txtennisboy
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Ou -11 Or Texas +11
Lean Texas.....seems Like Too Many Points To Me
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Lean Texas.....seems Like Too Many Points To Me
Thoughts?
Texas Vs. Ou
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Levander Williams
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I am on OU big. Anyone who is a Texas fan knows that without Vince Young, Greg Davis has a serious brain fart in the Texas/OU game. I honestly think that in these games that Mack Brown doesn't play to win, but rather he plays to keep it close. Some people have also said that Texas hasn't played to their potential this year. I for one think that they have been playing to their potential but they just aren't a very good team.
You also have to consider that McCoy is hurt and Stoops will have his team gunning for him. McCoy hasn't looked that great this year either and seems to lack any kind of deep throws, everything is always short. My first thought after I saw OU lost was to pound the Sooners, even before the Texas game was over. Stoops will have his team ready to play this game and I promise you that he has been chewing ass all week while Mack's hands have become chapped from all the clapping.
This Texas team is a team without leadership or heart right now. Here aare some quotes from some players after the loss, Jamaal Charles was asked his opinion after the game and all he said was, "Better luck next week." Frank Okam said that the loss, "Didn't really surprise him." I have also been hearing that the locker room is becoming divided between the upper classmen and lower classman.
From all accounts that I have heard, Mack is losing control of the team and is just not relating to them very well. If you can't get up for a game with Vince in town to watch you and for revenge from last year, then what makes you think that they will get up for OU?
I think that OU won't have to rely on Bradford, but will dominate the LOS instead. The Arky St. coach said after the game that we were soft on both sides of the ball, especially up front. Ron Prince said that KSU was faster at every position on the field. Add all this to the arrests and Mack's history in big games, and I will take the sooners.
Jusr remember, Mack has ONE conference championships in 23 years for a reason, and he would still be searching for that ONE if it hadn't been for #10. I am on OU -10
You also have to consider that McCoy is hurt and Stoops will have his team gunning for him. McCoy hasn't looked that great this year either and seems to lack any kind of deep throws, everything is always short. My first thought after I saw OU lost was to pound the Sooners, even before the Texas game was over. Stoops will have his team ready to play this game and I promise you that he has been chewing ass all week while Mack's hands have become chapped from all the clapping.
This Texas team is a team without leadership or heart right now. Here aare some quotes from some players after the loss, Jamaal Charles was asked his opinion after the game and all he said was, "Better luck next week." Frank Okam said that the loss, "Didn't really surprise him." I have also been hearing that the locker room is becoming divided between the upper classmen and lower classman.
From all accounts that I have heard, Mack is losing control of the team and is just not relating to them very well. If you can't get up for a game with Vince in town to watch you and for revenge from last year, then what makes you think that they will get up for OU?
I think that OU won't have to rely on Bradford, but will dominate the LOS instead. The Arky St. coach said after the game that we were soft on both sides of the ball, especially up front. Ron Prince said that KSU was faster at every position on the field. Add all this to the arrests and Mack's history in big games, and I will take the sooners.
Jusr remember, Mack has ONE conference championships in 23 years for a reason, and he would still be searching for that ONE if it hadn't been for #10. I am on OU -10
txbarbarossa
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Don't see how you can take that Texas team. I was at the game. They are a crappy team.
Line was 10.5 on sportsbook.com's GOY lines a few weeks ago.
vegas releases 6.5
an hour later Bookmaker releases 11.
Obviously everyone likes OU.
My question..and I think I know answer...is can Texas develope a defensive scheme to get to Bradford a bit. We saw last week against a solid defense that he isn't as great as we hyped him up to be..although he is still a very good up and coming QB.
vegas releases 6.5
an hour later Bookmaker releases 11.
Obviously everyone likes OU.
My question..and I think I know answer...is can Texas develope a defensive scheme to get to Bradford a bit. We saw last week against a solid defense that he isn't as great as we hyped him up to be..although he is still a very good up and coming QB.
Levander Williams
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BAR, if you watch Texas then you would know that we don't have a specific game plan each week to take advantage of our opponents weaknesses, for whatever reason we just don't. We have the same game plan each week and it's not a very good one. I feel that Akina is in way over his head as DC and that someone should replace him soon. I also think that the sideways dink and dunk offense that Davis likes to run is going to blow up in our faces this weekend. OU is too fast for or team to be running plays east and west. Davis was also quoted as saying that our offense has had so many turnovers this year because he has given them too much freedom, and that he is going to pull the reigns in some. WTF, we run the most vanilla offense in NCAA. Don't forget the fact that Jamaal has a tendency to fumble, and Colt has been throwing tons of picks, OU's defense could have a field day off of turnovers. I think that Stoops is smart enough to put this game in Patrick's, Murray's and the OLine hands. One more point that I would like to make is about OUs WRs. Kelley is a big WR while Texas is running two starting corners out there that are 5'9 and 5'10. There back ups are freshmen and sophmores with minimal game experience. While our corners have played "average," it's not like we have played anyone with a good receiving core yet. THis is something else I am going to keep my eye on.
