Thursday Discussion/Thoughts

[BetCrimes1984]

<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=wht-title bgColor=#16177c><TD colSpan=3>Game</TD><TD noWrap>Run Line</TD><TD noWrap>Money Line</TD><TD noWrap>Total Runs</TD><TD>More </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>901</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Atlanta Braves
T. Hudson

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -226 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-113 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 8 -110 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>09:10 AM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>902</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>New York Mets
J. Maine

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +206 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+105 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 8 +100 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>903</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Los Angeles Dodgers
B. Tomko

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +140 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-114 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10.5 -110 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>09:35 AM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>904</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Cincinnati Reds
P. Dumatrait

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -150 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+106 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10.5 +100 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>905</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Washington Nationals
J. Hanrahan

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -180 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+115 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 +100 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>12:35 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>906</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>San Francisco Giants
P. Misch

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +170 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-123 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -110 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>907</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Florida Marlins
S. Mitre

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -156 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+124 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 11 +107 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>908</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Philadelphia Phillies
K. Kendrick

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +146 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-132 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 11 -117 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>909</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>San Diego Padres
C. Young

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +116 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-149 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 8.5 -111 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>910</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>St Louis Cardinals
J. Pineiro

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -126 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+141 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 8.5 +101 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>911</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Chicago Cubs
T. Lilly

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +145 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-104 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10 -106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>06:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>912</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Colorado Rockies
U Jimenez

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -155 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-104 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10 -104 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>913</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Pittsburgh Pirates
I. Snell

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -172 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+120 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 +107 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>06:40 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>914</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Arizona D-Backs
D. Davis

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +162 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-128 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -117 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>915</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Tampa Bay Devil Rays
S. Kazmir

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -161 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+129 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -112 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>10:05 AM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>916</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Detroit Tigers
J. Bonderman

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +151 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-137 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 +102 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>917</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Minnesota Twins
M. Garza

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +123 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-136 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10 +100 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>11:10 AM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>918</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Kansas City Royals
K. Davies

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -133 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+128 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10 -110 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>919</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Seattle Mariners
H Ramirez

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -169 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+110 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10 -108 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>920</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Baltimore Orioles
D. Cabrera

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +159 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-118 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10 -102 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Thu 8/9</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>921</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Cleveland Indians
A. Laffey

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -170 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+122 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +104 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>922</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Chicago White Sox
M. Buehrle

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +160 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-130 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -114 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ff0000><TD class=sports-label colSpan=3>Thursday, Aug 9</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>American League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>1:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Tampa Bay at Detroit
Home Plate Umpire: Reilly, Mike

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Scott Kazmir
Jeremy Bonderman
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>2:10 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Minnesota at Kansas City
Home Plate Umpire: Everitt, Mike

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Matt Garza
Kyle Davies
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Seattle at Baltimore
Home Plate Umpire: Reliford, Charlie

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Horacio Ramirez
Daniel Cabrera
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:11 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Cleveland at Chi. White Sox
Home Plate Umpire: Froemming, Bruce

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Aaron Laffey
Mark Buehrle
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>National League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>12:10 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Atlanta at NY Mets
Home Plate Umpire: Meals, Jerry

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Tim Hudson
John Maine
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>12:35 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>LA Dodgers at Cincinnati
Home Plate Umpire: Emmel, Paul

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Brett Tomko
Phil Dumatrait
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>3:35 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Washington at San Francisco
Home Plate Umpire: Diaz, Lazaro

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Joel Hanrahan
Patrick Misch
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Florida at Philadelphia
Home Plate Umpire: Hickox, Ed

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Sergio Mitre
Kyle Kendrick
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:10 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>San Diego at St. Louis
Home Plate Umpire: Foster, Martin

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Chris Young
Joel Pineiro
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>9:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Chi. Cubs at Colorado
Home Plate Umpire: N/A

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Ted Lilly
Ubaldo Jimenez
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>9:40 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Pittsburgh at Arizona
Home Plate Umpire: Campos, Angel

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Ian Snell
Doug Davis
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[B.A.R.]

Like CWS a lot

Here in motown..Bondy is due...but no ay I back him in all honesty..not sure what up with him

 

[BetCrimes1984]

A study in offensive futility.

LA? No, Saint Louis.

The Cards have scored in just 2 of their last 30 innings. In 1 of those 2 they just happened to manage 10 runs, lol.

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Cincinnati is U/O 9-2-2 their last 13 home games.

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The Yankees have seen 17 of their last 20 games decided by 3+ run margins. Only 1 game over this stretch has been decided by a 1 run margin.

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[gambaholic]

I like the braves tomr. Maine has been struggling and hudson is hot

 

[gambaholic]

TB looks good tomr. too...ill keep fading bonderman until he proves me wrong

 

[barmeezee]

yea Im goin big on CWS myself... I played against laffey in high school .. hes a baby to me.

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[tuck321]

In the Washington game I have seperate bets on Washington minus Young and the Under. This among other things will be putting me against a homer ump and betting with very limited day era info relative to the 2 starters. There are plus features but I am very short on time. gl

 

[tuck321]

Played Phillie rl. Terrible day of week and miserable ump. Too bad. Phillie swept Pitt at home recently and Florida is even more hopeless a team than Pitt plus they like Kendrick and hate Florida. Kick the weak.

 

[Blue_Chip]

already on Arizona -126

COL Rockies -104... thank you ,sir, may I have another...
Cubbies struggling w/o Soriano. Lilly been good but last struggle came against Rockies. Lilly career vs COL: (2 games) 7 2/3 IP, 12 hits, 9 runs, 6:7 K:BB, 9.39 ERA, and 2.48 WHIP.

 

[tuck321]

Going along on WS. Should be noted lefthande rPerez not available out pen tonight and Carmona facing Yanks at home tomorrow.

 

[BetCrimes1984]

A few stats for the PIT game

Pitt is 1-11 SU in their last 12 road games off a road game in which they scored 4+ runs. They average just 2.58 runs in the subsequent game. The obvious observation is they are not backing up any kind of offensive output when it comes to road games (they're 6-17 SU in this spot over the season as a whole).

Pitt is 2-8 SU in the last game of their 10 previous road series of at least 3 games (6-9 SU on the season overall). Observation here being they look more interested in getting out of town as fast as possible in recent road series (in 1 of their 2 wins, they were the Fav).

Pitt is 0-5 SU on the road after conceding 10+ runs in their previous game.

Arz is 7-0 SU as a Fav off scoring 8+ runs in their previous game this season (4-4 SU as the Dog in the same spot). They average 6.71 runs in these games as a Fav, making for the observation they back up strong offensive showings.

Arz is 5-1 SU in their last 6 home game 3s as a Fav, after starting the season 3-5 SU in the same spot. Observation being that as they've become more competitive in their efforts to win their division, they've been finishing off home series when they've been expected to (as Fav) in a much better fashion (which is what you'd expect from a side contending for a div title).

 

[Satyr]

Arizona it is...6 units on -1 (2.10) for me...GL