MLB Discussion for the Week of 5/23/2016

[nbafan88]

:cheers3:

 

[scarf31]

For Monday...

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[TH="class: linesHeader"]Run Line[/TH]
[TH="class: linesHeader"]Money Line[/TH]
[TH="class: linesHeader"]Total Runs[/TH]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>New York Mets at Washington Nationals</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]901 New York Mets B Colon - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_0" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -175[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_0" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +137 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_0" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o7½ -115[/TD]
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[TD]7:05PM[/TD]
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[TD]902 Washington Nationals G Gonzalez - L[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_0" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +155[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_0" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -147 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_0" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u7½ -105[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Chicago Cubs at St. Louis Cardinals</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]903 Chicago Cubs J Lackey - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_1" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +145[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_1" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -114 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_1" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o7½ -110[/TD]
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[TD]8:15PM[/TD]
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[TD]904 St. Louis Cardinals A Wainwright - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_1" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -165[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_1" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +104 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_1" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u7½ -110[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Cincinnati Reds at Los Angeles Dodgers</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]905 Cincinnati Reds B Finnegan - L[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_2" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ +125[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_2" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +318 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_2" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o6½ -105[/TD]
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[TD]10:10PM[/TD]
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[TD]906 Los Angeles Dodgers C Kershaw - L[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_2" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ -145[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_2" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -350 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_2" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u6½ -115[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>San Diego Padres at San Francisco Giants</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]907 San Diego Padres D Pomeranz - L[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -150[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +167 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o6½ -105[/TD]
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[TD]10:15PM[/TD]
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[TD]908 San Francisco Giants J Cueto - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +130[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -177 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_3" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u6½ -115[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Los Angeles Angels at Texas Rangers</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]909 Los Angeles Angels N Tropeano - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -185[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +113 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o9½ -115[/TD]
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[TD]8:05PM[/TD]
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[TD]910 Texas Rangers D Holland - L[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +160[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -123 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_4" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u9½ -105[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Cleveland Indians at Chicago White Sox - Game 2</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]911 Cleveland Indians C Anderson - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_5" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -190[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_5" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +104 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_5" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o9 -125[/TD]
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[TD]8:10PM[/TD]
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[TD]912 Chicago White Sox E Johnson - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_5" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +165[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_5" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -114 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_5" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u9 +105[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Kansas City Royals at Minnesota Twins</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]913 Kansas City Royals I Kennedy - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +125[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -132 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o8½ -105[/TD]
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[TD]8:10PM[/TD]
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[TD]914 Minnesota Twins R Nolasco - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -145[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +122 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_6" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u8½ -115[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Oakland Athletics at Seattle Mariners</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]915 Oakland Athletics R Hill - L[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -200[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +116 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o7 -110[/TD]
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[TD]10:10PM[/TD]
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[TD]916 Seattle Mariners T Walker - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +170[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -126 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_7" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u7 -110[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Philadelphia Phillies at Detroit Tigers</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]917 Philadelphia Phillies V Velasquez - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_8" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +140[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_8" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -114 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_8" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o8½ -115[/TD]
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[TD]7:10PM[/TD]
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[TD]918 Detroit Tigers M Pelfrey - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_8" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -160[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_8" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +104 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_8" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u8½ -105[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Tampa Bay Rays at Miami Marlins</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]919 Tampa Bay Rays M Moore - L[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_9" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -200[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_9" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +112 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_9" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o7½ -110[/TD]
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[TD]7:10PM[/TD]
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[TD]920 Miami Marlins W Chen - L[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_9" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +170[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_9" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -122 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_9" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u7½ -110[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 8"]<small>Cleveland Indians at Chicago White Sox - Game 1</small>[/TD]
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[TD]Mon 5/23[/TD]
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[TD]921 Cleveland Indians M Clevinger - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S1_10" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +1½ -190[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M1_10" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +101 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L1_10" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> o9 -115[/TD]
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[TD]5:10PM[/TD]
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[TD]922 Chicago White Sox M Latos - R[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="S2_10" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1½ +165[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="M2_10" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -111 Listed[/TD]
[TD]<input id="editx" name="L2_10" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> u9 -105[/TD]
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[scarf31]

I cannot say that I can ever remember a -350 favorite in a major league baseball game. Especially a -350 favorite who played a 17-inning game the day before. I may bet the Reds just out of principle...the Dodgers just literally played 2 entire games on Sunday...I don't care how bad a team is and who the pitcher being faced is...-350 in this sport is insanity.

