NFL Week 3 Discussion/Thoughts

reNew Orleans

reNew Orleans

Clubbin' with Rasual Butler
<table class="matchupBox fontsize10" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="banner"><td colspan="2">NFL - Sep 21 </td></tr><tr class="banner"><td colspan="2">NFL - WEEK 3 SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST </td></tr><tr class="evenRow"><td class="leftColumn"><small>10:00 AM</small></td><td class="rightColumn"><table class="" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="rotCell">391</td><td class="teamCell">KANSAS CITY</td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="778585_1_0_5.5_-110_NFL" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+5½-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="778585_1_2_-36.5_-110_NFL" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">o36½-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="778585_1_4_0_210_NFL" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+210</label></td></tr><tr><td class="rotCell">392</td><td class="teamCell">ATLANTA</td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" 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Lets get an early start :shake:
 
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SF has issues stopping the air game- cannot get pressure- and corners cannot cover. detroit is just ugly on D. lotta points both ways imo. however, i try to stay away from FG totals
 
all i know is cincy is horrendous.

going to have to watch for the injury updates in NO but the way cutler is looking i'd lean with Den -4 and over 51. big # but if we cant pressure with the 4 man rush then its going to be difficult for us to keep up with denver. well have to keep throwing and we are excellent at going 3 and out, cant run the damn ball. we did a poor job today getting to campbell.
 
also should be interetsing to see how SD reacts. lot of emotion going on in that locker room. Lose to a walk off TD by Carolina, lost by complete bullshit calls by refs and shanahan going for the 2 pt today. merriman gone for season, LT not himself with the toe injury. go home for monday night

can play disheartened or inspired
 
Not much sticks out really there is again touch decisions to lay big points with teams with flaws or take the points with teams playing worse then one could imagine.

Would have to say I like DET +3.5 . They did a great job at coming back but the 2nd straight week they put themselves way behind early . Remember they were up 1 with about 7 to play ...Like SF and how they have progressed but I still seem them as flawed and not maximizing situations/ Perfect example is not last weeks loos but todays win . They had 3 chances to win and how many times do you get 3 legit chances to win ?Think bout this they were down 30-27 late 4th Q and had the ball inside the red zone probably inside SEA 10 and settled for 3 pts . Then they had SEA backed up and got great field position inside the final 2 minutes . They drive the ball and get aa 40-41 yder that Nedney misses . So finally they win the coin flip and get the ball to start OT and hit a 40ish yd FG .....so nice work moving the ball all game but very poor I thought making crucial plays and inside the red zone .....

Some others are Jets +9 . I thought there defense played well and got to the QB . SD will win this and concerned they get all the breaks after two tough losses but not sure there defense is good enough to lay this many points ...

Saints and Broncos ? Over 151 ??? Neither team can stop anyone and DEN offense is explosive if Cutler doesnt let the ball slip out of his hand...

Under Minny and Carolina ...maybe Under TB and CHI as well.....

Over 42 Indy ...:cheers:
 
Live dogs

Oak

Houston

Tampa

Car

Det love them, but will not bet them Fuck them

-----------13 for CINCYY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a difference a year makes.

Seattle should destroy St. Louis.
 
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Not much sticks out really there is again touch decisions to lay big points with teams with flaws or take the points with teams playing worse then one could imagine.

Would have to say I like DET +3.5 . They did a great job at coming back but the 2nd straight week they put themselves way behind early . Remember they were up 1 with about 7 to play ...Like SF and how they have progressed but I still seem them as flawed and not maximizing situations/ Perfect example is not last weeks loos but todays win . They had 3 chances to win and how many times do you get 3 legit chances to win ?Think bout this they were down 30-27 late 4th Q and had the ball inside the red zone probably inside SEA 10 and settled for 3 pts . Then they had SEA backed up and got great field position inside the final 2 minutes . They drive the ball and get aa 40-41 yder that Nedney misses . So finally they win the coin flip and get the ball to start OT and hit a 40ish yd FG .....so nice work moving the ball all game but very poor I thought making crucial plays and inside the red zone .....

