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Just 3 games and Charles talking about Michael Jordan and Bill Cartwright rolling over in their graves/and other bulls insults on Thursday.
Haven't looked at lines/schedule really ... just quick thoughts off top of head before bed.

Gooden went to see a specialist the other day about his abdominal strain. That doesn't sound good at all and the bulls are gonna be without their best player one more time out. Come to think of it really no reason for Drew to rush back from this. Give Tyrus the minutes to show he should stay.
Noch left practice with flu.
This just in ... Larry Hughes is still playing like garbage and Kirk Heinrich is still in the midst of an identity crisis at the 1/2 spot. While Hughes has played like junk of late this is his old team afterall and the fans (if they are called that) who made the infamous website. Could see him having one of his way overdue good games vs a struggling Daniel Gibson.
Kirk is Kirk but Brown is worse in my book of player rankings i have in my head. So i guess i favor the bulls backcourt :seeya:
Deng and Lebron both have been struggling of late. Deng isnt even looking for a shot anymore and still afraid of taking the ball down broadway and drawing contact. So fragile and weak. Fragile and weak are two words i dont associate with Flight 23. Lebron should again own Deng and the Bulls.
Tyrus gonna get a lot of time and a lot of shots (17 last game). Really interested in what he can do vs another solid defensive PF, this time in Sideshow. Love to see more back to basket and facing it ...
As of now Joakim is one of the leaders on this Bulls team. He's been playing his best to date right now. He's giving up a lot of size and brute strength to Big Z tho and thats a major concern.
Another concern here is that Ben Gordon is seeing less and less time because of the fact he is on his way out.
With Z now back to block off the lane and Gordon seeing less time i have worries of how we are going to score tonight. Cavs on the otherhand will have no problem scoring as this bulls team doesnt even play defense at home anymore. Throw in also that we beat the Cavs last time out in a national tv game and i love Lebron and co. to get it done at home.

Lean: Cleveland

Al Thornton is the hottest player in the NBA right now and a name that will be heard from. He can do a lot of things on the court and with good size to boot. JR Smith has taken a back seat to him. Leon Powe is close to breaking my list.
Anyhow, the backcourts are pretty equal here. Clips with the better of the two pgs and Kings the better sg in Garcia. Didnt know Martin was out for Thursday. May have missed an injury he picked up or maybe a CD ...
Would think Gette would do slightly more than Artest here.
Thornton been balling of late. Moore got some real length on him down low.
Brad Miller at C will dominate. Especially, since he was thrown out in the last game.

This line the books opened with Sac -10 stinks. The Clippers love is alive right now. They are playing their best basketball of late, just got Elton back and are 3-0 on the year vs the kings. Winning by margins of 7, 16 and 10! So why do we open at a -10 here with all of that said?
A bet on the clippers here is too much like a bet on the warriors last night.

Dont think brand goes for many minutes tonight in the b2b. The clippers roster is thin right now anyway and with a dog win last night in Seattle and playing a 3rd in 4 tonight i see them not being up to par.

Lean: Sacremento

Houston is regressing to their mean right now. Portland is coming off a loss at Staples to Kobias and Pau.
Alson is an above average pg even tho most wont probably agree with me there. He can stroke it from 3 and run a good show. Blake didnt impress me in the bits i saw of him last night vs Fischer (who is playing thru a foot injury).
McGrady is hurting and its showing. His numbers are way down of late. Webster been playing well of late and he like Powe is right there when it comes to my list of upcoming talent to watch.
Battier will shut down the red hot Outlaw.
Scola been playing well of late but he's up against a tough matchup in Marcus' length and talent tonight.
Joel is worth about 2 Mutomo's right now.

Houston is hurting right now and Portland trying to avoid the broom.

Lean: Portland
 
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Found no word of Martin being out from any other site.

Cle -1.5/Sac -5 (4)

GL.
 