 

[nbafan88]

There have been favorites that high.


Liking pitt TT over in the early game

 

[tuck321]

Colon has pitched on
5 days and got pounded by Washington
Before 4 days 5 runs
before 4 days 3 run at Padres
He is playing on 4 days rest away at Washington at night
Gio on 4 2.41 ERA about 37 innings
Colon 5.60 on 17.2
So far night and day are equal but his ERA away is 4.81
History is not bad

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[TD="width: 8%"]PITCHED FOR[/TD]
[TD="width: 7%"]RUNS[/TD]
[TD="width: 8%"]OPP[/TD]
[TD="width: 7%"]RUNS[/TD]
[TD="width: 4%"]IP[/TD]
[TD="width: 4%"]ER[/TD]
[TD="width: 4%"]BB[/TD]
[TD="width: 3%"]K'S[/TD]
[TD="width: 8%"]TEAM RESULT[/TD]
[TD="width: 8%"]O/U[/TD]
[TD="width: 8%"]O/U RESULT[/TD]
[TD="width: 8%"]MONEY LINE[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%"]OPP PITCHER[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]04/06/2015[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]NYM[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 7%"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]@WSH[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 7%"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 4%"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 4%"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 4%"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 3%"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]U[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]-165[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 15%"]M Scherzer[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]09/23/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]NYM[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 7%"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]@WSH[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 7%"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 4%"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 4%"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 4%"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 3%"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]U[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]-171[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 15%"]T Roark[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]05/17/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]NYM[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 7%"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]@WSH[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 7%"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 4%"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 4%"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 4%"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 3%"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]P[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 8%"]-160[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 15%"]G Gonzalez[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]06/22/2002[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]CLE[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 7%"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]@MON[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 7%"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 4%"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 4%"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 4%"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 3%"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]O[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 8%"]120[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 15%"]Z Day[/TD]

</tbody>

But at 43 I start out thinking he is in trouble

 

[tuck321]

There have been favorites that high.


Liking pitt TT over in the early game

Interesting. My spread sheet is not showing Pitt playing. Is this a double header?

 

[nbafan88]

Interesting. My spread sheet is not showing Pitt playing. Is this a double header?

Make up game from Sunday

 

[mrpickem]

I dont recollect a favorite this high this early in the season. I remember Kersh, Maddux & Pedro with 400 lines but almost always late in the season.

[TABLE="class: Lhead2, width: 400"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TH="class: Ctitle, colspan: 3"] 905 Cincinnati @ 906 LA Dodgers [/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: Ctitle, colspan: 3"] 05/23/16 10:10pm [/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: Chead1, width: 166"] Time [/TH]
[TH="class: Chead1, width: 103"] Cincinnati [/TH]
[TH="class: Chead1, width: 109"] LA Dodgers [/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 09:17:54am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +328 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -388 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 09:09:34am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +327 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -387 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 09:09:31am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +323 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -383 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 09:09:01am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +327 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -387 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 09:03:11am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +323 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -383 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 08:26:38am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +319 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -379 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 08:25:39am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +326 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -386 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 08:25:24am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +321 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -381 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 08:25:23am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +317 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -377 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 08:12:17am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +314 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -364 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 08:02:30am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +310 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -360 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 07:31:51am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +314 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -364 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 06:53:32am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +318 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -368 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 04:02:28am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +305 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -355 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/22/16 04:31:11pm [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +303 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -353 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/22/16 04:25:41pm [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +298 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -348 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/22/16 02:22:38pm [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] +302 [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] -352 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: Chead1"] [/TH]
[TH="class: Chead1, colspan: 2"] Totals [/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 09:06:30am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over -105 Under -105 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 09:05:20am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over -110 Under +100 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 08:55:50am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over -105 Under -105 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 08:38:52am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over -110 Under +100 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 04:04:23am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over -105 Under -105 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/23/16 01:43:52am [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over +100 Under -110 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/22/16 11:27:22pm [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over -105 Under -105 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/22/16 04:40:00pm [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over +100 Under -110 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 05/22/16 02:22:38pm [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 2"] 6½ Over -105 Under -105 [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

