The New Playoff Discussion...
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KJ
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jedi ninja
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Right. Which means it’s exactly what the most incompetent organization in sports will choose.
6 or 8 are the only options that should be considered, as has been discussed on here many, many times.
guaranteeed
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Yep, was just to fill the schedule
Makes sense the no bye, if the top 6 seeds are all conference champs
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Regular season gonna mean so much for every team in top 25 into november makes the season a lot more fun
Only thing you lose is the "game of the century" types...but that's fine nowadays... Rarely happens...
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Yep, every week of the regular season, and every conference tourney final mattering is much better in the long run
Also, keeps teams alive longer, b1g or sec teams who lose in september were basically done in past, with the 6 at large, still makes sure best teams get to playoff, while also making sure every team has a chance every season, aka the usf rule
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From reading details
First round would be on campus, once it's down to 8 than at 'bowl' sites
First round post post conference titles pre christmas
Qf on Jan 1 or 2
Earliest would be 2023
First round would be on campus, once it's down to 8 than at 'bowl' sites
First round post post conference titles pre christmas
Qf on Jan 1 or 2
Earliest would be 2023
guaranteeed
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Notre dame ad was in the working group, and they would be team with biggest potential issues, so seems to have momentum
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KJ
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Who outside of fan bases are interested in Bama/Clemson/LSU/Ohio St/Oklahoma in this mini tournament? Occasionally someone else, sure, but this is not exciting for the sport
TahoeLegend
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Sounds great to me. The only part I don't like is giving four teams a bye
The fact the "six most highly rated conference champs" are automatically in is interesting. I could see a year where a Power Five conference power gets knocked off by a two loss team from the other division and it allows to Group of Five champs in. I I like that idea.
The fact the "six most highly rated conference champs" are automatically in is interesting. I could see a year where a Power Five conference power gets knocked off by a two loss team from the other division and it allows to Group of Five champs in. I I like that idea.
KJ
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Depends, it can read a couple ways
Is the individually rated teams from any conference, or the champs of the 6 highest rated conferences?
TahoeLegend
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One thing I've seen that i hope they factor in, gotta cut out some neutral site games
The quarters at least need to be on campus, preferably semis as well, but making fans travel for 3 potential games
Right now it's just that first week of games where the top 4 have byes, so the top 4 seeds dont even get a home game too, they go straight to neutral site
The quarters at least need to be on campus, preferably semis as well, but making fans travel for 3 potential games
Right now it's just that first week of games where the top 4 have byes, so the top 4 seeds dont even get a home game too, they go straight to neutral site
KJ
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Really think you have to get rid of a reg season game if you're going to do this, too much unpaid football for a lot of these guys already.
Risking more guys just not playing after the semester is over to prepare for draft, doesn't matter if they're playing for a 'ship I believe
Risking more guys just not playing after the semester is over to prepare for draft, doesn't matter if they're playing for a 'ship I believe
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You think guys are gonna sit out a semi final or final in a playoff?
Gandolf
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So your 12 teams will annually be from the same 21/22 programs:
5 Power 5 champs (generally Bama, Ohio St, Clemson, Oklahoma, USC or Oregon)
1 Non-Power 5 champ (generally from AAC)
3 SEC wildcards (pick from Fla, Ga, LSU, Auburn, A&M)
1 Big 10 wildcard (pick from Iowa, Wisky, Mich or PSU)
1 Big 12 wildcard (pick from Texas, OK St or Baylor)
1 ACC wildcard or Notre Dame (it'll be ND, who are we kidding?)
I guess its a little more variety than what we see now. There have only been 11 teams in the CFP in its 7 years.
5 Power 5 champs (generally Bama, Ohio St, Clemson, Oklahoma, USC or Oregon)
1 Non-Power 5 champ (generally from AAC)
3 SEC wildcards (pick from Fla, Ga, LSU, Auburn, A&M)
1 Big 10 wildcard (pick from Iowa, Wisky, Mich or PSU)
1 Big 12 wildcard (pick from Texas, OK St or Baylor)
1 ACC wildcard or Notre Dame (it'll be ND, who are we kidding?)
I guess its a little more variety than what we see now. There have only been 11 teams in the CFP in its 7 years.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
This sucks.
KJ
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It's boring
This isn't pro sports. I don't give a flyin' fk about elite. It's fun for you because your team is in there. But it's a terrible design that a ton of people even in the US don't really give a shit about anymore.
The ship is sailing
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
There’s no point to adding more teams. Only twice in seven years has the play-off field excluded a team (or teams) with a credible chance at winning it all (TCU and Baylor in 2014 and Auburn in 2017). It’s just going to add the “excitement” of teams competing to lose to the teams who deserve to be there. Maybe “Cinderella” will make it to the Final Four and end the season with a loss!
