Sunday 03/06/16 NBA discussion thread

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The Spurs can suck my manhood
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-16.5 1.934[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.020[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Los Angeles Lakers[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+16.5 1.970[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 22.730[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-7 1.925[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.327[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Over 216.5 1.934[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Milwaukee Bucks [/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+7 1.980[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 3.690[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Under 216.5 1.970[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesDate, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Sun 3/6[/TD]
[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]825[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Phoenix Suns[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+10.5 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 6.520[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Over 207.5 1.909[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Memphis Grizzlies[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-10.5 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.148[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Under 207.5 2.000[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]827[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Dallas Mavericks[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-3.5 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.636[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Over 210.5 2.000[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Denver Nuggets[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+3.5 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 2.420[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Under 210.5 1.909[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-1 2.000[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Detroit Pistons[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+1 1.909[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Under 205.5 1.980[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]831[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Philadelphia 76ers[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+14.5 1.900[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Miami Heat[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-14.5 2.009[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.045[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-7 1.934[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.338[/TD]
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First leans:

Under in Miami. Miami 60% in Under favors since LBJ left, playing at home off an Over. They are 1O - 7U in those spots, if the total is more than 200 points and 0O and 6U, playing at home off an Over, when the previous game's total was 200+ points.

Thunder SU and maybe ATS as well. Thunder off two straight losses are 5 - 1 SU this season (3 - 3 ATS), winning all of the last 5 games in this spot. They are 25 - 5 SU as a favorite off two straight losses and 5 - 0 this season.

If Kobe plays, maybe Lakers ATS. GSW off big win against the Thunder, Iggy is probably out, Curry is questionable and the line still will be huge. Lakers got a very bad beating by 29 points at home in their last game, so if Kobe plays, they should play hard and given the fact that GSW play B2B the next day, they can hang on to 10+ points spread.

On a good day, Nuggets can still see the 8th spot, but it's getting away from them. On the other hand, I'm sure that Dallas wants to play Thunder and not the Spurs in the first round, so they need that 6th seed (especially if Clips get there somehow). Dallas off a very very very bad game against the Kings, so we can expect some bounce back.

Portland off two straight losses, but they weren't the same. Blowout loss against Boston and last second loss against the Raptors are not the same thing - though not sure which hurt more. Detroit made a huge comeback in Portland to win 103 - 120, winning the 4th quarter 41 - 11 (!!!!). That's from down 13 points to start the quarter to 17 points margin to win it... Portland surely remember that game, but Pistons need the win, after the laydown in MSG, losing without putting up a fight. Pistons are 4 - 1 SU and ATS as favorites playing off a loss as a favorite this season (winning the last four). Probably a skip, since Portland needs this one, but a lean to the Pistons.

Memphis very strong lean. Suns off a win, very rare occasion and one that they simply can't afford to repeat. Memphis lost to the Suns a week ago, so they should play strong. Doubt I want to lay so many points, but in a teaser... should be a solid bet...
 
lean GS-LAL U223: last 3 meetings this seasons went Under. if kobe plays sunday will probably make a small bet on LAK+16.5. GS has a B2B tomorrow and off a letdown win vs OKC. lakers don't want to get blown out on sunday night tv after 3 previous blowouts. they can keep it relatively close
 
lean GS-LAL U223: last 3 meetings this seasons went Under. if kobe plays sunday will probably make a small bet on LAK+16.5. GS has a B2B tomorrow and off a letdown win vs OKC. lakers don't want to get blown out on sunday night tv after 3 previous blowouts. they can keep it relatively close

"letdown win"

:rofl:
 
Played Under 212.5 in Miami, Dallas -3 and teased Oklahoma -2 (with Cleveland last night). Also took Memphis + Oklahoma + Dallas ML parlay for 2.40 odds - small bet.
 
i love how divol still can be a laker homer even when they are one of the worst teams in the world lol
like kobe matters at all
if GSt wants to win by 35 they will with or without kobe for cying out loud
 
I disagree. Lakers with Kobe look a lot better the last two months, than without him. The stats are hard to argue with...
 
problem with Lakers all season is defense (thanks Byron) and no paint defense, Kobe does not fix that. Problem lately is injuries.

If 2 of 3...Clarkson, Lou, and Kobe don't play 20 min, Lakers don't have enough offense to cover games.
 
