Wednesday 11/20/13 NBA discussion thread

divol · Nov 19, 2013

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Hulu · Nov 19, 2013

Retburj13 · Nov 19, 2013

timberpups

twinkie13 · Nov 19, 2013

yea wasnt someone talking about a great spot here on Wed?

Cant remember, but was it the wolves?

j3pj3p · Nov 19, 2013

twinkie13 said:
yea wasnt someone talking about a great spot here on Wed?

Cant remember, but was it the wolves?

i think it was the warriors. but not sure :cheers:

nbafan88 · Nov 19, 2013

atlanta BIG

indy is not losing

nets are not losing

nets/pacers ml parlay

askias · Nov 19, 2013

Wiz on a B2B after a big come from behind win tonight.

paradox · Nov 19, 2013

Will surely be on the Wolves.

Retburj13 · Nov 19, 2013

paradox said:
Will surely be on the Wolves.

woulda really pounded if clips won and covered last nite but no matter, still a play

like that wolves lost on tuesday as well

BetCrimes1984 · Nov 19, 2013

twinkie13 said:
yea wasnt someone talking about a great spot here on Wed?

Cant remember, but was it the wolves?

It's Atlanta - Detroit is playing B2B in their 2nd game off a 4 game trip.

divol · Nov 20, 2013

I'm sure that Love wants to win tonight's game against the Clippers, after missing winning shot in LA.

Also, i won't back the Knicks here, but I do think that after 5 straight home losses, playing against the team that eliminated them from the playoffs - can bring this team together. Carmelo didn't forget Hibbert's block I'm sure.
On the other hand, it's very hard to trust Bargniani and Melo's frontcourt against Hibbert and West as far as rebounds go...

I think that Texan derby has all the chances to go Over. Rockets and Dallas both play very high pace basketball and with Calderon and Beverly/Lin you can't expect anything else.
Houston Over on the road and Under at home trend from last season appears to be decent this season as well.

Mokey · Nov 20, 2013

nbafan88 said:
atlanta BIGindy is not losingnets are not losingnets/pacers ml parlay

how can you be sure of a nets win on the road at that? 1 road win all year

JBsNuggets · Nov 20, 2013

Whats the consensus on a PHX bounce back?

divol · Nov 20, 2013

I think that the line is still wrong and Suns shouldn't be favorites by more than 2 points, but my golden rule is that if teams play each other B2B, take the losing team in first game or nothing at all...

divol · Nov 20, 2013

BetCrimes1984 said:
It's Atlanta - Detroit is playing B2B in their 2nd game off a 4 game trip.

Last season Detroit played three times their second game on the road off long road trip (4+ games) - though not all the games were B2B - they went 3 - 0 ATS...

spooks · Nov 20, 2013

Also, i won't back the Knicks here, but I do think that after 5 straight home losses, playing against the team that eliminated them from the playoffs - can bring this team together. Carmelo didn't forget Hibbert's block I'm sure.

On the other hand, it's very hard to trust Bargniani and Melo's frontcourt against Hibbert and West as far as rebounds go...

Not with this guy's defense...

[video=youtube_share;fQAtOD9Bbhc]http://youtu.be/fQAtOD9Bbhc[/video]

divol · Nov 20, 2013

Why? Great defense. It ended up with Pistons turnover and it all thanks to Amare's confusion

nbafan88 · Nov 20, 2013

FUCK tony brothers is in Atlanta

nbafan88 · Nov 20, 2013

Mokey said:
how can you be sure of a nets win on the road at that? 1 road win all year

do you want to take me up on my wager?

Mokey · Nov 20, 2013

nbafan88 said:
do you want to take me up on my wager?

I want some analysis on why the Nets will def win when they have 1 road win all year?

nbafan88 · Nov 20, 2013

Players only meeting for one

nbafan88 · Nov 20, 2013

I guess that's a no. Ok. All talk smokey

nbafan88 · Nov 20, 2013

Put your money where your mouth is. Come on. It'll be fun!

Mokey · Nov 20, 2013

nbafan88 said:
Put your money where your mouth is. Come on. It'll be fun!

