UFC 164: HENDERSON VS. PETTIS II August 31st

[Son_of_Balrog]

On to the next one. Busy UFC week boys.

5 Dimes GOGOGOGOGOGO

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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Middleweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Facebook - Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:30 PM[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]2101 Magnus Cedenblad[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-110[/TD]
[TD]Over 1½ -150[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]2102 Jared Hamman[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-110[/TD]
[TD]Under 1½ +110[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Lightweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Facebook - Saturday, August 31, 2013 7:00 PM[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]2001 Al Iaquinta[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-245[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -180[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]2002 Ryan Couture[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+205[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +140[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Facebook - Saturday, August 31, 2013 7:30 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1901 Nikita Krylov[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-200[/TD]
[TD]Over 1½ +200[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]1902 Soa Palelei[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+170[/TD]
[TD]Under 1½ -280[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Fox Sports 1 - Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:00 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1801 Kyung Ho Kang[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-210[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -260[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1802 Chico Camus[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+175[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +180[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Welterweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Fox Sports 1 - Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:30 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1701 Hyun Gyu Lim[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+140[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -195[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]1702 Pascal Krauss[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-160[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +155[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Flyweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Fox Sports 1 - Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:00 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1601 Louis Gaudinot[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+140[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -175[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1602 Tim Elliott[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-160[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +135[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Lightweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Fox Sports 1 - Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:30 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1501 Jamie Varner[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-135[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -190[/TD]
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[TD]1502 Gleison Tibau[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+115[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +150[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Featherweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - PPV - Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:00 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1401 Dustin Poirier[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+135[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -135[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1402 Erik Koch[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-155[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +105[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - PPV - Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:30 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1301 Ben Rothwell[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+110[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ +115[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]1302 Brandon Vera[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-130[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ -145[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Featherweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - PPV - Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:00 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1201 Clay Guida[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+370[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -180[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1202 Chad Mendes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-465[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ +150[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - PPV - Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:30 PM[/TD]
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[TD]1101 Josh Barnett[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-175[/TD]
[TD]Over 2½ -105[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR NonAlt, bgcolor: #E9EEEE"]
[TD]1102 Frank Mir[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+155[/TD]
[TD]Under 2½ -125[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]UFC 164 - Lightweight 5 rounds - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, Wisconsin - PPV - Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:59 PM[/TD]
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[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1001 Anthony Pettis[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]+100[/TD]
[TD]Over 4½ -150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: LR Alt, bgcolor: #EEE8ED"]
[TD]1002 Benson Henderson[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]-120[/TD]
[TD]Under 4½ +120[/TD]
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[Son_of_Balrog]

So far on Mendes / Guida o2.5 -180 to win 2u.

Really like: Bendo and Varner
Eyeing: Barnett (would like -150 or better), Rothwell / Vera o2.5, and Koch / Porier u2.5

Need to spend Friday in the "film room" catching up on a lot of these prelim guys.

 

[Dollaz]

UFC 164

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[h=4]MAIN EVENT / [COLOR=#999999 !important]MATCH 12[/COLOR][/h]​

Versus

[h=3]BENSON HENDERSON[/h]19 - 2 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)​

[h=3]ANTHONY PETTIS[/h]16 - 2 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)