Some others are Jets +9 . I thought there defense played well and got to the QB . SD will win this and concerned they get all the breaks after two tough losses but not sure there defense is good enough to lay this many points ...

Saints and Broncos ? Over 151 ??? Neither team can stop anyone and DEN offense is explosive if Cutler doesnt let the ball slip out of his hand...

Under Minny and Carolina ...maybe Under TB and CHI as well.....

Over 42 Indy ...:cheers:
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Id take my chances with 151 :shake:
 
I actually meant 151 ......these teams cant stop anyone . If the Redskins didnt waste so many early opps they would have hung 50 something ....Skins 1st H was 3 of 5 on FGs and 9 points and they should have had like 24-28 ...

and will I like OAK the whole 1 PM things scares me when they have some key young players ....
 
yea, i watched the game. zorns not been good at play calling for the skins or campbell doesnt know how to execute the offense. either way it was ugly
 
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Time</TH><TH>Time
Poss</TH><TH>Drive
Began</TH><TH># of
Plays</TH><TH>Yards
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Time</TH><TH>Time
Poss</TH><TH>Drive
Began</TH><TH># of
Plays</TH><TH>Yards
Gained</TH><TH vAlign=top>Result</TH></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>13:24</TD><TD class=c>4:50</TD><TD class=c>NO 20</TD><TD class=c>9</TD><TD class=c>80</TD><TD class=c>TD</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=c>5:17</TD><TD class=c>1:59</TD><TD class=c>NO 20</TD><TD class=c>3</TD><TD class=c>8</TD><TD class=c>Punt</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>0:57</TD><TD class=c>0:57</TD><TD class=c>NO 10</TD><TD class=c>7</TD><TD class=c>59</TD><TD class=c>FG</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD colSpan=6></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblhead2><TH colSpan=6>3rd Quarter </TH></TR><TR class=ysptblhead3><TH>Start
Time</TH><TH>Time
Poss</TH><TH>Drive
Began</TH><TH># of
Plays</TH><TH>Yards
Gained</TH><TH vAlign=top>Result</TH></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>15:00</TD><TD class=c>5:13</TD><TD class=c>NO 20</TD><TD class=c>11</TD><TD class=c>80</TD><TD class=c>TD</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=c>5:01</TD><TD class=c>3:07</TD><TD class=c>NO 20</TD><TD class=c>5</TD><TD class=c>14</TD><TD class=c>Punt</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD colSpan=6></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblhead2><TH colSpan=6>4th Quarter </TH></TR><TR class=ysptblhead3><TH>Start
Time</TH><TH>Time
Poss</TH><TH>Drive
Began</TH><TH># of
Plays</TH><TH>Yards
Gained</TH><TH vAlign=top>Result</TH></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>13:30</TD><TD class=c>2:54</TD><TD class=c>NO 28</TD><TD class=c>6</TD><TD class=c>23</TD><TD class=c>Punt</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=c>5:52</TD><TD class=c>2:23</TD><TD class=c>NO 28</TD><TD class=c>3</TD><TD class=c>9</TD><TD class=c>Punt</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>3:19</TD><TD class=c>0:20</TD><TD class=c>NO 36</TD><TD class=c>3</TD><TD class=c>12</TD><TD class=c>Int</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=10></TD><TD vAlign=top width=275><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblhead><TH colSpan=6>Washington Drives</TH></TR><TR class=ysptblhead2><TH colSpan=6>1st Quarter </TH></TR><TR class=ysptblhead3><TH>Start
Time</TH><TH>Time
Poss</TH><TH>Drive
Began</TH><TH># of
Plays</TH><TH>Yards
Gained</TH><TH vAlign=top>Result</TH></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>15:00</TD><TD class=c>5:45</TD><TD class=c>WAS 20</TD><TD class=c>12</TD><TD class=c>49</TD><TD class=c>FG Miss</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=c>6:23</TD><TD class=c>4:56</TD><TD class=c>WAS 33</TD><TD class=c>11</TD><TD class=c>63</TD><TD class=c>FG</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>0:31</TD><TD class=c>2:07</TD><TD class=c>NO 27</TD><TD class=c>4</TD><TD class=c>8</TD><TD class=c>FG</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD colSpan=6></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblhead2><TH colSpan=6>2nd Quarter </TH></TR><TR class=ysptblhead3><TH>Start
Time</TH><TH>Time
Poss</TH><TH>Drive
Began</TH><TH># of
Plays</TH><TH>Yards
Gained</TH><TH vAlign=top>Result</TH></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>8:26</TD><TD class=c>3:09</TD><TD class=c>WAS 40</TD><TD class=c>8</TD><TD class=c>48</TD><TD class=c>FG Miss</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=c>3:18</TD><TD class=c>2:14</TD><TD class=c>WAS 33</TD><TD class=c>8</TD><TD class=c>50</TD><TD class=c>FG</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD colSpan=6></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD colSpan=6></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblhead2><TH colSpan=6>3rd Quarter </TH></TR><TR class=ysptblhead3><TH>Start
Time</TH><TH>Time
Poss</TH><TH>Drive
Began</TH><TH># of
Plays</TH><TH>Yards
Gained</TH><TH vAlign=top>Result</TH></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>9:42</TD><TD class=c>4:41</TD><TD class=c>WAS 17</TD><TD class=c>10</TD><TD class=c>83</TD><TD class=c>TD</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=c>1:54</TD><TD class=c>1:52</TD><TD class=c>WAS 12</TD><TD class=c>3</TD><TD class=c>5</TD><TD class=c>Punt</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD colSpan=6></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblhead2><TH colSpan=6>4th Quarter </TH></TR><TR class=ysptblhead3><TH>Start
Time</TH><TH>Time
Poss</TH><TH>Drive
Began</TH><TH># of
Plays</TH><TH>Yards
Gained</TH><TH vAlign=top>Result</TH></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>15:00</TD><TD class=c>1:30</TD><TD class=c>WAS 38</TD><TD class=c>3</TD><TD class=c>6</TD><TD class=c>Punt</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=c>10:36</TD><TD class=c>4:37</TD><TD class=c>WAS 18</TD><TD class=c>8</TD><TD class=c>82</TD><TD class=c>TD</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=c>3:29</TD><TD class=c>0:00</TD><TD class=c>WAS 33</TD><TD class=c>1</TD><TD class=c>67</TD><TD class=c>TD</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=c>2:59</TD><TD class=c>2:59</TD><TD class=c>NO 42</TD><TD class=c>6</TD><TD class=c>14</TD><TD class=c>End Reg</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Skins misses a long FG on 1st drive (-3 pts) , settled for a FG inside the 5 (-4 points) , started on teh NO27 and settled for 3 pts (-4pts) .

