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[reNew Orleans]

NBA

<table class="matchupBox fontsize10" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="banner"><td colspan="2">NBA - Dec 08 </td></tr><tr class="oddRow"><td class="leftColumn"><small>4:35 PM</small></td><td class="rightColumn"><table class="" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="rotCell">701</td><td class="teamCell">CHARLOTTE</td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822218_3_0_7_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+7-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822218_3_2_-186_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">o186-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell">
</td></tr><tr><td class="rotCell">702</td><td class="teamCell">MIAMI</td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822218_3_1_-7_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-7-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822218_3_3_186_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">u186-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell">
</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr class="evenRow"><td class="leftColumn"><small>5:05 PM</small></td><td class="rightColumn"><table class="" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="rotCell">703</td><td class="teamCell">GOLDEN STATE</td><td class="selectCell">
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</td></tr><tr><td class="rotCell">704</td><td class="teamCell">OKLAHOMA CITY</td><td class="selectCell">
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</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr class="oddRow"><td class="leftColumn"><small>5:05 PM</small></td><td class="rightColumn"><table class="" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="rotCell">705</td><td class="teamCell">HOUSTON</td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822220_3_0_-7_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-7-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822220_3_2_-192_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">o192-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell">
</td></tr><tr><td class="rotCell">706</td><td class="teamCell">MEMPHIS</td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822220_3_1_7_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+7-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822220_3_3_192_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">u192-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell">
</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr class="evenRow"><td class="leftColumn"><small>7:35 PM</small></td><td class="rightColumn"><table class="" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="rotCell">707</td><td class="teamCell">ORLANDO</td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822221_3_0_-4_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-4-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822221_3_2_-193.5_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">o193½-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell">
</td></tr><tr><td class="rotCell">708</td><td class="teamCell">LA CLIPPERS</td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822221_3_1_4_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+4-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell"><label class=""><input name="game" value="822221_3_3_193.5_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">u193½-110 </label></td><td class="selectCell">
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<table bgcolor="#c48f1b" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="oddsText_odd"><td style="position: relative;" valign="bottom" width="100%"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td height="13">12/08 7:35 PM</td> <td align="right">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>701 Charlotte</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>702 Miami</td> <td>
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
</td> <td class="oddsText_odd" align="center" valign="bottom" width="58" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> 188
-7.5 </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_odd" align="center" valign="bottom" width="61" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_odd" align="center" valign="bottom" width="61" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_odd" align="center" valign="bottom" width="59" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> </tr> <tr class="oddsText_even"> <td style="position: relative;" valign="bottom" width="100%"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="13">12/08 8:05 PM</td> <td align="right"></td> </tr> <tr> <td>703 Golden State</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>704 Oklahoma City</td> <td>
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> NO OVERNIGHT LINE
GS-G-Jackson-Doubtful, F-Maggette-Questionable

</td> <td class="oddsText_even" align="center" valign="bottom" width="58" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr>
</nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_even" align="center" valign="bottom" width="61" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_even" align="center" valign="bottom" width="61" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_even" align="center" valign="bottom" width="59" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> </tr> <tr class="oddsText_odd"> <td style="position: relative;" valign="bottom" width="100%"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="13">12/08 8:05 PM</td> <td align="right"></td> </tr> <tr> <td>705 Houston</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>706 Memphis</td> <td>
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> NBA-TV

</td> <td class="oddsText_odd" align="center" valign="bottom" width="58" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> -6.5
190½</nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_odd" align="center" valign="bottom" width="61" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_odd" align="center" valign="bottom" width="61" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_odd" align="center" valign="bottom" width="59" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> </tr> <tr class="oddsText_even"> <td style="position: relative;" valign="bottom" width="100%"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="13">12/08 10:35 PM</td> <td align="right">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>707 Orlando</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>708 LA Clippers</td> <td>
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
</td> <td class="oddsText_even" align="center" valign="bottom" width="58" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> -3.5
196</nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_even" align="center" valign="bottom" width="61" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_even" align="center" valign="bottom" width="61" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> <td class="oddsText_even" align="center" valign="bottom" width="59" nowrap="nowrap"><nobr> </nobr></td> </tr></tbody></table>

 

[JPicks]

renew--do you have aim or gmail or anything to chat on? New Orleans/sugar bowl stuff

 

[JPicks]

No Sean May or Gerald Wallace for the Cats.