LIVE RESULTS PLAY-BY-PLAY

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[TD="class: col_one"]MATCH[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 5"]FIGHTERS[/TD]
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Josh Barnett
32 - 6 - 0
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Frank Mir
16 - 7 - 0
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[TD]10[/TD]
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Chad Mendes
14 - 1 - 0
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Clay Guida
30 - 13 - 0
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[TD]9[/TD]
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Brandon Vera
12 - 6 - 0
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[TD]vs[/TD]
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Ben Rothwell
32 - 9 - 0
[/TD]
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[TD]8[/TD]
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Erik Koch
13 - 2 - 0
[/TD]
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Dustin Poirier
13 - 3 - 0
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[TD]7[/TD]
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Gleison Tibau
27 - 9 - 0
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Jamie Varner
21 - 7 - 1
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[TD]6[/TD]
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Louis Gaudinot
6 - 2 - 0
[/TD]
[TD]vs[/TD]
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Tim Elliott
9 - 3 - 1
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[TD]5[/TD]
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Hyun Gyu Lim
11 - 3 - 1
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Pascal Krauss
11 - 1 - 0
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[TD]4[/TD]
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Kyung Ho Kang
11 - 6 - 0
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Chico Camus
12 - 4 - 0
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[TD]3[/TD]
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Soa Palelei
18 - 3 - 0
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Nikita Krylov
15 - 2 - 0
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[TD]2[/TD]
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Ryan Couture
6 - 2 - 0
[/TD]
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Al Iaquinta
5 - 2 - 1
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[TD]1[/TD]
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Jared Hamman
13 - 5 - 0
[/TD]
[TD]vs[/TD]
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Magnus Cedenblad
10 - 4 - 0
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[Dollaz]

Im going large on Varner.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Pettis.

 

[STEED]

^

You cray son....Ben Hen on a mission.

 

[STEED]

Im going large on Varner.

Like it. These guys are pretty equal across the board IMO though.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

^

You cray son....Ben Hen on a mission.

Hate that big thighed mothertrucker. Go god.

 

[STEED]

Mothertrucker's FTW

 

[Dollaz]

I think Varner has huge boxing advantage and tibea will gas. I think Varner is a good enough wrestler to keep on feet.

 

[Dollaz]

Sorry, just saw this thread. I like Varner, Barnett, Iaquinta. I like Pettis as a fighter so I'm trying not to bet him just because I enjoy his fights.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

I think Varner has huge boxing advantage and tibea will gas. I think Varner is a good enough wrestler to keep on feet.

Agree 100% on Varner. Usually I see value on Tibau in his fights but this is a REALLY bad matchup for him. Varner confused an elite striker in Guillard for their entire fight with distance control and his quick in and out attacks. I don't see Tibau being able to bully his way into take downs against a guy who rolls with some of the best lightweights in the world daily at MMA-lab.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Added:

Varner -145 to win 2u.
Koch / Poirier u2.5 +105 for 1u.

Will wait til after weigh-ins for the rest of the stuff I'm eyeing.

 

[Jab v2.0]

Varner -145 to win 2u.

I have this exact bet. 2u, as well.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

I have this exact bet. 2u, as well.

:cheers: Tibau did not look to have any kind of size advantage at the weigh in too. Lets see Varner shrug him off with ease in the first half of this fight and punish a gassed Tiabu in the second half.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Couple of additional weigh in thoughts: Vera probably looked the worst I've ever seen him. Seems like he's just blowing off 205 so he doesn't have to work hard to make weight anymore. Def not wanting any piece of the o2.5 rounds now and am really eyeing TRT Rothwell ITD @ +200 as who the hell knows where Vera's mind is for this fight. Also, I know its worth jack shit but Koch and Poirier had a SUPER intense stare down and I just get the feeling these dudes are coming to absolutely throw down to open the show. 5 dimes offering Koch / Poirier FOTN prop at +500, definitely seems like value to me being how dynamic both these guys can strike.

 

[Jab v2.0]

Lim/Krauss won't go distance +105 1u

Koch ITD +210 1u

 

[crawdads]

Benson is the worst ufc champ there is. I don't think he has finished one fight. If Pettis is healthy which is a huge if,then we have a new champ.

 

[crawdads]

Hopefully Randy's kid gets a dub. We'll see..

 

[Dollaz]

Couture is terrible and will just try to clinch all fight and win a boring fight.