Then settle for a 30 YD FG and miss it (-3 or -7 pts) and then again settle for 3 pts on another short FG in the red zone (-4pts) .

2nd H they scored TDS on 3 of 5 possessions but went for 2 and didnt get it so (-1pt)

So they lost a good 19 or 23 pts IMO by repeatedly stalling and either settling for 3 or missing the 3 they settled for .....they scored 29 and the 19 or 23 they left off the board pust them at 48-52 pts ............even TB left pts off the board vs them and they had 3 injured starters on defense ......

:shake:
 
The Skins who looked pathetic on offense had 10 drives ...they only punted twice and either score pts or missed a makeable FG on 8 of them....
 
SportsNut said:
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and while I like OAK the whole 1 PM things scares me when they have some key young players ....
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I do hate the time zone issue but the Bills have beaten a suspect Seattle team and a riddled JV squad. I can't remember the last time the Bills were favored by this much. The raiders should be able to run the ball and while Kiffin is on thin ice I am sure he has been looking forward to this trip (grew up 5 miles from Rich Stadium)and knows how to handle his beloved Bills.
 
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I actually meant 151 ......these teams cant stop anyone . If the Redskins didnt waste so many early opps they would have hung 50 something ....Skins 1st H was 3 of 5 on FGs and 9 points and they should have had like 24-28 ...

and will I like OAK the whole 1 PM things scares me when they have some key young players ....
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Cross Oak of my list as a ML play, and add Buff 1st half.
 
