Tuesday 03/03/15 NBA discussion thread

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+19 yesterday - +115 ytd

was hoping for a few points lower in cleveland..
need the nuggz to win tonight...( not playing it)
 
Lets look at after a loss in the Cleveland game
After a 5 point loss to 9 Boston is 5-1 ATS away
After any loss Cleveland is 2-7 ATS at home
After 0-4 they are 1-2 ATS
This is a little different. Cleveland is playing off 2 losses.
Still thinking but its really hard to ignore Boston's awesome record as a dog.
10-1 ATS last 11
 
CASH said:
+19 yesterday - +115 ytd

was hoping for a few points lower in cleveland..
need the nuggz to win tonight...( not playing it)
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Not sure about my action in Denver. I usually require a 10 point loss to fade them but the combination of a terrible coach the team hates and Milwaukee playing them after having lost 8 in a row to them and then snapping the losing streak brings up the long streak broken angle so interested in Milwaukee at least as a ML parlay but THIS Milwaukee team has mostly stunk after the trade. Need to think
 
tuck321 said:
Not sure about my action in Denver. I usually require a 10 point loss to fade them but the combination of a terrible coach the team hates and Milwaukee playing them after having lost 8 in a row to them and then snapping the losing streak brings up the long streak broken angle so interested in Milwaukee at least as a ML parlay but THIS Milwaukee team has mostly stunk after the trade. Need to think
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yes new universe,,,
i didnt finish my thought - i wanted them to win tonight and take the wolves tomorrow- this with shaw at the helm but now--- no idea..
 
too fire him at this point - the owners must have been embarrassed about the whole "6 weeks" chant coming out of a timeout..
 
I honestly don't get why Shaw wasn't fired in December 2013, when he lost control of his locker room. They gave more than a year to try and get it back, without big changes to the roster. I honestly just can't get it...
 
One thought that suddenly came to me, maybe they waited for someone to hire Carl? If they fired Shaw before, all the fans would have wanted to see Carl back and we would have seen situation similar to what went on in LA, when Mike was signed over Phil Jackson...
 
Cleveland also starts tonight series of 4 games in 5 nights, so can't see special reason to play too hard...
 
Btw, Cleveland as home favorites off two losses are 1 - 3 ATS and 0 - 4 O/U.
 
I didn't see much of Love when he was with Minn but what's all the fuss about him. From where I stand it doesn't even look like LBJ likes him and he's a guy who had two games to step up one with Irving and James out and the other with James out and Cleveland lost both. By the way I love 5dimes for futures as long as the numbers are right the Cleveland Under was paid already. I'll be surprised if Cleveland doesn't get to the finals with the problems Chicago and Indy have had and then I could see Love gone. It just doesn't seem he fits. Agree, disagree?
 
It's hard to say, because Cleveland needs floor spacing. Now, their only back up for Love is Thompson, so no spacing there...
It took a lot of time for Bosh to find his place and there were talks about trading him as well...
 
I like Denver here tonight. Denver should be 5 points favorites against Milwaukee looking at team's history and even roster. It's a shame what happened between Shaw and players, but it was so obvious...
Denver should really play strong tonight.
Will take both SU and ATS probably...
 
divol said:
I like Denver here tonight. Denver should be 5 points favorites against Milwaukee looking at team's history and even roster. It's a shame what happened between Shaw and players, but it was so obvious...
Denver should really play strong tonight.
Will take both SU and ATS probably...
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Took plus 6 average
 
So…the new coach angle…does the fact that its an interim and not the actual coach for next year have an effect?
 
Paulie The Vig said:
I didn't see much of Love when he was with Minn but what's all the fuss about him. From where I stand it doesn't even look like LBJ likes him and he's a guy who had two games to step up one with Irving and James out and the other with James out and Cleveland lost both. By the way I love 5dimes for futures as long as the numbers are right the Cleveland Under was paid already. I'll be surprised if Cleveland doesn't get to the finals with the problems Chicago and Indy have had and then I could see Love gone. It just doesn't seem he fits. Agree, disagree?
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He's had a lot more than 2 games w/o either Love or LeBron, so you can't base anything on the 2 most recent games. Not sure why you think that LeBron doesn't like him...are you just basing that on body language you've noticed or something? Kendrick Perkins just recently said that the Cavs locker room is one of the tightest he's seen in the NBA, and it actually surprised him they were as tight as they are. The rumors never seem to end with this team, and deservedly so I guess, but it gets tiresome after a while....a month ago LeBron hated Blatt, Blatt was going to be fired, etc, etc.

"I wasn't expecting it to be this close knit," Perkins said. "They really jell outside the court. You could tell just on the plane ride the other night coming back from Detroit. It was like a whole group conversation on the plane, just talking about basketball, talking about life. You could tell when you've got guys that deal with each other outside of the court and connect like that, it carries over onto the court, and you could tell it was genuine."
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Love may very well not be back next year, but I'd imagine a lot of that will have to do with how they end this season, whether they win a title, make the Finals, etc. If he does leave though, it's probably not because he and LeBron don't like each other.
 
