Monday 11/04/13 NBA discussion thread

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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-7.5 2.000[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]04:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+7.5 1.909[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+5 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Over 206.5 1.909[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]07:35 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Los Angeles Clippers[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-5 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Under 206.5 2.000[/TD]
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[divol]

Cleveland gets -2 and 195 total.

 

[askias]

Interested in the Grizz when they post it.

 

[j3pj3p]

anyone know if Bynum playing tomorrow?

 

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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-7 1.935[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.323[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+7 1.971[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 3.730[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]503[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+2 1.935[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 2.100[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-2 1.971[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.826[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+11.5 1.926[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-11.5 1.980[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.121[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+5 1.917[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 2.710[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-5 1.990[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.526[/TD]
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[paradox]

Already locked on GSW -7. Now that teams have seen what the Sixers can do, they won't underestimate them anymore. Curry should have a great game, and i see GSW winning by double digits.

 

[play ball]

Warriors -7 at 76ers...think I like home team. Gs not going to score as easily on road as they have at home and this 76ers squad is well coached and plays hard to the end.

Twolves at Cavs -2....min off big win last night at msg...how they do in b2b? Think I pass... but I like this twolves team..nice pickup of kevin martin and they are always dangerous when Love is healthy.

Celts at Grizz -11.5..Are Grizz type of team that can roll to a 20pt lead? Celts are not good on road. Mem off two road losses and now in their home opener..could be a woodshed type game.

Rox at Clips -5...hmmm...Clips ran with Gs and that worked out well at home...Dwight back in LA...lot of front court guys in this game can't shoot ft. Hard to not like over. ..doc hasn't had much effect on Clips defensively. ..it does seem they are pushing pace. I think I like Clips to handle business at home.

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

As a Sixer fan, I can't wait to see if MCW's length can give Curry problems on the perimeter. My guess is that Curry destroys him, but that's also what I said about Wall and Rose. Iggy coming back to Philly with another new team. He didn't really like the fans here, so I expect him to want to prove himself with a big game.

Sixers surprisingly match up well with GS, aside from MCW on Curry. That matchup will decide the game IMO.

 

[tuck321]

First bet was GS minus 2 first quarter. Lean GS for game and first half but they only look mid 50's

 

[tuck321]

Saw this at Covers


1Q Plays
: Timberwolves 2 units
: 76ers 1 unit
: Celtics 1 unit
Interesting. Could he be right? Doubt it. This season in the first quarter GS is 2-1 winning both times by monster numbers. This season in the first quarter Philadelphia is 1-2. Their only win in the first quarter was against a Miami team playing b-b after a big and draining game. Last year on the road GS was inconsistent and frequently bad. They are better now and are playing after losing a road game to the Clippers. They are going to win this game and I do expect a cover. Philadelphia I expect to do what they did in their last 2 games. Lose the first quarter and lose the first half and then come back but this is a very different team. This team wants to be the first team to beat them and cover and they are simply much better and will get their way. Their next 3 games are at an Improved Minn, Spurs and Memphis. Those are not easy games and no ragtag team survives this spot.

 

[nbafan88]

FYI...

the miami heat went out partying on halloween as a team... all dressed in halloween masks, the night before playing the nets...

makes sense

 

[nbafan88]

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[TD="class: tableTitle"]Game[/TD]
[TD="class: tableTitle"]Official 1[/TD]
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[TD="class: tableRowOdd"]Minnesota @ Cleveland[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowOdd"]James Capers[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowOdd"]Derek Richardson[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowOdd"]Gary Zielinski[/TD]
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[TD="class: tableRowEven"]Golden State @ Philadelphia[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowEven"]Tony Brothers[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowEven"]Kevin Cutler[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowEven"]Michael Smith[/TD]
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[TD="class: tableRowOdd"]Boston @ Memphis[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowOdd"]David Jones[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowOdd"]Tony Brown[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowOdd"]JT Orr[/TD]
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[TD="class: tableRowEven"]Houston @ L.A. Clippers[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowEven"]Bill Kennedy[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowEven"]Courtney Kirkland[/TD]
[TD="class: tableRowEven"]Scott Twardoski[/TD]

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[nbafan88]

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7:00 PM

501 Golden State Warriors
502 Philadelphia 76ers
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -7
211.5o-111
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -7-102
210.5o-109
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -6.5
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211
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11/04

7:00 PM

503 Minnesota Timberwolves
504 Cleveland Cavaliers
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 195.5
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-1.5-107
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 197.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 197.5u-115
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 198
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11/04

8:00 PM

505 Boston Celtics
506 Memphis Grizzlies
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[TD="class: pct"] 52%
48%
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[TD="class: pct"] 43%
57%
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 188
-11.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 185.5
-12
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 185.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 185.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 185.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook_full"] 185.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 184.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 184.5
-12
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 185.5
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11/04

10:30 PM

507 Houston Rockets
508 Los Angeles Clippers
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[TD="class: pct"] 76%
24%
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[TD="class: pct"] 79%
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 205.5o-111
-4.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 210.5
-5-106
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 210.5
-5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 210
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[tuck321]

Saw this at Covers


1Q Plays
: Timberwolves 2 units
: 76ers 1 unit
: Celtics 1 unit
Interesting. Could he be right? Doubt it. This season in the first quarter GS is 2-1 winning both times by monster numbers. This season in the first quarter Philadelphia is 1-2. Their only win in the first quarter was against a Miami team playing b-b after a big and draining game. Last year on the road GS was inconsistent and frequently bad. They are better now and are playing after losing a road game to the Clippers. They are going to win this game and I do expect a cover. Philadelphia I expect to do what they did in their last 2 games. Lose the first quarter and lose the first half and then come back but this is a very different team. This team wants to be the first team to beat them and cover and they are simply much better and will get their way. Their next 3 games are at an Improved Minn, Spurs and Memphis. Those are not easy games and no ragtag team survives this spot.

 

[tuck321]

Average play on Cleveland. Situational spot with Minn playing B-B with a major look ahead.

 

[hugh613]

Michael Carter Williams looks like he's 15...

 

[tuck321]

Currently it looks like old fart is beating young guy. GS 12 point lead is not going away with 1.22 left and Cleveland is looking good but that one I have to live though the whole game. What do I do at half time if anything in Philadelphia. GS look ahead to next 3 and play the kids. Not sure at all. Hope Cleveland survives.

 

[nbafan88]

cleveland and detroit are two teams i cannot go against at home

 

[tuck321]

Hope you are right.

 

[tuck321]

Memphis is 0-3 ATS. Hard to bet against that seriously.

 

[big_units]

cleveland has a free ride to the basket on half of their possessions...wolves aren't playing any defense and the 2h tt is 46.5 for cle...unless min does something different, cavs won't have any trouble scoring 50+

 

[tuck321]

GL done for the night.

 

[nbafan88]

That's the Philly team we all were expecting. Bravo.

 

[paradox]

Game went pretty much as i expected. GSW took the game seriously, and when Philly tried to outrun them, they went against a team that can do it better than they can.

 

[hugh613]

Might need GS to hit 130 in order for the over to hit the way the Sixers are disappearing for minutes at a time...

 

[paradox]

Like the Rockets in the late game, but like the over better, considering laying a dime on it.

 

[Mokey]

Cavs choking

 

[nbafan88]

Brutal loss on cavs -1.5