trust woody williams and the word under ever.

 

[Blue_Chip]

9% humidity... :36_11_6:

What is it in NOLA right now?

 

[Man on Fire]

Poncino this year is calling 63.90% strikes, thats a dramatic difference from most other years, he only had one other year where he called over 63% strikes (63.14% in 2005). I would expect this # to straighten itself out. Millwood and Rogers making his 2nd start seems to be a a reasonable place for his 4-9 record to O/U record to go OVER today.

Runge record, atleast to me, appears to be a product of very low totals. He is 7-2 O/U with totals 8 1/2 or LOWER. He even had a total under 7 this year. That makes him 4-3 with totals 9 or higher. He was 15-14 last year but 2-5 and 11-20 the previous two. His called strike % was over 63.40 last year and '04. 2005 doesn't provide a large sample but it was 64.41%. He's now calling 62.31% strikes. Now with Towers and Boof I can see it going over.

Kellogg seems to be fairly inconsistant year to year. You may have to look at past #'s for Harang and Moyer for Cincy, see how recent they were but I'm just not attracted to betting 9.5 with a guy like Harang who can, his career #'s arent great vs. Philly but last start was in 05. He pitched 1 inning in 06 but that looks like it was in relief. Most of these Reds have never seen Moyer outside of Griffey and Conine and this isn't a very good LHP hitting team but they are 7-9 vs lefties on the road.

Forum appears split on hou/mil total. just from reading it seems like the two pitchers may have good #'s vs opposing teams but I don't trust woody williams and the word under ever.

60% chance of showers in Det game, does that help the Under more?

 

[reNew Orleans]

9% humidity... :36_11_6:

What is it in NOLA right now?

I didn't know that # for humidity existed :10_5_137:

 

[Blue_Chip]

I don't trust woody williams and the word under ever.

Agreed, so jump on the over with me.

Although I don't trust Houston Astros and the word over ever.

 

[reNew Orleans]

60% chance of showers in Det game, does that help the Under more?

I don't like betting games with rain involved. you don't know what kind of crazy shit will happen then pitchers get pulled if there's a delay (which I would think it helps over) but these pens aren't that bad. I don't know if anyone else has a better view of rain and baseball. But wind is blowing in all day it looks like. there are other guys on this play, might want to ask them what they think in their threads.

 

[reNew Orleans]

Agreed, so jump on the over with me.

Although I don't trust Houston Astros and the word over ever.

haha, exactly. :shake:

 

[reNew Orleans]

The White Sox seems like an awful short price even if it is the White Sox

 

[reNew Orleans]

LAD @ ARZ UNDER 7.5 -121
Lowe
Webb
Eddings
Wind in from LF @ 13 mph

Game
Set
Match

1 1/2 innings left but I am starting to think I made a BIG mistake not going with the 1st thing that jumped out to me yesterday night. :hairout:

 

[E.T.G.]

giants under, reds, orioles when its +135, dodgers, wsux, twins

haha, that would have been a more profitable night than i've had in 1.5months and I did that in 5seconds joking around, terrible.:down: