Could have been a tricky year for this if a few things play out
Isnt one of them just a fan? Billingsley I think, everyone else was an algorithm created and he just ranked teams?Man, I really loved the BCS and I really hate what it is now.
I forget all the details, but after 2003, they changed the BCS formula because the humans weren't getting the results they wanted. So did they add an additional weight on the human poll or add an additional human poll to have more influence over the computers. The computers were great, they used 6 I think, and you throw out each computer's high and low score and averaged the remaining for to try and get any wide variance out of it.
They are only using 5 computers here. They are missing Anderson, but I just looked and Anderson doesn't have ratings for this year yet.
I thought it was 2011 that broke the BCS because the computers said the two best teams were LSU and Alabama.Man, I really loved the BCS and I really hate what it is now.
I forget all the details, but after 2003, they changed the BCS formula because the humans weren't getting the results they wanted. So did they add an additional weight on the human poll or add an additional human poll to have more influence over the computers. The computers were great, they used 6 I think, and you throw out each computer's high and low score and averaged the remaining for to try and get any wide variance out of it.
They are only using 5 computers here. They are missing Anderson, but I just looked and Anderson doesn't have ratings for this year yet.
I miss Michigan and Nebraska both being champsMan, I really loved the BCS and I really hate what it is now.
I forget all the details, but after 2003, they changed the BCS formula because the humans weren't getting the results they wanted. So did they add an additional weight on the human poll or add an additional human poll to have more influence over the computers. The computers were great, they used 6 I think, and you throw out each computer's high and low score and averaged the remaining for to try and get any wide variance out of it.
They are only using 5 computers here. They are missing Anderson, but I just looked and Anderson doesn't have ratings for this year yet.
I miss Michigan and Nebraska both being champs
I miss Colorado and Georgia Tech both being champs
That stuff delivered much more exciting drama than this idiotic set up
Specifically why none of these Spring/Summer leagues will ever survive. There's always too much of something at a point. Covering NFL 365 days a year has led me to not watch anything other than the games themselves, and the same can be said about CFB.I feel like MW does, we don't necessarily need to have a system that delivers us Michigan vs Nebraska or Colorado vs Georgia Tech (or UCF vs Clemson)...
The emphasis on the playoff and national title has undermined the structure of the game, it is the be all end all and really nothing else matters. Give lip service to the importance of winning one's league, but it doesn't mean anything. The playoff is all that matters now and it is only getting worse with every idea of expanding it.
But money rules and money wants more games between more big name teams and you know money ruins lots of things. We get more games to watch and bet on, oh yay. Why not just make it a year round sport then, more games to watch and bet must be better right? When you want more of something when it is over, is a good thing, it is makes it special. Like a concert, you play for 4 hours and even my favorite band, I'm kind of over it at a certain point. You play for 2.5 hours and you're like man that was amazing. Over saturation and flooding the market with more and more longer and longer, in my opinion atleast has diminishing returns to this particular fan.
Will always be the cat chasing the tailExplain to me how the system works where TCU would be 7 and Clemson 5. I am not concerned about who is better or who would win but how they could be ranked higher by a computer. TCU had beaten teams ranked in the top 20 four consecutive weeks, plays in a tougher conference and Clemson's best win is an overtime win at Wake Forest (two quality wins vs Cuse and NCSU at home). I don't understand. I will never understand.
Explain to me how the system works where TCU would be 7 and Clemson 5. I am not concerned about who is better or who would win but how they could be ranked higher by a computer. TCU had beaten teams ranked in the top 20 four consecutive weeks, plays in a tougher conference and Clemson's best win is an overtime win at Wake Forest (two quality wins vs Cuse and NCSU at home). I don't understand. I will never understand.
I agree with margin of victory not mattering at least.
I am an American at heart. I believe in equal opportunity. I don't believe in central controlled systems that just get to decide things. Set up a clear set of rules that all participants can use in the same ways to succeed, objectively not subjectively, on the field of play. That is the only system that will ever be acceptable to me. Until we have that, all of the champions in college football are mythical champions in my estimation. Mythical champions are fine but I am not going to pretend they are real.
Take the top 4 conference champions of these BCS standings and play them off and that is perfect. Anything else is bullshit. The committee is bullshit. Multiple teams from the same conference is bullshit.