 

[BringInTheLefty]

What are your feelings on these series???

I liked the Nats but -$175 seems tough, Royals look solid -$140 Cards +$125 just not enough White Sox a tad high also

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[TH="class: team, bgcolor: #A3A3A3"]Team[/TH]
[TH="class: points, bgcolor: #A3A3A3, align: center"]Run Line[/TH]
[TH="class: money, bgcolor: #A3A3A3, align: center"]Moneyline[/TH]
[TH="class: total, bgcolor: #A3A3A3, align: center"]Total[/TH]
[TH="class: team-total, bgcolor: #A3A3A3, align: center"]Team Total[/TH]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
7:05p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
<tbody style="border: 0px none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">[TR="class: visitor"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]851[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]New York Mets
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+145[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]852[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Washington Nationals
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-175[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
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8:15p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
<tbody style="border: 0px none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">[TR="class: visitor"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]853[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Chicago Cubs
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-155[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]854[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]St Louis Cardinals
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+125[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]




10:10p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
<tbody style="border: 0px none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">[TR="class: visitor"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]855[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Cincinnati Reds
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+300[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]856[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Los Angeles Dodgers
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-400[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]




10:15p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
<tbody style="border: 0px none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">[TR="class: visitor"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]857[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]San Diego Padres
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+200[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]858[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]San Francisco Giants
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-260[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]




8:05p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
<tbody style="border: 0px none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">[TR="class: visitor"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]859[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Los Angeles Angels
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+110[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]860[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Texas Rangers
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-140[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
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5:10p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
<tbody style="border: 0px none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">[TR="class: visitor"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]861[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Cleveland Indians
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+135[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]862[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Chicago White Sox
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-165[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
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8:10p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
<tbody style="border: 0px none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">[TR="class: visitor"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]863[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Kansas City Royals
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-140[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]864[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Minnesota Twins
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+110[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
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10:10p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
<tbody style="border: 0px none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">[TR="class: visitor"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]865[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Oakland Athletics
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+150[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]866[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Seattle Mariners
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-180[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
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7:10p
[TABLE="class: game-tbl, width: 523"]
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[TD="class: rot, align: center"]867[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]+125[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: home"]
[TD="class: rot, align: center"]868[/TD]
[TD="class: team"]Detroit Tigers
[/TD]
[TD="class: points, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: money, align: right"]-155[/TD]
[TD="class: total, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: team-total, align: right"] [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

 

[kdog]

What are your feelings on these series???

I liked the Nats but -$175 seems tough, Royals look solid -$140 Cards +$125 just not enough White Sox a tad high also

Nats do look high. They have a decided edge tomorrow with the way Harvey has been but the Mets have the edge in game three with Matz/Roark. Personally I can't trust Gonzalez over Colon at that price and if you do like Gio you can just bet him today at almost 30c cheaper.

Other than Sale tomorrow it's the White Sox flotsam vs the Indians jetsam. Pass.

Pass on KC laying a price on the road too with Kennedy/Volquez/Gee, three mediocre NL refugees vs Nolasco/Santana/Duffey. You should be able to buy all three in that series at considerably less than -140 if you like KC.

Philly at +125 has some value imo with Velasquez favored over Pelfry today, Hellickson vs a not what he once was Verlander tomorrow and Nola/Annabelle Sanchez and his 5.48 FIP on Wednesday.

