Wednesday 12/05/12 NBA discussion thread

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Clips should win by DD and cruise, Dallas doesn't even think they can win this game. They play Phoenix the next day, should be the game they fight for.

Charlotte looks like a very strong play. After an embarrassing loss where they blew a huge lead late they'll be chomping at the bit. Should see a pissed off and desperate group looking for a win. Knicks play the Heat next day but not really buying into that, this is more of Charlotte bringing more energy and emotion.
 
Utah should win by dd tonight. Tough spot for orlando playing a 3rd in 4 on a west coast trip in Utah, even better that the first two were wins as a dd dog in each.

Portland has playing 3 ot's in its last two games and this is the last game of their trip, Indy is playing without rest off a long trip with a very draining game played last night. Will wait on it but from an energy standpoint this game looks ripe for a 85-77 stinkfest.
 
Took the Hawks and Over in Indiana.
Hawks because I think the line should be around 4 - 5 points. They are the better team than Denver, regardless of Korver playing or not. Hawks better in the point with Smith and Horford, Harris and Teague just as good as Lawson & Miller and the advantage that Iggy and Galinari have just doesn't justify the line here.

Over in Indiana - Portland played 3 OT in the last two games and this is the last game in their road trip. Indiana comes finally back home after a long trip and very hard game that they won last night.
Both teams shouldn't have the energy to do that extra step on defense and it can turn in to really highscoring game.
But I will settle for 98 - 92 type of game as well :)
 
As the day moves forward the Wolves are becoming less and less attractive. Something tells me the Celtics cover the number.

Bucks seem to match up well for whatever reason vs SA. Good refs for them tonight, home fav is only 12-23 with this crew although it is a small sample size. SA coming off a long road trip playing what is now a good rivalry with Memphis in a very emotional game get the win in OT. Having the 3 day layoff actually may hurt more than help in this spot. Bucks feel like the correct side.
 
divol said:
Took the Hawks and Over in Indiana.
Hawks because I think the line should be around 4 - 5 points. They are the better team than Denver, regardless of Korver playing or not. Hawks better in the point with Smith and Horford, Harris and Teague just as good as Lawson & Miller and the advantage that Iggy and Galinari have just doesn't justify the line here.

Over in Indiana - Portland played 3 OT in the last two games and this is the last game in their road trip. Indiana comes finally back home after a long trip and very hard game that they won last night.
Both teams shouldn't have the energy to do that extra step on defense and it can turn in to really highscoring game.
But I will settle for 98 - 92 type of game as well :)
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If they don't have the extra step for defense also means they won't have their legs under them when they shoot....just some food for thought. GL on ur action
 
Yeah, thought about it, but I believe that after a very low scoring game against Chicago, where every basket was hard - Pacers won't like to play such a game again and will prefer to have some fun.
Maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time... :)

GL to you as well!
 
HardLuck said:
Any guesses on the Toronto @ Sac game? Hoping the Raptors catch at least a bucket.
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The Kings must have the lowest basketball IQ of any team that I've seen in a long time. Everything ends up isolation, Cousins thinks he can take on defenders 1 on 3, Thornton and Evans have no concept of shot selection, and there's just no hustle to get back defensively. About the only time you ever see a spark out of them is when Jimmer comes into the game.
 
hugh613 said:
The Kings must have the lowest basketball IQ of any team that I've seen in a long time. Everything ends up isolation, Cousins thinks he can take on defenders 1 on 3, Thornton and Evans have no concept of shot selection, and there's just no hustle to get back defensively. About the only time you ever see a spark out of them is when Jimmer comes into the game.
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Agree 100%. Tor came so close to pulling a monster comeback in Den but fell short. I think they come out strong tonight trying to redeem themselves from that loss. Sac is the kind of team they can beat on the road. I think they win this one SU.
 
Nothing yet. Have trouble seeing a team with Kaman and Brand not showing up vs Clippers. Also believe Clippers have been a disaster ATS on 1 days rest but do not currently have that stat. Lean to Utah and Spurs. No side possiblel in Atlanta.
 
tuck321 said:
Nothing yet. Have trouble seeing a team with Kaman and Brand not showing up vs Clippers. Also believe Clippers have been a disaster ATS on 1 days rest but do not currently have that stat. Lean to Utah and Spurs. No side possiblel in Atlanta.
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hugh613 said:
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Where can we see those stats?
 
tuck321 said:
Nothing yet. Have trouble seeing a team with Kaman and Brand not showing up vs Clippers. Also believe Clippers have been a disaster ATS on 1 days rest but do not currently have that stat. Lean to Utah and Spurs. No side possiblel in Atlanta.
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Thinking the same thing. The problem is that I just can't see Collison guarding CP3 and I doubt that Brand or Kaman can really do much against Jordan or Griffin.
 
Yeah, I remember now. Sometimes it takes me a whole season to remember things I used to look the season before.
Thanks :tiphat:
 
165yds said:
Clips should win by DD and cruise, Dallas doesn't even think they can win this game. They play Phoenix the next day, should be the game they fight for.

Charlotte looks like a very strong play. After an embarrassing loss where they blew a huge lead late they'll be chomping at the bit. Should see a pissed off and desperate group looking for a win. Knicks play the Heat next day but not really buying into that, this is more of Charlotte bringing more energy and emotion.
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Great call on the Clips tonight, 165! You convinced me to pull the trigger on my Clips, so I just wanted to say thanks for the easy winner!
 
Glad I could help Aztec.

That was a nice stat NBA about Denver in Atlanta.

Can't believe I pussed out on the Cats, dumb move on my part not betting it.
 
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