Tito said:
So…the new coach angle…does the fact that its an interim and not the actual coach for next year have an effect?
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It all depends on how players treated the coach in my eyes. When Malone was fired from Sacramento, I faded Sacramento, because everyone knew that players loved Malone.

Here we got a coach that players tried to get rid from. I would assume that they would like to show, that the problem was with him, not with them and the only way to do that, is to start winning.
If they will continue the same path as before, everyone will say that changing coaches didn't help.
Obviously that's an assumption only, but I will be looking to back Denver for the next few games.
 
Lareux said:
He's had a lot more than 2 games w/o either Love or LeBron, so you can't base anything on the 2 most recent games. Not sure why you think that LeBron doesn't like him...are you just basing that on body language you've noticed or something? Kendrick Perkins just recently said that the Cavs locker room is one of the tightest he's seen in the NBA, and it actually surprised him they were as tight as they are. The rumors never seem to end with this team, and deservedly so I guess, but it gets tiresome after a while....a month ago LeBron hated Blatt, Blatt was going to be fired, etc, etc.



Love may very well not be back next year, but I'd imagine a lot of that will have to do with how they end this season, whether they win a title, make the Finals, etc. If he does leave though, it's probably not because he and LeBron don't like each other.
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There was an article, can't remember where, that Bron didn't like the fact, that while he tried to get players to bond and do stuff together, Love didn't want no part with that. It's not because of his teammates, but just who he is. The article mentioned that it was almost impossible to get him out of the house in Minnesota as well.
 
harden suspended for tonight

tony allen suspended for tonight
Zach Randolph (illness) will not play on Tuesday
Beno Udrih (illness) will not play on Tuesday.


Kyrie Irving will play Tuesday night


DeMarcus Cousins upgraded to probable Tuesday
 
divol said:
One thought that suddenly came to me, maybe they waited for someone to hire Carl? If they fired Shaw before, all the fans would have wanted to see Carl back and we would have seen situation similar to what went on in LA, when Mike was signed over Phil Jackson...
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You could be right.
 
Lareux said:
He's had a lot more than 2 games w/o either Love or LeBron, so you can't base anything on the 2 most recent games. Not sure why you think that LeBron doesn't like him...are you just basing that on body language you've noticed or something? Kendrick Perkins just recently said that the Cavs locker room is one of the tightest he's seen in the NBA, and it actually surprised him they were as tight as they are. The rumors never seem to end with this team, and deservedly so I guess, but it gets tiresome after a while....a month ago LeBron hated Blatt, Blatt was going to be fired, etc, etc.


Love may very well not be back next year, but I'd imagine a lot of that will have to do with how they end this season, whether they win a title, make the Finals, etc. If he does leave though, it's probably not because he and LeBron don't like each other.
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I can only use an eye test an it just seems to me LBJ looks at him in a way that he doesn't belong on this team. Hey I could be way off and most likely I am but when I look at Love it seems he's also trying to hard and when a play doesn't go his way he looks like a man that let his team and leader down. I've seen that look before from guys that got traded to the Yankees and couldn't live up to expectations and feel like that let the team down. This isn't at all like the Miami trade where Miami had won a ring already and knew what it took to get there. I don't think he knows or maybe not willing to sacrifice. Under 58.5 was outright stealing and the best part is with the troubles Chicago and Indy have they may get to the finals.
 
Paulie The Vig said:
I can only use an eye test an it just seems to me LBJ looks at him in a way that he doesn't belong on this team. Hey I could be way off and most likely I am but when I look at Love it seems he's also trying to hard and when a play doesn't go his way he looks like a man that let his team and leader down. I've seen that look before from guys that got traded to the Yankees and couldn't live up to expectations and feel like that let the team down. This isn't at all like the Miami trade where Miami had won a ring already and knew what it took to get there. I don't think he knows or maybe not willing to sacrifice. Under 58.5 was outright stealing and the best part is with the troubles Chicago and Indy have they may get to the finals.
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The other difference is Love will be a free agent at 26 years old......

I wouldn't count out the Raptors just yet - sure going through a tough time now but plenty of time to get it back together...
 
divol said:
It all depends on how players treated the coach in my eyes. When Malone was fired from Sacramento, I faded Sacramento, because everyone knew that players loved Malone.

Here we got a coach that players tried to get rid from. I would assume that they would like to show, that the problem was with him, not with them and the only way to do that, is to start winning.
If they will continue the same path as before, everyone will say that changing coaches didn't help.
Obviously that's an assumption only, but I will be looking to back Denver for the next few games.
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very good point divot, very true. nuggs players not happy w shaw at all..maybe i will back them thanks
 
Lin being Lin and assisting the asian betting syndicates with meaningless 'junk' buckets. Don't think there is a player in the league that plays harder in the final minutes of a lost game than Jeremy Lin.
 
emkee said:
Lin being Lin and assisting the asian betting syndicates with meaningless 'junk' buckets. Don't think there is a player in the league that plays harder in the final minutes of a lost game than Jeremy Lin.
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Meaningless???
was anywhere from 2-6 point deficit most of the 4th qtr..
 
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