Thursday Night Football Discussion (Another Blowout?)

[Gorgolon Lives]

Is this the night we finally see a close game on TNF? I think so. All thoughts welcome. :cheers3:

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

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[TD="class: smlhdcp bdevtt, align: center"]24½[/TD]
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[Gorgolon Lives]

Betonline offering -2.5. My local has -3 (-105).

 

[D-Woww]

Agreed on this being a close game. I am a huge fan of 3 pt home dogs but cant pull the trigger here. Luck vs Fitz is such a mismatch

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Foster looks healthy again, so I expect HOUS to pound the football and sustain long drives, keeping Luck on the sidelines. Leaning toward HOUS in a low scoring game.

 

[CASH]

Astros big, the former Peyton's have no defense

 

[hare1994]

Both starting guards for Colts out.

 

[hare1994]

Lang off this game, took UCF in college football.

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Thanks Hare.

 

[D-Woww]

Oh fuck i liked ucf

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Lang:

My 50 Dime selection is on UCF over BYU. The current line on this game is -2 1/2 to -3 in Vegas and offshore. If your line is -3 I advise buying down to -2 1/2. If your line is -3 1/2 I advise you buying down to -3. Be sure to shop around for the best line available.

 

[hare1994]

Taking the under for the Colts/Texans. Hard to pick a side. Public all over the Colts, first road team to be favored on Thursday night this year? I think.

 

[emkee]

Not sure where people are getting the notion that the Texans have a solid defense and the Colts have no defense.

Have Houston ranked #26 out of 32 in opponent yards per game. Indy is at #12.

JJ Watt factor skews folks perception I guess.

 

[D-Woww]

Yes watt factor 100%. There is something to be said tho for having a game changer like that

 

[CASH]

Not sure where people are getting the notion that the Texans have a solid defense and the Colts have no defense.

Have Houston ranked #26 out of 32 in opponent yards per game. Indy is at #12.

JJ Watt factor skews folks perception I guess.

Total yards means nothing to me in the nfl.... And look at the crap offenses of their last 3 opponents

i like this situation.. Going Houston Texas size large against the Jeff George's ...

 

[guaranteeed]

Not sure where people are getting the notion that the Texans have a solid defense and the Colts have no defense.

Have Houston ranked #26 out of 32 in opponent yards per game. Indy is at #12.

JJ Watt factor skews folks perception I guess.

yards per play is a lot closer

Houston is tied for 10th in Yards per pass allowed, Indy 17th

Yards per run Indy 25 and Houston 26

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Houston also has 12 takeaways, which is #1 in the NFL.

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Colts not far behind with 10. (tied for 4th)

 

[austinhous]

I think you gotta look at how each team has performed within the division over the last year or so before you make a decision to back the Texans.

 

[2daBank]

right or wrong i never look at yards per gm as a indicator of the strength of a defense.. i think hou pass d is solid but they certainly can be beat in the run game. not exactly a strength of indys tho. they do a good job of limiting big plays by wrs but they do give up a pretty high completion percentage so i think indy drives will chew clock as they will be forced to drive the field with short passes..hou has also been extremely tough when teams get into the red zone so they are forcing you to drive the field then stiffening up when it gets in close. colts pass d has looked better than i expected w/o mathis as they been getting a lot of pressure lately, last gm i was impressed by how often they were up in Flucco's face.. same as hou i believe you can def run on them and hou will have to cause if fitzpatrick in obvious passing situations and is pressured we all know he a turnover waiting to happen in that scenario.. seems like it sets up pretty well for a under, especially if fitzpatrick can avoid turnovers that lead to points. of coarse every prime time under i play ends up getting crushed by the combination of stupid turnovers and flag happy refs extending drives. i made it like 43-44 and think it something like a 23-20 game but im still little hesitant to play a prime time under, especially one that has the best qb in the league on one side and a pick 6 waiting to happen on the other..

 

[emkee]

Either way we're talking Pickzpatrick v Luck.

Luck is not EJ Manuel and JJ is not under center.

Luck 2-0 SU and ATS on Thursday games both on the road which says the kid from Stanford knows how to prep.

 

[hare1994]

Luck also had never lost back to back games and lost the Eagles game earlier this season after a loss.

 

[ManchesterUk]

Either way we're talking Pickzpatrick v Luck.

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Get it EM :cheers3:

 

[XhuegoX]

texans defense is for real. I expect them to dominate the trenches on both sides. If their QB doesn't turn the ball over, they will cover.

 

[CASH]

Either way we're talking Pickzpatrick v Luck.

Luck is not EJ Manuel and JJ is not under center.

Luck 2-0 SU and ATS on Thursday games both on the road which says the kid from Stanford knows how to prep.

and this isnt the dingbats that were coaching the bills when Fitzy was under center... it also isnt the bills defense..... Yes luck is better than fitzy..... but if you are just going on what he did in buffalo... good health....

 

[Inspekdah]

Watched every snap of Colts last weekend as I was on them huge.

Feel so lucky to have won that game. It's like the Ravens never, ever, had the ball.

Colts were far from smooth in that game. Lucky to have covered, let alone won.

 

[Inspekdah]

Fitz was able to lead a far worse Titans team to a push last year in a similar situation.

 

[XhuegoX]

texans defense is for real. I expect them to dominate the trenches on both sides. If their QB doesn't turn the ball over, they will cover.

:rofl:

 

[JROCK1966]

I think my over is in good shape. :benchpress:

 

[CASH]

and this isnt the dingbats that were coaching the bills when Fitzy was under center... it also isnt the bills defense..... Yes luck is better than fitzy..... but if you are just going on what he did in buffalo... good health....

my bad