College football has the best regular season of any sport, and anything that increases the focus on the postseason tends to ruin that.
KJ
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No doubt I agree with the last part fo sho
There should never be a Cinderella in a 4 team tournament, the politics at this point are not doing the current trophy any favors
survive&advance
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I think the main point here is that this should theoretically make the elite teams weaker. The same 5-6 schools get all the top recruits partly because of the playoff.
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No way
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But If the argument is NC St should be able to recruit with FLA, obviously that’s ain’t it. Not saying you are saying that, but…
I think 6-8 is fine…..6 better I think
How is the balance really off? We’re we not rowing the boat in the B10 recently?
Iowa St had a nice nice run.
Duke was in the ACC Ship not too too long ago yea?
If people mean the G5, yea let’s let one in. If they can’t all get in, that’s why we get bowl games and the proverbial who wants to be there/who doesn’t.
It’s fun. I definitely want the regular season to be intense tho.
I think 6-8 is fine…..6 better I think
How is the balance really off? We’re we not rowing the boat in the B10 recently?
Iowa St had a nice nice run.
Duke was in the ACC Ship not too too long ago yea?
If people mean the G5, yea let’s let one in. If they can’t all get in, that’s why we get bowl games and the proverbial who wants to be there/who doesn’t.
It’s fun. I definitely want the regular season to be intense tho.
survive&advance
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It’s not THE reason but I think it factors in without question. You don’t think Dabo is selling that they make the playoff every season?
twinkie13
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I’m sure he says we have the easiest road to it looking at the conference he is in.
But he had to do work before he got to that point ya know?
survive&advance
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Oh no doubt. But once they made their breakthrough they’ve gone from good program to elite. The expanded playoff allows more programs a chance to make that same breakthrough- winning leads to better recruiting. Who knows? Maybe the expansion won’t change recruiting at all. But it does offer many more programs a seat at the table to win by competing for a championship.
Also, I am not a strong proponent of the 12 team playoff. But I do think the current system is leading cfb down the wrong road. The past few seasons have been really underwhelming imo as a pretty neutral but avid fan
twinkie13
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*VK Shake*
I might be a bit jaded as I follow recruiting avidly year round and I’ve seen the ups and downs
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Think about USC. They’ve been better recently but If the can’t keep kids in California that’s on them. The playoff has nothing against the P12.
It’s called don’t suck. You think if USC was remotely good they keep those uniforms out the game? Same for Texas.
I don’t have all the answers but just batting things around
It’s called don’t suck. You think if USC was remotely good they keep those uniforms out the game? Same for Texas.
I don’t have all the answers but just batting things around
survive&advance
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Pretty good article on the athletic about this today, 40% increase in top 100 recruits going out of state compared to a decade ago. Technology has been a huge driver
All over the map: How national recruiting became essential for college football elites — and made it harder to keep up
There has been a 40 percent increase in top-100 recruits deciding to go out-of-state to play college football compared to a decade ago.
theathletic.com
twinkie13
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Can’t wait. Look forward to seeing you for the season
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
It will mean so much more for teams like Texas A&M, Georgia and Florida because Alabama beat them all in 2020, yet those would be 3 SEC wildcard teams who get into a 12 team playoff.
It's awful. What consequence is there playing; winning or losing those games then at all?
They have to expand the field enough to get more TV revenue, that is all it is - integrity and merit go out the window for growth and chasing more money. Such is life. The college football post season is the least important and least relevant aspect of the sport and doing this might excite some people, but it is terrible for the greatest teams who actually earn and play their way into a shot at the title.
Indiana!?!? Indi-fucking-ana with a national title opportunity for finishing second in their own division (which was historically bad in 2020). They lose their toughest game of the year vs their highest quality opponent, yet somehow that should be rewarded?
12 team playoff like this is a total joke.
I can compromise on playoff expansion; it is very simple. Too simple and not enough human manipulation and not enough money for the power 5 conferences and teams so it will never ever be implemented. But it is simple, win your conference, earn a berth into the playoff. Sure there are undeserving power 5 and group of 5 conference champions that will get a seat a the table, but here is the thing - every single team in a conference will know what they have to do and every single team will control their own destiny. No human cherry picking, bias and favoritism. Don't belong to a conference? Not eligible. Done. You want to stay independent, that is fine, but ineligible for the national championship. Join a conference to gain access. By doing it this way the regular season and the conference championship race IS the playoff to qualify for the playoff. Makes soooo much more sense. No atlarge bids, never ever. No multiple teams from the same conference, never ever.
Actually I'm somewhat ok with the current system. I'd change it to the the 4 highest conference champions. The committee blows, but if they did a BCS type metric to pick the 4 highest conference champions I would be a happy man. And in all honesty, if they just went back and voted on a champion, well that is better in my opinion than a 12 team playoff.
