MLB Monday 6/12

Wiretowire

Wiretowire

Pretty much a regular
YTD +4595
2-2 last
0-1 GS

Thanks for all the responses folks. I appreciate it. GL

All x50 each

Colo +2 1/2 -150 - Slight pitching edge to Paxton but Seabold is decent. Nice odds getting +runs.
Miami/Sea over 7 - Not sure why Miller is favored here given his last two starts and you could bet a live dog in ML Miami at +110 but over seems like a good safe bet to me in this one. I think either Miami ML or over wins.

Only 8 to choose from so that will do today.

I have the GS real projected to be 71. I normally pass the GS on short cards but if they make it the GS 76 as I expect I am going to hit them to the under. The number over or under 76 will dictate how much I go. GL
 
Thanks KJ. I think you are right about TB. I have to watch what I say about Oak. I found out the other day that Vapster is a life long Oak fan and I don't intend to piss fans off. Truth be told my problem was never with Oakland just Billy Beane. I would say the same things about Beane if he were the GM of the Yankees. Now wouldn't that have been fun. GL
 
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Wiretowire said:
Thanks KJ. I think you are right about TB. I have to watch what I say about Oak. I found out the other day that Vapster is a life long Oak fan and I don't intend to piss fans off. Truth be told my problem was never with Oakland just Billy Beane. I would say the same things about Beane if he were the GM of the Yankees. Now wouldn't that have been fun. GL
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Nevada called an emergency legislative session last week regarding the A's and they couldn't gain traction

Welcome to week 2 of that emergency session, think there's supposed to be a vote this week but I don't think the A's have the vote in their favor. What a bunch of trash that organization is and I'm pretty sure Vap would concur
 
At least the Vegas thing seems to be a soap opera. I am sure LV will get a MLB franchise. Whether that's the A's or not remains to be seen. GL
 
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Wiretowire said:
At least the Vegas thing seems to be a soap opera. I am sure LV will get a MLB franchise. Whether that's the A's or not remains to be seen. GL
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30k seat stadium on the Strip. What could go wrong?

Doubt they get many more fans than they do in Oakland lol

A's game or Texas Hold 'Em. Very basic math that these clowns can't comprehend.
 
They probably have 30K seats and 20K loge seats so the casinos can give away luxury loges to their high rollers to make the attendance seem better than any franchise in MLB. Of course there is the chance players say no thanks to the A's, how about buffet tickets instead? GL
 
Wiretowire said:
They probably have 30K seats and 20K loge seats so the casinos can give away luxury loges to their high rollers to make the attendance seem better than any franchise in MLB. Of course there is the chance players say no thanks to the A's, how about buffet tickets instead? GL
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I think it's farther away from a done deal than people expect. Current guess is they finally get a new stadium in Oakland and I know that's stepping out on a limb, but I don't think Vegas wants them
 
Yeah i live here and there is very little excitement for As as there was for knights and raiders. People love the Aviators and their beautiful little park. Very little desire to give As 400 million when schools and such underfunded
 
KJ said:
Love unders today

Expecting Tampa pitching to slow down that juggernaut in Oakland

Have a day wire!
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I was so hoping they hang a 17.5 on Eflin outs but no such luck, he kinda tempting to take the nice plus on over 18.5 outs. A’s go back home to the empty stadium and face a guy that very good at getting quick outs. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Eflin went 7 here.
 
2daBank said:
I was so hoping they hang a 17.5 on Eflin outs but no such luck, he kinda tempting to take the nice plus on over 18.5 outs. A’s go back home to the empty stadium and face a guy that very good at getting quick outs. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Eflin went 7 here.
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Wish they had a line for complete game
 
KJ said:
Wish they had a line for complete game
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Lol, def would think this park be great for him. Only problem expecting him to go real deep is A’s could turn him into a strike out pitcher. Of course he pounds the zone so I can’t imagine they will be 6-7-8 pitch at bats even if his strikeouts are elevated tonight. He has a really high percentage of called strikes. I don’t mind his k’s here, it just the juice on ov 5.5 I don’t love, I do think the volume of innings should lead him to 6+ k’s.
 
