Mizzou/Delaware St. Tickets Not Honored by Stations

[chips t]

I had Mizzou-44 for my biggest bet of the year. The coaches agreed to shorten the second half by ten minutes due to the score being way out of hand. My ticket was refunded by Station casinos as no action as house rules state a game must go 55 minutes to be official.

Despite what the house rules state, I feel I got screwed. Im assuming that rule is in place for a game being cancelled early by weather. Say a 31 pt fave lead by 27 after 3 and the game was called for lightning. Then the rule would seem fair in that instance. I got it a 44 and saw 54 closer to kick. So obviously public was on Mizzou and the casino wouldve lost money. If the money came on Delaware St I'm curious if they would've taken same course of action or just collected.

Should I appeal this to the Nevada Gaming Board or am I just screwed? Or maybe politely voice my displeasure Stations Management and try to maybe get get some food vouchers at least? Imagine my frusturation covering by 35 on game where I go big and can't collect.

Has anybody else ever had a bet voided by a self imposed mercy rule? Pretty unusual situation.

 

[RetroVK]

Happened at least once prior to this, this year.

Next year Delaware State will get a participation trophy and whatever you win, you will have to split with people who bet and lost. Just the way the Country is now. Mercy rule in college. Just run 8 dive plays and use the whole play clock. It isn't like it is hard to run the clock out. Heck, get the backups in and let them get some time on the field after practicing hard all spring summer and fall. Stupid.

The rule is clear, so you won't win with gaming. You basically just got screwed.

 

[chips t]

Everyone on the roster actually played but they were still going at their pace in the third. Plus the backup qb is an excellent run qb. And they only had a few healthy rbs so they couldnt get a fifth stringer in. But yeah, I dont understand why they couldnt run dives and tell ball carrier to hit the turf after three yards.

 

[twinkie13]

this happened last week

it really is a joke

 

[M.W.]

It's happens several times each year. It happened 100 years ago when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0. They shortened the 3Q and 4Q to 12 minutes each. Wonder if the books in Atlanta refused to pay Tech backers? Now that would be a bad beat!

Then again, maybe they didn't even cover.

 

[M.W.]

The problem is that it's always those betting on the favorite who get screwed (in non-weather situations). The game is never shortened if the dog is even semi-competitive.

 

[M.O.T]

One of the things I do after making my picks for the week is even out my account by taking it down to the nearest 5 or 10, and using the spare dollar or two in a big ML parlay with a couple dogs and a bunch of big favorites.

Even the Missouri ML was cancelled in the parlay. That's absurd.

 

[B.A.R.]

Why is this becoming such a thing this year?

It is shady as hell.

 

[cubsker]

A better route would be to try to get vegas to change the rules and then online books would follow suit

 

[chips t]

They really do need a rule change. Maybe say does not imply to "mercy rule situations." Or only applies to weather or fan intervention(if fans rushed field in protest or something). Cant think any other way a game would go less than 55 minutes. I had no idea this was even a sportsbook rule until yesterday. Or maybe don't apply to added games. This has me so aggravated I may just call it a season. I'm down a little but that win would've given me some ammo.

 

[ProV1Colt]

The rules are in place even before you placed the bet. Tread lightly. I suppose this is something that should get factored into when ones puts $ on such a high spread. It seems these are the only times it happens right?
I feel your pain though.

 

[ArizonaKid]

Sorry you had a great bet not cash due to a technicality but it's been a rule forever. I just don't see how you have any standing to appeal. The game earlier this year was Clemson over South Carolina State and I know I personally lost 2 of these last season in Georgia over UL-Monroe and Western Kentucky over FIU and that game was called with 5:03 left in the game smh.


Tough break but get'em next week :shake2:



Best story like this ever was from the 99 NLCS game 5 where Robin Ventura hit a grand slam in the 15th but was tackled after rounding 1st so technically all runners advanced one base meaning instead of a Mets 7-3 win the final was Mets 4-3 staying under the total of 7.5. I was at the Stardust (LOL old story) and people were throwing their betting slips away thinking it was a loser and I had noticed that Ventura never got past first so I just started picking up any ticket I could find and then quickly left....cashed in over $1,500 in free money LOLOL.

 

[KJ]

Can't believe we haven't gotten the magical power outage IN VEGAS with about 6 minutes to go in the UNLV/Wisconsin game a bunch of years ago. That one will always be a classic.

