NFL Week 11 Discussion

Marlo · Nov 10, 2008

<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#800000 height=20><TD width=225>Thursday, November 13, 2008</TD><TD width=75 bgColor=#ffffff>Game/2ndH</TD><TD align=middle width=55>1stH</TD><TD align=middle width=55>1stQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>2ndQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>3rdQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>4thQ</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#003366 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>#</TD><TD width=200>Team Name </TD><TD align=right width=95>Spread </TD><TD align=middle width=95>Total</TD><TD align=middle width=55>MoneyLn</TD><TD align=right width=85>T1 Total </TD><TD align=right width=85>T2 Total </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>8:15 pm (NFL) </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>307</TD><TD width=185>New York Jets</TD><TD align=right width=85> -125</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>308</TD><TD width=185>New England Patriots</TD><TD align=right width=85>-3½ +105</TD><TD align=middle width=85>41</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#800000 height=20><TD width=225>Sunday, November 16, 2008</TD><TD width=75 bgColor=#ffffff>Game/2ndH</TD><TD align=middle width=55>1stH</TD><TD align=middle width=55>1stQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>2ndQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>3rdQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>4thQ</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#003366 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>#</TD><TD width=200>Team Name </TD><TD align=right width=95>Spread </TD><TD align=middle width=95>Total</TD><TD align=middle width=55>MoneyLn</TD><TD align=right width=85>T1 Total </TD><TD align=right width=85>T2 Total </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>1:00 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>401</TD><TD width=185>Denver Broncos</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>402</TD><TD width=185>Atlanta Falcons</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-5½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>51</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>1:00 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>403</TD><TD width=185>Oakland Raiders</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>404</TD><TD width=185>Miami Dolphins</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-10½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>38½</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>1:00 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>405</TD><TD width=185>Baltimore Ravens</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>406</TD><TD width=185>New York Giants</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-6½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>41½</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>1:00 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>407</TD><TD width=185>Houston Texans</TD><TD align=right width=85> -115</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>408</TD><TD width=185>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD align=right width=85>-9 -105</TD><TD align=middle width=85>50</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>4:15 pm (TM CH) </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>409</TD><TD width=185>Tennessee Titans</TD><TD align=right width=85>-3 +105</TD><TD align=middle width=85>39½</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>410</TD><TD width=185>Jacksonville Jaguars</TD><TD align=right width=85> -125</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>1:00 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>413</TD><TD width=185>Philadelphia Eagles</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-9</TD><TD align=middle width=85>43</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>414</TD><TD width=185>Cincinnati Bengals</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>1:00 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>415</TD><TD width=185>New Orleans Saints</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-4½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>47½</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>416</TD><TD width=185>Kansas City Chiefs</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>1:00 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>417</TD><TD width=185>Detroit Lions</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>418</TD><TD width=185>Carolina Panthers</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-14½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>39½</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>1:00 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>419</TD><TD width=185>Minnesota Vikings</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>420</TD><TD width=185>Tampa Bay Buccaneers</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-4</TD><TD align=middle width=85>39½</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>4:15 pm </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>425</TD><TD width=185>San Diego Chargers</TD><TD align=right width=85> -105</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>426</TD><TD width=185>Pittsburgh Steelers</TD><TD align=right width=85>-4 -115</TD><TD align=middle width=85>43</TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#800000 height=20><TD width=225>Monday, November 17, 2008</TD><TD width=75 bgColor=#ffffff>Game/2ndH</TD><TD align=middle width=55>1stH</TD><TD align=middle width=55>1stQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>2ndQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>3rdQ</TD><TD align=middle width=55>4thQ</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#003366 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>#</TD><TD width=200>Team Name </TD><TD align=right width=95>Spread </TD><TD align=middle width=95>Total</TD><TD align=middle width=55>MoneyLn</TD><TD align=right width=85>T1 Total </TD><TD align=right width=85>T2 Total </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width="100%"><SMALL>8:35 pm (ESPN) </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width="98%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle width=35>429</TD><TD width=185>Cleveland Browns</TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD align=middle width=85> </TD><TD width=45> </TD><TD width=85> </TD><TD width=85> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=35>430</TD><TD width=185>Buffalo Bills</TD><TD align=middle width=85>-4½</TD><TD align=middle width=85>4</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Marlo · Nov 10, 2008

</TD></TR><TR><TD>307 New York-A</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>308 New England</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>NFL Network
NE-RB''s-Jordan, Morris-Both Questionable

</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>41
-4.0 </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>41
-3.0 -120</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>41
-3.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-3.0 -120</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>41
-3.0 -120</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>40½
-3.0 -120</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>41
-3.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>41
-3.5 -105</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-3.5 +105</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR>Picks</NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_odd><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>401 Denver</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>402 Atlanta</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>DEN-RB-Young-Doubtful, RB''s-Torain, Pittman, Hall-All OUT

</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>49
-6.0 </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>51
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>51
-6.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>51
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>51
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>51
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>51
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-6 -105</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_even><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>403 Oakland</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>404 Miami</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>OAK-QB''s-Russell, Walter-Both Questionable, RB-McFadden-Questionable

</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>38
-13.0 </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>38½
-10.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>38½
-10.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-10.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>38½
-10.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>38½
-10.0 -120</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>38½
-10.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>38½
-10.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_odd><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>405 Baltimore</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>406 New York-N</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>GAME OFF BOARD:
NYG plays Sun Night
Sun Night Line: NYG -7.0 / 42.0

</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>42
-6.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>42
-6.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-6.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>42
-6.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>41½
-6.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>42
-6.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>42
-6.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-7 -105</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_even><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD>407 Houston</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>408 Indianapolis</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>49½
-8.5 </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>49½
-7.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>49
-8.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-9.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>49
-8.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>49½
-9.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>49½
-8.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>50
-8.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-8.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_odd><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 4:15 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>409 Tennessee</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>410 Jacksonville</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>***TIME CHANGE***
JAC-WR-M. Jones-Questionable

</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>-1.0
38½</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-3.0+110
40</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-3.0EVEN
39½</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>-3.0+105
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-3.0EVEN
39</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>-2.5-120
39½</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-3.0+110
39½</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>-3.0+105
39½</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-3+105
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_even><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>411 Chicago</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>412 Green Bay</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>GAME OFF BOARD:
CHI-QB-Orton-Questionable
Orton IN: GB -4.0 / 45.0

</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-5.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_odd><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>413 Phila.</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>414 Cincinnati</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>GAME OFF BOARD:
PHI plays Sun Night
Sun Night Line: PHI -7.5 / 42.5

</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-9.0-110
43</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-9.0-110
43</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>-9.0-110
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-9.0-110
43</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>-8.5-110
43</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-9.0-110
43</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>-9.0-110
43</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-9-110
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_even><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>415 New Orleans</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>416 Kansas City</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>NO-RB-Bush-Questionable
KC-RB-Johnson-Probable

</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-5.5-110
47½</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-5.0-110
48</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>-4.5-110
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-5.0-110
48</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>-4.5-110
48</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-4.5-110
48</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>-4.5-110
47½</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_odd><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD>417 Detroit</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>418 Carolina</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>39½
-14.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>39½
-14.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-14.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-15.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>39½
-14.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>39½
-14.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>39
-14.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-14 -115</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_even><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 1:00 PM</TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD>419 Minnesota</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>420 Tampa Bay</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>39½
-3.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>39½
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>39
-3.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>39
-3.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>39½
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>39½
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-4 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_odd><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 4:05 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>421 St. Louis</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>422 San Fran.</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>GAME OFF BOARD:
SF plays Mon Night
STL-RB-Jackson-Questionable
Sun Night Line: (In): SF -3.5 / 46.0

</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_even><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 4:05 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>423 Arizona</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>424 Seattle</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>GAME OFF BOARD:
ARZ plays Mon Night
SEA-QB-Hasselbeck-Questionable, WR-Branch-Questionable, QB-Wallace-Questionable

</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-3.5-110
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-3.5-110
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_odd><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 4:15 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>425 San Diego</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>426 Pittsburgh</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>PIT-RB-Parker-Questionable, TE-Miller-Questionable

</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>42½
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>43
-3.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>43
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>43
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>43
-3.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>43
-4.0 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_even><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/16 8:15 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>427 Dallas</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>428 Washington</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>NBC
GAME OFF BOARD:
DAL-QB-Romo-Probable, RB-F. Jones-Probable
WAS-WR-S. Moss-Questionable, RB-Portis-Questionable

</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-1.5-110
45</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-2.0-110
45</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-1.5-110
45</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>-1.5-110
45</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>XX
XX </NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_even vAlign=center noWrap align=middle width=42><NOBR></NOBR></TD></TR><TR class=oddsText_odd><TD style="POSITION: relative" vAlign=bottom width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=13>11/17 8:35 PM</TD><TD align=right>

</TD></TR><TR><TD>429 Cleveland</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>430 Buffalo</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>ESPN

</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=58><NOBR>
</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>41
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>42
-4.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=60><NOBR>
-4.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>42
-6.0 +105</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=59><NOBR>41½
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>42
-5.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=67><NOBR>42
-4.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD><TD class=oddsText_odd vAlign=bottom noWrap align=middle width=61><NOBR>
-4.5 -110</NOBR>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Marlo · Nov 10, 2008