I was going to say Mike probably has the best handle on it as he lives there. GL

Thanks Inzane. I appreciate the response. GL

Thanks Bank. As much as these minors groom pitchers to throw 6 innings only I would be afraid to bet anyone going 7. But you are much better at these props than I ever was. GL
 
Why the big delay in Detroit? It's not like you are going to suddenly find a pitcher. And you are delaying my GS bets. Get with the program. GL
 
Wiretowire said:
I was going to say Mike probably has the best handle on it as he lives there. GL

Thanks Inzane. I appreciate the response. GL

Thanks Bank. As much as these minors groom pitchers to throw 6 innings only I would be afraid to bet anyone going 7. But you are much better at these props than I ever was. GL
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You not wrong, I don’t play many pitchers out totals above 17.5. Im often comfy expecting 6 innings. Any more and it turns into a bit a crap shoot. Not even cause pitchers conditioned 6 innings the goal but managers are prone to pull guys after getting 6 innings even when their pitch counts in good shape. Often depends on manager or just how much work it was for pitcher, if a guy cruises thru 6 without more than 1-2 high leverage innings they tend to give them a bit more rope. Of course my favorite is when they let pitcher come out for 7th, he gives up a infield hit or something stupid then he gets yanked! Like seriously, you trusted him to start the inning then a bloop hit changed your mind? Lol. Eflin hasn’t been past 6 on the road either but those were mostly hitter friendly parks and obviously against better lineups than Oakland. The +145 for him to pitch 6.1 innings is very tempting vs A’s but you concern is more than valid.

Dunning only needing 16 outs to cash tonight vs laa is def stronger for me, of course he -110, I don’t need Eflin to cash as often with that +145 price tag and he been very efficient. Last time facing A’s his pitch count was only at 82 I believe after 6 innings but he was pulled at that point. He had given up 3 runs and 9 hits, so I think there is def a path to going past 6 innings here, I wouldn’t exoect a’s to get 9 hits this time around (or the 3 runs), assuming he goes 6 innings and he only thrown 80 something pitches with only a handful of hits and a few runs tops I could certainly see him being allowed to go out for 7th. Another factor rays pen has been leaking a little oil thanks to the injuries they been dealing with, the 1st meeting was beginning the season when Im sure Kevin cash felt great about going to the pen to get the final 9 outs. At the moment I’d think he be more inclined to let his starter go deeper as long he pitching well.
 
One thing I have noticed is if you can see a team taking a big lead 4 or 5 runs they are more likely to see the 7th inning. GL
 
Seriously bookies put a fucking total of 9 on the Detroit game and let's play. You have had all day and I knew yesterday the total would be 9. GL
 
Wiretowire said:
Seriously bookies put a fucking total of 9 on the Detroit game and let's play. You have had all day and I knew yesterday the total would be 9. GL
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They do the same shit with pitcher props, some guys will be up overnight, others they wait forever. Makes it a real pain in the ass for me since I have to drive over to Illinios to make my plays! I’ll try to wait for them all to come out but then I’ll often lose a number on one guy they have up while I’m waiting for another. So stupid, especially cause we know damn well where number should be and where they will most likely line it! Not sure why they can’t be bothered putting them all up in a timely fashion?? It’s not that hard!
 
I agree Bank. They started doing something this year they never did previous years and that's most of the lines are up already for tomm and they never did that before 9 pm the night before. And we can't put up a line 3 hours before first pitch today? Unreal. GL
 
Here's a SHOCK!!!!!! Atlanta/Detroit total is 9. Who could have ever thought that????? OMG that's why these bookies are so unbeatable. Only took them all day to put a 9 on that game. Gosh, I wish some day I could meet one of those bookies just to shake their hand and then I could tell all my friends I touched one of them. GL
 
KJ said:
FML Snakes finally are getting national run

Very much loved living under the radar
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Yea it been great. I was thinking they might get little plus money tonight but no such luck. Phillies have finally started getting it together and for most part they never stopped being priced like a playioff team. I actually thought snakes were overpriced yesterday just cause gallen making the early ass start away from home, they still managed to pull it out, that felt like a new thing for them, I don’t expect them to come back in games they trailing when pens enter! Usually feels like they have lead and gotta hold on for dear life! Lol.

