MLS Discussion Thread

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[TH="class: groupC, colspan: 5"]AWAY[/TH]
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[TH="class: pos, colspan: 2, align: left"]EASTERN CONFERENCE[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupA, colspan: 6"]OVERALL[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupB, colspan: 5"]HOME[/TH]
[TH="class: groupC space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupC, colspan: 5"]AWAY[/TH]
[TH="class: space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: gd"] [/TH]
[TH="class: pts"] [/TH]
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[TH="class: pos sortable selected, align: left"]POS[/TH]
[TH="class: team sortable, align: left"]TEAM[/TH]
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[TH="class: groupA"]P[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]W[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]D[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]L[/TH]
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[TH="class: groupA"]A[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]W[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]D[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]L[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]F[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]A[/TH]
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[TH="class: groupC"]D[/TH]
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[TH="class: groupC"]F[/TH]
[TH="class: groupC"]A[/TH]
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[TH="class: gd sortable"]GD[/TH]
[TH="class: pts sortable"]PTS[/TH]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: pos, align: left"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]Orlando City SC[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupB"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]4[/TD]
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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #81D6AC"]
[TD="class: pos, align: left"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]Montreal Impact[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
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[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]6[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: pos, align: left"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]Philadelphia Union[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
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[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]6[/TD]
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[TD="class: pos, align: left"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]New England Revolution[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupA"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]-2[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]6[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: pos, align: left"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]New York City FC[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]4[/TD]
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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]5[/TD]
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[TD="class: pos, align: left"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]Chicago Fire[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupA"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
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[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupB"]4[/TD]
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[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]5[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: pos, align: left"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]Toronto FC[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: pos, align: left"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]New York Red Bulls[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]-5[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: pos, align: left"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]DC United[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]-6[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: pos, align: left"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: team, align: left"]Columbus Crew SC[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: groupA"]5[/TD]
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[TD="class: groupB"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: groupB"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD="class: space"] [/TD]
[TD="class: gd"]-2[/TD]
[TD="class: pts"]2[/TD]
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[TH="class: pos, colspan: 2, align: left"]WESTERN CONFERENCE[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupA, colspan: 6"]OVERALL[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupB, colspan: 5"]HOME[/TH]
[TH="class: groupC space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupC, colspan: 5"]AWAY[/TH]
[TH="class: space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: gd"] [/TH]
[TH="class: pts"] [/TH]
[/TR]
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[TH="class: team sortable hide, align: left"][/TH]
[TH="class: groupA space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]P[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]W[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]D[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]L[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]F[/TH]
[TH="class: groupA"]A[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB space"] [/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]W[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]D[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]L[/TH]
[TH="class: groupB"]F[/TH]
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• P: GAMES PLAYED
• W: WINS
• D: DRAWS
• L: LOSSES
• F: GOALS FOR
• A: GOALS AGAINST
• GD: GOAL DIFFERENCE
• PTS: POINTS

 

[RetroVK]

I am thinking of learning the teams a bit this year. My favorite team (Seattle) is off to a bad start.

As an MLS novice, interested in anything anyone has to say about the league, rosters, betting angles, futures, etc. etc.

 

[KJ]

Will be watching this thread because I've tried to view the product on several occasions and just can't get into it, like the Champions Tour in golf. Have gone in with an open mind as well but just hasn't grabbed.

 

[RetroVK]

Will be watching this thread because I've tried to view the product on several occasions and just can't get into it, like the Champions Tour in golf. Have gone in with an open mind as well but just hasn't grabbed.

Maybe we can get over the hurdle together.

This is a compromise for me. I will never take the time to know all the players in the EPL, Bundesliga, French Ligue, Italian Serie etc. etc. the way Alex, you , Teeed, torontomike arizonakid do ... But I think if I limit myself to MLS, I can learn the players.

I do have good depth of understanding in regards to the sport but I am not sure I know the best angles with which to attack soccer. So I am treading lightly in number of bets and definitely treading lightly in amounts, but I have to start somewhere. I dabbled in some French Ligue and Italian Serie stuff with ok success but was using very simple angles (unders in bad weather being the one that worked great for me). I tried capping the world cup and didn't do well..,,,

My basic problem here KJ is that my normal methodology is to make a line and bet the variance. this works particularly well for me in real football and baseball, not basketball (if I exclude D$ and BB tails I am losing lifetime I think). I feel ok about the lines I create in all three though to a certain extent. I don't know how to use that methodology to create an accurate soccer line. I am seeking help here and some comraderie that might help me stick with this and learn.

