MLB Discussion (Saturday, 4/16)

[tuck321]

Weaver is 3-7 away last 10 and 2-6 away at Minn. Why is he
minus 14 at Minn? Nolasco 10-10 last 20 at home. 5-2 last 7

 

[nbafan88]

Can we turn this into the Saturday discussion thread?

 

[nbafan88]

Weaver is 3-7 away last 10 and 2-6 away at Minn. Why is he
minus 14 at Minn? Nolasco 10-10 last 20 at home. 5-2 last 7

Because the twins are 1-9, nolasco notoriously sucks in day games and the twins don't hit homers. Real question is why is the line going towards the twins with so much action on the Angels...


Weaver is 5-0 with a 2.57 ERA in last eight starts against the Twins, who he did not face last year. Kurt Suzuki, who is in a 2-for-23 slump, is a .288 hitter versus Weaver and Dozier is 2 for 10.The Angels starter cruised in giving up a run in six innings in Sunday's 3-1 home victory over Texas in a season debut pushed back because of neck and shoulder problems."I was happy to get back out there. I pitched like I did the last 11 years," he said. "My arm slot is coming back. There's no tightness in my shoulder, no tightness in my back, no tightness in my hip, so I'm feeling healthy."

 

[nbafan88]

A little surprised the total in the Bronx is 7.5 & not 7. But could just be because of C.Cs poor year last year. This should be a really emotional one for Sabathia as its his first home start since going into rehab and he has really struggled at home.

Felix with tremendous numbers in Yankee stadium and both pitchers have good numbers with Foster.

 

[BringInTheLefty]

Weaver (1-0, 1.50 ERA) went 3-10 with a major league-worst 6.01 ERA on the road last season, with his 10 defeats tying for the most in baseball. He was the first starter in three seasons to finish with a road ERA higher than 6, and his 18 homers allowed tied for the majors' second-highest road total.
The right-hander will be up against a Minnesota club that has scored 19 runs to rank last in the majors with an AL-worst four homers.

 

[hugh613]

Weaver is 3-7 away last 10 and 2-6 away at Minn. Why is he
minus 14 at Minn? Nolasco 10-10 last 20 at home. 5-2 last 7

Weaver hasn't started a game at Target since late 2013, and all his other starts date back to the start of 2012 or earlier. Nolasco's made 2 starts since the end of May last season, and only won the 5th spot in the rotation this spring because of how poorly Tyler Duffey pitched in comparison.

As nbafan said, the only relevant numbers here are 1 and 9...

 

[aplous]

Nolasco looked very sharp at the K last weekend FWIW

 

[nbafan88]

Can a mod change the thread title to Saturday discussion?

 

[edou1x]

Erasmo Ramirez on 6+ day rest= 1.40 WHIP
Erasmo Ramire on DAY games= 1.40 WHIP
Erasmo Ramirez on April= 1.56 WHIP lifetime and 6.79ERA. i should take CWS@+money, but danks bad record vs TB + danks off a 5 runs allowed is 4-17SU since 2007.

so wanted to bet O3.5/4 1St half but culbreth fucking under ump.

don't know what to to. and there is also the double shut out angle which slightly favors TB here remembering BC's thread.

 

[kdog]

Cubs open at -290 and go UP. Who the hell bets that?

I bet Atlanta at +160 & Minnesota +100 last night, wouldn't bet either at current prices.

Felix is cheap but M's never seem to score for him & CC was decent 1st time out this season. U7.5 -110 here.

Pretty stiff breeze blowing IN at Fenway with air density of 76. Should help keep fly ball prone Estrada in the park and Jays murder lefties. Still like Boston enough for lunch money Bos/U8 parlay at ~2.2/1.

Both lineups can rake but Gallardo > Lewis. Orioles +105. On the flip side neither Cleveland or the Mets are all that with the sticks but Harvey > Tomlin. Mets -125.

 

[Play2win]

Fwiw
COLORADO is 33-25 (+15.4 Units) against the money line in day games over the last 2 seasons.

