Misleading scores and finals

[RonG]

Who wants to share?

 

[RetroVK]

FBS v FBS there were shockingly few.

I guess the one that stands out to me ... because I think the team is overrated ... is the 48 pts scored by Washington

Kickoff Return TD
Punt Return TD
Interception Return to the 4 yard line, TD next play
Rutgers fumble in own end of the field. 7 yard drive FG

Just 380 yards of offense or so and 17 first downs. Obviously they lose the possession stats from a kickoff return td and lose the possession stats from the punt return td so they would have had more minus those ... AND they were up so much so early who knows how hard they were trying on offense ... but I would not be quick to lay huge numbers with their offense until you see some more that is for sure.

 

[jimmymo]

Have to think UW will be laying mid to upper 30s next week against Idaho...and I think they cover, mostly because they have so many playmakers and the Death Row D... UW put up 380 and gave up 304, and Rutgers ran about 30 more plays

 

[ebemiss]

Washington game was a bit misleading. Here's what comes up when I run the numbers through my box score analyzer:

Here's what I have for UW vs Idaho next week:

Idaho

13.82

Washington

46.17

59.99

32.34

-32.34

09/10/2016

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[TD]Game should've been..[/TD]
[TD]Win Margin[/TD]
[TD]Yds/TO spread conv.[/TD]
[TD]Game tot[/TD]
[TD]Closing Line[/TD]
[TD]YPP[/TD]
[TD]OFF Plays[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Rutgers[/TD]
[TD]Lost ATS[/TD]
[TD]Better than predicted[/TD]
[TD]Lower Scoring[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]20.70[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]25.00[/TD]
[TD]3.68[/TD]
[TD]87[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Washington[/TD]
[TD]Won ATS[/TD]
[TD]Worse than predicted[/TD]
[TD]Lower Scoring[/TD]
[TD]-35[/TD]
[TD]-20.70[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]-25.00[/TD]
[TD]6.60[/TD]
[TD]58[/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]Yppt. Total[/TD]
[TD]W/L Projection[/TD]
[TD]Margin[/TD]
[TD]Actual Yds[/TD]
[TD]Score should've been..[/TD]
[TD]TO[/TD]
[TD]Adjusted TO[/TD]
[TD]1st Downs[/TD]
[TD]Next Week[/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD]Rutgers[/TD]
[TD]50.74[/TD]
[TD]Should have lost by[/TD]
[TD]20.70[/TD]
[TD]320[/TD]
[TD]15.02[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0.92[/TD]
[TD]21.00[/TD]
[TD]PLAY[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Washington[/TD]
[TD]50.74[/TD]
[TD]Should have won by[/TD]
[TD]20.70[/TD]
[TD]383[/TD]
[TD]35.72[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1.00[/TD]
[TD]17.00[/TD]
[TD]FADE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]Won Game[/TD]
[TD]Total Yards[/TD]
[TD]Plays Run[/TD]
[TD]YPP[/TD]
[TD]Adj TO[/TD]
[TD]1st Downs[/TD]
[TD]Rush Att[/TD]
[TD]3rd Down EFF[/TD]
[TD]Penalties[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD]Rutgers[/TD]
[TD]------[/TD]
[TD]------[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]------[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]5-for-20[/TD]
[TD]4-35[/TD]
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[TD]Washington[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]------[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]------[/TD]
[TD]------[/TD]
[TD]------[/TD]
[TD]3-for-12[/TD]
[TD]3-30[/TD]
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[Jimmydafreak]

Washington game was a bit misleading. Here's what comes up when I run the numbers through my box score analyzer:

Here's what I have for UW vs Idaho next week:

