Mise well get it going early...2015 Detroit Tigers Thread...

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DETROIT -- It happened again.
Detroit Tigers designated hitter Victor Martinez suffered another major offseason injury after tearing his medial meniscus in his left knee late last week, the team announced Thursday.
Martinez is scheduled to undergo surgery Tuesday with noted orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews in Pensacola, Fla. The Tigers did not offer an immediate timetable for Martinez's return and will provide an update following the operation.
Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski confirmed Martinez injured his knee during an offseason workout in Florida late last week and underwent an MRI and an examination at the Watson Clinic on Wednesday.
Dombrowski said he was first alerted Tuesday afternoon.
"When you first hear it's his knee, you immediately wonder if it's anything more of consequence," Dombrowski told MLive.com. "But we were assured after the test that all of that was fine. It appears to be just cartilage tear."
It remains unclear how long the injury is expected to keep Martinez sidelined, but the 36-year-old is expected to miss all of spring training. Players have oftentimes returned from meniscus surgery in 6-8 weeks, but it will likely be difficult for Martinez, who turned 36 in December, to be ready for opening day on April 6.
Pitchers and catchers will report later to Lakeland, Fla. later this month and the team's first full-squad workout is scheduled for Feb. 24.
"It was pretty devastating," said Dombrowski, who recalled his initial reaction during the phone call Tuesday relaying the news. "It was just as you would expect. You never want to hear any of your players getting hurt, especially Victor."
Martinez hit .335 with 103 RBIs last season and finished second in the AL MVP race, helping Detroit win its fourth straight division title. He signed a $48 million, four-year contract in mid-November and was expected to serve as the club's designated hitter and cleanup hitter behind first baseman Miguel Cabrera in 2015.
It marks the second time in four years that Martinez has suffered a major knee injury while participating in offseason workouts. He was forced to miss the entire 2012 season after undergoing microfracture surgery to repair the medial and lateral meniscus in his left knee. With Martinez sidelined, the Tigers -- in turn -- signed first baseman Prince Fielder to a lucrative nine-year, $214 million contract.
Dombrowski said that Martinez's injury likely won't change the Tigers' offseason plans, though their overall outlook could change down the road when additional information is made available after Martinez's surgery next week.
"I'm really not in a position to speculate about his return," Dombrowski said. "We have to wait until after the surgery to determine what needs need to be filled."
 
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Free-agent outfielder Dayan Viciedo hit .231 with 21 homers and 58 RBIs in 145 games with the White Sox last season. (AP File Photo)

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on February 05, 2015 at 5:55 PM, updated February 05, 2015 at 6:51 PM

