Saturday Discussion Thread

i grabbed the ff u4 in stl, i put u4 -120 to start parlay with Rox then it dropped to u3.5 +110 which was fine with me for the straight bet, dont like paying the extra 30 cents in juice just for a chance at a push anyways, it fine with parlay but straight give me the plus money. i couldnt really control it, just happened to work out that way, lol.. zona offense just isnt very good, waino was walking guys left and right and they still only managed 3 runs off him in 6 innings!! cards offense isnt playing nearly as well as i expected up to this point, once ya get past the 4 hole they have a bunch of guys hitting at or below the Mendoza line, Kelly has been a better pitcher during the day most his career and cards really not hitting right handed pitching (their numbers vs lefties been dipping of late as well), Only the dodgers have gotten more than a run off kelly this season and cards offense has been sputtering other than that 2 game outlier earlier in the week, they couldnt even score in cincy bandbox last week only putting up 10 runs in 3 games, expect they continue to struggle here, maybe they are able to get to dbacks pen but i wouldnt count on that either. Mikolas has also been a better pitcher during the day and he likes pitching at Busch, he starting to round back into pre-injury form and facing a lineup with 5 guys below the mendoza line with very little pop. this has pitchers duel written all over it. full game under 7.5 is probably good also, the good pitchers out the pen should follow mikolas today but i expect he goes 6+ anyways. zona pen only thing that concerns me with full game but even tho cards put a bunch of guys on the bases against them last night they couldnt come thriu with a hit when they needed it.
 
rox ml (in parlay), rox 1st 5 -1, rox fg -1.5.. back at home where they tough for the best teams to beat and facing a reds team who been the worst in baseball and starting another guy who has no idea what pitching at coors is like!! Kuhl k rate down but he missing more bats than any time in his career so i would expect that to change. He looked really good his 1st time pitching at coors as his home park, looks like he has changed his pitch mix a bit which i would think was with coors in mind. He gets a shot to keep it rolling vs a really bad reds lineup and should get plenty of run support facing a 28 year old with a total of 15 big league innings, just feels like a no brainer to get plus money laying a run thru 5 and even the 1.5 at home for a game with total this high.
 
seattle ev.. 2 really good lhp but the dog has a lineup who been hitting lefties! fish are striking out 35% of the time vs lhp this season which isnt a shock after a whopping 30% k rate over the entire season last year! they were bottom 5 in ops vs lefties last year and actually have a lower ops at the moment. Ray should be really good here, think we actually could play both pitchers k prop over as seattle has a lot of swing and miss as well. ray k numbers down but he has faced one the better lhp lineups then a few teams who just dont strike out a ton, id think this a perfect game for him to rack up a bunch of them,, ov 6.5 for me.. the key for Luzardo going over 5.5 will just be a matter of not getting rocked ov 5.5 also, think we see ton of punch outs here and seattle snaps their 3 game slide and gets the W.
 
Mentioned this in @twins fan23 thread, prob good idea to fade Braves young pitcher today, his command has been dog shit and he really doesn’t have the stuff to get away with it. Only a matter of time till he either over corrects to throw strikes and gets smashed or just keeps walking too many and getting blown up that way. Problem is how much can ya trust rangers lineup and not getting all that much plus to do it, that kinda sucks. I think rangers Ff and lay the reverse half run, or rangers team total over 3.5 prob the ways I’d look to attack him since not much incentive to play them to win game.
 
Oh shit. Hope I don’t jinx myself but I didn’t even realize cards were rolling out some uglier than usual lineup with Arenado not in it! Can’t be mad bout that (unless you played stl!)
 
It’s a damn shame I still fear cws vs lefties and can’t bring myself to ever trust Vince Velasquez cause needing 10 runs to beat the under with way sox swinging the bats and a stiff wind blowing in seems like a lot!! Few years back I woulda hit this over based off my desire to fade Velasquez and cws numbers vs lhp but pretty sure it would be one those overs I lose in really annoying fashion where runners get stranded all game then the pens shut it down. Under is def the right play imo, just a tough bet to make!
 
i grabbed the ff u4 in stl, i put u4 -120 to start parlay with Rox then it dropped to u3.5 +110 which was fine with me for the straight bet, dont like paying the extra 30 cents in juice just for a chance at a push anyways, it fine with parlay but straight give me the plus money. i couldnt really control it, just happened to work out that way, lol.. zona offense just isnt very good, waino was walking guys left and right and they still only managed 3 runs off him in 6 innings!! cards offense isnt playing nearly as well as i expected up to this point, once ya get past the 4 hole they have a bunch of guys hitting at or below the Mendoza line, Kelly has been a better pitcher during the day most his career and cards really not hitting right handed pitching (their numbers vs lefties been dipping of late as well), Only the dodgers have gotten more than a run off kelly this season and cards offense has been sputtering other than that 2 game outlier earlier in the week, they couldnt even score in cincy bandbox last week only putting up 10 runs in 3 games, expect they continue to struggle here, maybe they are able to get to dbacks pen but i wouldnt count on that either. Mikolas has also been a better pitcher during the day and he likes pitching at Busch, he starting to round back into pre-injury form and facing a lineup with 5 guys below the mendoza line with very little pop. this has pitchers duel written all over it. full game under 7.5 is probably good also, the good pitchers out the pen should follow mikolas today but i expect he goes 6+ anyways. zona pen only thing that concerns me with full game but even tho cards put a bunch of guys on the bases against them last night they couldnt come thriu with a hit when they needed it.

Easiest money of day. If I woulda seen that lineup cards rolled out today woulda freaking doubled the bet!!!
 
I’m so annoyed with way they so hit and miss with when they come with pitcher props. Overnight they usually give 2-3 random pitchers w no reason behind which ones. Then they come out sporadically after that again with no clue when or why! I woulda loved to play McClanahan k prop but forgot all about cause wasn’t out when I was at casino. It really sucks cause they move quick also so you basically have to stare at lines until they pop to get good numbers.
 
It’s a damn shame I still fear cws vs lefties and can’t bring myself to ever trust Vince Velasquez cause needing 10 runs to beat the under with way sox swinging the bats and a stiff wind blowing in seems like a lot!! Few years back I woulda hit this over based off my desire to fade Velasquez and cws numbers vs lhp but pretty sure it would be one those overs I lose in really annoying fashion where runners get stranded all game then the pens shut it down. Under is def the right play imo, just a tough bet to make!

Shoulda trusted myself on this one. screamed a over bet I woulda lost few years ago! Made Under feel pretty obvious!!
 
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