Opening Line Report - Week 11
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Is this the week the Tennessee Titans finally suffer their first defeat? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Bettors thought it would happen two weeks ago when they wagered heavily against the Titans. Tennessee beat Green Bay in overtime. It was the only time the Titans haven’t covered all season. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Money came against the Titans this past weekend, too, but Tennessee beat Chicago on the road. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]There’s a feeling the Titans won’t be so fortunate away from home again this Sunday. The Titans are three-point road favorites versus Jacksonville. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]“Any time you take Tennessee now you’re taking a chance,” said Mike Seba, a senior linesmaker for Las Vegas Sports Consultants. “The Titans actually could use a loss. They know they’re not going undefeated and the pressure has to be on the minds, especially when on the road.” [/FONT]
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</OBJECT><NOSCRIPT></NOSCRIPT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=270 height=10><SPACER type="block" height="10" width="1"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>There was divided opinion among the LVSC oddsmakers on the Titans-Jaguars matchup. The lines ranged from Jacksonville minus one to Titans minus 2 ½. The company’s recommendation to its many Nevada hotel clients was Titans minus one. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Bookmakers felt they couldn’t put out Tennessee as more than a field goal favorite against the Jaguars, after the Titans were minus three last week against the Bears. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]“I don’t think you give three to Jacksonville at home,” Seba said. “I wouldn’t be surprised if the line came down to 2 ½. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]“Jacksonville is looking better. The Jaguars are getting healthier and absolutely have to have this game. Even though their record isn’t good, the Jaguars are a decent team. This is a good spot for them.” [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The Jaguars looked great this past Sunday. But that was against winless Detroit. In their previous game, the Jaguars lost to the Cincinnati Bengals, which hadn’t won a game. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]You know what you’re going to get from Tennessee – a low-scoring, conservative type of hard-hitting smash-mouth game. That’s Jacksonville’s style, too. The key is which Jacksonville team will show up? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]“The Titans always comes to play, but it has to catch up to them at some point,” Seba said. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The San Diego Chargers are kind of the opposite of the Tennessee Titans. They generate all kinds of betting interest with the public but are rarely consistent. The Titans produce wins and covers, but haven’t caught on with many recreational bettors who continue to fade them. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The Chargers came within a missed two-point conversion of losing to Kansas City as 15-point home favorites on Sunday. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Yet bookmakers had Pittsburgh listed as only a 3 ½-point home favorite on Sunday against San Diego. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The LVSC oddsmakers believed that number to be short. Their send-out number was Steelers minus 4 ½. Seba said power rating-wise with home-field thrown in the Steelers could have been six-point favorites versus the Chargers. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]“It has to be at least four,” he said about the Chargers-Steelers line. “I was thinking six if Willie Parker and Heath Miller are able to play.” [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Whether it’s because of a lingering toe injury or what, it’s becoming obvious LaDainian Tomlinson has lost some of his burst and explosiveness. Pittsburgh ranks No. 1 in total defense, second in rush defense yielding 69.2 yards on the ground per game. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Seba also disagreed with those books that have Buffalo more than a four-point home favorite against Cleveland on Monday night, even though LVSC sent-out Bills minus 5 ½. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]“No way can you lay all of those points with the Bills the way they are playing,” he said. “It’s just too many points.” [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Buffalo is off consecutive division losses to the Dolphins, Jets and Patriots. The Bills only have four sacks in their last five games, desperately missing star pass rusher Aaron Schobel. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The Bills also have had trouble running the ball, rushing for just 90 yards during the past two weeks on 35 carries for a 2.5 average. The Browns have three extra days rest and their offense seems to have picked up with the insertion of Brady Quinn at quarterback. [/FONT]

Marlo · Nov 10, 2008

NFL Briefs
November 10, 2008

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Defensive starters Nick Barnett of Green Bay and Mike McKenzie of New Orleans both will miss the rest of the season with knee injuries.

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McCarthy said coaches were discussing plans to replace Barnett, including using backup Desmond Bishop or moving outside linebackers A.J. Hawk or Brandon Chillar to the middle.
Barnett was injured on the Vikings' first drive of the second half while trying to tackle Peterson.
``I shot downhill, fast, trying to get a shot on him, and he cut back,'' Barnett said after Sunday's game. ``So I tried to cut, and it was just bad footing.''
Vikings running back Chester Taylor turned a short pass into a 47-yard touchdown on the next play after Barnett's immediate replacement, Bishop, blew the coverage.
``I definitely could've done better,'' Bishop said after the game. ``The touchdown I gave up was bad.''
Saints cornerback McKenzie fractured his right kneecap on Sunday and New Orleans coach Sean Payton said McKenzie will have surgery this week and be placed on injured reserve.
McKenzie had come back this season from a torn ligament in his right knee and had regained his starting job when his latest injury occurred Sunday in a loss at Atlanta.
Clinton Portis was unable to practice because of a sprained knee, and coach Jim Zorn said the running back is ``50-50'' for Sunday night's game against Dallas.
Portis bruised his knee on the final play of the first quarter of last week's 23-6 loss to the Steelers, but returned for the next series and finished the game. The pain got progressively worse after treatment following the game, however, and Zorn said Monday that Portis has a bone bruise on the femur as well as a sprain.
Portis is second in the league in rushing with 995 yards on 200 carries.
``He's questionable,'' Zorn said. ``I'd say there's a 50-50 chance. I'm hoping that he'll be even better than that. Another day of rest, and then we'll see how he comes in on Wednesday. ... We've got to get the pain out of the knee and see how he progresses along.''
Portis' absence from a major game against a division rival would be tough to overcome. He's been the engine of the offense, and his primary backup, Ladell Betts, has missed the last three games with a more severe knee injury. Shaun Alexander, signed after Betts got hurt, has contributed little, and the other running back on the roster, Rock Cartwright, is heavily involved with special teams.
Offensive tackle Andrew Whitworth was stunned John Henderson got the same $10,000 fine from the NFL for their on-field fight, even though the Jaguars defensive tackle instigated it.
Henderson drew a hands-to-the-face penalty and knocked off Whitworth's helmet during the third quarter of the Bengals' 21-19 victory on Nov. 2, Cincinnati's first win of the season. Henderson then shoved his left hand into the lineman's unprotected face, apparently trying to gouge his eyes.
Whitworth pulled away and took a few left-handed swings at Henderson, who was still wearing his helmet. Both players were ejected and penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct.
On Friday, both players were fined $10,000 by the league for fighting. Henderson got an additional $5,000 fine for the hands-to-the-face penalty.
Whitworth said Monday he expected a fine because he was ejected, but thought Henderson would get a harsher punishment for his role.
``I expected mine for retaliating, I guess you could say, and throwing a punch,'' said Whitworth, who plans to appeal the fine. ``But I think him getting the same thing as me is just absurd.
``He blatantly attacked me from behind without a helmet, without any restraint. He was definitely going to try and cause physical harm, and he gets $10,000. It doesn't make any sense, not at all.''
A day before the game against Jacksonville, Whitworth took the Bengals' offense aside and gave a pep talk about not letting teams push them around. Several players said Whitworth's comments and his actions inspired them.
``We want to start playing with pride and toughness and stop worrying about every little detail,'' he said.
Linebacker Darryl Blackstock was added to the roster, having served a four-game suspension for using a nutritional supplement that contained a substance banned by the NFL.
Blackstock completed his suspension by sitting out a 21-19 win over Jacksonville on Nov. 2. The Bengals (1-8) then had their bye week. Blackstock played in the first five games this season, starting one, and had four tackles on defense.
To open a roster spot, the Bengals waived cornerback Geoffrey Pope, a first-year player from Howard. Pope played in three games and was on the practice squad for five games.
The Colts have the look of a team on the verge of turning its season around.
After a shaky 3-4 start, back-to-back wins over New England and Pittsburgh have coach Tony Dungy's team back in contention for a playoff spot.
Dungy said Monday that while the 24-20 victory Sunday over the Steelers probably was the team's best overall effort of the season, it would need repeating over the last seven games.
``It's hard to, you know, win two, lose one, win one, lose one and win enough games,'' Dungy said. ``We've got a chance, coming back home, to get win No. 2 of the second half and build on it. And it will be critical to have a good performance and play better than we did against Pittsburgh.''
While the Colts haven't been mathematically eliminated from the AFC South divisional hunt, the Tennessee Titans (9-0) will be difficult to catch.
The Colts saw their two top receivers, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, get banged up against the Steelers.
Harrison, an eight-time Pro Bowl pick, suffered what was described by team officials as a concussion during the fourth quarter of the Pittsburgh game. But he was able to return for the next Colts' offensive possession and finish the game.
Dungy said that Harrison was fine despite the concussion.
``We're very, very cautious about that,'' Dungy said. ``We've had guys out for a long time with concussions.''
The Colts coach dismisses the suggestion that the 36-year-old Harrison is slowing down.
``If he wasn't getting open and wasn't getting behind people, I'd be concerned,'' Dungy said. ``But every game we seem to get him behind people. We've taken those for granted. I think we'll hit him in the future hopefully.''
Wayne, meanwhile, could be limited in practice this week with an ankle sprain. Dungy said the injury was minor.
Cornerback Charles Gordon is considering options for surgery on his broken left ankle.
Gordon suffered a gruesome injury while being tackled at the end of a punt return in Sunday's win over Green Bay. The Vikings placed him on injured reserve Monday afternoon, freeing up a roster spot. They didn't immediately announce a corresponding move.
Benny Sapp will probably replace Gordon as the third cornerback in the nickel defense. Aundrae Allison is next in line as the punt returner, and Childress said Bernard Berrian would also be considered for that role.
Next in line in the Broncos' battered backfield is free agent Alex Haynes, who signed with the team Monday after rookie Ryan Torain was placed on injured reserve with a knee injury.
Torain is the team's third tailback lost for the season in the last week. Michael Pittman (spinal cord) and Andre Hall (hand) were placed on IR last week, joining Anthony Alridge (leg), who was hurt in the preseason.
Torain tore his left ACL in Denver's 34-30 win at Cleveland on Thursday night. Making his first NFL start after missing the first half of the season with a fractured elbow, Torain gained 68 yards on 12 carries and scored a touchdown before getting hurt during an awkward tackle in the second quarter.
Selvin Young replaced him, but quickly aggravated a torn groin that had sidelined him since Oct. 5.
That left rookie fullback Peyton Hillis as the Broncos' only option in the backfield because recently promoted running back P.J. Pope was deactivated against the Browns.
Haynes is a second-year player waived by Baltimore on Aug. 30. He signed with Baltimore as an undrafted free agent out of Central Florida in 2005 and has been on the rosters of the Ravens ('05, '08) and Panthers (2005-07) before signing with Denver.
He appeared in nine games for the Panthers last season, rushing three times for 3 yards and catching three passes for 15 yards. He also had a smattering of tackles on special teams.
Coach Jim Zorn went mountain biking with President Bush again over the weekend, joining the chief executive on rides both Saturday and Sunday. The Redskins had a bye.
``He rode me into the ground,'' Zorn said. ``He's in tremendous shape, and he's a competitor. When he has a chance to play, he plays hard.''
Asked if Zorn will challenge President-elect Obama to basketball, Zorn said: ``We'd have to play H-O-R-S-E.''
Zorn didn't comment on the results of the election, but the campaign's slogans were discussed at a meeting with his assistants. ``We tried to steal some of the lines,'' Zorn said. ``We talked about how we wanted to make some change, and 'Yes, we can!'''
The Texans were so bad in a 41-13 loss to Baltimore that fans flooded local talk radio shows Monday morning calling for coach Gary Kubiak to be fired.
This was supposed to be the year for the Texans to contend for a playoff spot. Instead they look headed for another dreadful finish and high draft pick.
The Texans are 3-6 and two of their wins came against teams that were winless at the time. Things won't get any easier, with four of their last seven games against teams that made last year's playoffs.
Kubiak led the team to a 6-10 record in his first season and Houston was 8-8 last year. Simply matching the record from 2006 might be a stretch with the schedule ahead, which includes Indianapolis, Tennessee and Chicago.
The Texans set a season high with 10 penalties for 76 yards against Baltimore and had four turnovers. The 10 penalties were double their previous season high. The Ravens got five first downs from penalties alone.
``They can't go out and play the game for us,'' star receiver Andre Johnson said of the coaches. ``We have to go out there and play the game. All they do is call the plays, so you can't really sit here and say it was his (Kubiak's) fault. It's not his fault at all.''
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Marlo · Nov 10, 2008