 

[Timh]

Sorry you had a great bet not cash due to a technicality but it's been a rule forever. I just don't see how you have any standing to appeal. The game earlier this year was Clemson over South Carolina State and I know I personally lost 2 of these last season in Georgia over UL-Monroe and Western Kentucky over FIU and that game was called with 5:03 left in the game smh.


Tough break but get'em next week :shake2:



Best story like this ever was from the 99 NLCS game 5 where Robin Ventura hit a grand slam in the 15th but was tackled after rounding 1st so technically all runners advanced one base meaning instead of a Mets 7-3 win the final was Mets 4-3 staying under the total of 7.5. I was at the Stardust (LOL old story) and people were throwing their betting slips away thinking it was a loser and I had noticed that Ventura never got past first so I just started picking up any ticket I could find and then quickly left....cashed in over $1,500 in free money LOLOL.

Wow i forgot all about that one, what a great story....talk about looking for an edge LOL...

 

[CollegeKingRex]

A better route would be to try to get vegas to change the rules and then online books would follow suit

No, it would be better for us to change the rules - which could happen at some point in the not-too-distant future - and then let THEM follow suit.

There hasn't been a leader out there since the 1980s.

 

[CollegeKingRex]

Can't believe we haven't gotten the magical power outage IN VEGAS with about 6 minutes to go in the UNLV/Wisconsin game a bunch of years ago. That one will always be a classic.

You can be sure Walters was behind that one. lmao.

 

[sleepy]

You know what bugs the living shit out of me is these bookies from some of the bigger online shops and some of the vegas sports books that come on to these podcast and brag about how much money they won this week and last week. You would think if they are so flush with cash they could fix this wrong.

 

[KJ]

You can be sure Walters was behind that one. lmao.

:rofl: I believe it was a clear night and in the 70s

 

[lindetrain]

Pretty sure it states "game must go 55 minutes for action," not "game must go 55 minutes for action unless your team is crushing, in which case we'll honor your bet."

If you were on the other side, you'd gladly take your refund and not say a peep.

 

[lindetrain]

Also, this growing trend of shortening FBS vs. FCS games should probably be noted by everyone as a risk/downside to wagering on these games in the future.

 

[CrimsonK]

In these instances, I wonder if the universities pro-rate the fee paid to the cupcake too?

 

[sleepy]

In these instances, I wonder if the universities pro-rate the fee paid to the cupcake too?

I hope Delaware St. gets stiffed

fuk them and their shitty team.

 

[cubsker]

fans should ask for partial refunds.

 

[Alan Tongue]

No, it would be better for us to change the rules - which could happen at some point in the not-too-distant future - and then let THEM follow suit.

There hasn't been a leader out there since the 1980s.

it took years for the industry to settle on a rule for tennis - first ball, first set, 2 sets, completed match. I'd be happy to have a book only rule and not an industry one, just to piss off the arbers

 

[RetroVK]

Casinos and their sportsbooks are quite adept at attempted theft. This is not an example but make no mistake they will cheat you if they want to. In Nevada your only recourse is to call gaming. It works. They have been fair in the instances I have had to call them. But the problem is that you never receive anything punitive. So a Casino basically gets me for interest free loans and a freeroll at stealing my money (If I don't want to fight it or I get a bad result from a bad gaming officer). When you win ... you get your money back that the casino has had for months.

Don't trust a casino for anything. Ever.

 

[twinkie13]

Great stories in here...

 

[cubsker]

Casinos and their sportsbooks are quite adept at attempted theft. This is not an example but make no mistake they will cheat you if they want to. In Nevada your only recourse is to call gaming. It works. They have been fair in the instances I have had to call them. But the problem is that you never receive anything punitive. So a Casino basically gets me for interest free loans and a freeroll at stealing my money (If I don't want to fight it or I get a bad result from a bad gaming officer). When you win ... you get your money back that the casino has had for months.

Don't trust a casino for anything. Ever.

Thats why i dont believe it is immoral to cheat a casino.

 

[sleepy]

I never feel bad about betting their mistake lines. Its my only recourse when they flat out steal from me on bullshit like this and other crap like delays on bet conformations and micro limits.

 

[Alan Tongue]

They are the rules you agreed to when you placed your bet.

 

[lindetrain]

I never feel bad about betting their mistake lines. Its my only recourse when they flat out steal from me on bullshit like this and other crap like delays on bet conformations and micro limits.