 

[tuck321]

Felix is cheap but M's never seem to score for him & CC was decent 1st time out this season. U7.5 -110 here
Very standard for Felix away in the day

 

[Play2win]

Fwiw
COLORADO is 33-25 (+15.4 Units) against the money line in day games over the last 2 seasons.

and Col as a team batting .296 through 1st 10 games, best in mlb

 

[kdog]

and Col as a team batting .296 through 1st 10 games, best in mlb

Need to filter that with 6 were at Coors, 3 in Arizona & 1 at Wrigley. None of those equate even remotely with a pitcher's park. Trevor Story not gonna hit at the pace he's started at either.

 

[edou1x]

CoLLin McHugh 1.07 ERA in April lifetime

HPU=Sam Holbrook and NGT and STR and o:STR and HF and 2007<=season :

43-18 (1.16, 70.5%)

avg line: -148.3 / 136.6

on / against: +$1,793 / -$2,011

ROI: +19.8% / -33.0%

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enough for HOU 1St5 ML for me

 

[Play2win]

And

MCHUGH is 12-2 (+11.0 Units) against the money line in home games when playing against a team with a winning record over the last 3 seasons. (Team's Record)

 

[nbafan88]

Yanks saw 165 pitches yesterday and scored 1 run. Wow

 

[nbafan88]

On Seattle/nyy under 7.5 -105 small

 

[edou1x]

with over ump larry vanover who carries well his family name and with the struggles of cueto and kazmir in previous match up this season, like the O1st5 innings.
after allowing 12 runs in SF, the most pitcher friendly park, why shouldn't they allow at least 4 runs today??

 

[tipyerbartender1]

Cueto's first one v LAD was a little fluky. Think he was peppered with soft singles in the first inning to the tune of five runs, then settled in.

 

[edou1x]

by the way dodgers at night vs righties and total=7 are 66%O/U since 2013
cueto is better in day games

 

[tuck321]

Tomlin with ump

Date	Home - Road	Home Starter	Road Starter	Line	Result	O/U
08/20/15	NYY 2 - CLE 3	I. Nova	J. Tomlin	-148/8.5	Road	U
04/19/12	SEA 1 - CLE 2	F. Hernandez	J. Tomlin	-147/7	Road	U
04/05/11	CLE 3 - BOS 1	J. Tomlin	J. Beckett	150/9	Home	U
07/27/10	CLE 4 - NYY 1	J. Tomlin	C. Sabathia	224/9	Home

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[tipyerbartender1]

Tomlin's a bulldog, but he gets too much of the plate. He needs pinpoint control and a friendly ump. I don't trust him.

 

[tuck321]

There are also issues in the day and on 6+. Still thinking

 

[tipyerbartender1]

He's like on 16+, with all the rain and snow.

 

[austinhous]

Niese ERA goes up a full point on 4 days rest.

Since 2014:
86 runs allowed in 127.2 IP on 4 days rest; 12-6-4 O/U
71 runs allowed in 189.1 IP on 5 days rest; 14-13-3 O/U

 

[tuck321]

I usually just play over first 5. New team might effect it

 

[tuck321]

Marvel at Miller a listed favorite.Not as bad as Weaver on the road but still!

 

[mrpickem]

Notice Dodgers keeping Utley in lineup even after Turner and Pederson return. Don't think this continues, but gotta ride a hot stick. THinking I may jump on LAD...any other jumpers?

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[TD="class: Ldata"] Denard Span [/TD]
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[TD="class: Cdata"] 9 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .244 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Chase Utley [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 0 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 3 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .324 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Joe Panik [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 1 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 7 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .237 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Corey Seager [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 0 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .268 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Buster Posey [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .290 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Justin Turner [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 0 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .270 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Hunter Pence [/TD]
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[TD="class: Cdata"] 10 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .238 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Adrian Gonzalez [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 1 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .364 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Brandon Belt [/TD]
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[TD="class: Cdata"] 7 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .300 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Matt Duffy [/TD]
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[TD="class: Cdata"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .205 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Enrique Hernandez [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 7 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .440 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] SS [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Brandon Crawford [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .242 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Cdata"] .276 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Trayce Thompson [/TD]
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[TD="class: Cdata"] 3 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .350 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Angel Pagan [/TD]
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[TD="class: Cdata"] .385 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 4"] Scott Kazmir (1-0) 5.40 [/TD]
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