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Marlo · Nov 10, 2008

Jets/Pats

IMHO line is pretty tight, how well will Favre perform, they lost the big game in week 2, in the game they were suppose to win. NE continues to be lower scoring, and Cassel seems to be more comfortable.

Juice is pretty sick but initial lean is to the New York Bretts in a major revenge spot.

Den/Atl

Time heals all, me thinks this line actually may go higher in favor of Atlanta. Atlanta has been dominant at home this year, and the Bronco's have been shit on the road. That defense is gonna have fits vs Norwood/Turner. Also factor in Saints offense = Bronco's offense. Who is starting for Denver at running back? Steed? Is Denver legit, they were suppose to be a middle of the road team. They started out strong, but have faded lately. I do like Shanahan with 2 weeks to prepare, like I said time heals everything.

Miami/Oakland

Miami is good, but they proved to us they should not lay DD. How well does Oakland travel here? Also Miami was a false start penalty from OT and a potential loss against Seneca Wallace. Oakland only allowed Carolina to score 17, but Carolina doesnt travel well. but backing DD in the NFL = 'an_horse'

Balti/NYG

Big win for both squads on the road last week. Buy it up to 7? Balti has stepped up since the beat down Indy put on them. NYG continue to have a balanced attack. Big game for Flacco OTR.

Houston/Indy

Indy keeps finding a way to win, and for them to lay 9 here seems a little odd, they got lucky in there win against Houston last week....but Sage has made every defense he has played against this year look like the 85 Bears. Tough to say, Indy plays well when Bob is playing, and Bob has been healthy now for 2 weeks. Like Indy here and Like them in tease down -2.

Tenn/Jacksonville

Tenn will lose, but I dont think it happens here.

Cinci/Philly

Cinci has rest and Philly comes off a tough loss. 9 is a ton on the road even against Cincy, but I think Philly sends alot of pressure here and rattles Fitzpatrick, will lay the 9 before it gets to 10.

Saints/Chiefs

Who can't be impressed by Thigpen, guy has put together 3 solid weeks in row. Bush?????? This team needs him, it takes 1 defensive player away. Tough to say, but Chiefs could be as live as hell here.

will be back with more, wifey just put supper in front of me.

SportsNut · Nov 11, 2008

Week 11 Discussion

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8:15P
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308 New England Patriots
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42%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>59%
41%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>91%
9%
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-4+100
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>41.5 -105
-3.5+110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>42 -110
-3-125
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>42 -110
-3.5+105
</TD><TD class=open id=sb13_0 width=60>41.5 -110
-3-125
</TD><TD class=open id=sb21_0 width=85>41o-113u+106
-3.5+109/-112
</TD><TD class=open id=sb12_0 width=60>42 -110
-3.5+100
</TD><TD class=open id=sb20_0 width=60>
-3.5+105
</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>41.5 -110
-3-125
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1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>413 Philadelphia Eagles
414 Cincinnati Bengals
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>1085
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>85%
15%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>89%
11%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>47%
53%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>-9.5+105
43o-112
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>-9.5+105
42u-108
</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>-9.5-110
42 -110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>-9-110
42.5 -110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb13_0 width=60>-9.5-110
42 -110
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</TD><TD class=open id=sb12_0 width=60>

</TD><TD class=open id=sb20_0 width=60>-9-110

</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>-10+110
42 -110
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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/16
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>411 Chicago Bears
412 Green Bay Packers
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>0
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/16
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>415 New Orleans Saints
416 Kansas City Chiefs
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>808
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>70%
30%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>77%
23%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>60%
40%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>-4.5-108
47.5o-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>-4.5-113
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</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>-4.5-110
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48u-105o-103
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1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>419 Minnesota Vikings
420 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>1600
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56%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>51%
49%
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7%
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-4+100
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>39.5u-106
-4+102
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-4-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>39.5 -110
-4-110
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-4-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb21_0 width=85>39.5u-104o-102
-4+104/-108
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-4-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb20_0 width=60>
-4-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>39.5 -110
-3.5-110
</TD></TR><TR id=e144867 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e144867', event)"><TD id=info style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" width=40>
</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/16
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>417 Detroit Lions
418 Carolina Panthers
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>650
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>40%
60%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>52%
48%
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20%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>39u-109
-14-108
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>39.5o-110
-14-109
</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>39.5 -110
-14-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>39.5 -110
-14-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb13_0 width=60>39.5 -110
-14.5-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb21_0 width=85>39o-112u+105
-14-107/+103
</TD><TD class=open id=sb12_0 width=60>
-14-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb20_0 width=60>
-14-115
</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>39.5 -110
-15+100
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1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>403 Oakland Raiders
404 Miami Dolphins
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>966
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>28%
72%
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n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>28%
72%
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40%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>39.5 -105
-11+100
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>38.5o-107
-10.5+102
</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>38.5 -110
-10.5-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>38.5 -110
-10.5-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb13_0 width=60>38.5 -110
-10.5-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb21_0 width=85>39u-105o-101
-11+108/-112
</TD><TD class=open id=sb12_0 width=60>
-10.5-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb20_0 width=60>

</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>38.5 -110
-12+115
</TD></TR><TR id=e144843 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e144843', event)"><TD id=info style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" width=40>http://www.sportsinsights.com/Live-Odds.aspx#
</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/16
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>401 Denver Broncos
402 Atlanta Falcons
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>1521
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>26%
74%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>41%
59%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>61%
39%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>50o-107
-4.5-104
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>51o-110
-5.5-110
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-5.5-110
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-5.5-108/+104
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-5.5-110
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-6-105
</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>51 -110
-5.5-110
</TD></TR><TR id=e144849 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e144849', event)"><TD id=info style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" width=40>http://www.sportsinsights.com/Live-Odds.aspx#
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1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>405 Baltimore Ravens
406 New York Giants
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>1125
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>17%
83%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
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</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>27%
73%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>44%
56%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>42 -105
-6.5-104
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>42u-110
-6.5-108
</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>41.5 -110
-6-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>41.5 -110
-6.5-105
</TD><TD class=open id=sb13_0 width=60>42 -110
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</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>41.5 -110
-7+110
</TD></TR><TR id=e144855 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e144855', event)"><TD id=info style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" width=40>
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1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>409 Tennessee Titans
410 Jacksonville Jaguars
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>1442
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>81%
19%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>71%
29%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>42%
58%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>-3+110
39.5 -105
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>-3+116
39.5 -105
</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>-3+105
39 -110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>-3+105
39.5 -110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb13_0 width=60>-3+100
39.5 -110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb21_0 width=85>-2.5-112/+107
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</TD><TD class=open id=sb12_0 width=60>-3+100

</TD><TD class=open id=sb20_0 width=60>-3+105

</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>-2.5-115
39.5 -110
</TD></TR><TR id=e144852 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" onclick="testHit('e144852', event)"><TD id=info style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" width=40>http://www.sportsinsights.com/Live-Odds.aspx#
</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/16
1:00P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>407 Houston Texans
408 Indianapolis Colts
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>1679
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>20%
80%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>12%
88%
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>8%
92%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>49 -105
-9+102
</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>50 -105
-9+108
</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>50 -110
-8-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>50 -110
-9-105
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-8.5-110
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-8+102/-106
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-9-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb20_0 width=60>
-8.5-110
</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>50 -110
-10+115
</TD></TR><TR id=e144876 ondblclick=highlightRow(this) style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e2e2e2" onclick="testHit('e144876', event)"><TD id=info style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" width=40>http://www.sportsinsights.com/Live-Odds.aspx#
</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/16
4:05P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>423 Arizona Cardinals
424 Seattle Seahawks
</TD><TD id=bets width=45>0
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>2%
98%
</TD><TD id=mlpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>n/a
n/a
</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>77%
23%
</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>

</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>

</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>

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Have to admit that Week 10 was not one of my inest momemnts though mostly due to the heavy action action I had spread out on the SD and Philly games.