I really can't find one reason to take my Horns as much as I try. I think that this game can get out of hand in a hurry.
I really can't find one reason to take my Horns as much as I try. I think that this game can get out of hand in a hurry.
bersrker
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As much as I hate to say it, I think OU kills Texas in this situation. I've watched most of the games from both teams, and this Texas team is not very good.
The have nobody on the offensive line, and while the defensive line is supposed to be good, they have not been dominant at all this year. The Texas linebackers are slow and everybody on the defense will over pursue and buy the fake. Stoops will have at least one trick play that will surprise Texas.
As for Texas' offense, it's boring and predictable. Colt had a great year last year, but he's been running for his life this year. He got hit all the time last week against KSU. That was a big part of their gameplan. They were bringing 6 players, so Greg Davis decided to go 5 wide on them, but Colt couldn't get the ball out quick enough. The running game is nonexistant. Everything that Levander said about the room dividing seems to be true. The only thing that VY had to say after watching the loss last week was "They need to get together as a team."
Stoops sees this game as the biggest game of the year for Oklahoma, and plans everything around it. Mack Brown likes to say that it's just another game, and it's no bigger than playing Baylor or Colorado. All of the OU players know how much this game means, and will treat it like that. Texas has been soft all year and will get punched in the mouth.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Colt's injury and whether or not he plays. If he's out, that means John Chiles will be in. Many people are trying to say that he's a mini-Vince, but even Vince Young only managed to beat OU once. The original gameplan this season was to get Chiles some real work in the nonconference games, but since Texas couldn't blow anybody out, he didn't get in until the Rice game for a little bit, and he pretty much just ran the ball. Chiles was in the game situationally last week, but just ran the ball until they took Colt out. He's 1-6 passing this year, and most of those came in the last 2 minutes of the blowout to KSU. If he starts this week, OU will stack the line and ask for him to throw it. That's not a good position to have a true freshman who's only played 2 years of QB (he was a WR for most of high school)
The have nobody on the offensive line, and while the defensive line is supposed to be good, they have not been dominant at all this year. The Texas linebackers are slow and everybody on the defense will over pursue and buy the fake. Stoops will have at least one trick play that will surprise Texas.
As for Texas' offense, it's boring and predictable. Colt had a great year last year, but he's been running for his life this year. He got hit all the time last week against KSU. That was a big part of their gameplan. They were bringing 6 players, so Greg Davis decided to go 5 wide on them, but Colt couldn't get the ball out quick enough. The running game is nonexistant. Everything that Levander said about the room dividing seems to be true. The only thing that VY had to say after watching the loss last week was "They need to get together as a team."
Stoops sees this game as the biggest game of the year for Oklahoma, and plans everything around it. Mack Brown likes to say that it's just another game, and it's no bigger than playing Baylor or Colorado. All of the OU players know how much this game means, and will treat it like that. Texas has been soft all year and will get punched in the mouth.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Colt's injury and whether or not he plays. If he's out, that means John Chiles will be in. Many people are trying to say that he's a mini-Vince, but even Vince Young only managed to beat OU once. The original gameplan this season was to get Chiles some real work in the nonconference games, but since Texas couldn't blow anybody out, he didn't get in until the Rice game for a little bit, and he pretty much just ran the ball. Chiles was in the game situationally last week, but just ran the ball until they took Colt out. He's 1-6 passing this year, and most of those came in the last 2 minutes of the blowout to KSU. If he starts this week, OU will stack the line and ask for him to throw it. That's not a good position to have a true freshman who's only played 2 years of QB (he was a WR for most of high school)
I bleed orange more than anyone - but we are going to get beat down and beat down hard on Saturday.
Reason #1:
OU is mad after losing, Texas "expects to play hard"
Reason #2:
Stoops has lost 2 in a row - both pretty convincingly - he will put his foot on Mack's throat and not let off the whole game
Reason #3:
No VY
Reason #4:
Demarco Murray may score 4 TD's himself in the return game
Reason #5:
Malcolm Kelly is going to eat our 5' 7" DB's for lunch
Reason #6:
Mack said they were going back and SIMPLIFYING the offense - holy sh*T - is it that difficult and complex now?
There are 1,000 reasons - but I go back to #1 on my list
Reason #1:
OU is mad after losing, Texas "expects to play hard"
Reason #2:
Stoops has lost 2 in a row - both pretty convincingly - he will put his foot on Mack's throat and not let off the whole game
Reason #3:
No VY
Reason #4:
Demarco Murray may score 4 TD's himself in the return game
Reason #5:
Malcolm Kelly is going to eat our 5' 7" DB's for lunch
Reason #6:
Mack said they were going back and SIMPLIFYING the offense - holy sh*T - is it that difficult and complex now?
