Sunday "Blue jays have no pitching" discussion thread

[Gyno]

Sunday

 

[Hollywood Beaker]

Jays lead the majors in runs per game with 5.2 but are a mere 17-21. THAT, alone, just tells you how bad their pitching has been.

And then the 2nd worst ERA in the league confirms it.

Contrary to what some might have thought (including myself) their pen only had an ERA of 3.71 going into Saturday's game. It's their STARTING pitching that has the ERA of 5.34. :hang:

 

[nbafan88]

Dodgers TT over

 

[SerfCap]

Jays lead the majors in runs per game with 5.2 but are a mere 17-21. THAT, alone, just tells you how bad their pitching has been.

And then the 2nd worst ERA in the league confirms it.

Contrary to what some might have thought (including myself) their pen only had an ERA of 3.71 going into Saturday's game. It's their STARTING pitching that has the ERA of 5.34. :hang:

Both units are garbage. ERA can be misleading in this case though, because some of these bullpen guys come in with inherited runners and when the bases are cleared because someone like Cecil throws a meatball right across the plate, all the runs get charged to the starter.

I've stopped betting Blue Jay games because they've burned me many times already this early into the season, whether I bet with or against them. They're a hard win.

 

[2daBank]

seems i like losing with the fish everyday, why not again? they should hit miller, all he throws is fastballs and this be 3rd time they seen him this year. i know they can hit him, i watched mia light him up when he pitched for cards last yr. im waiting on playing it cause feel like anyone backing this team should get discount.

 

[tuck321]

Oakland has won 1 game in the day and is a listed favorite
Just what is Strasburg's health situation. I understand who has the better team but?

 

[SerfCap]

Any reason to stop betting the Twins? Team is cholk-full of smart hitters sans Hicks and Archer seems like a guy Minnesota will hit and go deep into counts on. Gibson continues to stay under the radar and has been more than serviceable.

 

[goldengreek]

Any reason to stop betting the Twins? Team is cholk-full of smart hitters sans Hicks and Archer seems like a guy Minnesota will hit and go deep into counts on. Gibson continues to stay under the radar and has been more than serviceable.

A nice spot to fade Gibson tomorrow, talk about a guy screaming for regression. Only 17 K's, in 43.1 IP, speaks to his true lack of stuff.
He just can't miss bats, eventually the BABIP gods will catch up to him. Can't have continued success with K rate that low.

 

[2daBank]

Oakland has won 1 game in the day and is a listed favorite
Just what is Strasburg's health situation. I understand who has the better team but?

pissed i slept on it and lost so much off the chisox number, no freaking clue where they came up with that number? forget the fact oak is terrible, just the matchup and cws success against kaz (and lefties in general of late), to me says this line is inflated, even now after the drop. dont love shark during the day and not a huge fan of betting on a sweep, especially with a cws team that been pretty awful on the road. those mild concerns dont outweigh the positive imo, hoping line creeps back up a little but dont see anyway im not on sox here..

pads have been so miserable this series that it tough to bet them. ive been a subscriber to fading stras since his rookie year tho. problem is this the worst price i recall getting in doing so. fading him been mostly based off the fact he generally overpriced, his recent form seems to have been enough to finally get some of that unwarranted respect off the line. i gotta look more cause pads havnt even been close in these gms. something obviously wrong with him but not sure it anything more than his fragile psyche..

 

[tuck321]

A nice spot to fade Gibson tomorrow, talk about a guy screaming for regression. Only 17 K's, in 43.1 IP, speaks to his true lack of stuff.
He just can't miss bats, eventually the BABIP gods will catch up to him. Can't have continued success with K rate that low.

Gibson is much worse in the day. 6.75 ERA. Re the lack of strikeouts. Means a little but not a lot to me. Many good pitchers pitch to contact and win

 

[tuck321]

Not sure what happened to a fairly strong lean to Giants. The combo of Pense back who got 3 huts last night and Reds 3-7 day record--still thinking but DeS 3.50 ERA on 4 days does not impress. Giants clearly remember the Reds winning 4 in a row at SF last year

 

[2daBank]

is there anywhere one can find m's lineup history against a knuckle ball? im all bout fading sox against lhp but at this price i gotta know sea can in fact hit a knuckle baller..