Why is the Kings line bizzarre? I know what your trying to say but think about it . If you follow the patterns AKA previous recent lines what seems out of whack? LAC was just catching 5.5 in Seattle and need a 4th quarter rally to take that GAME against thee WORST 4th quarter team in the NBA this year. So if there 5.5 in SEA whats so strange about 10.5 in Sac?? Hell Kings were just -6 in Seattle. Kings at home are significantly tougher then Seattle is , arent that? Okay so Brands back but he played almost the entire 4th quarter and 26 minutes about 10 more then expected. If the game isnt close I dont think DUnleavy plays him much 2nd H. LAC should be minus Thomas , Mobley and Kaman again. With kaman OUT away they are 1-10 SU as dogs and 5-6 ATS. LAC is 3-15 SU and 8-10 ATS on NO rest this year and has won consecutive games just once since they started 4-0 and they were Home games. Which was alos the last an donlytime they won B2B SU road games. They play there 7th game in 10 days here and have shown improvement coming a hook away from being 5-1 ATS. Meanwhile Kings have 15-5 SU at ARco since the New Year. Granted just 6-7 as chalk and 6-1 ATS as dogs.

Lately I have been saying dont get so carried away with point spreads because its late in the year and alot of teams dealing with tough schedules . Hell I loved Memphis last night at -8 and it was -6 by tip. NYK playing 4 of 5 all away against one of the hottest teams in the NBA. Hottest NON playoff teams that is. LAC played 3 in 4 days Da. SA and Utah on no rest hosted a fatigued Memphis team and won , day off hosted Dallas and lost , day off , travel and win @ Seattle @then go to play Sactown...Kaman played real well vs them adnd so did Tim Thomas could be key losses.


Kings motivation AVOID being swept by the LOWLY LAC in a 4 game season series!! The reason why LAC is having some success of late on the road ATS is there opponents simply dont care about anything that getting an easy win. When you lose 3 straight times to an inferior team you care about final score and playing 48 crisp minutes. Artest and Martin missed the OT loss @ LAC and Martin also missed the 1st meeting...Kings had won 17 straight at ARCO until LAC took the last 2..

Artest has scored 111points L4. KMartin has 119 in his L4 and bewteen 25 and 34 his L5 at home.

L ast few in SAC when Artest played Maggette is something 4-13 , 5-13 and 0-9 from the floor. Factor that with the injuries and such , Brand possibly playing alot less then yesterday , your scoring threat is AL Thornton who is wildly inconsistent on the road of late. Since his breakout game @ Denver he topped twenty for tjust thee third time last nite in 11 away games and scored less then 10 pts in 4 games.

To much attention being paid to Brands return IMO and that causes mispercpetion. Sac's forwards / centers may not be great but SEA has what at the 4 and 5 spots? Rookie Jeff Green , Collison and Petro? Elson off the bench...thast two 6'9 forwards and two 7 foot stiffs...

Like yesterday I really liked Memphis , Houston and LAL laying alot of points. Taking down to -13 went 2-0-1 very key was the fact both Houston and LAL were close at half providing great 2nd H opportunities at -9 hit both of those.....so 4-0-1 play big favs yesterday...

Same approach play SAC for the game about -10 -120 and if its close at half add more on......

BOL all:cheers:
 
The Clippers in one of the home games were up by 12 going into the forth quarter. They added 14 points. I believe this is their 7th game in 10 days. They talked to Miller when he was riding an exercise bike the other day. He said he was thinking about the Clippers. That they had sure beaten up the Kings. The Kings this year beat Atl by 12, GS by 17, Bobcats 14, NJ 34, Utah 10 and Detroit 10. Any real reason for them not to rip the Clippers today? The referees on big spreads break 16-10 to the favorites.
 