Anyone know who Phillies have piggybacking Strahm tonight? I hate when teams do this shit, it often works so I get it but so tough to cap when the 1st pitcher in only gonna go a inning or 2, guys only get to see him once then gotta adjust. Tough to cap as is, even tougher when you don’t know who the fuck coming in after starter leaves!
 
2daBank said:
Yea it been great. I was thinking they might get little plus money tonight but no such luck. Phillies have finally started getting it together and for most part they never stopped being priced like a playioff team. I actually thought snakes were overpriced yesterday just cause gallen making the early ass start away from home, they still managed to pull it out, that felt like a new thing for them, I don’t expect them to come back in games they trailing when pens enter! Usually feels like they have lead and gotta hold on for dear life! Lol.

Anyone know who Phillies have piggybacking Strahm tonight? I hate when teams do this shit, it often works so I get it but so tough to cap when the 1st pitcher in only gonna go a inning or 2, guys only get to see him once then gotta adjust. Tough to cap as is, even tougher when you don’t know who the fuck coming in after starter leaves!
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25 years I've faded our bullpen

It's actually warming up to me this season. Couple terrible beats I've seen but other than that, they've been incredible.
 
KJ said:
25 years I've faded our bullpen

It's actually warming up to me this season. Couple terrible beats I've seen but other than that, they've been incredible.
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I see it Covey scheduled to piggyback after Strahm, snakes actually saw this combo last month in Philly. They got to Strahm for a few but then covey gave them 5 solid innings.
 
KJ said:
Over

Why are we doing this in wire's thread lol
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I do like the over idea even tho I’m not a huge fan of playing full game overs, if you havnt noticed I tend to isolate overs to one team or different number of innings, dunno why other than I’ve never been as confident in overs, lol. I do feel like I’ve hit them little better this year than previous seasons. Still feel like I get caught with games with 20+ baserunners that get stranded!

Any chance roof open? It looks kinda nice.
 
Speaking of overs and since we in @Wiretowire thread, I hate playing overs in Seattle, not sure what the record is w those but sure seems like a low scoring park/team. Miller problem seems to be he has yet to develop a put away pitch, his fastball is really good and he often gets guys in the hole but he lacks secondary stuff to put them away, his swinging strike rate is far too low. His change looks promising to lefties but fish don’t have many of those and he only throws it 6-7% the time. He really needs to develop the feel and confidence in his slider, you can’t get big leaguers out with high heat no matter how good it is if they not worried bout another pitch.

I think I’d be more inclined to look at fish Ff tt ov 1.5, I think they can get 2+ off Miller. I never know with Luzardo, I will say his walks been way down his last 5-6 starts, if his command improving to that extent he shouldn’t have much trouble mowing down mariners heavy strike out lineup! I much rather play fish to score off Miller considering Luzardo current form.
 
Wiretowire said:
Still not up anywhere for me Mike but I will kill 74. GL
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Really weird why this bet is so iffy for the books. They either make money on it or not. Seems they would have it down to a science by now. Probably trying to even it out a little, which it has been. Gl if u get it.
 
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Grand Salami under 74 -330/+300

DK always comes out with the GS usually an hour or more ahead of BOL. This bet was made with BOL because DK hasn't got a GS total yet. I am seriously hoping they didn't shut out my personal access to the GS but more than likely they just haven't posted it yet. But it is damn weird BOL has it and DK doesn't. Kind of pissing me off. GL
 
Wiretowire said:
ADDING>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Grand Salami under 74 -330/+300

DK always comes out with the GS usually an hour or more ahead of BOL. This bet was made with BOL because DK hasn't got a GS total yet. I am seriously hoping they didn't shut out my personal access to the GS but more than likely they just haven't posted it yet. But it is damn weird BOL has it and DK doesn't. Kind of pissing me off. GL
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Hasn’t been up for me either bro. Last time I checked they still didn’t have e a total on tigers which I assume the delay.
 
I just checked too and all numbers are up. They even bet it down from 9 to 8 1/2 so their game total is solid. The fucking over won last night why aren't they posting it? Not like they have been hammered under for 10 times in a row. Agreed fuckers. GL
 
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