 

[2daBank]

Gibson is much worse in the day. 6.75 ERA. Re the lack of strikeouts. Means a little but not a lot to me. Many good pitchers pitch to contact and win

loshe comes to mind, advanced metrics have always hated him yet he been a quality pitcher for years..

 

[tuck321]

By the way. Kaz has a ERA with the ump of 7.13 over 24 innings

 

[2daBank]

By the way. Kaz has a ERA with the ump of 7.13 over 24 innings

3-6 5.35 era vs cws, and they been crushing lhp of late..

 

[tuck321]

In the Mets game after yesterday i have an urge to play them with the losing streak toast in a day game but I have no idea how their pitcher does in day games and Milwaukee pitcher is solid with good history. Thoughts?

 

[tuck321]

Any input on Baltimore pitcher. Baltimore has shown nothing for some time wasting a quality start by Ubaldo last night but actually are good in day games. Baltimore will not be a bet for me but input could make me comfortable with an Angels bet. Covers has no umpire info in this game.

 

[SerfCap]

A nice spot to fade Gibson tomorrow, talk about a guy screaming for regression. Only 17 K's, in 43.1 IP, speaks to his true lack of stuff.
He just can't miss bats, eventually the BABIP gods will catch up to him. Can't have continued success with K rate that low.

This is interesting as well, because Gibson had a much much higher strikeout rate the last last season.

 

[2daBank]

muts gm was easy pass for me, hard to lay juice on them with a young pitcher that most likely wont get a lot of run support. dont know enough about the kid pitching for muts, the walks were a bit concerning in his 1st start but he has posted consistent walk rates throughout his minor league career so very well could have been nerves in wrigley. he certainly has the stuff but ultimately i just cant lay juice with a team that is as offensively challenged as the muts, so most days i either am against muts or pass..

 

[tuck321]

Minn in the day averages a little over 4.5 runs. At home would guess higher This total is suspect
Houston averages 5 and 2-7th runs in the day,.
Toronto 6.5
Tampa about 3 and a third
Mets 4.8
Toronto on Sunday 1-4
Houston 4-1
Oakland 1-4
WS 3-2
Angels 1-4 but when a team is marching not sure it matters

 

[2daBank]

seems i like losing with the fish everyday, why not again? they should hit miller, all he throws is fastballs and this be 3rd time they seen him this year. i know they can hit him, i watched mia light him up when he pitched for cards last yr. im waiting on playing it cause feel like anyone backing this team should get discount.

i have really grown fond of the over here as well. i just dont believe that shelby gonna shut these guys down again. alverez making his 1st start back off dl so really not sure what we get out of him, id think atl will plate a few at least and cant imagine he goes real deep into the gm. think the upside is far greater than 7..

 

[nbafan88]

Dodgers TT Over 4.5 -120

Kendrick @ Dodgers

[h=4]Year-by-Year: LAD-Dodger Stad[/h] Click year to see all splits · SHARE using Permanent Link

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[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: center"]I[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc show_partial_when_sorting, align: left"]Year[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]W[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]L[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]<nobr>W-L%</nobr>[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]ERA[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]G[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GS[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]CG[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SHO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SV[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]H[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]R[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]ER[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HR[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IBB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HBP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BK[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]WP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]WHIP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SO9[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SO/W[/TH]
[/TR]
</thead> <tbody> [TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2007[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.44[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.313[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2008[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18.90[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.600[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.00[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2010[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.600[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.00[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2011[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.00[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2012[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.00[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2013[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.00[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.833[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.00[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2014[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.18[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.941[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.00[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2015[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11.57[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.357[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.50[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody> <tfoot> [TR="class: stat_total"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Career Total[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].429[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.91[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]54[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]161[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.939[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.70[/TD]
[/TR]
</tfoot>[/TABLE]


much worse day pitcher than night but this can also be because of day games at coors... so you never know...