Estreet said:
I do hate the time zone issue but the Bills have beaten a suspect Seattle team and a riddled JV squad. I can't remember the last time the Bills were favored by this much. The raiders should be able to run the ball and while Kiffin is on thin ice I am sure he has been looking forward to this trip (grew up 5 miles from Rich Stadium)and knows how to handle his beloved Bills.
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Nice info on Kiffin . I may just wait till half or play OAK small. Still have to review that KC game today (hd OAK 1st Q and game ) ...I know Fargas and Russell were banged up at some point...

2 early to decide buty on my watch list

:shake:
 
SportsNut said:
Nice info on Kiffin . I may just wait till half or play OAK small. Still have to review that KC game today (hd OAK 1st Q and game ) ...I know Fargas and Russell were banged up at some point...

2 early to decide buty on my watch list

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I don't think the Raiders can win but if I would love to buy it up to 10.

Edwards hasn't thrown a pick yet this year while last year he averaged just under one per game.
 
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Tampa

I think KC is that bad. LJ cant run and Bowe doesnt have anyone to throw him. Turner should have a big day against KC's swiss cheese run D.
 
Don't think Jamarcus will do squat against a solid and underated Bills defense. This team is clicking on all cylinders early on. Lean Bills.
 
AgainstThePublic said:
Don't think Jamarcus will do squat against a solid and underated Bills defense. This team is clicking on all cylinders early on. Lean Bills.
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Seattle averaged 4 yrds per rush and JV averaged 3.6 with a rebuilt interior line. (Jones Drew did not get a carry the entire first half-What's up with that?)

Last year OAK was 6th in the league in rushing offense without McFadden while the Bills were 22nd in rushing defense. Are they better this year? no question, but they haven't laid a number like this in at least 4 years...
 
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i like an under in seattle...but will wait for 44...Div. game, seattle has given up 34 and 33 last two weeks and are 0-2..They cant be that bad esp. at home 2 weeks in a row, but we know the rams are..The Rams offense is exactly what the seattle D needs at this point...24-13 Seattle
 
barmeezee said:
at first glance detroit & san fran total seems low.. cant see it being below 50
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I see some people thinking that but I am not so sure .

Lions started slowly both games so far but a good sign was how there defense played from mid 2nd Q to mid 4th q allowing just 3 points and really stuffing the GB offense ? Was it an illusion ? Was it the defense that looked like the uhm Bears in the preseason ??

Det offense has not played well . The had 2 TDs on long passes to Calvin Johnson and that cant be the only way to get pts on the board....

SF did some nice things but they stalled a few times again inside the red zone settling for 3 points and need 3 chances to win the game......also had good field position a few times....

I am think 45 or better is an UNDER play seeing 24-21 type game as worst case scenario ...thats just my intial reaction...SF defense can hold its own at home and DET offense has shownt the ability to sustain long drives and relied on big plays ...SF defense always plays much better at home and again the offense has relied heavily on good field position and not done well once entering teh red zone IMo......lots of FGs possibly here:shake:
 
SteelBucsFan said:
i like an under in seattle...but will wait for 44...Div. game, seattle has given up 34 and 33 last two weeks and are 0-2..They cant be that bad esp. at home 2 weeks in a row, but we know the rams are..The Rams offense is exactly what the seattle D needs at this point...24-13 Seattle
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Could be best going with TT under Rams .....apprx 17 (could be 16.5 early) gonna be hard to break that ...in general though I like it...63 pts in last weeks game 14 came on turnovers for scores and bunch more because of turnovers and good field position......:shake:
 
Estreet said:
Seattle averaged 4 yrds per rush and JV averaged 3.6 with a rebuilt interior line. (Jones Drew did not get a carry the entire first half-What's up with that?)