Ive heard from a Vera training partner that he isn't looking good.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Just an FYI Guida / Mendes u2.5 just got hit on 5dimes. o2.5 now available for -145 I REALLY like it at this price. 5 dimes is hilarious with their markets, both Guida and Mendes win by decision props have each gone down 30+ cents in the last 24 hours yet the under is hammered? Gotta scratch your head at independent markets sometimes.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Adding:

Rothwell ITD +200 for 1.5u

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Adding:

Koch / Poirier wins FOTN +550 (5 dimes) for .5u

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Man this Tibau money absolutely baffling to me. All i've been hearing is how good a camp Varner and Bendo have had for this card.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Adding:

Varner @ -110 for 1u

I'll bite again. FWIW I capped Varner around -250 in this fight I think he's better everywhere except against maybe Tibau's clinch game. People are really underestimating how much better Varner has become not just as a fighter but mentally since moving to MMA-lab. He should easily keep this fight where he feels he has the biggest advantage and make things very difficult for Tibau.

Rough final Card:

Guida / Mendes o2.5 -180 to win 2u
Jamie Varner -145 to win 2u
Jamie Varner -110 to win 1u
Ben Rothwell ITD +200 for 1.5u
Koch / Poirier u2.5 +105 1u
Koch / Porier FOTN +550 for .5u

Played Guida and Mir by decision for peanuts as well.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Iaquinta putting an absolute beating on Couture. Man these Longo / Serra fighters are fucking animals.

 

[mogo]

In vegas and just grabbed varner -110.... lets do this!

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

In vegas and just grabbed varner -110.... lets do this!

:cheers:

Enjoying the green haired goof get beat to a pulp right now too.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

LOL Varner you idiot going for a flying knee.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Well typical ltibau gas job. Too bad Varner inexplicably throwing a flying knee and pulling guard for a guillotine likley cost him.

 

[mogo]

Last minute of 1st rd lost it for is. Ughhh

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

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[TD="align: left"]8/31/13 10:06pm[/TD]
[TD="class: MiddleRight Currency, align: right"]$150.00[/TD]
[TD="class: MiddleRight Currency, align: right"]$100.00[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Pending[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]8/31/13 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1401 Dustin Poirier/Erik Koch Over 2½ -150*[/TD]
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[Son_of_Balrog]

Last minute of 1st rd lost it for is. Ughhh

Yup and that's why 10 point must doesn't really work for MMA. Varner out landed Tibau 3-1 in rd 1 and got easily up from that TD but we know that doesn't matter to UFC judging. Didn't think Tibau would be able to lay n pray Varner for an entire round but the funny thing is if he does that in round 1 Varner probably stops Tibau due to how gassed he would've been.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Definitely knew that was Tibau's way to win, just annoyed right now with Varner easily out pointing Tibau on the feet he but decides to go for a flying knee and get easily taken down. uking:

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Wow what a fucking round.

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Holy fuck. Got so lucky in that round for my over

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Any thoughts on Vera/Rothwell. I can't decide

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Koch has awful ground defense.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Have rothwill ITD more a play against how bad Vera looked and big ben on TRT.

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

1-0 Start with the Over.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Didn't hit the under but I'll take my chance with FOTN +550 prop. Bendo v Pettis will have to be something special to top that.

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

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[TD="class: MiddleRight Currency, align: right"]$155.00[/TD]
[TD="class: MiddleRight Currency, align: right"]$100.00[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]8/31/13 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1301 Ben Rothwell -155* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Brandon Vera [/TD]
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[GatorsLeafsBills]

Right in the nutsack.

 

[cogenman]

u guys think Henderson can get Pettis this time?

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Tough round to score.

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

What do you guys got? I got this 1-1 I think. I have no idea.

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

ROTHWELLLL!!!!!!

 

[GatorsLeafsBills]

Have rothwill ITD more a play against how bad Vera looked and big ben on TRT.

:cheers: Great Call

 

[oslopez99]

good call GLB, that line moved a lot

 

[oslopez99]

Any good props to play on the Mendes fight?