Not going to recap much of Week 10 unless its my commentary. Injuries piling up

Pats will be w/o Thomas @ LB after already losing Harrison . This time the dropoff is HUGE to Pierre Woods . Funny the Jets just signed Ty Law . Hard to not like NYJ here . Pats are going to struggle to pressure Favre and that of course exposes the medicore secondary . Think Hobbs and Wilfork were battling minor injuries heading into the Bills game. Think Sammy Morris should return but the offense hasnt been much of a problem . Hard to not lean Jets and over ...

I have no interest in laying -9.5 with Philly . Cincy has made some progress with Fitzpatrick and while I agree Eagles feast on weak teams just dont trust them.

Saints @ KC could be high scoring . NO already thin at CB lost McKenzie this week and Glenn is questionable leaving Usama Young and Jason David as the possible starters . Looks like Bush and LJ should be back here . I hat eto lay road chalk here but NO settled for FGs and had turnovers @ ATL while KC lost its 3 straight heartbreaker how does this team continue to show up each week?? Also we know KC defense is banged up and while they held SD to 20 the Chargers had a INT , settled for FGs twice and punted when inside the KC 35 so 6 pts on 4 chances ....

Vikings stole a couple wins last 2 weeks and sort of interested in TB who is always tough at home. Just hate the -4 as -3 would be better ...

Det came away with a couple banged up DEs and really DET defense doesnt need to be losing players . Still not crazy about Carolina -14 . Just fade those DD favs and dont think about it ........

Probably another Miami under and dare I take OAK ? Another DD dog . Think Seabass could be hurt as well ....

Den has who at RB? Cle choked away a win for the 2nd consecutive week by getting manhandled in the 4th . Should be a ton of offense here with Scheffler back and Abraham huring for ATL.

Balt and NY two of the hottest teams in the NFL. Lean Balt here . Game was only a FG higher when DAL limped in and BALTjust continues to improve.

Looks like Jax got it together but not sure they can put it together to beat Tenny . ALthough Tenny continues to escape disaster IMO. On the fence .

Interested in Texans here and the over . Colts have to be feelin it after playing NE then @ Pitt . Not to mention the texans looking for some payback after the collapse earlier. Not sure Houston is capable of payback but a game I would hope they are up for ....

SD looked like shit but until Pitt gets healthy really hard to back them . They played well vs Indy minus the silly pick . Pitt banged up at corner , Big Ben sore shoulder had 42 attempts , fast Willie who knows, Heath Miler and LaMar Woodley ??

Dallas shoudl have Romo and more importantly felix jones back on offense . Skins were banged up into the bye and dont see them beatinmg a healthy Dallas twice . Portis is only like 50/50 to play....

On the fence with MNF . The Browns should benefit from the extra rest but Quinn was solid it was Winslow's fumble which killed them. Bills injury riddled on defense and w/o Schoebel doing little to rsuh the passer and already soft vs the run. Have to think while Buffalo will rise up on MNF its about time CLE is rewarded with a win. Think 2-3 L5 but could easily be 5-0 IMO......

If Cards are more then -4 @ Seattle will be interested in the home pup.

Its hard to see value in STL at the moment but would not want to lay more then a FG .

Huge game @ GB for both. Bears getting killed in the secondary , Orton could return and with Barnett out Bears might run well here.

:cheers:

cogenman · Nov 11, 2008

Good stuff sportsnut. Just to add to the injured players...

* Earnerst Graham should be limited this week (knee)
* Steven Jackson day to day (thigh)
* Clinton Portis has a 50/50 chance of playing (sprained knee)

* Matt Hasselbeck looks like he WILL return this week against the Cards

RetroVK · Nov 11, 2008

without capping .. oakland and detroit look good.

nawlins51 · Nov 11, 2008

Nut at 1st glance I lean Jets,Broncos, Ravens and Vikings. Thats what I like so far. I haven't broke anything down but thats what I lean.Until I put my power rankings in play and break them down further thats it. Things can change.

SportsNut · Nov 11, 2008

cogenman said:
Good stuff sportsnut. Just to add to the injured players...

* Earnerst Graham should be limited this week (knee)
* Steven Jackson day to day (thigh)
* Clinton Portis has a 50/50 chance of playing (sprained knee)

* Matt Hasselbeck looks like he WILL return this week against the Cards

Good stuff bro. So many I left tons of players out .

Think Graham is okay but Dunn is also banged up . Cadillac Williams might be activated as well .

Hasselback returning a tad of a bummer because Wallace was improving . Branch should also play .

Derrick Mason is questionable vs NYG as he seperated his shoulder but finish the 2nd H in pain. Figurs is his replacement .

Think both CAR RBs were a bit dinged up as well . Nothing serious but something to keep in mind. Delhomme was terrible @ OAKLAND something like a 12 passer rating .

Texans lost one LB and Ryans is banged up as well.

Boys should also have OL Kosier back and Newman at CB.

Skins should get Springs back but Jason Taylor still questionable.

Denver could be starting their FB at RB and Champ stiull questionable

OAK had 10 penalties and 5 sacks plus 2 ints and fumble on the opening kickoff. CAR had 4play 16 yd drive after the fumble for a TD , a 69 yd TD run on poor tackling , missed a long 54 yd FG before half after picking up 39yds to attempt one , and went 6plays 21 yds for another late FG after a 55 yd punt return which gave them the cover . OAK twice had the ball at CAR 25 and manged only FGs !!!

Sammy Meatballs · Nov 11, 2008

Nut I know I had a case of Favoritis-- I will not back any more favorites in the NFL for a while after the Zona game- it was the wrong side sure but it would be nice to win-

I am not looking at much- What I am looking at is teams that I trust to bet--

I am not looking at Offense anymore, it leads you to the poorhouse---- Excpet for Texas teCh who is out of this world good.

What I am looking at is divisional DOGS which seem to win 80% of the time--

3 teams I am interested in when dogs for sure are giants, tenny and Balty--

2 are playing each other so that sucks- Tenny not sure what the line is but if less than 3 may want it--

Just going to bet on awesomse defenses- i dont care about offense at all-

Like Tennesse and Jets---

NO need to look at pats -4-- bottom line is there is no evidence that the pats are much better than jets so +4 is free points in a game that anyone can win---Jets D has some playmakers +4

Have to think the tenny should win at -3-- good D here--

Atlanta and Pittsburgh both look good, but I will not bet a favorite even vs Denver and SanDiego, who knows, what do I know? Nothing its all luck taht is why dogs seem to win and blow out favorites-- Pitts is -4 and Atl is -5.5, fuck it, I dont want any part of that shit---

Philly does blow out teams but -9.5 is like cheating, you bet Philly but they are 9.5 so there is no value at all.

The_HAMMER · Nov 11, 2008

Liking the JETS and BUCS thus far myself. Not sure about the Texans, I think a bunch of guys here from the forum could probably score on them - so the OVER looks interesting. Indy & Pit had 44 in Pittsburg now back to Indy against a team that gave up 40+ the Ravens. OVER more that likely.

Agree with the Balty assessment....they have been money in the bank like four weeks straight and not getting much credit for it. They will be in tough against Pitt but I think we could potentially see them win the division. Unfortunately they have played team with mediocre offences and putrid defenses. Nonetheless, I've road'em - hope their progress contines.

I like ZONA in Seattle myself....three's right now but thats gonna climb for sure. Also think the COWBOYS will play with some fire under their rears with the return of Romo...should be the right side against the banged up Skins.

Lean GB too for the moment...thats about it right now. Keep up the great work Nut.

Cheers.

SportsNut · Nov 11, 2008

Sammy- I think the problem your hinting at on some level is that few teams shows consistency each week . Its probably easier to play consistent defense than offense because you have to some sort of sync for the offense to work. So teams who play sound defense and run the ball do well . Which is why Tenny has done so well they basically put forward the same type game each week and dont commit many plays that hurt them. Sure they have turnovers at times and things of that nature but very rarely do they give away points on offense or give the opponent easy points via a turnover whether directly or short field .