Think you have to like Cle -7 today. First is Bulls are 1-9 SU since the Break on the road and 4-6 ATS with 3 ATS wins by 2 pts of the spread( so if they are up at half fade em !). Next is Cle has tremendous depth with there guys getting healthy even if Wallace is unavailable and thats negatated with Goodens probable absence. Chi is simply terrible in the 4th quarter so hope for a close game in which CLE pulls away. Little scared of that today because not sure its that close by then and your gonna need Cavs to probably win by 2 pts. Also ss bad as there tend to be in the 4th quarter they are as good as cashing in the 3rd quarter.

Looking at Cavs -7...Also winning 2 close games vs Philly and Charlotte should start to build somepositive momentum for them. Thanks to foul trouble King James logged just 32 minutes..:cheers:


Scary but again I see value in ROAD CHALK. Really since there big win streak Portland has been pretty bad and sinks to new lows when Roy is out of the lineup. Houston isnt in that different of a spot after there HUGE win streak ended they have struggled mightily since. However two things stand out. First a vet team like Houston I would think responds to tough losses and the 1 pt loss @ Sac qualifies as such IMO. Earlier they lost @ Denver by 1 pt in OT and responded next game with a beatdown at Chicago. Last year they had 3 OT losses which they won and covered the next game but didnt have any regulation 1 pt losses. Second is Houston has struggled but look at there losses home vs Boston , @ NO , won @ GSW , lost @ Pho , and lost @ SA basically there losses were against the top 5 HOTTEST teams in the NBa past few weeks. As I said tough loss @ Sac whic TMac missed a jumper to win it and Arco is not an easy place to win and never has been . Portland is not Sacramento by any stretch. So really while Houston doesnt appear to being playing well they simply are beating they medicore teams w/o Yao and struggling with the elite , is this a suprise or is what we expected when Yao was announced done for the year? Remember we said Portlands big road trip would tell us who they real were ? Since that trip they are I believe 13-20 SU but double check that. have them at 8-8 SU at home and 5-12 SU away and 3-13 ATS at home and 9-8 ATS away. Of the 3 ATS wins at home only Wash laying -1 win by 20 and LAL +6 win by 9 were easy.. With Roy out they are 1-7 SU and 3-4 ATS with 2 close ATS win catching dds and a win at LAC by 2 catching 2 when Kaman was OUT. He missed 8 games and all EIGHT went UNDER. We have seen Port play well for a half 3 times in the past 3 games only to fall apart in the 2ndh . They were down 18 yesterday with 6 to play after being tied at half. They managed a mini run to cut it half though and lost by 13 anyway. They are just 91 for 222 vs Houston from the floor 41% granted two were @ Houston but the worst was the Friday game at home when most of us had backed the Rockets catching 2.

I think the key willbe keeping Port from 2nd chances and keeping they cold from 3 pt land as they stroked 12/27 yesterday to keep them in it. Ming and Roy both played in all three previous meetings. Roy played well in all 3 and ALdridge seemed to struggle which could change with Yao out of the picture.

Bottomline is Houston needs a WIN here and has 3 more easy games after that and can finish the trip 3-2 if they win out vs Port here , LAC and SEA not exactlya tall order. Ports next 5 is Hous , SA , LAL at ho,me @ Sac and hosting Dallas. Blazers who are solid ta home just 1-3 SU and ATS as home dogs in the past 32,33 games since the road trip. Lost vs PHO twice and Boston while ending LALs streak. We saw Roys importance vs Boston when they led at half only to fall aprt w/o him in the 2nd H.

While the UNDER is attractive trendwise not sure there is enough value to take it at 183.

:cheers:
 
Think you have to like Cle -7 today. First is Bulls are 1-9 SU since the Break on the road and 4-6 ATS with 3 ATS wins by 2 pts of the spread( so if they are up at half fade em !). Next is Cle has tremendous depth with there guys getting healthy even if Wallace is unavailable and thats negatated with Goodens probable absence. Chi is simply terrible in the 4th quarter so hope for a close game in which CLE pulls away. Little scared of that today because not sure its that close by then and your gonna need Cavs to probably win by 2 pts. Also ss bad as there tend to be in the 4th quarter they are as good as cashing in the 3rd quarter.