Rays TT Over 3.5 -125

Gibson is much worse during day games

[h=4]Year-by-Year: Day[/h] Click year to see all splits · SHARE using Permanent Link

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<colgroup><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col></colgroup> <thead> [TR]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: center"]I[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc show_partial_when_sorting, align: left"]Year[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]W[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]L[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]<nobr>W-L%</nobr>[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]ERA[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]G[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GS[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]CG[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SHO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SV[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]H[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]R[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]ER[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HR[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IBB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HBP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BK[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]WP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]WHIP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SO9[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SO/W[/TH]
[/TR]
</thead> <tbody> [TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2013[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].400[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.75[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]36.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]51[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]171[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.806[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.43[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2014[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].545[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]68.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]64[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]34[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]45[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]284[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.238[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.14[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2015[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.75[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]52[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.969[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.38[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody> <tfoot> [TR="class: stat_total"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Career Total[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].471[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.31[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]115.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]128[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]70[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]68[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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and he's struggled mightly vs the rays

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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.98[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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also like that both these teams are trying to avoid being swept


everything except the wind is pointing to the under in wrigley but the wind dictates totals there and thats why its set at 10.5... starters both have great splits... it'll most likely come down to the bullpens giving up runs... will look to take an ingame over around the 3rd or 4th inning depending on how the starters are doing

 

[Inspekdah]

Martinez for the Rangers is slowly regressing. His ERA remains stable because runs coming in are unearned but he's still allowing timely hits and not making it very far into games. The Rangers pen has a 4.82 ERA and was used a lot yesterday. What's the deal with Carrasco can I expect a good outing here? Indians I think are warming up and OWN THE RANGERS

 

[tuck321]

Atlanta is 19-6 over vs divisional opponents last 3 years
If I am reading the info correctly 8-3 over last 11 day games.

 

[tuck321]

Martinez for the Rangers is slowly regressing. His ERA remains stable because runs coming in are unearned but he's still allowing timely hits and not making it very far into games. The Rangers pen has a 4.82 ERA and was used a lot yesterday. What's the deal with Carrasco can I expect a good outing here? Indians I think are warming up and OWN THE RANGERS

The fact that Cleveland was able to win consecutive games says a lot. Need to look more but like them.

 

[Inspekdah]

Reds crappy day team vs. a resurgent Giants squad that could be the best team in baseball a month from now? Would be ideal to ride them if you believe that's the case? Lineup is pretty deep w/ both Pence and Pagan. They've never really had those 2.

 

[tuck321]

Played Dodgers team total overr with Nbafan. A little worried based on their dropping run production but it should explode today I think

 

[GameHunter]

Reds crappy day team vs. a resurgent Giants squad that could be the best team in baseball a month from now? Would be ideal to ride them if you believe that's the case? Lineup is pretty deep w/ both Pence and Pagan. They've never really had those 2.

FYI, Pagan not in lineup today.

 

[tuck321]

Ian Kenned with ump
24 innings 1.50 ERA won the 2 home games easily.

 

[nbafan88]

also played A's TT over 4 even... another team trying to avoid the sweep

Samardzija's pitched well last year for the A's but he's struggled away from home this year... hopefully that continues... dont feel as strongly about this as the others

also on clippers moneyline

 

[nbafan88]

