Saturday 11/22/14 NBA discussion thread

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If Cleveland/ NO lose tonight, I will be on them for sure tomorrow. Maybe I can add Wizards to the mix, so that anyway I will already have one play tomorrow, though fading Bucks is not really my thing...
 
Look, I know Philadelphia's terrible, but the Knicks shouldn't be 11.5 point favourites vs anyone. Not the Sixers, not the Lady Vols, not the Washington Generals, not the Monstars...
 
keep on eye on the bucks game.. they are getting blown out right now in canada,, hopefully kidd plays the bench the rest of the way and the wizzy's win or at least play it close.... Bucks will probably be a very large play..
 
Cleveland was suppose to be an autoplay if they lose, but they looked so bad...
Mike Brown's Cleveland bad...
Bron logged 39 minutes and looked so tired...
I love Blatt, but his coaching in this game doesn't even qualifies to "F" grade... even worse...
 
Divol - Of course they looked bad, but they are not as bad as they showed last night. They will be focused as hell tonight, and LeBron will beast out.

Like the Bucks as well...one point of contention: Bucks playing 4/5 including a 3 OT game on Wed. Second time this year playing 4/5. Last time they beat Memphis 93-92 as a 4 pt home dog. Wash off huge win, letdown spot.
 
I agree mate. I took Cavs as well. My concern is that last night, Bron looked really tired.
 
agree on cavs...but they are jekyl/hyde so smaller play

lov wiz...mil 4 in 5 and have over performed and wiz beat them without beal earlier....mil record deceiving as they have beat bad teams,teams that were beat up or mem that was playing 4 in 6...mil back home after 4 in 5 and 6 flights...they have to be tired....and wash looked like a really good basketball team to me last night
 
Cleveland - Toronto

Cleveland is "due" for a blowout win and soon. Somehow, it's very hard to picture them lose tonight as well, making it 4th straight loss, so early in the season, especially at home. On top of that, Bron, after the loss to the Spurs, when he turned the ball over, signaled the crowd, that it was on him and tonight he should do his thing.
Three big problems though - Bron looked really tired and frustrated last night (both him and Kyrie played 39 minutes last night). It came down to him not going back on defense and Wizards players actually waiting for him to return (and I'm talking about 6 - 7 seconds of wait). Love looks lost. He is getting owned on defense by everyone and just can't find his game on offense. The offense looks more and more like Mike Brown's offense. Just give the ball to Bron/ Kyrie... Last night, on so many attacks, you could see that Bron has the ball and 4 Cleveland players just stand and watch. Didn't move an inch...
I think that Blatt needs to play with more players that know how to play with Bron. Varejao, Jones and Miller. Them, together with Kyrie will be terrible team on defense, but at least the offense won't be that stagnant.
Toronto just blown the Bucks out of Canada. Won against Memphis in true grit and grind, but still... on the road that have failed in their only test against the Heat.
Now, they get the same line (almost) like against Boston. So suddenly Boston and Cleveland are in the same level?
Can't lie and say I'm not worried, but if I won't take Cleveland for max units here, it just won't be my style of capping.
 
Milwaukee - Washington

I been saying it many times already, Bucks and Wolves (when healthy) should be money all season long. Bucks are deep, play good defense and have a lot of talent and a good coach.
On the other hand, it would be nuts to fade finally healthy Wizards. They really are ready to come and play. Easy skip for me.

Indiana - Phoenix

I see no reason to back Pacers here. 4 wins in 5 games already make them an auto fade for me. With all the due respect and it's hard not to respect what Vogel have done with this team this week, this is not a team that can win so many games in such a short period. Phoenix have yet to win both games in B2B this season. They either lose the first game or the second or both.
Phoenix really got a great chance to finally break that spell and I doubt they will give it away.
Suns or nothing for me here.
 
Knicks - Sixers

I honestly don't get how one can place any money on one of the two teams and feel good about it.
Skip.

Orlando - Miami

It would be dumb to fade the Magic in this point. Great form, tons of confidence and lost last home game.
On the other hand, just like with the Pacers - this is not a team that will continue their success for long.
Magic or skip - probably skip.

Houston - Dallas

Parsons really wasn't happy about the remarks made by Harden that he and Dwight were the only stars on Rockets roster last year and the rest were roll players and those come and go.
I wish Dwight would have played tonight, so that the line would have been around PK and Parsons would have tried even harder to prove a point, but Dallas are the hottest team in the league and really I see no reason for them to stop.
Dallas or skip, probably Dallas.

Minnesota - Sacramento

Kings should be getting the same lines as the Spurs (or almost). Wolves at home can bite and you have to be nuts (in my eyes) to lay almost double digits line with the Kings as road favorites.
Can't trust my money on Minny's scrabs, so probably a skip, but it's really tempting to give them a try.
 
SA - Brooklyn

The only other team I wouldn't want to be on their run to stop, other than Dallas, are the Spurs. They look like they are having fun out there and just play really nice.
On the other hand, it's hard to lay so many points against decent Nets.
Yeah, they may suck at times, but at times, they play pretty good basketball and despite going 0 - 3 in their last trip to the West, they fought back.
Skip (very small lean to the Nets).

Utah - NO

I know that Denver - Utah B2B road trip is a nightmare, but to lose to two bottom teams in the West is just something that Pelicans can not afford.
Both teams waived a white flag early last night, so do not expect a fatigue to be a factor here and NO are just the better team.
NO looks really tempting...
 
BJPLAYER said:
agree on cavs...but they are jekyl/hyde so smaller play

lov wiz...mil 4 in 5 and have over performed and wiz beat them without beal earlier....mil record deceiving as they have beat bad teams,teams that were beat up or mem that was playing 4 in 6...mil back home after 4 in 5 and 6 flights...they have to be tired....and wash looked like a really good basketball team to me last night
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Understood, if they didnt get embarrassed last night and lose to them (revenge) a few weeks ago, i would probably stay away because of all the travel.. also the wiz did have a big win vs Lebron last night.. i think they were more "up" for that game and might be flat tonight...
 
Took 1h over in Houston 104.. Don't think Astros defense is as good as their number shows..
 
divol said:
Milwaukee - Washington

I been saying it many times already, Bucks and Wolves (when healthy) should be money all season long. Bucks are deep, play good defense and have a lot of talent and a good coach.
On the other hand, it would be nuts to fade finally healthy Wizards. They really are ready to come and play. Easy skip for me.

Indiana - Phoenix

I see no reason to back Pacers here. 4 wins in 5 games already make them an auto fade for me. With all the due respect and it's hard not to respect what Vogel have done with this team this week, this is not a team that can win so many games in such a short period. Phoenix have yet to win both games in B2B this season. They either lose the first game or the second or both.
Phoenix really got a great chance to finally break that spell and I doubt they will give it away.
Suns or nothing for me here.
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Leaning there. Did take 10.5 with the Nets. Spurs on 6 days in 9 with 1 home cover this year and coming off a high velocity game while the Nets certainly used less energy.
 
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