Last year OAK was 6th in the league in rushing offense without McFadden while the Bills were 22nd in rushing defense. Are they better this year? no question, but they haven't laid a number like this in at least 4 years...
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True but what are the Raiders going to do when Buff stacks the line and takes away the run game? I do agree that -9 seems quite a bit for Buff but Oak on the road with a rookie RB and 2nd yr starting QB that is a nightmare at the moment, I would think twice about playing Oak. Bills are a lean at the moment but I wouldn't hesitate to lay the 9 with the way Buff is playing right now. Also Sea averaged 4 yards per rush but still lost by 24 at Buff in Week 1. Just my .02:cheers:
 
AgainstThePublic said:
True but what are the Raiders going to do when Buff stacks the line and takes away the run game? I do agree that -9 seems quite a bit for Buff but Oak on the road with a rookie RB and 2nd yr starting QB that is a nightmare at the moment, I would think twice about playing Oak. Bills are a lean at the moment but I wouldn't hesitate to lay the 9 with the way Buff is playing right now. Also Sea averaged 4 yards per rush but still lost by 24 at Buff in Week 1. Just my .02:cheers:
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Why this sounds stupid and obvious it really is key to figure out what we can expect from OAK side of the scoreboard and huge key knowing how well Buffalo special teams is because Johnny Lee Higgins is a huge threat who can give a team a quick lift and maybe quick 7 points . Fargas hurt ?

If I think its tough to crack 10 points for OAK (Seabass kicking well cant be forgotten either) then -9 doesnt look like much....Have to think Bill at home get 20-21 worst case on the board....:shake:
 
AgainstThePublic said:
True but what are the Raiders going to do when Buff stacks the line and takes away the run game? I do agree that -9 seems quite a bit for Buff but Oak on the road with a rookie RB and 2nd yr starting QB that is a nightmare at the moment, I would think twice about playing Oak. Bills are a lean at the moment but I wouldn't hesitate to lay the 9 with the way Buff is playing right now. Also Sea averaged 4 yards per rush but still lost by 24 at Buff in Week 1. Just my .02:cheers:
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Remember that Edwards is a second year QB as well (Russell and Edwards both have 2 tds with no picks this season) and the running back position is one of instinct where rookies often do well.

The Seattle/SF game helps to show that the Bills week one win was not all that impressive.

The Raiders simply need to be patient with the ground game and Russell needs to maintain his error free ways.

Right now the Bills are thinking about Brady, 0-2 San Diego, 0-2 Jacksonville, and 0-2 Cleveland while pounding down victory wings.

Buffalo 21-13
 
If the Saints have Mckenzie,Harper and Fujita back I will take them. I think Denvers recent play will set this one up nicely for the pub to pound Denver at home. Saints over achieve against the upper class of the NFL. They will take Denver down but it all depends on the injuries.
 
Early leans on:

ATL -4.5. Turner is a solid back and KC is toilet paper.
Buffalo -8.5. They are the real deal, and both teams will run-run-run. See at least a 10pt victory and the under. Somethin like 21-6.
TEN -5. Defense wins games and their's has been great as of late (8 sacks, 4 INTs, 1 Fumble Rec., 1 blocked kick)
CHI -3 & UNDER 36. Disclaimer: I'm a homer; but Chi in Soldier Field is tough to contend with no matter who you are. Their D is back with vengence. TB D is always solid too. Close game, but Chi covers 17-10.
Den -5. Love this line. Tell me how NO stops Den from putting 77 points on the board? 5 points in a game where the O/U is 51 is nothing. And DEN is at home... so you mean to tell me on a neutral field, this game line is Den -2? Might be my biggest play this season.


Sorry Nawlins :whip:
Blue_Chip said:
Cutler might set a NFL record for passing yards and passing TD's in a game next week... I'm serious
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+1. That would be amazing, since I've got him, Royal and Marshall on my fantasy team. I am eating my league alive right now!

Will post my plays later in the week, but might jump on this Denver line early before it moves to a TD or more (where it should be).
 