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DETROIT -- First, the good news: The major knee injury Victor Martinez suffered last week doesn't seem to be quite as severe as the one he suffered in 2012.
Now, the bad: There's no guarantee he'll be the same player once he returns.
Martinez's early diagnosis -- following an examination he underwent Wednesday -- suggests he may only be sidelined for 6-8 weeks. If all goes right, it's entirely possible he could be ready to rejoin the Detroit Tigers before opening day on April 6.
Then again, there's a chance Martinez might need to sit out a significant amount of time after that.
At this point, no one knows. Not Martinez. Not general manager Dave Dombrowski. Not noted orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews, who won't know the extent of the injury and the direction of his surgery until Martinez is on the operating table.
If Andrews can stick the meniscus back together, it's possible Martinez may require only 4-6 weeks of rehabilitation. But if the cartilage can't be repaired, he could be out for 3-4 months. Which is precisely why Dombrowski won't speculate.
"I'm really not in a position to speculate about his return," he said Thursday. "We have to wait until after the surgery to determine what needs need to be filled."
Dombrowski did, however, acknowledge Martinez's injury will not change the team's outlook this offseason. At this point, it appears the Tigers will enter spring training with the team they currently have, albeit banged-up and grizzled in some cases.
But the Tigers need to be prepared. Yes, there's a chance Martinez will be ready to start the season. But there's also a chance he'll be out until the All-Star break. That's not to say the Tigers need to make a move similar to the one they made in 2012 when they signed Prince Fielder to a nine-year, $214 million deal.
That's not exactly necessary. Nor is it realistic. But there are several in-house candidates and a couple free-agent candidates that could be considered if Martinez is forced to miss the start of the season.
Here's a list of 10 potential replacements:
In-house candidates
Steven Moya: Prior to Martinez's injury, Moya was considered a long shot to crack the Tigers' opening-day roster. He might have been able to force manager Brad Ausmus' hand with a jaw-dropping output this spring, but all signs pointed to Moya opening the season in Triple-A Toledo. Not anymore. With Martinez sidelined, Moya could be the big bat the Tigers need to help fill the left-handed void in the lineup. Ranked the No. 1 prospect in their organization, Moya set a single-season franchise record for extra-base hits (71), home runs (35) and RBIs (105) in Double-A Erie last year. The problem? Moya, 23, struck out a team-high 161 times and drew just 23 walks.
Tyler Collins: Collins, 24, was a strong bet to break camp with the team prior to Martinez's injury. Now, he seems like a lock in light of Thursday's news. The Tigers already have four outfield spots cemented with Yoenis Cespedes, J.D. Martinez, Anthony Gose and Rajai Davis. But it's possible they could carry six (maybe seven) outfielders when the season opens. Several Tigers executives believe Collins, who made the club's opening-day roster last season, is ready to make a permanent jump to the majors. This spring could be his chance to prove it. He has speed. He has a strong arm in the outfield. And he has pop in his left-handed bat.
Andrew Romine/Hernan Perez: A scenario in which Romine and Perez both made the opening-day roster seemed highly unlikely last week. Not anymore. Both players are expected to receive work in the outfield this spring, and both players are out of options. Instead of choosing one or the other, the Tigers may decide to stick with both. Given Martinez's injury, it's possible Romine and Perez could both be used in a super-utility role, allowing other key Tigers players, like outfielder J.D. Martinez and third baseman Nick Castellanos, to fill the designated-hitting role. Romine could also get a shot to play some first base this spring.
Jordan Lennerton: Martinez was supposed to be Detroit's solution at first base if Miguel Cabrera needed a day or two off as he recovers from offseason surgery to repair a stress fracture in his foot. Lennerton, 28, may now be their Plan B. Lennerton, who signed a minor-league deal last month, struggled mightily at the plate last season in Triple-A Toledo, but he has an A-plus glove at first base and provides a much-needed left-handed bat in the lineup. The Tigers don't have much depth in their system at first base, but Lennerton -- a non-roster invitee this spring -- may be strongly considered this spring if they have any concerns about Cabrera.
Bryan Holaday: Could the Tigers carry three catchers on their major-league roster? It seems highly unlikely, but much depends on the health of Cabrera. If Cabrera is unable to play first base on a regular basis, the Tigers could consider using Alex Avila as a potential replacement. Heck, it was discussed before Martinez's injury. Such a scenario seems highly unlikely, but if the Tigers are indeed concerned about Cabrera playing first base, the Tigers may consider breaking camp with both Holaday and rookie catcher James McCann.
Other internal candidates: 1B Aaron Westlake, 3B Mike Hessman
Free-agent/trade candidates:
Dayan Viciedo: If the Tigers prefer to give Moya everyday at-bats at Triple-A Toledo, they could decide to turn their attention to Viciedo, who was released by the Chicago White Sox earlier this week. Viciedo could be a low-risk addition for the Tigers and could serve as an experienced bench player. At 25 years old, Viciedo has 66 career home runs and has two more years of commitment-free control through arbitration. He's a relatively cheap option for the Tigers, and probably their best external candidate if they plan on making a move before spring training.
Chris Colabello: Colabello can play first base. He can play in the outfield. And he was designated for assignment by the Blue Jays earlier this week. Toronto now has 10 days to trade, release or outright him to the minors. Will the Tigers take a peek? Colabello, who hit .229 for the Twins last year, certainly wouldn't be viewed as a replacement for Martinez, but he could give the Tigers much-needed depth as a bench player. He's not the ideal replacement, but the free-agent pool is thin. Really thin.