Idaho

13.82

Washington

46.17

59.99

32.34

-32.34

09/10/2016

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[TD]ATS
[/TD]
[TD]Act. yds vs act. spread
[/TD]
[TD]Game should've been..
[/TD]
[TD]Win Margin
[/TD]
[TD]Yds/TO spread conv.
[/TD]
[TD]Game tot
[/TD]
[TD]Closing Line
[/TD]
[TD]YPP
[/TD]
[TD]OFF Plays
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rutgers
[/TD]
[TD]Lost ATS
[/TD]
[TD]Better than predicted
[/TD]
[TD]Lower Scoring
[/TD]
[TD]35
[/TD]
[TD]20.70
[/TD]
[TD]61
[/TD]
[TD]25.00
[/TD]
[TD]3.68
[/TD]
[TD]87
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Washington
[/TD]
[TD]Won ATS
[/TD]
[TD]Worse than predicted
[/TD]
[TD]Lower Scoring
[/TD]
[TD]-35
[/TD]
[TD]-20.70
[/TD]
[TD]61
[/TD]
[TD]-25.00
[/TD]
[TD]6.60
[/TD]
[TD]58
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]Yppt. Total
[/TD]
[TD]W/L Projection
[/TD]
[TD]Margin
[/TD]
[TD]Actual Yds
[/TD]
[TD]Score should've been..
[/TD]
[TD]TO
[/TD]
[TD]Adjusted TO
[/TD]
[TD]1st Downs
[/TD]
[TD]Next Week
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD]Rutgers
[/TD]
[TD]50.74
[/TD]
[TD]Should have lost by
[/TD]
[TD]20.70
[/TD]
[TD]320
[/TD]
[TD]15.02
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]0.92
[/TD]
[TD]21.00
[/TD]
[TD]PLAY
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Washington
[/TD]
[TD]50.74
[/TD]
[TD]Should have won by
[/TD]
[TD]20.70
[/TD]
[TD]383
[/TD]
[TD]35.72
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1.00
[/TD]
[TD]17.00
[/TD]
[TD]FADE
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]Won Game
[/TD]
[TD]Total Yards
[/TD]
[TD]Plays Run
[/TD]
[TD]YPP
[/TD]
[TD]Adj TO
[/TD]
[TD]1st Downs
[/TD]
[TD]Rush Att
[/TD]
[TD]3rd Down EFF
[/TD]
[TD]Penalties
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rutgers
[/TD]
[TD]------
[/TD]
[TD]------
[/TD]
[TD]YES
[/TD]
[TD]------
[/TD]
[TD]YES
[/TD]
[TD]YES
[/TD]
[TD]YES
[/TD]
[TD]5-for-20
[/TD]
[TD]4-35
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Washington
[/TD]
[TD]YES
[/TD]
[TD]YES
[/TD]
[TD]------
[/TD]
[TD]YES
[/TD]
[TD]------
[/TD]
[TD]------
[/TD]
[TD]------
[/TD]
[TD]3-for-12
[/TD]
[TD]3-30
[/TD]
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What the hell is a boxscore analyzer? I'm interested.

 

[wiseplayer]

Stay away from gutless Kentucky

 

[M.W.]

Actually, this week is a great time to play UK.

 

[ebemiss]

What the hell is a boxscore analyzer? I'm interested.

Something I put together a few years back and have continued to tweak. It takes the numbers from the box score and generates a "projected" result based on yards/yards per play, turnovers etc. Just gives me a snapshot into games I didn't get a chance to follow live. I use it as a guide. I use it along with my pre-game number to help analyze the upcoming card.

 

[ebemiss]

Here's a full list all of last week's games that I ran through the box score component. Thought I'd share the 1st week. I tried pasting them in the thread but there was too many. Link was easier viewing.

http://www.gamedaypredictor.com//2016cfb1

 

[RetroVK]

Ebe do you do it regulation only on the overtime games? Something to consider if not. Nice work and thanks for sharing

 

[ebemiss]

Ebe do you do it regulation only on the overtime games? Something to consider if not. Nice work and thanks for sharing

I'm kind of at the mercy of the box score right now. I'm using end of game stats, which include overtime. For example I'll use this box score for Ohio/Texas St.

http://sportsoptions.sportsdirectin...ta/NCAAF/results/2016-2017/boxscore52152.html

I agree that it would be nice to have just regulation numbers. The whole process needs to be automated to help reduce the amount of time it takes me to run these and I'll definitely add your suggestion to the list.