two trades, help me choose

Tide High

Tide High

p90sex
scenario... i've got 5 closers. Saito, Lyon, Sherril, Gregg, Fuentes. obviously i want to sell 1 or 2.

Hafner is my 1B and no backup.

my OF - Vlad, Kemp, Delmon Young, no backups.

he needs closers and has an excess of 1B and 5 OF. he's got Kotchman Huff and Ortiz.
he only has Hoffman and Joba - will not be a close this year IMO.

here are the trades he's proposing. I think I'm getting the best of both... and i'm probably gonna accept the Ortiz trade since I have no power in my lineup. but i wanted to run it by you guys...

I get
Ortiz
Rowand
Hoffman
for
Vlad
Lyon
Sherrill

OR

I get
Granderson
Kotchman
Hoffman
for
Vlad
Lyon
Gregg
 
so basically i'm getting ortiz for vlad... awesome
hoffman for lyon ... buy lowsell high ... good enough for me
and then rowand for sherrill... awesome considering i have a weak OF and too many closers.

id like to hear what you guys have to say about the 2nd option before i accept the first but i don't know if i can wait. i want to make sure he doesn't get cold feet and cancel it.

i had hoped to package closers for SP but it aint gonna happen. consistent SP is just too had to come by.
 
ME

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</th><th class="check">
</th><th class="opp wide">Opp: 5/9
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(Sea - C)
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(Cle - 1B)
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(Cin - 2B)
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(LAA - 2B,SS)
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(LAA - OF)
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(LAD - OF)
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(Min - OF)
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(Tex - 2B)
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(Was - SS)
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(Col - SS) DL
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(NYY - 3B) DL
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</th><th class="opp wide">Opp: 5/9
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(TB - SP)
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(LAD - SP)
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(LAD - RP)
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(Ari - RP)
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(Bal - RP)
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(Col - RP)
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(Fla - RP)
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(Col - SP)
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(Ari - SP)
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(Ari - RP)
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(Bos - 1B)
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(Phi - 2B)
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(Atl - 3B)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp">^ SD</td> <td class="gametime">Top 7, 3-4</td> <td class="stat wide">51/119</td> <td class="stat">23</td> <td class="stat">10</td> <td class="stat">29</td> <td class="stat">0</td> <td class="stat">.429</td> <td class="stat last">17</td> </tr><tr class="odd"><td class="pos first">SS</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Édgar Rentería
(Det - SS)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp"> Bos</td> <td class="gametime">6:05 pm</td> <td class="stat wide">37/132</td> <td class="stat">17</td> <td class="stat">3</td> <td class="stat">18</td> <td class="stat">1</td> <td class="stat">.280</td> <td class="stat last">8</td> </tr><tr class="even"><td class="pos first">OF</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Curtis Granderson
(Det - OF)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp"> Bos</td> <td class="gametime">6:05 pm</td> <td class="stat wide">15/55</td> <td class="stat">13</td> <td class="stat">5</td> <td class="stat">10</td> <td class="stat">1</td> <td class="stat">.273</td> <td class="stat last">9</td> </tr><tr class="odd"><td class="pos first">OF</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Melky Cabrera
(NYY - OF)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp">^ Cle</td> <td class="gametime">Bot 8, 6-3</td> <td class="stat wide">31/111</td> <td class="stat">16</td> <td class="stat">6</td> <td class="stat">17</td> <td class="stat">3</td> <td class="stat">.279</td> <td class="stat last">10</td> </tr><tr class="even"><td class="pos first">OF</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Aaron Rowand