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[TD="class: dg-d"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]2[/TD]
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[TD="class: dg-d"]10[/TD]
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[TD="class: dg-ops"].737[/TD]
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[TR="class: odd"]
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[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]182[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]48[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]2[/TD]
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[TD="class: dg-r"]22[/TD]
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[TD="class: dg-d"]10[/TD]
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[TD="class: dg-slg stripey"].401[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops stripey"].708[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Oakland Athletics[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]AL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]173[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].254[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].330[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].428[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].758[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Seattle Mariners[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]AL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]178[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]31[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]45[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]27[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]33[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].253[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].328[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].444[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].772[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Washington Nationals[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]NL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]164[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]40[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]40[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].244[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].328[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].348[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].676[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]San Diego Padres[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]NL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]161[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]39[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]32[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].242[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].307[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].472[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].779[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: dg-rank stripey"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full stripey"]Kansas City Royals[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league stripey"]AL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g stripey"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab stripey"]171[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r stripey"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h stripey"]41[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d stripey"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t stripey"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr stripey"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi stripey"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb stripey"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so stripey"]35[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb stripey"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs stripey"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg stripey active"].240[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp stripey"].281[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg stripey"].386[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops stripey"].667[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Philadelphia Phillies[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]NL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]174[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]41[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]41[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].236[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].295[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].339[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].634[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Toronto Blue Jays[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]AL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]167[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]37[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].228[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].312[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].371[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].683[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Milwaukee Brewers[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]NL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]168[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]37[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].226[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].284[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].387[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].671[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Cincinnati Reds[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]NL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]175[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]39[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]48[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].223[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].313[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].320[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].633[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: dg-rank stripey"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full stripey"]Texas Rangers[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league stripey"]AL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g stripey"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab stripey"]198[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r stripey"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h stripey"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d stripey"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t stripey"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr stripey"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi stripey"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb stripey"]31[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so stripey"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb stripey"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs stripey"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg stripey active"].222[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp stripey"].346[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg stripey"].308[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops stripey"].654[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]26[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Los Angeles Angels[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]AL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]168[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]37[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].220[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].271[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].321[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].592[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]27[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Boston Red Sox[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]AL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]171[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]37[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].216[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].308[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].404[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].711[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Arizona Diamondbacks[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]NL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]169[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]35[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].207[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].264[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].296[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].560[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: dg-rank"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full"]Houston Astros[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league"]AL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab"]177[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg active"].203[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp"].295[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg"].379[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops"].674[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: dg-rank stripey"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-team_full stripey"]Chicago Cubs[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-league stripey"]NL[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-g stripey"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ab stripey"]205[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-r stripey"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-h stripey"]39[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-d stripey"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-t stripey"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-hr stripey"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-rbi stripey"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-bb stripey"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-so stripey"]64[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-sb stripey"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-cs stripey"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-avg stripey active"].190[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-obp stripey"].250[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-slg stripey"].293[/TD]
[TD="class: dg-ops stripey"].543[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]


Sunday stats.... gotta be taken with a huge grain of salt although imo the batting average is the best indicator

 

[Gyno]

Went with braves as doggies.

Shelby has been studly and Alvarez first real game in a while.

Value

 

[nbafan88]

[TABLE="class: tablehead"]
<tbody>[TR="class: stathead"]
[TD="colspan: 13"]Pittsburgh Pirates Career statistics vs. Jake Arrieta[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: colhead"]
[TD]BATTER[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]AB[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]H[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2B[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]3B[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]HR[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]RBI[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]BB[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]SO[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]AVG[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]OBP[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]SLG[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]OPS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow player-10-29962"]
[TD]Pedro Alvarez[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].091[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].091[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].364[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].455[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow player-10-29273"]
[TD]Francisco Cervelli[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow player-10-30934"]
[TD]Josh Harrison[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow player-10-33689"]
[TD]Jung Ho Kang[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow player-10-31028"]
[TD]Andrew Lambo[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow player-10-31996"]
[TD]Steve Lombardozzi[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].333[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].600[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].333[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].933[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow player-10-30830"]
[TD]Starling Marte[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].400[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].500[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].400[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].900[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow player-10-28701"]
[TD]Andrew McCutchen[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].429[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].467[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].571[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1.038[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow player-10-32950"]
[TD]Gregory Polanco[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].333[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].333[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].333[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].667[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow player-10-30584"]
[TD]Tony Sanchez[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow player-10-29488"]
[TD]Justin Sellers[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].500[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].000[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].500[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow player-10-29590"]
[TD]Neil Walker[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].133[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].133[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].200[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].333[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow bi"]
[TD]Totals[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]69[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].188[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].243[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].275[/TD]
[TD="class: textright"].519[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

 

[tuck321]

In the Houston game I am waiting on a review of the game by a Toronto poster who has been very accurate on Toronto games but Houston has swept 4 teams already this season. Pitching seems down but hitting booming.

 

[Inspekdah]

Braves bats stink if it wasn't for Latos donating 5 runs they pretty much got shut down after that,

 

[BJPLAYER]

Oakland has won 1 game in the day and is a listed favorite
Just what is Strasburg's health situation. I understand who has the better team but?

i think they announced that stras had an arm problem after his last start....he has gotten hammered in his last two and it very well could be an arm issue...very difficult to bet nats with him on the mound

 

[tuck321]

Went with braves as doggies.

Shelby has been studly and Alvarez first real game in a while.

Value

Not sure I do not agree.
It should be noted that the only time Alvarez pitched with this ump the opponents were shutout.