Looking at Cavs -7...Also winning 2 close games vs Philly and Charlotte should start to build somepositive momentum for them. Thanks to foul trouble King James logged just 32 minutes..:cheers:


Scary but again I see value in ROAD CHALK. Really since there big win streak Portland has been pretty bad and sinks to new lows when Roy is out of the lineup. Houston isnt in that different of a spot after there HUGE win streak ended they have struggled mightily since. However two things stand out. First a vet team like Houston I would think responds to tough losses and the 1 pt loss @ Sac qualifies as such IMO. Earlier they lost @ Denver by 1 pt in OT and responded next game with a beatdown at Chicago. Last year they had 3 OT losses which they won and covered the next game but didnt have any regulation 1 pt losses. Second is Houston has struggled but look at there losses home vs Boston , @ NO , won @ GSW , lost @ Pho , and lost @ SA basically there losses were against the top 5 HOTTEST teams in the NBa past few weeks. As I said tough loss @ Sac whic TMac missed a jumper to win it and Arco is not an easy place to win and never has been . Portland is not Sacramento by any stretch. So really while Houston doesnt appear to being playing well they simply are beating they medicore teams w/o Yao and struggling with the elite , is this a suprise or is what we expected when Yao was announced done for the year? Remember we said Portlands big road trip would tell us who they real were ? Since that trip they are I believe 13-20 SU but double check that. have them at 8-8 SU at home and 5-12 SU away and 3-13 ATS at home and 9-8 ATS away. Of the 3 ATS wins at home only Wash laying -1 win by 20 and LAL +6 win by 9 were easy.. With Roy out they are 1-7 SU and 3-4 ATS with 2 close ATS win catching dds and a win at LAC by 2 catching 2 when Kaman was OUT. He missed 8 games and all EIGHT went UNDER. We have seen Port play well for a half 3 times in the past 3 games only to fall apart in the 2ndh . They were down 18 yesterday with 6 to play after being tied at half. They managed a mini run to cut it half though and lost by 13 anyway. They are just 91 for 222 vs Houston from the floor 41% granted two were @ Houston but the worst was the Friday game at home when most of us had backed the Rockets catching 2.

I think the key willbe keeping Port from 2nd chances and keeping they cold from 3 pt land as they stroked 12/27 yesterday to keep them in it. Ming and Roy both played in all three previous meetings. Roy played well in all 3 and ALdridge seemed to struggle which could change with Yao out of the picture.

Bottomline is Houston needs a WIN here and has 3 more easy games after that and can finish the trip 3-2 if they win out vs Port here , LAC and SEA not exactlya tall order. Ports next 5 is Hous , SA , LAL at ho,me @ Sac and hosting Dallas. Blazers who are solid ta home just 1-3 SU and ATS as home dogs in the past 32,33 games since the road trip. Lost vs PHO twice and Boston while ending LALs streak. We saw Roys importance vs Boston when they led at half only to fall aprt w/o him in the 2nd H.

While the UNDER is attractive trendwise not sure there is enough value to take it at 183.

:cheers:
 
Wrong forum but anyone looking at the NIT game?

I was gonna play UMASS at +4 -120 but just got hit down to 2.5 most places...

Looking at the entire season UMASS traveled better IMO winning @ Cuse which is tough especilaly since it was early and they were healthier and they played real well @ Vandy. Ohio State biggest road wins seemed to bethe MSG games vs CUse and Ole Miss. Neither really defend well. UMass has played some defense in the 2nd H . UMass pulled 2 huge games out there asses and would have won 11 straight had they not choked away the A-10 game vs Charlotte up 19 at half. They have THREE 5th year seniors , a bunch og NYC area guys and Ford is coaching his last game @ UMass. Seems like the perfect spot to leave it all on teh floor for everyone @ UMASS because they aint coming back !