There are 1,000 reasons - but I go back to #1 on my list
Frank Costanza
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Can Texas develop a scheme for Bradford? Hell, we had all summer to develop schemes to address our talent level, and nothing has come to fruition. I wouldn't hold my breath that our staff is going to be real innovative for the game this Saturday. They haven't been in years, and I wouldn't expect anything this weekend.
Stoops and his players are probably pissing fire right now after losing. Ours are contemplating, openly, that it's not the end of the world if we're 0-2 to start off conference play.
We're going to get rolled by a team that is more talented, better coached, and will want to win alot more.
Stoops and his players are probably pissing fire right now after losing. Ours are contemplating, openly, that it's not the end of the world if we're 0-2 to start off conference play.
We're going to get rolled by a team that is more talented, better coached, and will want to win alot more.
Texas is in for a severe beatdown. The issues with our program run deep and we've come full circle to pre-VY days. I just laughed and shook my head when I read Mack Browns quotes this week about having to simplify things on offense this week. Our offense was already pretty simplistic and now we'll revert to our typical ways against OU of ridiculously conservative gameplans. If you want to make money take OU this week. We're talking 45-13 variety beatdown.
txbarbarossa
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bump here.
I really like OU here. McCoy got hurt against KSU and last year in a similar kind of injury he laid a huge egg against TAMU. And texas has basically no backup QB.
I really like OU here. McCoy got hurt against KSU and last year in a similar kind of injury he laid a huge egg against TAMU. And texas has basically no backup QB.
txtennisboy
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OU, OU, OU that's all i'm hearing so far this week. I wondering how much more this line can go up.....3 reasons not to bet Texas
1. Mack Brown
2. Texas Offense is so unpredictable
3. special teams looked unbelievably bad last week
Sooners lose to the Buffs
how bout some reasons not to bet OU????
anybody?
1. Mack Brown
2. Texas Offense is so unpredictable
3. special teams looked unbelievably bad last week
Sooners lose to the Buffs
how bout some reasons not to bet OU????
anybody?
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
how bout some reasons not to bet OU????
anybody?
usucks:usucks:
We have also hired the Oregon Duck to knock over the stupid boomer sooner wagon. BEVO would have done it himself but he plans to spend his time hitting on a few of the oklahoma cheerleaders.
There are a lot of the same players playing in this game as the game they played last year ... a game in which the longhorns won. The players should have some confidence in these matchups. Also , this is Bradfords first red river shootout ... McCoy has been here and succeeded already. Longhorns get a bit healthier this week ( save scrambled eggs in mccoys head ) on the defensive side of the ball. Kstate offense really was not all that succesful against the longhorn defense... it was all special teams and turnovers. Oklahoma should clearly be the favorite but Texas can definitely win this game. Not sure you will find too many dogs at this number that are this live.
But the number one reason Texas can beat oklahoma this week is that there will be one really drunk and loud vegaskyle in the stands inspiring their asses to perform. I may get kicked out of the stadium but I will take three sooner fans with me !!! Lonestar beer and a corndog at the state fair !!! hot women everywhere !!! football classic rivalry !!! Hard hits !! hot cheerleaders !!! Fumbles !!! Interceptions !!! spectacular catches !! a few more lonestars !!!! an important fourth down attempt !!!! Smack talking to sooners as they drive up in their houses !!! I cannot wait !!! I am fired up !!! The longhorns will be fired up !!!!!! LETS PLAY SOME FOOTBALL !!
anybody?
usucks:usucks:We have also hired the Oregon Duck to knock over the stupid boomer sooner wagon. BEVO would have done it himself but he plans to spend his time hitting on a few of the oklahoma cheerleaders.
There are a lot of the same players playing in this game as the game they played last year ... a game in which the longhorns won. The players should have some confidence in these matchups. Also , this is Bradfords first red river shootout ... McCoy has been here and succeeded already. Longhorns get a bit healthier this week ( save scrambled eggs in mccoys head ) on the defensive side of the ball. Kstate offense really was not all that succesful against the longhorn defense... it was all special teams and turnovers. Oklahoma should clearly be the favorite but Texas can definitely win this game. Not sure you will find too many dogs at this number that are this live.
But the number one reason Texas can beat oklahoma this week is that there will be one really drunk and loud vegaskyle in the stands inspiring their asses to perform. I may get kicked out of the stadium but I will take three sooner fans with me !!! Lonestar beer and a corndog at the state fair !!! hot women everywhere !!! football classic rivalry !!! Hard hits !! hot cheerleaders !!! Fumbles !!! Interceptions !!! spectacular catches !! a few more lonestars !!!! an important fourth down attempt !!!! Smack talking to sooners as they drive up in their houses !!! I cannot wait !!! I am fired up !!! The longhorns will be fired up !!!!!! LETS PLAY SOME FOOTBALL !!
txbarbarossa
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I can't think of any. I mean if the OU guy doesn't muff a punt at the end, what's the spread in this game? 17?
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