You think it's okay to bet a mistake line and potentially put someone's job at risk because house rules that are ALREADY IN PLACE are bullshit when they don't work in your best interest? LOLOLOL

Sportsbooks and casinos can certainly do some scumbag things, but it pales in comparison to most of the shit bettors try to pull every day.

 

[cubsker]

I think it's fine to bet a mistake line. I also think it's fine for the casino to not welcome your business any more if you do.

In other news, my local's online site says that mercy rule games will now have action regardless of if they played 55 starting this week. Guessing they have had some pissed off people the last few weeks.

 

[RetroVK]

I think it's fine to bet a mistake line. I also think it's fine for the casino to not welcome your business any more if you do.

In other news, my local's online site says that mercy rule games will now have action regardless of if they played 55 starting this week. Guessing they have had some pissed off people the last few weeks.

Another win for the semi-free market

 

[D-Woww]

You think it's okay to bet a mistake line and potentially put someone's job at risk because house rules that are ALREADY IN PLACE are bullshit when they don't work in your best interest? LOLOLOL

Sportsbooks and casinos can certainly do some scumbag things, but it pales in comparison to most of the shit bettors try to pull every day.

if a book hangs a line there is nothing immoral about betting that line. Were not boy scouts. Books are our enemy. No different than if a coach gets a read on the other teams signs. U really think they should do the "moral" thing and not look? No you take advantage until they realize and adjust. But LOL at bettors being expected to have some sort of scouts honor.

 

[D-Woww]

If thats not what u were saying & ur point was just that one has nothing to do with the other then sure, i gotcha.

 

[lindetrain]

if a book hangs a line there is nothing immoral about betting that line. Were not boy scouts. Books are our enemy. No different than if a coach gets a read on the other teams signs. U really think they should do the "moral" thing and not look? No you take advantage until they realize and adjust. But LOL at bettors being expected to have some sort of scouts honor.

Why does everyone feel the need to have this "books are our enemy" mindset like we're at war? My job may ultimately be to take your money, yes, but I don't go into work every day deliberately looking to fuck you over. It's one thing to bet a number a book is sleeping on/slow to move, it's another to bet one that's a CLEAR mistake and anyone with basic sports knowledge can see is wrong.

The best approach IMO is to notify the book of the issue and gain good favor with them for any future issues down the road. You'd be amazed how much it's benefitted customers later on when they've done things like that. Of course I'm biased, but I don't see the long-term benefit of playing a mistake line and falling in bad favor with a book.

 

[Alan Tongue]

if a book hangs a line there is nothing immoral about betting that line. Were not boy scouts. Books are our enemy. No different than if a coach gets a read on the other teams signs. U really think they should do the "moral" thing and not look? No you take advantage until they realize and adjust. But LOL at bettors being expected to have some sort of scouts honor.

books aren't the enemy, other gamblers are

 

[RetroVK]

Other gamblers don't cut you off, remove your from any promotions the casino offers, lower the limits you are allowed to play at, try to rob you of your points earned while you were winning, or in the case of casinos even try to not pay you when you hit a jackpot.

The casinos have to be treated as both the enemy and an ally (without them none of this is possible after all). I tend to try to treat casinos fairly ... back in the day when there were overpayers, I didn't exploit it. When there was the glitch, I didn't exploit it. But after the casinos have treated me like shit time and time again ... at what point do I consider the book the enemy? When I have to pull my card out of the machine when drawing for a big jackpot or because I have been dealt a big hand already because if I don't do that enough, they will see I am winning and kick me out or take me off the mailing list or blackball me from their promotions, how am i supposed to not look at the casino as an enemy of a sort? When you sportsbooks kick out winners .... (no fear of me winning a bunch at sports so no worries for me personally there going forward) do you not think that is an antagonist maneuver?

Not saying people should cheat casinos (because cheating is bad and you only live once and should try to live with a certain level of morals and dignity) but we should treat casinos like they treat people who beat them.

Also, quit offering casino paycheck cashing promotions to get the old people to come in and cash their social security check for your bingo rip-offs.

 

[lindetrain]

FWIW I'm not familiar whatsoever with some of the things casinos do to screw their customers as we simply rent the space to operate a book there, so I can't really dispute any of that.

 

[Rich_D]

That line was -53 or so open / early in the week ..Then on SAT morning it dropped to -43 (guess you bought in then) and then it went back up to -54 ish. Crazy ass line movement in a short period of time.Never seen such a movement before.