I wont bet you because they SHOULD win but I wanted to kno why you think its some lock other then the fact that the coach is in ya avi

Gorgolon Lives · Nov 20, 2013

Might stick with the home teams playing on ESPN angle tonight. That would also mean playing against two "public sides" in Indy and Houston, and I like that. Now I need to find some real basketball reasons for the plays...:thinking:

tuck321 · Nov 20, 2013

Honestly find the discussion fairly strange.

paradox · Nov 20, 2013

I wouldn't bet the Knicks with other peoples money. And i don't think pride alone will be enough to upset the Pacers. After losing against the Bulls, i expect full effort from them today.

Greencastle · Nov 20, 2013

paradox said:
I wouldn't bet the Knicks with other peoples money. And i don't think pride alone will be enough to upset the Pacers. After losing against the Bulls, i expect full effort from them today.

Not just losing to the Bulls but getting down right embarassing and humiliated by them

This team has a lot of pride and plays the game the right way and I expect a good bounce back performance esp with the time off since that last game

Perfect opp for them to put things right against a soft defensive team in New York who are on a back to back playing with a depleted roster

tuck321 · Nov 20, 2013

I think regarding Suns
Refs are not good
Suns started out unlucky but have flunked in the 4th quarter last 3. If Bledsoe plays will be on Suns first quarter past that need to think. Jeff has had funny late game substitutions last couple of games.
Jeff will learn who to play and when but is costing easy wins right now.,

tuck321 · Nov 20, 2013

Seeing refs in NY 9-0 for home dogs

Greencastle · Nov 20, 2013

Like portland again tonite

Don't see anyone on the bucks being able to stop D Lil from getting to wherever he wants which should create open looks for wes and batum all night

And with all the injuries up front Aldridge should have a big edge. Was impressed was that Robinson kid as well in his last game vs the nets

SF_capper · Nov 20, 2013

WOlves and Pelicans 1st Qs

Gorgolon Lives · Nov 20, 2013

tuck321 said:
Seeing refs in NY 9-0 for home dogs

Like it. Need every angle I can find to support a play on the Knicks.

SF_capper · Nov 20, 2013

can someone post when they get millsap's status?

emkee · Nov 20, 2013

tuck321 said:
Seeing refs in NY 9-0 for home dogs

This.

Game is also a Natty televised game and the Pacers are carrying a lot of 'betting weight' into the contest, been around the NBA long enough to know you hold your nose and bet the dog here. Playing the heavy fave works in the playoffs but has issues in the regular season.

Pacers have also been off a long time, sometimes a thorough beatdown makes a team question themselves next time out.

Indy could roll but in this situation I'd be looking to play the dog 9 times outta 10.

Gorgolon Lives · Nov 20, 2013

emkee said:
This.

Game is also a Natty televised game and the Pacers are carrying a lot of 'betting weight' into the contest, been around the NBA long enough to know you hold your nose and bet the dog here. Playing the heavy fave works in the playoffs but has issues in the regular season.

Pacers have also been off a long time, sometimes a thorough beatdown makes a team question themselves next time out.

Indy could roll but in this situation I'd be looking to play the dog 9 times outta 10.

This is what I tried to express above, thanks for this Emkee.

emkee · Nov 20, 2013

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Gorgolon Lives · Nov 20, 2013

I see significant value on the Sixers tonight as a short home dog. Toronto off a 2 game home stand has to fly into the US for this one road game against a stepping-stone Philly squad, and then they go back to Canada for an extended 4 game home stand. I see no reason for Toronto to get up for this game. Toronto is just 2-4 on the road this year.

Philly returns home after losing 3 straight on the road. Philly has a winning record at home, with their only losses to the Spurs, Warriors, and Wizards (in revenge). Philly has beaten Miami, Chicago, and Houston all at home. Impressive to say the least.

Philly is coming off their second worst shooting performance of the year (38%). In their worst performance (35%), they bounced back the following game to shoot 47%. A similar bounce back should be expected tonight.

Gorgolon Lives · Nov 20, 2013

Michael Carter-Williams (foot) said after Wednesday's shootaround, "I feel good. Hopefully I can [play vs. the Raptors]."

He went through Philly's entire shootaround, and Jeff Skversky of Philly's ABC station Tweeted a picture of MCW shooting with the line, "Michael Carter-Williams returns tonight." Tony Wroten's impressive run as a starter may be over, though fantasy owners should check back for the official word this afternoon.

nbafan88 · Nov 20, 2013

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