KowboyKarl
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA Golden State owner and GM meeting with Mark Jackson now, and sources close to management and coaching staff believe Jackson will be fired.
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Lareux
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Lakers, Knicks, Thunder.....any team w/o a coach, or with a scrub as a coach should be looking at hiring Jackson. He's a damn good coach, and it seems that his players liked playing for him. I'm sure the reasons for the firing will come out before long, but it would be shocking if it was because the players had an issue with him.
braves
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Really?
I mean the players like him and that is important, but doesn't seem like the best x an o guy.
BetCrimes1984
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Didn't somebody post sometime back that he fired assistants that were showing a predilection for doing a better nuts & bolts job than he was capable of doing, that he was more of a player's coach than an Xs & Os coach?
It's all very well to have a guy who can manage the players as his strength, but if his ego is too big to tolerate having those around him who know more about the game itself, then you have a recipe for failure. Need a balance of both, preferably in the 1 person but it's not a prerequisite.
It's all very well to have a guy who can manage the players as his strength, but if his ego is too big to tolerate having those around him who know more about the game itself, then you have a recipe for failure. Need a balance of both, preferably in the 1 person but it's not a prerequisite.
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Johnnyonthespot
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If i was Kerr I would take GS job in a second.
Johnnyonthespot
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Is Kidd a better coach than Jackson? Doubt Kidd would do as well without the experience on the floor.
divol
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I honestly don't know. I read a lot of posts saying that, but from what I seen from the Warriors, he does a decent job at coaching as well.
They made few really nice plays in the end of games, he really made a lot of defensive adjustments last year, playing both Denver and SA.
I can't say I follow GSW too much, so maybe I missed something though...
As for firing assistants, I doubt that Scalabrine, in his first year in any coaching position, turned in an instant to a master mind.
I think that both times, they were managment guys and maybe Jackson just felt threatened by them, because he also aware of all the rumors and felt that they undermine him and his authority.
Bottom line - two key factors:
1) Players like him
2) His team did very good job both seasons he was the head coach.
What more do you need? If he is not the best coach, but his team does a great job, maybe we are judging a bit wrong here?
It's not like he took a team filled with stars. He improved Curry, Thompson, Barnes, Green and others.
I really feel he did a great job with David Lee as well.
Johnnyonthespot
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GS has so much potential.
I guess Vogel and Brooks are next.
Cant help but snicker everytime I see that soap commercial. "Thats it, no more questions?"
I guess Vogel and Brooks are next.
Cant help but snicker everytime I see that soap commercial. "Thats it, no more questions?"
KowboyKarl
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Kerr or Hoiberg rumored targets
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Just from the overall makeup of the roster, defense is their weakness, imo. Maybe they want a coach with a better defensive philosophy?
Dollaz
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I think you have the answer here.
I did get a good chuckle when down the stretch in the 4th quarter he's telling his guys they belong (each and every one of them) instead of focusing on Xs and Os.
P-Unit
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divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
How many "championship level" coaches are in this league?
Popovich. Maybe Thibodeau. Maybe Rivers. Who else?
I don't consider Spoelstra as "championship level" coach. I don't see any coach other than Pop, that can elevate a team from contender to champion level. Rivers and Spoelstra took champion level teams to the title. Very hard task to do, so they maybe borderline "championship level"/
About the early exit, with all the due respect, they still at least one level below Clippers, Thunder and Spurs, even with Bogut (their defensive anchor) playing. Without him... this is impossible task and GSW still did a great job, covering six of the 7 games ATS wise - so obviously they did better than bookies/ public expected them to do.
Also, about X's and O's - Jackson made huge defensive turnaround for this team. Their defense level elevated a lot under him and while it's obvious that Bogut and Iggy helped a lot, he did a lot better job on defense with mediocre defensive roster than Stotts for example did in Portland...
cogenman
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Disagree with Spoelstra comment...he makes sure the ball is in his stars hands every possession..lot of coaches don't do that for some reason. Also makes good adjustments at half.
Johnnyonthespot
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After reading cogs post, I'm sure Jackson is relieved to escape the politically correct madness of that environment. Definitely, not a good fit and no way in hell Hoiberg signs up for that. Not surprising, but it almost seems like a prerequisite for the area with Billy Beane and this gm both being Yag. Never thought about that before. Stranger situation than I perceived.
CASH
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I think the front office is happy to get rid of him... And his beliefs before he says something that will cast a dark cloud on that team...the team is going in a positive direction ...he has brought negativity end it now before it gets out of hand...
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Lareux
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You have the wrong Billy Beane here....Billy Bean is a former MLB player who has come out as Yag....Billy Beane, the GM of the A's is not Yag.
Billy Beane, the GM of the Oakland A's, is not Yag. See link below.
http://billkonigsberg.blogspot.com/2011/10/billy-bean-vs-billy-beane.html
http://billkonigsberg.blogspot.com/2011/10/billy-bean-vs-billy-beane.html
Johnnyonthespot
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Raiderman and lareux than you very much. I was clearly confused and have been for a while about that. I was always confused about that issue in money ball too. Appreciate it and thanks for not calling me an idiot. Cause, that was idiotic of me. Not sure when and where i started thinking that.