So I think and I agree its easier to rely on defenses to show up and play consistently rather then expect an offense to be responsible for scoring xxx amount of points to cover 7 or so pt spreads . Without that balance on defense the offense will have to play near perfect on most days to outscore teams by decent or wide margins. :cheers:

Hammer- Houston lost there key linebacker 2 weeks ago and sure hurt vs Balt like many said it would. Key thing again was Rosenfals throwing an INT on 1st goal from he 1 yd line in the 1st Q . This was huge as Balt had just hit a big play to Figurs for a TD to led 7-0 . At the 1 with a fresh set of downs you should be able to tie the game up. Also baffled that Houston said they rested Slaton on purpose because he was worn down . Anyway next possession they get 1st and goal at the 6 settle for FG . So could be winning 14-7 and down 7-3. Eventually Balt is stopped and punts but Texans backed up take a safety . Then on the free kick drive win up hitting a 54 yd FG. To led 12-3 . With just 56 seconds left Houston went from their 18 to Balt 30 and kicked a fg. So down 12-6 IMO they gave away 5 pts because of the safety and the only TD was a big play . While Houston had the ball 1st & goal at 1, 1st a& goal at the 6 and on Balt's 30 mustering only 6 points when really they should walked away with 17 . To me they were -11 on offense and another -5 on defense . Worst case should be up 14-7 at half but again they self destruct repeatedly.

2nd H : Credit Balt for a medicore 1st H then driving the field on opening possession to take away some of that Houston momentum. Hou ball they drive and have 1st and 10 at the Balt 39 but again throw a pick probably another scoring chance wasted( down 19-6). Balt had real good field position but a Flacco fumble recovered for a loss , a loss on 2nd down run and inc left them with a 50 yd FG attempt they missed. Houston ball and 1st play 60 yd TD to cut it 19-13. Next drive though Balt starting moving the ball and for teh 2nd time on what would be a TD drive they had a big pass int penalty on 3rd and long . Naturally they were setup for a TD and puinch it in. Up 26-13 with 14 to play and really no running game to respect Balt was abe to just drop back and play the pass . The Houston offense went down hill quickly .

inc , sack , inc , punt

2yd pass , inc , 8yd pass , 5yd pass , INT(Balt ball at Houston 19 leads to a TD)

INT (Balt ball at Houston 13 leads to a TD)

Last possession take it to the Balt 27 with 2nd and 1 then go backwards eventually failing to get the 1st down........

So this game was all about HOUSTON mistakes specifically turnovers .

Just think even with Indy getting healthy games vs Pitt and NE can really ware a team down . With Houstons offense able to move the ball they are more attractive as dog as long as they can stay away from crucial turnovers . Its what killed them @ Minny and vs Balt 2 defenses rated ahead of Indy IMO.

Hou allowed only 152 yds net on 5 1st H possessions but allowed that many yds in the 3rd Q . The 4th Q was a joke really ...4plays 11yds punt , 4 plays 19yds TD , 3plays 11yds TD....

bewteen the INTS and safety they gave Balt 19 of the 41 pts they scored but also bewteen their sloppiness on offense they managed just 3 pts instead of 14 with 2 1st and goal situations at 1 and 6yd line . While also killing a drive on 1st down at the Balt 39 with an int probably losing a FG attempt . So quite possibly cost themselves 14 pts on offense . WHich in a fantasy world may have put Houston on top in this game.

Texans had the ball for just 23 minutes , had 4 ints , a safety , 10 penalties and basically were even yardage wise (Hou had more but I'll take away the last drive for them. Rosenfals had 280 yds passing with just a few garbage yards but 4 picks ....

In the past Houston has played terribly @ Indy . As bad as the final was I dont see a game in the past 7 where they didnt have a chance to win. Balt they self destructed badly and the lopsided result IMO isnt indicative of the game . really its 3 straight physical defenses with tenny , NE and Pitt . All games were close .

So just expecting a less then perfect outing from Indy here . :cheers:

Arizona is -3 @ Seattle and not sure but leans Hawks just hate Hasselback out so long. Zona played a toug MNF game has a short week to travel to Seattle with the Hawks having some momentum from the Phins game . As well getting healthy on offense ...

SF is -6 think thats to high . As bad as STL has been past 2 weeks cant lay this with SF ...:cheers:

MusicCityGambler · Nov 11, 2008

Leans subject to change:
TITANS -3
Don't read much into Jax beating Detroit bad. Jacksonville is still a mediocre team and once again the Titans will treat them like red headed step children. If Collins played the whole first game against Jax, Titans win by 17. The Titans will dominate Jax upfront and win.

SAINTS/CHIEFS OVER

RAVENS +6
The Ratbirds are a really solid, salty club in my opinion. They lost two games to Pittsburgh and Tennessee by a field goal. Then they didn't show up against Indy. However they've played great ball every other week. The Giants play a similar style as the Steelers and Titans and once again I would expect Baltimore to hold their own. Especially when you have the NYG coming off two emotional divison wins.

TEXANS+9
Crazy line IMO. Colts are playing better but shouldn't be favored by nearly DD against a division opponent who should be hungrier than most cases.

COWBOYS -1
I've told myself time after time to fade the Boys or not play them at all. Line seems fishy considering the Skins won SU in Dallas. Probably a small play on Dallas.

counselor · Nov 11, 2008

They must be joking having the Cowboys as favorites, right? It's a joke, correct?

SportsNut · Nov 11, 2008

counselor said:
They must be joking having the Cowboys as favorites, right? It's a joke, correct?

You have to remember they are getting 4 key players back here and still wont be 100% . Moss is banged up and Portis is 50/50 to play . Santana Moss is why WASH can succeed on offense vs Dallas if he cant stretch the field and Newman is healthy not gimpy this time around much different outcome IMO . Just hard to say how healthy either the Dal guy sor Wash guys are . Would have made this -3 DAL . Its been the DAL offense that has killed them and this is a must win for them . Its kinda imposible to forgot DAL of the past month but they were ravaged by injuries . Wash looked terrible on offense vs Pitts defense and I think DAL unit is very stout . Having a feeling Skins regress 2nd H of the season.....:cheers:

The_HAMMER · Nov 11, 2008

Nut your recap/analysis seems to be bang on....and the key factor as you mentioned: the "Texans self-destructed" which has been the case all to often this season.

Having said that....I do agree...way to many points for the Colts to laying...I'd say Texans here or nothing here but the OVER appears to be my personal preference. However, I do expect the Colts to continue to play with fire for the rest of the season, as they try to stay in the hunt for a wild-card spot. I wouldn't be totally shocked if they did cover the number.

The_HAMMER · Nov 11, 2008

MusicCityGambler said:
Leans subject to change:
TITANS -3
Don't read much into Jax beating Detroit bad. Jacksonville is still a mediocre team and once again the Titans will treat them like red headed step children. If Collins played the whole first game against Jax, Titans win by 17. The Titans will dominate Jax upfront and win.

SAINTS/CHIEFS OVER

RAVENS +6
The Ratbirds are a really solid, salty club in my opinion. They lost two games to Pittsburgh and Tennessee by a field goal. Then they didn't show up against Indy. However they've played great ball every other week. The Giants play a similar style as the Steelers and Titans and once again I would expect Baltimore to hold their own. Especially when you have the NYG coming off two emotional divison wins.

TEXANS+9
Crazy line IMO. Colts are playing better but shouldn't be favored by nearly DD against a division opponent who should be hungrier than most cases.

COWBOYS -1
I've told myself time after time to fade the Boys or not play them at all. Line seems fishy considering the Skins won SU in Dallas. Probably a small play on Dallas.

YES SIR MCG!!!!

Liking all 4 thus far....not against ya on any but probably won't touch the Texans. BOL my man. :cheers:

Sammy Meatballs · Nov 11, 2008

SportsNut said:
You have to remember they are getting 4 key players back here and still wont be 100% . Moss is banged up and Portis is 50/50 to play . Santana Moss is why WASH can succeed on offense vs Dallas if he cant stretch the field and Newman is healthy not gimpy this time around much different outcome IMO . Just hard to say how healthy either the Dal guy sor Wash guys are . Would have made this -3 DAL . Its been the DAL offense that has killed them and this is a must win for them . Its kinda imposible to forgot DAL of the past month but they were ravaged by injuries . Wash looked terrible on offense vs Pitts defense and I think DAL unit is very stout . Having a feeling Skins regress 2nd H of the season.....:cheers:

I would read local papers to find out if MOSS Is practicing because he is one player that cannot play with pain. He is a smaller guy, he runs tight routes, he is all speed, if he is not 100% he pulls himself, he did this vs steelers--

He owns Dallas, but his hamstring is hurt, if he can play 100% he is good otherwise he is not like a big 6'4 receiver that can just use his size and physical, bottom line he is not very good at under 100% because his speed is his biggest asset.

Blue_Chip · Nov 11, 2008

I'm torn on the Saints.

One argument is that they are in a bounce back spot. They got embarrassed by a division rival, and want to make a push for the playoffs.

Another argument is that the Saints were focused and ready coming off their bye week. We saw how that worked out! Injuries have plagued this team, and maybe the game against the Falcons marked the beginning of a flat effort from the black & gold.

Still, I think the Saints are good in bounce back spots, but laying points with a team that is winless on the road (consider London a neutral site) in Arrowhead Stadium when my level of confidence in this team is shot is not something I am willing to do. But I do lean Saints laying the points.

Marlo · Nov 12, 2008

Blue_Chip said:
I'm torn on the Saints.