 

[braves]

Home dominant league , travel is an issue, these guys fly commercial, not a lot of depth so a couple injuries here or there can hurt a team.

 

[KJ]

Maybe we can get over the hurdle together.

My basic problem here KJ is that my normal methodology is to make a line and bet the variance. this works particularly well for me in real football and baseball, not basketball (if I exclude D$ and BB tails I am losing lifetime I think). I feel ok about the lines I create in all three though to a certain extent. I don't know how to use that methodology to create an accurate soccer line. I am seeking help here and some comraderie that might help me stick with this and learn.

I'm much the novice to those guys when it comes to Europe but still feel like I'm getting a grasp on some of it. Reality is that you and I cap differently regardless of the sport. I care much more about recent results and motivation in every sport, it's the only thing I know. I don't make numbers, although being around it enough I can make a pretty educated guess if I'm up to par for any sport. But certainly not to the point that you guys do.

I just don't know anything about MLS and as a fairly new watcher in Europe (year 4) I've chosen to stick to that and still lose my share on some of the basics, but feel like I'm heading in the right direction. Some of the losses I can look back and figure out where I was wrong pretty quickly.

Sorry I can't help with the power rankings, when you throw the draw line in there, it's gotta make that a pretty tough gig, and quite frankly for the way I cap, MLS could make me a basket case.

 

[hugh613]

Like braves said, it's a very home dominated league:

<tbody>
[TD="class: xl66"]Year[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, colspan: 2"]Home[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, width: 70, colspan: 2"]Draw[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, width: 70, colspan: 2"]Away[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, width: 70, colspan: 2"]Over[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 70, colspan: 2"]Under[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66"]2016[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]51.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]27.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]20.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]51.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]48.8%[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66"]2015[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]183[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]53.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]72[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]21.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]85[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]25.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]183[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]53.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]157[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]46.2%[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66"]2014[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]146[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]46.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]89[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]28.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]78[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]24.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]175[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]54.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]148[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]45.8%[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66"]2013[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]164[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]50.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]82[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]25.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]77[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]23.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]155[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]48.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]168[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]52.0%[/TD]

</tbody>

By way of contrast, home teams in the EPL this season have won at a clip of 39.61%, La Liga 46.63%, Bundesliga 43.87%, Ligue 1 41.12%, Serie A 44.52%. If I had to provide an explanation, travel would be a huge factor (compare the distance between Columbus and Los Angeles to the distance between Leicester and London), and parity would probably be another (all these other leagues have 4 or 5 dominant teams that run rough shod over every one else, even on the road, thereby decreasing the number of home wins league wide).

As for power numbers, Jeff Sagarin does them over at USA Today, but how you would translate it to a line is beyond me. You could also use poisson distribution, which is actually pretty good at predicting lines although, at the same time, you'd have to wait until about mid season to have enough comparative data to make it worth while.

At the end of the day, MLS is really no different than any of the other sports: HFA, matchups, scheduling, etc... And much like the NFL, the West Coast/East Coast bug a boo is in full effect (I think it's either DC United or NE that can't get a result for their lives on the West Coast).

 

[RetroVK]

Wow. Great stuff gentlemen.

Do these teams generally play the same formations week in and week out? If not, is there a way to know early if a team is going to play with more men committed to the attack or defense for a given game (at least for the start of the game)?

 

[KJ]

Interesting, seems home team and over would be logical playmates but I'm assuming those odds would have the bettor eating quite a bit of....

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[RetroVK]

doubl.....oh JUICE

 

[KJ]

true, most gamblers should eat double bogey but they likely use the foot wedge

 

[RetroVK]

hand and tee lofted club is better

 

[Lareux]

I thought VK was going with double murderer there. Nobody should be eating double murderers.

:tiphat:

 

[braves]

Wow. Great stuff gentlemen.

Do these teams generally play the same formations week in and week out? If not, is there a way to know early if a team is going to play with more men committed to the attack or defense for a given game (at least for the start of the game)?

Nope, almost all the teams change their tatics depending on if they are on the road or at home. The goal for almost all these teams is a point on the road. YOu can see via twitter what kind of formation they are playing about a hour before the games.

LA seems to be the highest rated by the books , and in my opinion they are probably somewhere between 5-7 in the league.

Turf/grass. New England has the worst in the league now, advantage home team who is used to it. Seattle used to have the worst, but they changed it this year. Seems to be better.

