UFC ON FOX 8: JOHNSON VS. MORAGA July 27th

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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - Facebook - Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:00 PM[/TD]
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[TD]2101 Yaotzin Meza[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+135[/TD]
[TD]Over 1½ +115[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]2102 John Albert[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-175[/TD]
[TD]Under 1½ -155[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Lightweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - Facebook - Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:30 PM[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]2001 Aaron Riley[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+130[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -180[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]2002 Justin Salas[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-170[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +140[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Women's Bantamweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:00 PM[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]1901 Germaine de Randamie[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+135[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -120[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]1902 Julie Kedzie[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-175[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ -120[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Middleweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:30 PM[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1801 Trevor Smith[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+200[/TD]
[TD]Over 1½ -210[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1802 Ed Herman[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-280[/TD]
[TD]Under 1½ +160[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Lightweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 7:00 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1701 Daron Cruickshank[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-165[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -280[/TD]
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[TD]1702 Yves Edwards[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+125[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +200[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Lightweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 7:30 PM[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1601 Mac Danzig[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-105[/TD]
[TD]Over 1½ -150[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1602 Melvin Guillard[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-115[/TD]
[TD]Under 1½ +120[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Lightweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:00 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1501 Tim Means[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+130[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -280[/TD]
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[TD]1502 Danny Castillo[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-170[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +200[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"][/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1401 Michael Chiesa[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+240[/TD]
[TD]Over 1½ -215[/TD]
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[TD]1402 Jorge Masvidal[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-280[/TD]
[TD]Under 1½ +170[/TD]
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[TR="class: LHR"]
[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Women's Bantamweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FOX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:00 PM[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]1301 Jessica Andrade[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+450[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ +145[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]1302 Liz Carmouche[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-600[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ -175[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Welterweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FOX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:30 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1201 Bobby Voelker[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+240[/TD]
[TD]Over 1½ -175[/TD]
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[TD]1202 Robbie Lawler[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-280[/TD]
[TD]Under 1½ +145[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Welterweight 3 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FOX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:00 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1101 Jake Ellenberger[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+190[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -125[/TD]
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[TD]1102 Rory MacDonald[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-230[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ -105[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC on FOX 8 - Flyweight 5 rounds - KeyArena - Seattle, Washington - FOX - Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:30 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1001 John Moraga[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+375[/TD]
[TD]Over 4½ -245[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1002 Demetrious Johnson[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-470[/TD]
[TD]Under 4½ +185[/TD]
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So far only on Ellenberger / MacDonald u2.5 rds to win 1.5*. Honestly I don't see tons of value in this bet from an analytic breakdown, but I feel the motivational factor is off the charts in this fight. Ellenberger has escalated the debacle that was the Condit #1 contender match after Rory's injury and I think both guys are motivated to prove they deserve a title shot. Ellenberger has extremely heavy hands and MacDonald has proven he is a killer when he has a guy in trouble. This just feels like a FOTY type fight and I expect it to be balls to the wall from the bell, especially with a rowdy Canadian crowd coming from Vancouver. Will definitely be looking to hit FOTN prop on 5dimes on this one as soon as it opens.
 
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Debacle may be too strong of a word but Ellenberger is definitely bitter about Hendricks being pulled from their scheduled fight and moved to the Condit fight after Rory pulled out with injury. Then Dana White decided that fight would be for the #1 contender spot. Ellenberger has definitely been talking plenty of smack leading up to this fight saying Rory doesn't deserve a #1 contender match.

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/...ance-ellenberger-not-really-sold-on-macdonald

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/...onald-sometimes-you-just-want-to-hurt-someone
 
My fucking goodness that Punch Out clip is one of the best things i've ever seen on the interwebs. 5 Million stars :cheers:
 
Ellensburger is close, but hes not number 1 contender. He stills need at least 1 win. Maybe 2.
 
Dollaz said:
Guillard. Big
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Agree with you 100% Dollaz. I think he should be at least a 2-1 fav in this fight even with how questionable mentally he has been in the past. I re-watched the Danzig v Gomi fight and the one major thing I took away was how easily Danzig was touched by wider counter punching. Nobody at 155 throws a better counter hook then Melvin and if he touches Danzig with it he will put him to sleep. Played Melvin ITD +200 (5dimes) for 1u and will definitely add if the price gets better.
 
Really enjoyed Moraga on the countdown show. Seems like hes ready to scrap.

BTW Cormier is going to destroy Big Country. Best believe that.
 
Really fucking pumped for the Rory fight been waiting on this fight for the past 3 months. Want to see him come back super strong.
 
Dollaz said:
I want to talk to anyone willing to lay 280 on Herman or Lawler
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Agree with you on Herman but I can understand the books having Lawler in the -250 to -300 range. Not saying I would touch Lawler at the current price but Voelker is taking this fight on two weeks notice and has said he will have no problem standing and trading with Lawler. To me this price is clearly a result of the Koscheck KO and Lawler's willingness to finally train at an elite gym in American Top Team. Voelker is a very tough dude with a solid chin but I don't think anyone has the chin to withstand Lawler's power at welterweight and I think Lawler TKO/KO @ -105 is definitely worth a look.
 
Already locked in a lot of units on Guillard. Took ellenberger (may add by tko/KO), means, Cruikshank, and lawyer/Guillard parlay.

Considerong cheisa by sub. May add smith and Albert.
 
Ellenberger is just a case of me taking him at that number vs almost anyone. I'm not completely sold on Rory so that seals my play.

Guillard is too big, too strong, too motivated and he destroys non elite fighters. Big risk with hi. Is simply his head getting in the way, but I think he's got this.

Castillo is gonna come out and wrestle fuck means. But his problem is that he gasses quickly and cannot get in the correct range to use his wrestling to his advantage once tired nd if he can't get takedown, his chin can't withstand Means power

I just think yes is too old and Cruikshank has incredible leg kicks.

Really leaning cheisa but still holding out on a play
 
I went to high school w/ Bobby Voelker.....hes a bad ass but looks like he might be up against it tonight.
 
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Have no clue how a judge could call that a split dec!!! MMA judges scare me. Randamie won easily 2-1 in a not very exciting fight.
 
Eh, I gave Means slight edge in 2nd. I'm seeing judges like a takedown after 4 mins of nothing on feet and a min of nothing on ground
 
93% confident that this Carmouche is on some type of supplement. Not natural for girls to be built like that. #Cyborg
 
That was a complete mismatch. Obviously he took it on short notice.

LOL at Jeremy Stevens. What a hood rat.
 
Considering a small play on Mayorga. I don't think he should be that big of dog. He should do well if he stays in range
 
lol at Ellenberger trashing Rory. Obviously he is hyping the fight. But the kid is a complete prodigy. His fundamentals and skill set are right up there with the best in the ufc in any division.
 
crawdads said:
Mayorga doesnt win a decision right? Has to be by finish..?
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Im not sure about that. He can control fight on the inside. If he lets DJ work in and out, he'll never win fight, but if he can stay in range and use his footwork, I could see him winning.

As for Rory, I don't fully buy the hype yet. He's gonna have to prove it to me. Beating a worn down Penn isn't proving it to me. And Ellenberger may have the best power at 170.
 
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