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BAR your a baseball guyi'm thinking about betting DETROIT at 9-1 to win the WS is it worth it or do you think save your money
 
BAR your a baseball guyi'm thinking about betting DETROIT at 9-1 to win the WS is it worth it or do you think save your money

Save it.

I'd love it but man we are always missing hitting and bullpen come the playoffs.
 
Losing Mad Max is going to hurt. Can't wait for MLB to start and get a look at win team totals.
 
Millers baby, I gotta try it out sometime:cheers3:
BAR get STEED/hunt and some of the boys and sounds good millers bar its been a long time since I was there i'm not a big drinker but a few beers and that great famous hamburger who knows we might see that guy from the food channel
 
BAR/STEED come on guys drinks at MILLERS and after MILLERS we can go to hardcore pawn and by a gift for STEED:stripper:great bars on 8 mile
 
The Detroit Tigers got some good news regarding one of their most important players.
Designated hitter Victor Martinez is expected to be in the starting lineup when the season opens after undergoing left knee surgery Tuesday. The Tigers said Martinez will begin rehabilitation immediately and "will resume full activity in four to six weeks."
"We are very happy the surgery went well and that Victor will be ready to compete for the start of the 2015 season," general manager Dave Dombrowski said in a release.
Tigers manager Brad Ausmus shared Dombrowski's confidence.
"I would say based on Dr. (James) Andrews' assessment that this is about as good of news as we could have hoped for," Ausmus said. "We will certainly handle Victor carefully, especially early in the rehab process. And it is much more important to have him for the long term. But I'm optimistic he can be ready to open the season."
Martinez tore the medial meniscus in his left knee during a recent workout. A more serious injury to the same knee kept him out of action for the entire 2012 season.
Dr. James Andrews performed the surgery in Pensacola, Fla. Heading into the surgery, it was not clear how much work it would take to repair it. Dombrowski refused to speculate about a timetable prior to the surgery.
"First of all, we have to get all the swelling down and range of motion back," head athletic trainer Kevin Rand said. "Then we'll be able to work the muscles in and around the joint. Victor was in great shape prior to the surgery. That should really bode well for his rehab."
With spring training opening next week and the first full-squad workout set for Feb. 24, the Tigers still have one very major question mark. First baseman Miguel Cabrera had offseason foot surgery; the timetable for his return is not entirely clear.
It's clear to anyone who follows the Tigers at all how important Martinez and Cabrera are to the team. Martinez finished second in American League Most Valuable voting last season after hitting .335 with 32 home runs, 103 RBIs and a .974 OPS for the Tigers.
Cabrera, who won MVP awards in 2012 and 2013, hit .313 with 25 home runs, 109 RBIs and an .895 OPS last season despite battling his foot injury for a good chunk of the season. This will be the second consecutive season that Cabrera heads into spring without going through his normal offseason workout regimen. Cabrera had core muscle surgery last offseason.
 
Gibby and Morris doing games this year. Both are great color guys. Thankfully Rod is being phased out.
 
Gibby and Morris doing games this year. Both are great color guys. Thankfully Rod is being phased out.


Fox Sports Detroit baseball broadcasts will feature three analysts during the 2015 season.
Former Detroit Tigers greats Jack Morris and Kirk Gibson will work as analysts during Tigers broadcasts on Fox Sports Detroit this season. Those two will rotate with Rod Allen as the analyst working alongside play-by-play man Mario Impemba.
FSD announced the rotation in a news release Tuesday morning.
Morris made a handful of appearances as an analyst working alongside Impemba and Allen during the 2014 season. Morris has worked as a regular analyst for Minnesota Twins broadcasts on Fox Sports North and also worked as an analyst for Fox Sports 1.
"It was so great to be back in Detroit for the six games last season," Morris said in the release. "The fans in Detroit have always been incredible."
Gibson worked as an analyst on FSD from 1998 to 2002 and managed the Arizona Diamondbacks for the past five seasons.
"I'm looking forward to getting back in the booth this season," Gibson said. "I'm excited to offer some insights as both a player and manager on such a talented team and organization as the Detroit Tigers."
 
Solid additions.