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If the Saints have Mckenzie,Harper and Fujita back I will take them. I think Denvers recent play will set this one up nicely for the pub to pound Denver at home. Saints over achieve against the upper class of the NFL. They will take Denver down but it all depends on the injuries.
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I was thinking along the same lines once I saw 5.5 ALREADY. just a day and already 1.5 pts in the broncos favor so if we can catch better than that... plus i really want the total to drop.

and -4 opening was begging for action is it not? just in light of how last week went. considering all the injuries our defense played out of its mind for a while, they just had to get tired. Our offense just has to execute, weve looked horrendous even with our passing game
 
Initial thoughts-always subject to change
Atlanta -5.5
They've already defeated a bad football team at home. I think they can do it again.

Titans -4.5

NYG -13
The Bengals are that bad.


Like the homefield, like the defense and the improving O. I don't like Houston not playing in week 2.

STL/SEA OVER 43.5

Chargers -9
The Bolts are going to be out for blood after last weekend's debacle. I love fading teams that play cross country. The Jets played a bad Miami team and eeked out a win. They also had every edge you could want in the NE game and lost by 9.


Man that's a lot of chalk.I'll have to really look at these harder but that's what I'm liking right now.
 
Off the bat I'm peering at Buffalo and San Diego.

Oakland didn't prove shit yesterday. I can't wait to see Russell travel cross country and get his asshole ripped apart by a GOOD defense. McFadden facing a toe injury is never good, no matter how harmless it appears. It's lingering. Just ask LT.

San Diego spread is about where I predicted it. Seems a given considering how they've lost the last two games. But what scares me is Favre on a Monday night. Scary, scary stuff. I'll probably lay off but it's still super-enticing.

Anybody like me and feeling an under in the Broncos/Saints tilt? Both coming off of emotion-spectrum games and any time there's a bally-hooed offensive match-up it seems to just nip the low end of the total pole (see what I did there?).

I do like Jacksonville next week. Not putting a ton of thought into this one really. Indy still looks like garbage and I reckon the Jags can get their offense moving against the Colts.

It'll take much deliberation, but hopefully something arises.

Good luck this week, gentlemen.
 
right now liking chicago in their home opener

interestingly, unless they open pittsburgh as a fave at philly, which would be completey wrong imo, there are no road faves this week

only other lean will be GB. expecting gB to be a small fave. less than 3, maybe 1 point fave over Dallas. Unsure of where that line moves to. Not sure if I should bite immediately or wait and hope for +money on GB

Dallas should be emotionally exhausted- as well as Philly which is why I'm staying off of them against Pittsburgh
 
couple notes:

Lions, Colts, Dolphins, Patriots, Giants, Seahawks get byes after this week

coming off big divisonal SNF win gainst clev, after this week Pittsburgh has division game at home on MNF vs baltimore

off big emotional diviosional win gainst philly on mnf, after this week Dallas has divison game vs wash

off big divisonal win gainst KC, after this week Oak hosts rival SD

off crazy div win over SD, after this week Denver has div KC


thinkin on layin the number with the seahawks, or at least gettin them in Teasers/ML Parleys. CANNOT see them losing
 
From my new system--- There is a RULE i can share and state here which makes and eliminates some games--

Rule#3-- "Thou shall not bet on a bad team when favored in a professional match by the Vegas Pointspread"

This eliminates betting on the 49'ers at home to Detroit--

also eliminated Baltimore laying points at home

also eliminates Washington and Atlanta both favored also in their games-

I know KC is shit but ATL has a rookie QB--



In week 2 this eliminated KC CHIEFS who were favored over Oakland, Bengals who were -1 over Tenny both outright losses--- Also the JEts had no business being favored and lost outright quite easily as i predicted


It is amazing how VEGAS gets our hard earned money on these low lines but we are backing bad teams--

Is it as easy as simply taking the top teams who will make the playoffs and in college win their divisions and go to high profile bowl games--

Yes it is, it is so easy that it is actually confusing--

I am gonna do it, I am betting on USC, Georgia, top level NFL teams, and knowing I have a very good chance at winning each bet, it is so simple that it works, this will work---

BET ON BAD TEAMS, YOU ARE ASKING TO LOSE---

ALSO BET ON FAVORITES IN DIVISIONAL GAMES You are asking to lose--


I now look to every underdog, unless its a cellar dwellar team or a non deserving favorite--

THe only favorites I look for are named USC, Georgia, Oklahoma, Florida, and in NFL- Dallas, GBAY, Pitts, Denver's of the league
 
Initial thoughts upon 1st glance :

- Can NE get up for the Dolphins ? The Jet game was pretty important for alot of reasons . Just not sure the Pats are gonna be interested in crushing Miami . It will be a great time though to allow Cassel to take some deep shots . Just wonder is NE gonna coast in these type games...