 

[Dollaz]

The Nats will be favored in game 3 with Roark at home, but it probably won't be by much. They are also the best hitting team in the NL vs. lefties. Why would you not trust Gio over Colon? I think it is lined fair.

I don't play a lot of series, but the Rangers look a hair cheap and Seattle seems decent value.

 

[tuck321]

Anyone know Lyles days rest?

 

[tuck321]

Regarding Washington vs Miami---I want Washington first 5 but no bet till umps. This game may be very hard fought

 

[BringInTheLefty]

Thanks

Nats do look high. They have a decided edge tomorrow with the way Harvey has been but the Mets have the edge in game three with Matz/Roark. Personally I can't trust Gonzalez over Colon at that price and if you do like Gio you can just bet him today at almost 30c cheaper.

Other than Sale tomorrow it's the White Sox flotsam vs the Indians jetsam. Pass.

Pass on KC laying a price on the road too with Kennedy/Volquez/Gee, three mediocre NL refugees vs Nolasco/Santana/Duffey. You should be able to buy all three in that series at considerably less than -140 if you like KC.

Philly at +125 has some value imo with Velasquez favored over Pelfry today, Hellickson vs a not what he once was Verlander tomorrow and Nola/Annabelle Sanchez and his 5.48 FIP on Wednesday.

 

[BringInTheLefty]

Thanks

The Nats will be favored in game 3 with Roark at home, but it probably won't be by much. They are also the best hitting team in the NL vs. lefties. Why would you not trust Gio over Colon? I think it is lined fair.

I don't play a lot of series, but the Rangers look a hair cheap and Seattle seems decent value.

 

[gsro]

Regarding Washington vs Miami---I want Washington first 5 but no bet till umps. This game may be very hard fought

Think you're mixing up teams

 

[D-Woww]

+300 or higher on the reds, all day every day. classic example of betting a number not the team, but whatever, just too high.

pads/giants under 6.5 looks good

Oakland/Seattle under 7 too

rockies/pirates over looks great but in a game that was supposed to be yesterday, players may be in the "get in and get out" mindset...both pitchers stink though

 

[nbafan88]

You can bet the value with the Reds if you wish but it's foolish. The line is right. By far the best pitcher in the game right now vs a scrub with the shittiest BP in the league.

 

[scarf31]

You can bet the value with the Reds if you wish but it's foolish.

I disagree 100% with you on this one, NBAfan. It is baseball...it's not the Warriors playing the Lakers where the ML is -1800 and it is a guaranteed victory. The worst teams win 37% of their games in 100-loss seasons...if I can get +300, I'm playing it...I'm not mortgaging the rent on it, but I will hit it for a small play.

 

[nbafan88]

You don't have to bet on the Dodgers. But betting on the Reds is just foolish. I'm not a value bettor in any sport though. Everything being equal if they played this game 100 times the Reds would not win 30 times IMO.

 

[scarf31]

You don't have to bet on the Dodgers. But betting on the Reds is just foolish. I'm not a value bettor in any sport though. Everything being equal if they played this game 100 times the Reds would not win 30 times IMO.

We can agree to disagree on this one. The Dodgers have the best pitcher in the world right now, nobody will argue. But Cincy is by no chance the worst team in the sport and LAD just played a 17-inning game to where their entire bullpen was used. There are going to be plenty of people betting Kersh tonight as I saw the number at my book open at -350 and just hit -395...but I will gladly disagree in THIS SPOT, Cincy wins more than 30 times out of a 100.

But these disagreements, viewpoints are what the discussion threads interesting. Everyone has a different take. Capping this sport is unique in that everyone (in my opinion) does it pretty differently to their own style.

 

[KJ]

There's a legitimate chance the Dodgers might not score in at least 25 of those hypothetical games

 

[hugh613]

+300 or higher on the reds, all day every day. classic example of betting a number not the team, but whatever, just too high.