UMass obviously doesnt have the big game experience like some Ohio State guys do nor the size. Both struggled from 3 pt land recently and to me shot selction has always been Ohio States downfall...

What to do...:cheers:
 
0-1 -4.8

Thank you cavs for not giving a shit once you got up 17, ben wallace missing 2 fts and a wide open dunk late and most importantly mike brown for even having wallace in the game.
 
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I didnt expect Wallace to play either...

Cavs -6.5 -120 {2u}L
Over 197 {2u} W
Over 99 2nd H {2u} Push 62 points to start the 4thq !
Bulls +1 {1u} W

Went from liek +7 to +0.5 !!
 
EHS49 said:
2nd half plays in lac SN?
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Kings for sure especially at that gross number...and probably the over 103.5...

Kings have the momentum and the way I see it if LAC can play that well and SAC that porrly and still not cover +6 they wont cover the smaller 2nd H number. Kimgs O starting to heat up as well...

:shake:
 
WOW ! Worst loss ever ! Houston -2 up 23-19 with 17 secs left Alrdidge tips itin with 1 sec left and hits the FT! ...
 
Lost both because Houston missed a FT with 55 secs left 23-19 at that point and no one scored till 1 second...5 units bye bye
 
well i took your thoughts and hedged out of LAC and took sac -4 so -11 for game and over 102.5. already cashed under 106 first half. gl to me. hope you are right.
 
Today has been a bad combination of playing small on heavy favs on baseballs and winning them all , making stupid decisions on totals in MLB , and terrible luck on those 1st Q plays..I least win something if Houston covers...Pretty untrusting of my own advice...
 
seeing now for first time cavs only scored 13 pts in the 4th q vs bulls at home. lol.
 
Well lost some vig as HOU 1st H and 1st H over hit....sad to have a game so tight an actually lose some vig on it...think I said it would be 52-41 at half ands it 52-43.....craZy !!
 
Think 2nd H under game has to slow down its been a trend for both specifically Port...high scoring 1st H's around 100pts and 2nd Hs around 90...

not sure of a side but like I said huge game for Hous not much value in Port seems like they are asking for me PORT dough IMO...

So Under 89 slightily more then Hous 2nd H but not sure I am playing it because I have Hou -6 game and 3rd and 4th q unders as well..
 
Played the UNDER 89...gives me the original game total of 184... was expecting like 95-83 before the game tipped...
 
Okay fellow degenerates...

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I am all over the place taking one at time...Rockets problem is 6 points so far in the 3rd quarter but it helps my 3rd q and 2nd H under to a degree...
 
Kings squeak by 110-98..all you UNDER guys got paid and us SAC backers are smiling...2nd H over was to easy...

Lets go Rockets and defense !!
 
Crazy how tight I had that Rockets game and thanks to 1 bucket I only profited +1.50 maybe +2units on it...Kings got me nearly 5 units though....sloppy past 6 days for me continually giving money away on stupid forced plays and nailing games that I really like...after that 1st Q , I was down about 16 units today and finished down 5 units...stupid 3 units pissed away on the 2nd H NIT game , 3 units pissed away on the PODS game and who knows what else...sad..

Houston game breakdown...
Hous 1st Q -2 led by 1 -2.30
Hou 1st Q Over 46 finished at 45 -1.80
Hous 2nd Q -1.5 won by 8 +0.75
Hous 1st H -3.5 led by 9 +2.00
Hous 1st H Over 90 finished on 95 +0.75
Hous 3rd Q Under 44.5 +0.75
Hous 4th Q Under 44.5 +0.75
Hous -6 game +2.00
Under 180 Hous -1.10
Under 89 2nd H +0.75

SAC -9.5 -120 +2.50
Sac -4 2nd H +1.25
Over 103 2nd H +1.00

Alridge hits a layup and 1 to cost me the 1st Q and Alridge hits a 3 with 10 secs left to take away my under...he misses game over...

And then there was the BULLS game..

If I was only a rich man the things I could do....:36_11_6:
 
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