Lakers also depend on opponents' lax defense in order to complete many of their passes and in order to penetrate to the basket off the dribble. If a competent defensive team clamps down on them, they will collapse into a heap of turnovers, until the defense loosens up again. The role that Kobe plays in this is that he may turn the ball over because of his own stupidity, but nobody is going to pressure him into turning the ball over, or into a complete collapse.

I remember one time this season the cameras showed Kerr talking in a huddle during the third quarter, asking the team to give him good hard defense for the last 5 minutes of the quarter. The Warriors lead increased by about a dozen points during those minutes (could well have been vs Lakers) But it's hard to figure out how many minutes of good defense Warriors will want to put out today.
 
I disagree. Lakers with Kobe look a lot better the last two months, than without him. The stats are hard to argue with...
Since January 5th (ie. the last two months), the Lakers are 4-24 SU with a -10.6 point differential. During that time, Kobe's shot 36.6% with an average of 15.5 shots per game. During that same time, the Lakers have shot 41.6% as a team averaging 83.5 shots per game. Subtract Kobe from the mix and that number probably goes up to somewhere near 44-45%.

Basic Game Log (1310th Career Game to 1330th Career Game)


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[TD="align: left"]2016-03-02[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].366[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].297[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].838[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.7[/TD]
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Basic Game Log (36th Season Game to 63rd Season Game)


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[TD="align: left"]2016-01-05[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-03-04[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]98.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]109.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]34.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]83.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].416[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].323[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26.9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].781[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]42.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20.0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]84.9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].489[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].364[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].743[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]45.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.6[/TD]
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You're right, the stats are hard to argue with...
 
Since 01.02.16

With Kobe:
2-8 (-5.10, 20.0%)
7-3-0 (5.00, 70.0%) avg line: 10.1
7-2-1 (12.00, 77.8%) avg total: 207.7

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[TH="align: center"]season = 2015 and 0 < Lakers:Kobe Bryant:minutes and month in [2 , 3][/TH]

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Without Kobe:
1-2 (-13.33, 33.3%)
1-2-0 (-8.17, 33.3%) avg line: 5.2
0-3-0 (-9.67, 0.0%) avg total: 209.0

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[TH="align: center"]ATS:[/TH]

[TH="align: center"]O/U:[/TH]

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[TH="align: center"]season = 2015 and 0 = Lakers:Kobe Bryant:minutes and month in [2 , 3][/TH]

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I don't think you're query's right divol (unless I'm reading it wrong). Since January 2nd, Kobe's started 21 games and missed 7.
 
Hugh...its since Feb 1st....divol writes day, month, year style instead of month, day, year. can be confusing at times.
So his 01.02.2016 = Feb 01, 2016
 
Kobe Bryant (shoulder) is warming up to play against the Warriors on Sunday.

His shoulder may be an issue for the remainder of the season, but it sounds like he is going to give it a go today. The Lakers are expected to update his status very soon, so stay tuned for an update.
 
Jordan Clarkson (knee) will start on Sunday vs. the Warriors.

He only missed one game due to his knee, so that means his injury must be pretty minor. With Lou Williams (hamstring) out, Clarkson is looking at heavy minutes today and his owners should get him back into their lineups. Nick Young will head back to the bench.
 
Bucks btw are 1 - 6 ATS and SU at home, as home dog, playing off a win this season:


1-6 (-11.71, 14.3%)
1-6-0 (-8.14, 14.3%) avg line: 3.6
3-4-0 (-1.79, 42.9%) avg total: 199.2

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[TH="align: center"]SU:[/TH]

[TH="align: center"]ATS:[/TH]

[TH="align: center"]O/U:[/TH]

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[TH="align: center"]season = 2015 and team = Bucks and H and p:W and D[/TH]

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LAK are 12-1 U/O this season when kobe is out! sick!

just gonna take PHI-MIA under with over crew in LA and kobe in
 
Thanks guys, the point of the thread is to help myself and others to find solid bets...
 
I many times noticed that when I have to write reasons for the bet, it helps to focus and sort out things...
 
The warriors being favored by that much vs anyone OTR is ridiculous, including the Lakers. They play wreckless and stupid basketball with big leads... just because Kobe is playing doesn't mean it will be significant minutes.... although it should be considering the circumstances... pass
 
Wow warriors wtf. Need to get up for the shitty teams too, not just the good ones. Horrible loss.
 
Something more sinister than 'where amazing happens', imo.

Glad I laid off today, would have played CHOKC.
 
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