-Not crazy about the Skins game but lean to them . They are the better team if Campbell can make plays agin. cant weigh NO much since there defense was beyond shorthanded . Just not sure ARI can run the ball effectively vs Wash and they took away the deep stuff from NYG by jus playing off the line . So actually make like the UND because both teams are ineffecient offenses and Zona avg + on defense while Skins is pretty solid...lots of FG attempts here

- Very cautious for the Minny game . Always be aware of games that move 3 and 7. That may have been my flaw in taking DAL yesterday (always a key sign ) . Anyway CAR was kinda fortunate to beat CHI while Minny just cant get the offense to hold on vs Indy . Thinking about the Vikes as Car just unimpressive in week 2 as the offense did next to nothing enter the Vikes defense .....and a desperate team

-Bucs and Bears under ...just dont see many pts here w/o short fields and such ...lean Bears ....

-Oak game is tough . Do I want to lay all those pts or gamble Bills score like 17 and OAK gets to 9 or 10...?? Thinking UNDER .....

-KC is a mess but not sure the pts are worth laying . Might just gamble we see some pts with raw defenses ....

-Giants and Bengals ? Not sure I can lay 13 or recommend it . NYG did not play that well @ STL IMO. If Cincy can get any points on the board its gonna be a tough cover . Really dont see NYG scoring more then 28 ...

-Thinking over @ Tenny but maybe Texans ...love those +5s when books are stuck and know they cant make -3 or -7.....

- If Saints get some players make on defense then looking at them for sure . ALso over because I dont like the DEN defense in 2 weeks but I could see alot of missed opportunities in this game resulting in an under . Perfect world they crack a 100 in this game but real world ..?

- Hate the trip for DET and the fact Martz is the opposing OC. Not sure abnout the total because I dont know what to expect as both offenses have caught tons of breaks IMO when scoring and the LION defense looks like its regressed from last year ...after looking the 85 bears in preseason ....I know its preseason but still didnt matter what unit it was the same result ....and they shut GB down after the 21-0 lead till late 4th quarter ...there is hope..prefer DET +4

-Rams are a mess and SEA is hurting ...under most of all because not sure the Hawks can take advantage through the air . Koren Robinson appears to be back in the mix. Cant take STL here and hate the spread but has to be SEA or nothing at this point. STL is that bad....now I believe

-Really like the UND in the Ravens - Browns game ...really like it ...kinda lean CLE as not into BALT as chalk ....

-Jags and Colts want to see injuries ...think Jax are in much worst shape then Indy . Easiest defense Colts had to face and expect some more pts from them...Jags could run the ball at will though here is a HUGE concern for me ...

- When the line hits 3.5 probably take Pitt . Mostly because I think people are overrating how they played @ Dallas by a wide margin . Big rivalry game and just think Pitt keeps it close with someone hitting a late FG to decide it .....

- Not sure about the total but DAL again and again especially if Bigby is out . lets not overlook the fact the GB almost blew that DET game up 21-3 at half and trailed 25-24 with 7 to play . Bigby ledt and CJohnson quickly caught 2 long TD passes to spark the Lions ....think DAL defense is alot better then its getting credit for and both off high scoring games makes an OVER scary ..do I have the sack to play some sort of UNDER?

- Tough game for Jets . Off a tough loss at home to a rival has to fly cross country to face an 0-2 team who has lost twice in consecutive closing seconds of games ....SD is banged up though so that makes the spread high IMO ...have to lean to Jets +9.....:shake:

Early looks...
 
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