One argument is that they are in a bounce back spot. They got embarrassed by a division rival, and want to make a push for the playoffs.

Another argument is that the Saints were focused and ready coming off their bye week. We saw how that worked out! Injuries have plagued this team, and maybe the game against the Falcons marked the beginning of a flat effort from the black & gold.

Still, I think the Saints are good in bounce back spots, but laying points with a team that is winless on the road (consider London a neutral site) in Arrowhead Stadium when my level of confidence in this team is shot is not something I am willing to do. But I do lean Saints laying the points.

Blue what's the status on Bush? he makes that offense tick. I agree with the bounceback spot. I think they either win by 2 TD's or they lose SU.

KC has played 3 games in a row now where they had the lead or had the oppurtunity to win in it the 4th quarter, when does that finally hit them. Thigpen has been playing out of this world...so when does come back to reality.

I agree with Blue here time for NO to bounceback, just not sure I can lay the pts on the road.....have to get more convinced I guess

Blue_Chip · Nov 12, 2008

Marlo Stanfield said:
Blue what's the status on Bush? he makes that offense tick.

"We’ll have a more accurate report on Wednesday," Payton said, referring to how much Bush is able to practice.

Against a team like KC, NO should hold the lead most of the game. With that being the situation, you would expect a heavy dose of power running -- Deuce, Stecker, Thomas up the middle. BUT, Sean Payton is an idiot among retards so he will continue calling passing plays and not eating the clock. Because of the moronic gameplan Payton brings to the table weekly, Bush is valuable but he shouldn't be in a game like this. In their spot, you can believe that the organization will be pushing Bush to return even if he is not ready.

brewer · Nov 12, 2008

i dont see how this ml parlay loses Car/Indy/Phi. All teams need to keep winning.

Minnesota as a dog is interesting to me, too.

brewer · Nov 12, 2008

roddy white might score 3 tds vs denver

Marlo · Nov 12, 2008

Romo ready to return, doesn't expect problems from broken pinkie

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IRVING, Texas -- Tony Romo laughed at the notion his return to the Dallas lineup will be the complete cure for the struggling Cowboys.

"We will find out on Sunday," Romo said. "A lot of different people may have gotten to a point where they feel we might not have a chance to do what we hoped to do at the beginning of the year. ... I think that is something that can bring a team together."

The Cowboys (5-4) have gone from Super Bowl favorites to third place in the NFC East by losing four of their last six. They are 1-2 since Romo broke the pinkie on his throwing hand but had the same record in the three games before he got hurt.

Romo, who returned to practice during last week's open date, is ready to get back on the field Sunday night when the Cowboys play the Redskins in Washington. Romo doesn't expect the pinkie to be a problem.

"It's getting better," Romo said Wednesday. "Every day it gets a little better and I'm confident that I'll feel pretty good for the game."

Asked what the pinkie might keep him from doing, Romo responded, "I don't know that there will be anything."

Romo said there is a "little bit of pain" taking snaps from center but described that as "no different than having a little bruise or something. You just play through it."

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Terrell Owens said it's obvious Romo is feeling better the way he is throwing the ball.

"He's trying to get a feel for what he can do and what he can't do," Owens said. "We're going to assess that, the coaches will, just like any practice. I don't think they're going to hold him back by any means."

Romo got hurt on the first play of overtime in the Cowboys' 30-24 loss at Arizona on Oct. 12.

While Dallas had struggled after a 3-0 start with Romo in the lineup, including a loss to Washington on Sept. 28, the offense was horrendous with Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger playing quarterback.

The Cowboys didn't score more than 14 points in any of those three games and won 13-9 over Tampa Bay despite a franchise-low 172 total yards. They then gained only 183 yards in 35-14 loss at the New York Giants before the much-needed open date.

Romo might not be the cure, but his return certainly won't hurt.

"He has got zip on the ball. Players see that, and I think it helps our practices," coach Wade Phillips said.

"He obviously helps, one of the best in the league," tight end Jason Witten said. "But there's other problems besides the quarterback being out. I think we all understand that."

Left guard Kyle Kosier is expected to play after missing the last six games with a right foot injury, as is cornerback Terence Newman after being out five because of a sports hernia. Both Kosier and Newman practiced Wednesday, but rookie running back Felix Jones (hamstring) sat out again.

Phillips said Romo is making all the necessary throws, from the quick short routes to deep balls and crossing routes.

The bulky wrap that Romo initially wore, which covered three fingers and made throwing difficult, has been replaced by a splint wrapped around only his pinkie with some tape on his wrist.

Being off the field was difficult for Romo.

"It has felt longer [than three games]," Romo said.

But Romo spent his time on the sideline watching from a different perspective than he did his first 3½ years with the Cowboys before becoming the starter midway through the 2006 season.

"I've done a lot of studying and a lot of thinking about the game and trying to gain an understanding of what it is we may need to do a little bit differently or what we may need to continue to do or do better," Romo said. "I feel very confident and excited going forward about things that we may have changed around, improved upon."

While another loss to a divisional rival could be hard to overcome for the Cowboys, who are already three games behind the NFC East-leading Giants and a game behind the Redskins with losses to both of them, Romo has a different idea.

"I think this team has got a great second-half run in it," Romo said. "Hopefully we'll be able to show that this week."

Marlo · Nov 12, 2008

Buy or Sell - Week 11
November 11, 2008
By ASA

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Each week I will focus on teams you might want to “buy” or “sell” in the short term based on a number of factors including scheduling, how they are currently playing, injuries, etc… Here are my recommendations in this week’s article.

BUY – Kansas City Chiefs
Believe it or not, I’m “buying” this 1-8 team that is on the up tick. Despite the fact that they are going nowhere this year, head coach Herm Edwards has this team playing hard and believing they can win. KC has actually gone right down to the wire in each of their last three games vs. formidable opponents. They had the Jets beaten in New York until Favre threw a TD pass with 1:05 left in the game to escape with a 28-24 win. They had a 6-3 Tampa Bay team on the ropes at half leading 24-13 before Jeff Garcia completed a 24-yard TD pass with just 19 seconds left to send the game into OT. Tampa went onto win 30-27. Last Sunday they led San Diego most of the way before losing 20-19 on a missed two point conversion with just a few second left in the game. Those are three close losses but EASY covers. They have covered their last three by a combined 29 points. While all of these close losses may demoralize most teams, it appears to have rejuvenated a KC team that was used to getting thumped early in the year.
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=270 height=10><SPACER width="1" height="10" type="block"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>What’s the common ingredient in their last three games? Strong QB play. I think the Chiefs have found a hidden gem in QB Tyler Thigpen. Since Thigpen took over the starting role three weeks ago, the Chiefs have easily covered each game and as I stated, they have had a chance to win each game out right. Thigpen has looked like a grizzled veteran in his starts this year completing 66 of his 102 passes (65%) for 710 yards. What’s even more impressive are his six touchdowns and NO interceptions. It’s no coincidence that this Kansas City team was averaging only 12.5 PPG before Thigpen took over and 23 PPG since.
Their defense as a whole has been disappointing and especially their rush defense. However, they have showed signs of life the last two weeks holding Tampa to just 92 yards on the ground and San Diego to only 81. That is a positive sign. Now they will be home dogs to both New Orleans and Buffalo the next two weeks. The Chiefs have historically been one of the best home dog plays in the NFL racking up a great 41-17-2 spread record in that role dating back to 1980. After that it’s off to “offenseless” Oakland and “defenseless” Denver. I see the spread run continuing for KC so I’ll throw up the “buy” sign in their front yard over the next three of four weeks.
SELL – Arizona Cardinals
The 6-3 Cards are obviously the best team in the ultra weak NFC West, however I will “sell” them over the next few weeks. Arizona has won four of their last five games to vault to the top of the division, however I have not seen anything that “wows” me out of this team. Their two most recent wins were against teams, the Rams and Niners, that have a combined record of 4-14. They struggled big time with San Francisco at home on Monday night and needed a coaching/clock management blunder to hold on and win 29-24. Of their six wins, just three have come against teams that have winning records in Buffalo, Dallas and Miami. When we say winning records we actually mean barely winning record as those three each currently sit at just 5-4. Also, all three wins were at home. They have faced just three “upper echelon” teams (NY Jets, Carolina & Washington) and lost to each.
Zona’ lacks a running game at just 88 YPG and they have been out rushed in five of their last seven games. The only teams they were able to out tally on the ground their last seven games were St. Louis and Buffalo. Most of the offense hinges directly on the aged arm of Kurt Warner and that arm has to be ready to fall off with the number of passes he’s attempted this season. Warner has put the ball in the air an average of almost 38 times per game this season. And while he has been very solid this year, he has had a tendency in his career to turn the ball over in bunches which can be very dangerous. He’s feasted on poor defenses the last few weeks, however that is about to change.
Two of the Birds next three games will be very tough. I’d even contend that their game this Sunday @ Seattle will be a game that they will struggle. While the Seahawks certainly are among the league’s worst teams, there is a strong possibility that they get QB Matt Hasselbeck back under center for their game against Arizona this weekend. Not only that, Seattle has actually played fairly competitive football in two of their last three games. They beat up on San Francisco 34-13 three weeks ago and then nearly pulled off the upset at Miami last Sunday before falling 21-19. The Cardinals are in a tough spot off their first win on Monday Night since they moved to Arizona 20 years ago. A trip to Seattle is a definitely letdown spot. Not only that, Zona’ has not enjoyed their trips to the windy, rainy city of Seattle winning just once there since 1993 (1-6 straight up). After that it’s a home game vs. the NY Giants then off to the east coast to face Philadelphia. There you have two very tough NFC East teams both with top 10 defenses. Not only that, they are both in the top 6 in the NFL in pass defense which could spell big problems for Arizona. The Redbirds have historically been one of the worst road teams in the NFL. Dating back to the 1999 season, this team is just 16-60 straight up their last 76 trips away from Arizona. With two road games on the horizon sandwiched around a home game with possibly the best team in the NFL, the NY Giants, this Cardinal team is about to take a point spread tumble. I’ll “sell” the Birds over the next few weeks
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The_HAMMER · Nov 14, 2008

WEEK 11 Leans thus far:

Atlanta Falcons -
Washington Redskins +

Seattle Seahawks may also become a lean....not quite there yet. The pub is pounding the living daylights out of Arizona - the line hasn't budged. Could be a ML play here as well.

nawlins51 · Nov 15, 2008

BUSH out for the Saints if anybody needs to know.