I kind of long for the days when it was truly regional and 3 or 4 teams each year could argue they were the national champions. I understand the desire to have a "true" national champion, but all we're really going to end up accomplishing is turning away from most of the things that made the sport great, and turn it into a professional league with a few super-conferences made up of the biggest brands. I'm a fan of one of those brands, so as an entertainment product I think I'll be just fine, but there's no doubt that we will sacrifice the things that separated the sport from the NFL
Perhaps the rigged system is part of the reason kent st is not ohio state or south alabama is not alabama. If you know you cannot win a national title unless you play in certain conferences, of course other conferences will suffer competitively. Maybe if the playing field were more even, we would see more competitive football overall, more big games, more drama AND actually have the ability to declare a real champion based on objective measures.
I am pretty sure Utah was the best team in the nation one year subjectively (I cannot know) and they never even got a chance to play for a title despite being perfect.
I remember the year Texas whipped Oklahoma, had only 1 loss (errr the night game at TX Tech) and Oklahoma somehow went to a BCS title game instead. Not only was it subjective but the actual game they played against each other was counted for less than the game Texas lost to Texas Tech. It will never make sense to me. Then we have the teams getting advantages from not playing in conference title games ... and on and on and on.
I don't even like calling it a playoff. It's an invite only tournament after the season ends ... several conferences need not apply.
This subject makes my blood boil every year.
I kind of long for the days when it was truly regional and 3 or 4 teams each year could argue they were the national champions. I understand the desire to have a "true" national champion, but all we're really going to end up accomplishing is turning away from most of the things that made the sport great, and turn it into a professional league with a few super-conferences made up of the biggest brands. I'm a fan of one of those brands, so as an entertainment product I think I'll be just fine, but there's no doubt that we will sacrifice the things that separated the sport from the NFL
I think it was last year i was in the midst of arguing something bout it and just came to the decision long as they giving us games to bet I don’t care. I’d prefer not to see 12 team playoff, I like that Uga/vols should matter next week, soon as we go to 12 it won’t. I don’t hate playoff, I’d prefer every conf champ got in, I’d also prefer teams who don’t win conf don’t magically get a chance to be deemed national champ when they wernt champ of their conf, why can’t they strive to remain the only sport the regular season matters? What’s wrong with that? I know the answer, obviously cause more playoffs = more money, but I don’t have to like it, just doesn’t seem like it makes sense to worry bout cause it ain’t ever gonna be up to me and the ppl it is up to main goal isn’t what we would like it to be.,
Of course all this superpower conf crap coming soon i guess it makes more sense to have 4-5-6 teams from one conf in the playoffs since conferences will be so big there won’t be a great way of determining conf champion as inevitably teams from same conf won’t be seeing each other I suppose. It’s all so stupid., why waste energy on it since they all just gonna do and scramble to get as much money as they can no matter what it looks like or what we think.
Also true. We can't, don't and won't control anything "they" decide to do with this thing, so on one hand, why care? I think the BCS years were really fascinating and I loved the process behind the rankings. I like to present my point of view because I feel it is unique and not represented much in the discussions that currently go on now with some 12 team playoff and the Big Ten or SEC getting 3 or 4 teams into a playoff perhaps. Really, the season ends Thanksgiving weekend for me. There are games and outcomes that happen after that, what they mean, I don't know. At it's core the regular season of college football when all the teams are playing and all the rivalries are in play and the races for divisions or conference crowns are at stake - that is what matters to me. The rest of it, eh, I don't really need it.
They doing their best to make plenty of these games played before thanksgiving to not “matter” nearly as much. That the biggest bummer to me.
For me it boils down to something simple
I remember where I was when Testaverde threw the INT to Penn St
I remember where I was when Tommie Frazier made the best run in CFB history (at least my history)
I remember where I was when Nebraska beat Tennessee so badly that all night was about the votes
I vaguely remember any of the championship games of the last decade, often I have to look up who won. For me, this whole thing has ruined the game, there simply aren't the memories of the past
I left out games I was at, like undeserving Nebraska as s--k mentioned in 2002 "earning" the right to get pasted by Miami. That was the joke of all jokes.
The NYE games aren't memorable per se other than where I went to absolutely destroy my memory on bubblyThere only 5-6 sporting events I remember where I was the last 30 years! For most part I only remember cause I was at a unusual location (or at game in baseball case), not because of the game. I remember where I mostly havnt been since they started putting the semi finals on New Year’s Eve, in front of a tv! Lol.
Explain to me how the system works where TCU would be 7 and Clemson 5.