Where's the 'value' if you don't give them a legitimate shot at winning though? Betting a number as opposed to betting reality is a pretty slippery slope...

 

[Lareux]

You don't have to bet on the Dodgers. But betting on the Reds is just foolish. I'm not a value bettor in any sport though. Everything being equal if they played this game 100 times the Reds would not win 30 times IMO.

It may be foolish, but I also agree with Scarf (and others).

If if you're getting +300 on the Reds, they'd only need to win 25 out of 100 to break even, but you may be right that they may not even do that against Kershaw in 100 games. It's certainly possible though with bullpens and the Dodgers offense as other factors...

 

[Lareux]

Where's the 'value' if you don't give them a legitimate shot at winning though? Betting a number as opposed to betting reality is a pretty slippery slope...

Good point, and it can be a slippery slope...but this scenario doesn't come around that often, so it may be worth a shot for some.

 

[tuck321]

Think you're mixing up teams

Sure was

 

[tuck321]

We can agree to disagree on this one. The Dodgers have the best pitcher in the world right now, nobody will argue. But Cincy is by no chance the worst team in the sport and LAD just played a 17-inning game to where their entire bullpen was used. There are going to be plenty of people betting Kersh tonight as I saw the number at my book open at -350 and just hit -395...but I will gladly disagree in THIS SPOT, Cincy wins more than 30 times out of a 100.

But these disagreements, viewpoints are what the discussion threads interesting. Everyone has a different take. Capping this sport is unique in that everyone (in my opinion) does it pretty differently to their own style.

I think the best pitcher is Sale

 

[scarf31]

I think the best pitcher is Sale

I can't fight you there, Tuck. Some will argue Arrieta too...I was more trying to make a point regarding the stud pitcher/line escalation scenario in the LAD game...

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Like what I saw from Clevinger in his first outing. And Latos is giving up about 1 run per inning over his last 4 starts. I like CLEV in the 5pm game for sure.

 

[Dollaz]

I disagree 100% with you on this one, NBAfan. It is baseball...it's not the Warriors playing the Lakers where the ML is -1800 and it is a guaranteed victory. The worst teams win 37% of their games in 100-loss seasons...if I can get +300, I'm playing it...I'm not mortgaging the rent on it, but I will hit it for a small play.

But, the worse teams win 37% against the "average" major league team, they don't win 37% against the Dodgers with Kershaw on the hill. The Reds team play the Dodgers team with Kershaw may not win 40 games in a year. Personally, I have it lined at Dodgers -325.

 

[Dollaz]

Kershaw has 88 K to 4 walk ratio and has given up only 3 homers this year.

Sale has 62 k to 10 walks and has given up 5 homers this year.

You have to adjust for league and ballpark, but there is no one I would take over Kershaw. The difference is Kershaw walks less guys and gets more grounders.

 

[D-Woww]

between every single possibility:

Kershaw doesnt feel well and cant go
Kershaw goes and it rains in the 2nd inning and he doesnt come back out or he does comeback out rusty
kershaw dominates but loses 2-1
kershaw pitches well but pen blows it
kershaw has a night where he just doestn have his stuff and gives up 4

those things combine, in my opinion, equal a higher than 30% Chance of Cincy Winning. Dodgers arent even at .500 as a team yet no? Baseball is more than one pitcher

 

[Dollaz]

between every single possibility:

Kershaw doesnt feel well and cant go
Kershaw goes and it rains in the 2nd inning and he doesnt come back out or he does comeback out rusty
kershaw dominates but loses 2-1
kershaw pitches well but pen blows it
kershaw has a night where he just doestn have his stuff and gives up 4

those things combine, in my opinion, equal a higher than 30% Chance of Cincy Winning. Dodgers arent even at .500 as a team yet no? Baseball is more than one pitcher

There is still a team aspect of it for sure. The Dodgers position players have a 5.6 WAR on the season, the Reds are at 0.3. The Dodgers as a team are way better than the Reds before adjusting for the pitching advantage.