Other than that I don't like shit on this card anymore. Complete garbage lines. This is usually the reason in NFL I quit betting after week 15 till the playoffs start.It looks like it may be earlier.

Marlo · Nov 15, 2008

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DENVER AT ATLANTA: The sharps loved Atlanta out of the gate here, driving an opening line of -4 all the way up to -6. It's true that no critical numbers were crossed (3 or 7), but that's still a big move considering that Denver had a few extra days to prepare. You're seeing a lot of respect for this strong Atlanta offense and stellar rookie Matt Ryan. The action stopped at -6 though, so the sharps aren't playing Atlanta at the line you're seeing right now. It's worth nothing that they didn't buy anything back on Denver though. They're waiting to see if the public takes the line higher on game day for that. Not much movement on the total. Some of the math guys like the Over here because Denver plays high scoring games much of the time as it is. This week's game is indoors, meaning conditions will be perfect for scoring. A lot of old school guys won't go Over anything in the 50's. That has served them well in recent years.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]OAKLAND AT MIAMI: Not much interest here early on. Most sharps play underdogs. It's very hard to play Oakland right now given how poorly they played the last two weeks. They just lost at home 41-6 over two games...and that was with a dead second half against Atlanta. You can't cover spreads averaging just 3 points per game! It's also an early kickoff for the Raiders on the East Coast. I talked about the "bad body clock"issues earlier this season. All of that has turned a probable dog play into a pass for the sharps. Very few would lay big points with a team like Miami. The Dolphins couldn't cover a lesser line last week against another bad body clock team.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]BALTIMORE AT NY GIANTS: This could be a great game. But, the early sharp money was actually on the Giants at -6. I'm seeing -7 right now. Why would sharps bet a favorite early when a great "defensive dog"like Baltimore is getting points? It's the third straight road game for the Ravens. That's going to scare off a lot of guys who used to bet that angle in the past. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if some guys were taking a position to come back later at a more favorable line. You saw that with New England all the time last year. The Giants are the closest thing we have to New England this year in terms of a public team that keeps winning games. You take a position under the critical number, hope it goes over the critical number, then come back over the top on the underdog at the better line. I think we'd see A LOT of sharp money come in on Baltimore at +7.5. The total has dropped from 42 down to 40.5, suggesting that defenses will rule the day. Sharps like betting Unders up North in November and December anyway. That didn't work out in the Giants/Eagles game, or Jets/Patriots this past Thursday night.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]HOUSTON AT INDIANAPOLIS: Given how badly Houston has been playing vs. good teams this year, and Indy's recent strong play (winning at Pittsburgh last week), oddsmakers were afraid of getting buried with Colts money in this game. They opened the number at a very high 9.5...only to see the sharps come in and hit Houston strong. I'm currently seeing Indiana by 7.5 or 8, which is right in the teaser window. You can bet Indianapolis will be in a lot of teasers this weekend. I wouldn't be surprised to see the line go back up to -9 to discourage that. The total moved up from 50 to 50.5, which is actually a reasonably strong move considering how few sharps will play Over totals that high. Some were confident enough to do it anyway. To this point, I can't say the sharps "love"Houston +9.5. They see value there, and positioned themselves to use the Colts in basic strategy teasers too. These guys are pros for a reason![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]TENNESSEE AT JACKSONVILLE: There's been money coming in on Jacksonville, as many sharps like going against undefeated teams in the second half of the season. The line hasn't moved off a field goal though because it's such a critical number. If you want to take the home dog, you have to lay -130 on the moneyline for the privilege. You can take Tennessee -3 at +110. If a line's not going to move, sharps still find a way to get a better price on the juice. The total has gone up from 38.5 to 39.5 here. Tennessee threw a lot of passes last week. If that continues, they'll play higher scoring games that you might expect from this point on.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CHICAGO AT GREEN BAY: There was early underdog and Under sentiment here, as the line dropped from Green Bay -4 to -3.5, and the total from 44 to 42.5. Early week news suggested that Kyle Orton was going to try and play this week. That's good news for the Bears, and helps the Under because he's more conservative than Rex Grossman. To me this is an information move. I don't think the sharps want to bet on Grossman again. Many took a shot on him vs. Tennessee last week and lost their money. They'll bet on Orton for sure as a dog, particularly with Green Bay coming off a pair of nailbiters the last two weeks. It's supposed to be cold in the Midwest too this week. If the forecast is bad, look for that total to drop even more. Then, marvel that the sharps got Under 44 in a bad weather game![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]PHILADELPHIA AT CINCINNATI: The big move here was on the total, which dropped from 43 down to 41. I expect that's weather related, because Philadelphia isn't really playing defensive battles on the road this year. Cincy's defense has been better than expected though. That and a bye week could inspire a good result for the Bengals. The team side line has dropped from 9.5 to 9. Cincinnati did win the last time they took the field too. That was against struggling Jacksonville though. I think we'll see some stragglers on the Bengals come game day because sharps like home dogs who are likely to bring an effort. A bad weather forecast will definitely bring more dog and Under money.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NEW ORLEANS AT KANSAS CITY: We have rare favorite and Over sentiment from the sharps, which suggests they must really like the New Orleans offense here! That makes a lot of sense because New Orleans does have a great offense, is coming off a loss, and will be facing the tired and shorthanded defense of Kansas City. The team side line jumped from -4 to -5.5 on the Saints. The total moved up from 48 to 50 even with the chance for cold weather this weekend. Drew Brees played his college ball at Purdue, so he can handle the weather. The "default"move for sharps is usually dog and Under. When you see favorite and Over, it's best to pay attention.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DETROIT AT CAROLINA: A surprising move to the Over here, as an opener of 39 went up to 40.5. Do the sharps think Daunte Culpepper is going to start scoring touchdowns? Maybe they've penciled him in for one or two. I take that move to be more of a Carolina blowout scenario where points come easy in the second half in garbage time. The team side line hasn't moved from -14. The sharps didn't see anything last week from Culpepper that suggests he's a money guy right now. Most sharps are leaving this game alone outside of those who bet the total.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]MINNESOTA AT TAMPA BAY: There was a big Under move here from 41.5 down to 38.5. I was a bit surprised at that given Minnesota's penchant for playing high scoring games of late. Gus Frerotte is very turnover prone. That sets up easy scores for the other team. Tampa Bay just went Over at Kansas City in their last game too. Clearly the sharps expect the defenses to rule. And, Tampa Bay generally plays Unders as home favorites because they know how to run clock with a lead. I'm not a total guy, so I probably shouldn't argue against a 3-point move! Not much action on the team side, though I have seen -4 drop to -3.5 here and there. It's mostly Tampa Bay -4 everywhere as I write this.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ST. LOUIS AT SAN FRANCISCO: Not much movement in this one. What's happened here is a rare favorite and Under combo. The team side line has gone up a half a point from -6 to -6.5 for the Niners. The total has dropped a point from 44.5 to 43.5. What's up with that? I'm guessing it's Mike Singletary. If you respect a head coach, and he's defensive-minded, then the money comes in on his team and the Under. If he's a favorite, you get the relatively odd favorite and Under combination. These were relatively small moves though, with more sentiment on the total play. It's hard for sharps to lay points with bad teams. Most sharps passed on the dog because St. Louis doesn't look like they're trying any more. The few who bet swallowed hard and laid 6 points with a bad team hoping the new coach changes the losing mindset.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ARIZONA AT SEATTLE: Early money on Arizona -1.5 here, lifting the line up to -2.5 with extra juice or -3 with reduced juice. Arizona won at St. Louis two weeks ago in a similar divisional road favorite spot. The sharps were impressed by that. Sure, the Cards didn't look very good this past Monday. But, Seattle rarely looks good ever. The total has dropped from 48.5 to 47.5. We're seeing a lot of totals go down this week even though scoring isn't going down across the league. That will be something to pay attention to. Arizona's clearly the sharp side here, but I don't expect any sharps to lay a field goal. They got in at the lower price.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SAN DIEGO AT PITTSBURGH: Here we have another favorite and Under combination with a good defense. Pittsburgh opened at -4, and went up to -5 fairly quickly. San Diego hasn't looked good in so long that the sharps have definitely pegged them as a go-against team right now. Remember how badly San Diego played on prior trips out East too. The total has dropped from 44 to 42. I think we've seen a drop like that on every San Diego road trip. The offense just isn't doing anything in these games, and the sharps keep taking advantage of that. They did lose the Under in London, but have cashed most others. If San Diego really is as bad as they've looked the past month, then this line might need to be higher. Are they really that bad?[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DALLAS AT WASHINGTON: The early money has come in on home underdog Washington, as +2.5 has dropped to +1.5. This is also in the teaser window. Really, only Indianapolis and Washington are in the sweet spots right now, so those teams will be in a lot of teasers this weekend. The total has come WAY down from 46 to 42.5, in the biggest move of the week. Some of that is weather related. And, there's some though that Tony Romo will be rusty from his long layoff as he finally returns to the lineup. There's also a bit of a hedge there. If Washington loses, it's probably because they don't score many points (as you saw in the MNF loss to Pittsburgh). Smart way to play it if you think Romo is going to be rusty. If he plays well though, it's going to spike two different bets.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CLEVELAND AT BUFFALO: Buffalo opened at -4 in this Monday Night game, and has been bet up to -5. That came on reports earlier in this week that the Browns players were calling each other quitters. There's nothing from recent Bills games to inspire confidence, so that has to be an anti-Browns move. The total dropped from 43 to 42. The early week forecasts weren't very pretty for Sunday and Monday, so we saw a lot of weather related drops. These guys played in a blizzard in Cleveland last year. I would expect to see a lot of game day action on this one once everyone has a chance to focus on the game. If the public hits the home favorite (as they often do), sharp money will come in on the Browns probably at +6.[/FONT]

Milos NS · Nov 15, 2008

Nice writeups guys...