(SF - OF)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp">^ @Pit</td> <td class="gametime">Bot 8, 4-5</td> <td class="stat wide">35/105</td> <td class="stat">12</td> <td class="stat">3</td> <td class="stat">15</td> <td class="stat">0</td> <td class="stat">.333</td> <td class="stat last">14</td> </tr><tr class="odd"><td class="pos first">Util</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Carlos Gómez
(Min - OF)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp">^ @CWS</td> <td class="gametime">Bot 5, 2-0</td> <td class="stat wide">33/117</td> <td class="stat">19</td> <td class="stat">2</td> <td class="stat">11</td> <td class="stat">13</td> <td class="stat">.282</td> <td class="stat last">11</td> </tr><tr class="even"><td class="pos first">BN</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Aubrey Huff
(Bal - 1B,3B)
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(LAA - 1B)
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(LAA - OF)
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(Mil - SS)
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(Cin - SP)
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(Bos - SP)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp">^ @Det</td> <td class="gametime">6:05 pm</td> <td class="stat wide">34.1</td> <td class="stat">3</td> <td class="stat">0</td> <td class="stat">8</td> <td class="stat">34</td> <td class="stat">4.19</td> <td class="stat last">0.96</td> </tr><tr class="odd"><td class="pos first">RP</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Trevor Hoffman
(SD - RP)
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(NYY - RP)
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(NYM - SP)
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(LAA - SP)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp"> </td> <td class="gametime"> </td> <td class="stat wide">49.0</td> <td class="stat">6</td> <td class="stat">0</td> <td class="stat">9</td> <td class="stat">38</td> <td class="stat">2.02</td> <td class="stat last">0.88</td> </tr><tr class="odd"><td class="pos first">P</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Gavin Floyd
(CWS - SP,RP)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp"> Min</td> <td class="gametime">Bot 5, 0-2</td> <td class="stat wide">39.2</td> <td class="stat">3</td> <td class="stat">0</td> <td class="stat">18</td> <td class="stat">19</td> <td class="stat">2.50</td> <td class="stat last">0.96</td> </tr><tr class="even"><td class="pos first">BN</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Justin Verlander
(Det - SP)
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp">^ Bos</td> <td class="gametime">6:05 pm</td> <td class="stat wide">43.0</td> <td class="stat">1</td> <td class="stat">0</td> <td class="stat">20</td> <td class="stat">25</td> <td class="stat">6.28</td> <td class="stat last">1.44</td> </tr><tr class="odd last"><td class="pos first">DL</td> <td class="dragicon"></td> <td class="player">Wandy Rodríguez
(Hou - SP) DL
</td> <td class="action"></td> <td class="watch"></td> <td class="opp"> Was</td> <td class="gametime">7:05 pm</td> <td class="stat wide">23.1</td> <td class="stat">1</td> <td class="stat">0</td> <td class="stat">5</td> <td class="stat">24</td> <td class="stat">2.31</td> <td class="stat last">1.11</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
all right he decided grandy + kotchman was toomuch and offered Huff instead of Kotchman. screw that. but he said i could counter. i'm just gonna go with the original ortiz+rowand+hoffman combo i think. then i'll still have 4 closers and hopefull can package one with a position player for an upgrade at some point.
 
the granderson/kotchman deal looks much better for you imo.

the giants just dont produce runs the way the tigers and angels do and kotchman is almost a small insurance play on the loss of vlad. Some of their success is coupled anyway. the stolen bases and runs scored and rbi are much better in this trade than the one that is ortiz and rowand imo.
 
lets put it this way as well ........ who in the entirety of baseball from this point forward rates to score more times than granderson ?

i say no one.
 
you were spot on, and that's exactly why he dropped the trade as soon as he sent it. even if i hadn't come here to post i wouldn't have accepted in time. O well. I'm in last place, and I needed to dump a closer, i still think i came out on top. time will tell
 
btw I'm 2nd in SB already and giving none up in the trade. not sure that'll hold up but I'm not hurting for them anyway.
 
yeah you still got the best of it ... he needed help at closer badly so he likely knew it but was desperate
 
meanwhile I've got 5 HRs this week but the guy I'm playing has Youki and 9! jesus, i have everyone else beat in the league in avg and HR and i'm losing both to this weeks matchup.
 
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