Yankee stadium, narrowest filed in the league, shit pitch really. NYFC has been a big over team. I think they have had 1 clean sheet since they entered the league last year. Books took a while to adjust, say maybe late summer last year, now I think you can potentially see some value in looking at their unders if you can stomach it.

SUmmer, look for the Texas teams at home. The humidity is a huge factor and even with the games starting 7/8 local times, the visiting teams, mostly western teams can't handle it. Say the same for Orlando/Chicago if they have day games.

I like Seattle too, just love the fan support. THey sold their best striker this offseason. They need a #10 bad ( center mid). They apparently are in talks with a good one and will announce in a couple of weeks. They get one, they will be a strong favorite to win the league. Dallas team to beat imo. Assuming they don't sell any of their players this summer, which there is a good chance they do.

 

[braves]

there will be spots where a team will have a sat/wed/sat slate. Thats brutal for any team in this league, 3 games in 10 days. Those are spots I look at.

 

[RetroVK]

Trying to digest it all but it sounds like this is more NBAish with situational handicapping, scheduling, home/away dichotomy, motivational angles than match ups... is that a fair statement or am i already putting the carriage before the horse.

You got it Lar

 

[RetroVK]

You guys gonna make fun of me when I bet $20 on these for the next few years while I learn?

 

[braves]

Trying to digest it all but it sounds like this is more NBAish with situational handicapping, scheduling, home/away dichotomy, motivational angles than match ups... is that a fair statement or am i already putting the carriage before the horse.

You got it Lar

yeah its situational, there is a lot of parity. You don't have a Barcelona, Man City, Bayern Munich etc. ..But once you learn the players you will get a better sense of who is really valuable and who is not. A striker who scores a bunch of goals isn't necessarily a death blow if he is out, but if the center mid who controls the game is out then that makes a huge difference. CBs (center backs) are key, so if a good one is out I always look at those games.

This works for DFS as well. There seems to be a lot of dead money in the MLS stuff on there

 

[braves]

One thing to add, there has been an influx of red cards this year. League has really taken a hard line stance on tackles with studs up, kind of thrown a wrench in things with these red cards.

 

[RetroVK]

That is good news. Without referee major decisions to complain about I have to look in the mirror when I lose.... cannot have that despite how handsome i am

 

[KJ]

One thing to add, there has been an influx of red cards this year. League has really taken a hard line stance on tackles with studs up, kind of thrown a wrench in things with these red cards.

I'm paying attention now too

This is great info

 

[RetroVK]

If I follow by watching it won't take me long to figure out who you can build up on through the middle, through the wings/cross, long runs, via counter, etc. ....

Best spot for injury news?

 

[Joe Public]

I swear I thought this was going to be VK asking if the MLS was actually a viable entity. Kudos to you all for digging into this league. I admire it. I can't join you, but I do admire it.

 

[Lareux]

That is good news. Without referee major decisions to complain about I have to look in the mirror when I lose.... cannot have that despite how handsome i am

Where did you find one of those "skinny" mirrors from a carnival?

:tiphat:

 

[braves]

If I follow by watching it won't take me long to figure out who you can build up on through the middle, through the wings/cross, long runs, via counter, etc. ....

Best spot for injury news?

all the teams post their lineup a hour before the game via twitter with formation .


this link provides a weekly injury update, usually updated every friday

http://www.mlssoccer.com/injuries

also, on that site there is a Armchair Analyst series. The author does a preview of the weekend games on Friday and recap of the games on Sunday night. Very good information in these.

 

[guaranteeed]

https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/233/Tournaments/85/USA-Major-League-Soccer

gives decent previews but more importantly team stats

Portland looks to be the most dangerous offensive team so far this year, and they leave it open a bit at the back, I know it's 4-0 but might be one to keep watching with overs

 

[KJ]

Just gave it a go, first half of Portland/LA game and more of the same, not sure I've actually ever seen a goal in real time in this league. Back passes to kill a rush or decent counter and crossing passes to no one in particular...surprise surprise it's 0-0 at half. Low corner kicks that accomplish nothing as well. I'm waiting for something magical to happen but it just doesn't.

Fairly open game I guess, just nothing has really been close to a goal

 

[RetroVK]

Nice late tally by seattle

 

[KJ]

I had Galaxy over .5 and it took an own goal :rofl:

 

[braves]

De Jong should get 5 game suspension for his tackle on Nagbe, so dirty

 

[braves]

and Nagbe will be a big loss for Portland , just fyi Clowncar