Just double checking my numbers, but Nate Silver gives the Reds a 24% chance of winning tonight. Fangraphs give the Reds a 23.6% chance. The "Kershaw not feeling well" is why the number gets up to 24%.

 

[tuck321]

Anyone else wondering about Philadelphia today?
Detroit has a poor pitcher. They have also won 6 of last 7.
Vincent in his last 3 road games has gone 18 innings and given up 11 runs
He has not been good on 5 and is much better in the day
Detroit vs righties averages about 4and 2/3rds runs
Philadelphia slightly less than 2.5 runs

 

[hugh613]

between every single possibility:

Kershaw doesnt feel well and cant go
Kershaw goes and it rains in the 2nd inning and he doesnt come back out or he does comeback out rusty
kershaw dominates but loses 2-1
kershaw pitches well but pen blows it
kershaw has a night where he just doestn have his stuff and gives up 4

those things combine, in my opinion, equal a higher than 30% Chance of Cincy Winning. Dodgers arent even at .500 as a team yet no? Baseball is more than one pitcher

Ok, well, not to quibble over semantics, but if Kershaw doesn't go, you won't be getting +300 anymore. And when's the last time you had a rain delay in LA?

Besides, you're laying all this on Kershaw's shoulders. You also need Brandon Finnegan to pitch at a high level (which there's very little to suggest he will), a team that's 3-14 on the road to come up big against one of the elite pitchers in the league, the lowest scoring team on the road this season to produce, etc...

I'd say the better 'value' (if there's any to be had), would be on the RL, as I think we've all been around long enough to see these slam dunk type games be anything but...

Either way, I won't be betting it, so good luck to all Reds backers tonight.

 

[D-Woww]

Anyone else wondering about Philadelphia today?
Detroit has a poor pitcher. They have also won 6 of last 7.
Vincent in his last 3 road games has gone 18 innings and given up 11 runs
He has not been good on 5 and is much better in the day

as you know because i never shut the fuck up about it, im a philly guy. this team has been super fun this year and real likable. but nobody in the city thinks they are going to sustain a good record. they just.cant.hit. so we are trying to enjoy this early season success while it lasts, but unless somethign drastically changes in their offense, they are going to go lose a lot more very soon. now may be the time to fade. if you told me before the year the phillies would be a road favorite at all this entire year i would had called BS

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

John Lackey has a 1.94 ERA in 162 1/3 career innings at Busch Stadium

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Took
Cubs -120 .5u

Caucasians gm1 -110 .5u

 

[Lareux]

There is still a team aspect of it for sure. The Dodgers position players have a 5.6 WAR on the season, the Reds are at 0.3. The Dodgers as a team are way better than the Reds before adjusting for the pitching advantage.

Just double checking my numbers, but Nate Silver gives the Reds a 24% chance of winning tonight. Fangraphs give the Reds a 23.6% chance. The "Kershaw not feeling well" is why the number gets up to 24%.

Well Nate Silver is correct based simply on the odds. At +300 they would need to win 1 out of 4 games to break even...which would equate to having a 25% chance to win. If the odds are now a little bit over +300 his numbers are dead nuts on. Did he give them that chance before the line was out, or was he just backtracking the line into the odds for CIN to win? Doesn't matter either way, just curious.

 

[nbafan88]

But, the worse teams win 37% against the "average" major league team, they don't win 37% against the Dodgers with Kershaw on the hill. The Reds team play the Dodgers team with Kershaw may not win 40 games in a year. Personally, I have it lined at Dodgers -325.

This. I was thinking this earlier but didn't know how to word it. This exactly.