Gibby once gave me and my parents and their friends the finger back when I was a teenager. Love that guy!
 
It's good to get the Tribe thread going good and early, thanks BAR.

Who's pitching for the Tigers? JV's been mostly crappy for two years. Who's filling out this staff after Price, Sanchez, JV ... am I forgetting anyone? They look pretty thin for the first 5-7 innings half the week.
 
Our time came and went two years ago after Boston loss.

Tear it down and rebuild, sell everybody. Give up the dream Mr. I, gonna die an empty man. Reinvest in the Wings.
 
tribe could be very scary this year. so many arms to like, kipnis & swisher bounce backs, Moss addition.
 
Last time SI did this, it was Joe Carter and Corey Snyder, and we lost a hundred games.
 
Love the pitching staff, front to back. Need to catch it and hit in the clutch this year.

I don't anticipate a Swisher bounce back, that would be some gravy. Guy's sucked his whole time here.
 
Always chasing the Tiger tail. Early showdown this year, my Michigan mopes. Zach McAllister will see you on Friday.
 
You'd think the Indians killed Miggy's mother and slept with his wife. Jesus Christ that guy.
 
This team is going to push 90 wins. Maybe more. Iglesias, gorzelanny, gose and Cespedes just great adds for various reasons. The Michigan guys know I'm usually pessimistic. Not this year.
 
Nah, anything can happen obviously. Just think bullpen is miles better by small adds. Defense and speed are better and Cespedes makes that lineup feared.
 
I like what Cespedes adds to the team as well.

Tribe has a habit of catching that team at the wrong time, either Tigs hot, Tribe banged up, or both. And Tribe still plays scared against Detroit. At least they pitch scared, get into jams and bad counts. Happy to see Tigs leave town. Long way to go.
 
First 6-0 for Detroit in 30 years, by the way. Winning streaks out of the gate are pretty nice.
 
Tip is Salazar in the rotation this year?

Yes, in Columbus. Horrible spring cost him a spot, he may be just a few more McAllister turds from being back up. They don't need a 5th starter more than one or two more times in April.
 
Gibby and Morris doing games this year. Both are great color guys. Thankfully Rod is being phased out.



Former Detroit Tigers outfielder and current Fox Sports Detroit analyst Kirk Gibson has been diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease.​
Fox Sports Detroit issued a release early Tuesday afternoon announcing the news.​
"As many Fox Sports Detroit viewers have noticed in recent weeks, Kirk Gibson has been absent from the broadcast booth since the Opening Day 2015 telecast," Fox Sports Detroit said in the release. "Kirk would like to disclose that after undergoing a series of tests, he has been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease."​
Kirk Gibson celebrates his three-run homer in Game 5 of the 1984 World Series.
AP File Photo

Gibson issued the following statement:​
"I have faced many different obstacles in my life, and have always maintained a strong belief that no matter the circumstances, I could overcome those obstacles. While this diagnosis poses a new kind of challenge for me, I intend to stay true to my beliefs. With the support of my family and friends, I will meet this challenge with the same determination and unwavering intensity that I have displayed in all of my endeavors in life. I look forward to being back at the ballpark as soon as possible."
Fox Sports Detroit said that it will "welcome Kirk back as his treatment permits" and looks forward to his return.
Gibson, who is 57, had been expected to be the FSD analyst on about 60 games this season. The Tigers announced during the offseason that they would rotate analysts between Rod Allen, Jack Morris and Gibson. Fox Sports Detroit had two analysts -- Gibson and Allen -- in the booth for opening day.
Gibson hit .273 with 195 home runs, 668 RBIs and an .834 OPS in 12 seasons with the Tigers.
 
Gibby's hands down my favorite Tiger, which is a tough thing to be. Only a few guys in the club.
 
Undefeated!!! Happy Opening Day! BAR is loose at the Bazouki


So, was out with wifey yesterday down in AH in afternoon and we went to Red Ox for late lunch...honestly haven't been there in 3 years...great selection of beers/bourbon/wisky....very impressed...but it was funny to me that I made it randomly on a Tuesday...

Lets shoot for June 23 or 30th...
 
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