 

[broadwayjoe]

grizzlies for me tomorrow...

 

[SportsNut]

Under Grizz

GSW maybe and over

Orlando and over

 

[tuck321]

when I went to the Charlotte.com they were saying Wallace missing was unclear. Where did you read he was definitely out?

 

[JPicks]

ESPN and Rotoworld has him out for a game or two to attend a funeral.

 

[t-dot]

LAC's

The Magic are on a long Western swing. The Clipps are the first game, then they have Portland on a B2B, Suns, Utah B2B, and then GS. I would guess the Magic overlook the Clipps and look ahead to the rest of their western swing.

 

[tuck321]

Right now before refs I am leaning under in LA and over in Grizz land. These are some what robot like picks. Orlando usually plays under first game of a b-b and the Clippers have been a dead under at home on Monday. Houston game just see no real reason to assume the Grizz over streak ends here. They certainly owe Houstion nothing but pain and assuming they go quietly tomorrow after losing by 19 seems silly. Their first games this year vs the Spurs and Houston both went dead under. The next Spurs game went through the roof. Why not the same reversal here? Far from a complete settled opinion. Very far from betting anything. Like the Grizz a little as a dog.
T-dot usually it does not work that way. Usually when you see a lot of tough teams coming and you have a weaker one first you try and beat them to help your playoff chances because you know you can lose those other games. Orlando's road wins have been low quality but Clippers while having real ability have not shown enough to me to bet on here. Honestly lean the other way.

 

[tuck321]

Oh, was thinking vaguely about over in the Bobcat team total. Not sure I want that if Wallace is out.

 

[txtennisboy]

clippers are getting better....just can't seem to close....clip show 1st half

 

[Inspekdah]

Heat/Houston teaser...

Houston won't lose this game SU.

 

[tuck321]

Not playing the Grizz. Just makes no sense. Houston wins by more than this spread almost every time they win on the road.

 

[SportsNut]

Who knows what I end up with ...

Under 191 Houston probably stick with this play see no reason really not to with Memphis making some changes to its starting lineup to emphasize defense ....

Over 114 1st Half and Over 219 GSW - Played it recently because cant see it go lower and depends on who actually plays here and how healthy guys are if I stick with it ....

LAC is improving but 1st game back vs 1st game out West just have to see how I weigh that ..

Not sure about Miami game with Wallace and May looking out. Charlotte has enough 2/3 players to fill in for Wallace but no size vs Miami could be trouble....payback for earlier loss as well

Home Court ...

I always say when weighing what home court is worth people who say ist 3 points need to look alot closer at the line. When the line came out Wallace wasnt officially out and it opened -7.5 Miami while it was Charlotte -2.5 at home earlier in the season ....Miami has probably been a tad better then expected nice record but not the toughest schedule yet either ...Charlotte probably what was expected .....

We see Char an easy home win and cover laying -2.5 flip Home court a month later and we have Miami -7.5 a nice 10 PT SWING !

I think Home Court on AVG is worth a 9 pt swing if you pay close attention all season. Like anything its not an exact science because things contribute to short terms fluctuations and even 3-4-5 weeks later its impossible to weigh things on a level playing field....

I am not saying its correct or incorrect but you can expect about a 9 pt differential...If I recall another one was Philly laying -6 at home to Chi last week and went to Chi off the loss catching 3 pts ....different because the outcomes pointed to the lines being off a tad but again 9 pt differential...

:shake:

 

[SF_capper]

warriors win today

 

[Inspekdah]

Warriors Team Total Over, TT Over 1H
Warriors/City O 1H
Warriors/City Game Over

Up to 220

Rockets and Heat win SU IMO. That's about all I feel confident in.

 

[JPicks]

The team that has won SU in the Miami/Charlotte series over the L10 is 9-1 ATS with the only non cover being a 12 point Charlotte win last year when they were 18 point favs over a tanking Heat team.