 

[mrpickem]

Cubs 2-4 on current roady and only scored over 3 once in last 7
Waino a bit sub par for him but still quite profitable on year

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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Adam Wainwright - R[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Braves[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Williams Perez - R[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 12-7 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 11.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] O[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-11[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 6-1 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -160[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 9[/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1"] Apr 16, 2016[/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] Apr 22, 2016[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Fri[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] away[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Cardinals[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Adam Wainwright - R [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Padres[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Andrew Cashner - R [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1-4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] L[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -2.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] U[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 6-9[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -130[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 9[/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1"] Apr 27, 2016[/TD]

[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff"] May 02, 2016[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] box [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Mon[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Cardinals[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Adam Wainwright - R [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Phillies[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Jeremy Hellickson - R[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 10-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 5.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] O[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 14-8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 0-1[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7-3 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -168[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 9[/TD]

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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Thu[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] away[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Cardinals[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Adam Wainwright - R[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Angels[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Jered Weaver - R[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 12-10 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 2[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 13.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] O[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 18-15[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 1-2[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 5-2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] -133[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 8.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 9[/TD]

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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Cardinals[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] Adam Wainwright - R[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: ffffff"] 7.5[/TD]
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plus heyward out indefinitely
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Dexter Fowler [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 21 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .316 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] 3B [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Matt Carpenter [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 9 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 32 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .258 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] RF [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Kris Bryant [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 9 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 31 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .277 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] SS [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Aledmys Diaz [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 23 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .352 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] 2B [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Ben Zobrist [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 29 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .326 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] Matt Holliday [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 21 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .236 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] 1B [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Anthony Rizzo [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 11 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 34 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .240 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] RF [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Stephen Piscotty [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 25 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .335 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] LF [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Jorge Soler [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 3 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 7 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .198 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] LF [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Brandon Moss [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 22 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .218 [/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] C [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Miguel Montero [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 1 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 7 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .210 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] C [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Yadier Molina [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 1 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 18 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .307 [/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] 3B [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Javier Baez [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .237 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] CF [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Randal Grichuk [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 20 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .220 [/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] SS [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Addison Russell [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 28 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .234 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] 2B [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] Kolten Wong [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 1 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] 5 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"] .258 [/TD]
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[TD="class: Ldata"] P [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 4"] John Lackey (4-2) 3.31 [/TD]
[TD="class: Cdata"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata"] P [/TD]
[TD="class: Ldata, colspan: 4"] Adam Wainwright (4-3) 5.92 [/TD]
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[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

 

[tuck321]

Locked in Angels

 

[tuck321]

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Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 52333

[/TD]
[TD="width: 100%, bgcolor: #F6F6F6"] Cubs/Cards 5-23-16 just a spot play here, the Cubs off Sunday night, then travel to a big rival, who has been home & off a whipping the day before. Lackey is 2-13 against the money line in road games after giving up 1 or less earned runs last outing over the last 3 seasons, while Wainwright has gone 78-34 on the ML after a loss....

Cardinals -104
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[tuck321]

Added Detroit with favorable ref
Probably on Cards

 

[kdog]

The Nats will be favored in game 3 with Roark at home, but it probably won't be by much. They are also the best hitting team in the NL vs. lefties. Why would you not trust Gio over Colon? I think it is lined fair.

I don't play a lot of series, but the Rangers look a hair cheap and Seattle seems decent value.

I would say so for today too but the series was almost 30c higher at the time.

Seattle I liked but I'm not much for laying -180. Didn't look at the Rangers.

 

[mrpickem]

come on cards
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[BJPLAYER]

I cannot say that I can ever remember a -350 favorite in a major league baseball game. Especially a -350 favorite who played a 17-inning game the day before. I may bet the Reds just out of principle...the Dodgers just literally played 2 entire games on Sunday...I don't care how bad a team is and who the pitcher being faced is...-350 in this sport is insanity.

back in 98 when the yanks had that super team we saw a lot of wicked high games

 

[mrpickem]

Locked in Angels

Nice call on LAA

Hope you was on Cards as well! :cheers3:

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp4/2016/05/24/730852683/1464059680269/asset_1800K.mp4


http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp4/2016/05/24/730869383/1464060359772/asset_1800K.mp4

 

[KJ]

Fat Bart is a true treasure :rofl:

 

[nbafan88]

Rangers 12-2 with Ted Barrett since 2010. Doesn't mean that much though