I really like this week OVER at Saints game. The over is 11-2-1 in the Saints’ past 14 games. Saints are really bad in defence and KC have some injured linebackers, so I think both teams will go close to 30 pts.

spiderman · Nov 16, 2008

Thoughts on the Bears game, both spread (3.5) and total (43.5)?

GB throws very well, and the Bears haven't slowed down even some of the worst QB's in the league. Detroit threw on them, and last week Kerry Collins did the same. A lot of questions have come up this week about the defensive scheme, but Lovie Smith continues to say the scheme isn't the problem. GB is going to come in throwing, and they obviously have some very good WR's. Can the Bears slow them down?

For GB, Nick Barnett is out, and this is not a good run stopping defensive team. The Bears running game has been on/off this season. Matt Forte has been a very good addition, but not necessarily for his great running. He catches a lot of passes, and also blocks well.

Chicago does have the potential to run the ball against GB, and the Packers should be able to throw against the Bears.

Game is in GB, where Lovie Smith has a 4-0 record.

GB is 4-5, Chicago 5-4.....

Orton should be at QB for the Bears.

Thoughts on this game?

SportsNut · Nov 16, 2008

1PM:

Bengals +9 ? : Cincy is obviously a bad team but the threat of a running game helps if Benson can continue to move the ball on the ground . Would probably lean 1st Half if I touched this game though . I rather not be in a position where I need Cincy to tie or outscore the opponent in the 2nd H. Eagles have beaten some really bad teams all located mostly in1 division STL , @ SF , @ SEA . Westbrook not 100% still and it shows.

Hotlanta -6 ? Over 51 ? : Suprised how much ATL love is out there which is disheartening. Was hoping for the its to many pts comments or the value angle. I do lean ATL as well but mostly because now DEN lost MLB Nate Webster on top of the ton of other injuries . CHamp is a G/T call but remember this team also lost LB DJ Williams recently and Boss Bailey earlier . We know they have no healthy RBs . The FB should start , Selvin Young is doubtful , Tatum Bell not in good shape and PJ Pope . This is basically RB U though so who knows what can be done as Torrain was solid last week. Denver has some extra rest and the passing game is clicking again with Scheffler back and Royal looking healthy again. Should be tons of points but I wonder does ATL try and slow the game down abit by running the ball?? Would prefer the 1st H over because we have seen how ATL sits on leads. Think NO played them tight last week the simple difference was NO settled for FGs when ATL got TDs but that even turned into NO settling for turnovers while ATL got TDs. To be honest at a full TD my lean is going to be Denver . Not much diffence bewteen DEN and last weeks Saints and look at the spreads ....not even close...Not sure I buy Mike Smith's 521 yds allowed arguement that its about the scoreboard . What would be more fitting then Jason Elam lining up to kick a game winning FG vs his former franchise ?? Problem is that means DEN covers ATS. 521 yds vs NO while a ton came in the 4th Q Saints only had 5 1st H possessions and the initial ended after 1 play when they had an INT. Then a 3 and out when they were backed up at the 9 but then had 3 quality drives but ended in FG , FG amd TOD before half. The 3rd Q was 2 punts but again the inital drive was backed up at the 10 and the next was a 3 and out . After that they had no trouble moving the ball. Down 17-6 with a 45 yd FG possible the Saints went for it and got nothing . Think NO didnt show a threat of a running game and made life a tad easier for ATLs defense . Poor job by Saints establishing the run IMO. Den will try to no matter if its Hillis or Pope.

Under Vikings / TB -4??:
On the surface the game looks like an over seeing MINNYs track record 3 straight overs and 5 of 6 , all 4 away , etc...

This is grass so that should help slow AP down along with the TB defense . Last week Minny had not 1 but 2 safeties and had a pick 6 (issue with Gus )and allowed a punt return for a TD (huge issue for Minny special teams think Blackmon's 2nd versus them and Bush remember that show??.

TB off a BYE , Minny held on to win but chatter about rift bewteen Gus and the team which is never good. Just not sure I trust TB here laying more then a FG . Minny secondary is thin as Madieu will probably not play and they lost nickel back Charles Gordon. Ole Gus has 8 INTS in his last 86 attempts which is negating the improvement of Minnys offense on some levels since the switch.

Giants -7 ?? I did lean at 1st glance to Balt thinking a TD ! Sign me up . Then reality set in and Ravens playing 3 rd straight away after winning the 1st two but 5th AWAY in 6 games . WHile Balt has improved and impressed I cant help get over the fact they were stil +2.5 @ Houston Last week or +3 @ Miami not to long ago. The defense drops a few notches on the road and the game at Houston could have been interesting had Sage not been picked off at the 1 on 1st and goal in the 1st quarter . Looks like a big number but Giants just get the job done time and time again. Balts road wins are @ Mimai , CLe and Houston . Think we see alot of FG attempts here . Had been riding Balt overs but think it stops here especially at 41 or above (worst case 24-17 game) . Think 23-13or 14 game . The weather should be an issue as its been shitty past few days and windy. Balt has Willie Anderson andMason as questionable but are expected to play but doubt they are at 100%. Even if Butler is out at safety Philips has lofty expectations as his replacement.

Lions +14.5 and over 40 ?? : Hard to want to get involved but basically just following the fade the DD fav trend of 2008. Carolina's offense gets a good opponent to bounce back versus . Hostorically CAR has not been a good fav but lets go with 31-20 prediction but could easily be 21-3 .

Raiders +10.5 ? Under 39 ? Oakland lost Walker for the year but get more important McFadden and Jamarcus back instead . Miami's weakness on defense is the pass game and well thats obviously not an OAK strong suit. Despite the 3 rime zone travel and early start still like the pts. Seattle nearly rallied and beat them last week after the sluggish start. OAK defense was great and think as long as the game stays close so does OAK effort ....think Oak could even win SU...Miami 20-14 for now.....

Texans +9 : Kinda sounded like Houston was taking last week easy. Resting Slaton and such but ya think maybe it was because Indy was on deck and they want this one bad??? We all know about the comebackand Sage gets another chance. Just think Indy off three incredibly tough opponents is worn down some and its even showing up on the inury report . @ Tenn , vs NE and @ Pitt thats some Black and Blues IMO !! Houston defense banged up as well especially atLB . So over or pass for me ....Houtson +15 & over 44 /44.5 teaser would work IMO

GB -3.5 buy to -3 : Packers desperate for a WIN now after losing by 3 in OT @ Tenny and by 1 @ Minny . Just looking at CHI season they havent lived up to the defeat @ Indy because the defense especially vs the pass has struggled and been vulnerable. Enter Aaron Rodgers and the Bears swept them in 2007.

Saints and over (1st H ?) : Its just hard to see KC bouncing back again after NOW 3 consecutive heartbreaking , last minute defeats . This is the cheapet line the had and possibly best team they faced . Caught +14 at SD and NYJ where SD lost @ London to these Aints ! Then a very medicore TB road team was like -9 . Granted NO has injuries but neither secondary is decent and NO can really cause chaos with COlston back for the KC youngsters . Saints win 31-24....so lean over as well at least SAINTS TT over if we can get 28 or less !

Not sure at all about the game in Jax . To tough to fade Tenny at leass then a FG but not sure how healthy that defense is . Jags could presen some problems would take +3.5 if I ever could.....

HOUSTON_NYG _UNDER TB_ and probably either Saints or over in that on look to be my strongest 4 early ones .....

Not sure about the rest lean SD , DAL < DAL UNDER.

:cheers:GL ALL

Sammy Meatballs · Nov 16, 2008

Hey Nut i read that post somehwere lol did u steal it?

Aztec4Life · Nov 16, 2008

Marlo - The Seahawks get Hasselbeck, Branch, and Engram back this week. Fading Seattle, at Qwest, with a healthy offense is NEVER easy...ever.

Now that Seattle might actually have a solid passing attack, it could really open things up offensively. And, you have to wonder...is Arizona going to be emotionally drained from that dramatic win against San Fran last week?

Line is Seattle +3...

:shake:

Marlo · Nov 16, 2008

I didnt write that above, that is widely available on the internet.

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