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Johnnyonthespot
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Cash, respect your comments. I certainly dont think Jackson is a bad guy, maybe not a good x and o guy (not knowledgeable enough) but definitely not a good fit.
CASH
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Exactly - the fit wasn't there for what the "corporate folks" wanted....and it is their team and their brand..
CASH
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Former Celtics legend (and CSNNE broadcaster) Brian Scalabrine did not have a very good go of his first season as an assistant coach with the Warriors.
Clearly, he and head coach Mark Jackson did not see eye-to-eye, and Scalabrine was banished to the Warriors' D-League affiliate in March.
It's uncommon for the coaching staff to butt heads to that degree, but Scal wasn't the only assistant coach gone from the team before the season was over. Another assistant, Darren Erman, was fired for violating an unspecified team policy that ESPN later reported was Erman recording conversations with other coaches and players unbeknownst to them.
Erman was quickly scooped back up by the Celtics and made Director of NBA Scouting. Scalabrine was relieved of his duties on the same day Mark Jackson was fired by the Warriors after their first round exit to the Clippers.
Jackson spoke to the NBA's Sirius XM radio station on Wednesday where he lit into both Scalabrine and Erman, and refused to mention either of them by name.
It appears that whatever Scalabrine did to bother Jackson had been going on for quite some time, and Jackson just finally had enough of it after he realized Scalabrine wasn't going to change. Jackson regrets hiring both assistants.
“The one that was demoted [Scalabrine], I would have had handled it six weeks, a month, two months earlier,' Jackson said. "The things that took place from his side, I would have nipped it in the bud initially. That’s my fault for allowing it to go on. I’m pretty much a guy, just like ministry, I try to show you a different way of handling it. Hope that seeing me handle your disrespect, you’ll come around and realize this isn’t the way to handle it. Fortunately for me, it works for a lot of folks, there are some folks that just won’t get it and you have to handle them differently. I would do that differently.
“As far as assistants, you have to pick people who are loyal and dedicated. It’s inexcusable what the second assistant [Erman] did. That cannot be tolerated. For folks to say, two situations, it’s obviously documented that they both were 100 percent wrong. The only fault I got is hiring those guys. I would use wisdom in who is around me.”
It sure sounds like Jackson felt both Scalabrine and Erman were trying going behind his back and maybe even take his job from him, although he said he was speaking "in general" terms.
“Some people are pretty determined to be successful in life. Some people, it’s not enough to go from being a bottom assistant to moving up another step and another step. Some people are anxious and excited to try to climb all the way to your seat. That’s unfortunate. Because whatever job I’ve been called to do, I want to do that job with everything in me, and have no eyes on anybody else’s job. That’s just not how I do business.”
If anybody's anxious to climb into Jackson's next seat, it may be one in the broadcaster's booth.
Clearly, he and head coach Mark Jackson did not see eye-to-eye, and Scalabrine was banished to the Warriors' D-League affiliate in March.
It's uncommon for the coaching staff to butt heads to that degree, but Scal wasn't the only assistant coach gone from the team before the season was over. Another assistant, Darren Erman, was fired for violating an unspecified team policy that ESPN later reported was Erman recording conversations with other coaches and players unbeknownst to them.
Erman was quickly scooped back up by the Celtics and made Director of NBA Scouting. Scalabrine was relieved of his duties on the same day Mark Jackson was fired by the Warriors after their first round exit to the Clippers.
Jackson spoke to the NBA's Sirius XM radio station on Wednesday where he lit into both Scalabrine and Erman, and refused to mention either of them by name.
It appears that whatever Scalabrine did to bother Jackson had been going on for quite some time, and Jackson just finally had enough of it after he realized Scalabrine wasn't going to change. Jackson regrets hiring both assistants.
“The one that was demoted [Scalabrine], I would have had handled it six weeks, a month, two months earlier,' Jackson said. "The things that took place from his side, I would have nipped it in the bud initially. That’s my fault for allowing it to go on. I’m pretty much a guy, just like ministry, I try to show you a different way of handling it. Hope that seeing me handle your disrespect, you’ll come around and realize this isn’t the way to handle it. Fortunately for me, it works for a lot of folks, there are some folks that just won’t get it and you have to handle them differently. I would do that differently.
“As far as assistants, you have to pick people who are loyal and dedicated. It’s inexcusable what the second assistant [Erman] did. That cannot be tolerated. For folks to say, two situations, it’s obviously documented that they both were 100 percent wrong. The only fault I got is hiring those guys. I would use wisdom in who is around me.”
It sure sounds like Jackson felt both Scalabrine and Erman were trying going behind his back and maybe even take his job from him, although he said he was speaking "in general" terms.
“Some people are pretty determined to be successful in life. Some people, it’s not enough to go from being a bottom assistant to moving up another step and another step. Some people are anxious and excited to try to climb all the way to your seat. That’s unfortunate. Because whatever job I’ve been called to do, I want to do that job with everything in me, and have no eyes on anybody else’s job. That’s just not how I do business.”
If anybody's anxious to climb into Jackson's next seat, it may be one in the broadcaster's booth.
KowboyKarl
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Wow...some crazy shit goin on. I wonder what Scalabrine was doing to piss him off. On another note, Scalabrine is a "Celtics legend"?
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