 

[D-Woww]

Bolsinger shouldnt be laying 2 to 1 to anyone

 

[BJPLAYER]

is there anywhere one can find m's lineup history against a knuckle ball? im all bout fading sox against lhp but at this price i gotta know sea can in fact hit a knuckle baller..

not sure anyone can hit a knuckler when they are throwing it well but not sure it matters....pax has turned his slow start around and has pitched very well in his last few starts....wright is untested and onknown...the way i am looking at it is that the mariners are only going to need 3 runs to win this game and the way the sox have been hitting i can't see them getting more than 1 or 2....contrarian would be that seattle isn't hitting right now either

 

[nbafan88]

why the hell is the total in philly dropping.... now I see 8 with nearly 80% on the over

collmenter is a extreme fly ball pitcher and has struggled at philly in the past

dont know what to make of the line move... could just be bait to get to contrarian action

 

[hugh613]

is there anywhere one can find m's lineup history against a knuckle ball? im all bout fading sox against lhp but at this price i gotta know sea can in fact hit a knuckle baller..

Given the age of most of the lineup, the only guys most of them would have faced are either Tim Wakefield or RA Dickey.

 

[SerfCap]

why the hell is the total in philly dropping.... now I see 8 with nearly 80% on the over

collmenter is a extreme fly ball pitcher and has struggled at philly in the past

dont know what to make of the line move... could just be bait to get to contrarian action

As with 2dabank and the fish, the Diamondbacks are a team I keep playing and keep losing. I went with them yet again today. Fool me once yada yada haha...Collmenter overall has been serviceable. His last start was a disaster though. That coupled with Philly somehow having won 4 in a row, I think sets this line where it is. Today's game I'm looking for a 'correction in the market,' if you will.

 

[austinhous]

Thought the same thing NBA. Each bullpen has gotten a good amount of work the last two days for AZ@PHI. Since 2009 OSullivan is 4-7 SU (0-7 SU L7) and 9-1-1 O/U (9-0-1 O/U L10) when his team used more than four pitchers in the previous game. Huge majority on the over yet the total has dropped a full run.

The thing that might be at play is, remember how Collmenter stepped up and went CGSO @SF back on the 17th? The D-Backs' bullpen was shot from the previous two days of work, a situation not unlike today.

 

[tuck321]

Read this
Mike Wright (RHP - BAL)
Mike Wright, 25, has been given his first call-up while Jason Garcia spends time on the disabled list with shoulder tendinitis. Wright was a third-round draft pick in 2011 and has slowly worked his way through the Orioles organization since. Wright uses his 6’6" height to work downhill on his pitches, including an above-average mid-90s mph fastball. His slider and change-up are also quality offerings, and an occasional curveball gets mixed in. He throws lots of strikes and works aggressively within the strike zone. Hitters can have a hard time picking up pitches out of his hand with the downward angle from a ¾ arm slot. Wright has done a nice job of limiting walks and home runs, but could become more effective by getting hitters to chase his slider off the plate when ahead in the count. With his solid arsenal, physicality, and health history, Wright has all the makings of a strong mid-rotation workhorse at maturity. Over 478 career minor-league innings, he owns a 2.64 ERA and 1.32 WHIP. This kid may be here to stay and is definitely worth watching

 

[nbafan88]

but pitching at SF and pitching at philly with the wind blowing out are two VERY different things when you're an extreme fly ball pitcher

 

[hugh613]

but pitching at SF and pitching at philly with the wind blowing out are two VERY different things when you're an extreme fly ball pitcher

Where do you see wind blowing out? Covers says "There will also be a six mile per hour wind blowing across the field from third base to first."

 

[nbafan88]

Where do you see wind blowing out? Covers says "There will also be a six mile per hour wind blowing across the field from third base to first."

this is the only source that should be used for weather imo

http://dailybaseballdata.com/cgi-bin/weather.pl

don't trust covers for anything that is fluid like weather

 

[nbafan88]

regardless of the wind... SF is one of the most pitcher friendly ballparks


actually just checked and philly is not that far behind when it comes to being pitcher friendly... bit surprising...

 

[austinhous]

I was more saying that Collmenter stepped up in a major way and went 9 IP when they needed him to.

 

[KJ]

Anyone who has ever watched Collmenter pitch, he is 100% about deception, guys can either hit him or they can't

Same arm angle with his pitches, his stuff isn't great at all, it's all about patience