Futures Discussion - 2022

B.A.R.

B.A.R.

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We generally get some good content in these types of threads each season. Love to see where everyone stands right now as hustle into another unusual season.

Yeah, I am a little SMODOD about having the Dodgers and Braves the past two years, so no way I come close this year but I'll list my plays (all before the lockout).

I'm definitely looking for a good RSW. These are so much fun because it keeps you involved all season unless the team of your choice is way off the projection. Last years Pirates under aged me a few years, no doubt.

Always interested in HR or other statistical props (split last year with Showtime and Bryce).

Anyways, spring is here and I think many are excited to get bases going again!

Tampa +1600
Toronto +1600

I had the Jays last year, that was one helluva run to almost get in. Time to shine Canada.

Tampa price is better now, obviously.

The Mets price is awful and you rarely find value with the Doyers and Yanks. I'll be stalking all season long for something else....
 
I have Dodgers over 97 1/2 - They always figure out ways to load up.
MLW over 88 1/2 - Every year a steal on the over
Detroit over 78 1/2 - Really tough out last year and going to be better this year.
Cleveland under 75 1/2 - Call them whatever name you want this team is horrible. Front office fucked the fans big time by giving away everything. No better than what the Marlins did a few years ago. The fans are going to be really pissed. Never had more than 10,000 fans a night last year and the front office will remember that as the good old days by the end of this year.

I can tell you one good thing about Cle. They have so little hitting that if you take whoever they play +2 1/2 runs you will win 130 out of 162 games. GL
 
CPA-hole said:
I'm on board Mariners over 85.5 and +500 to win the AL West.
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I like what they got going on but those 90 wins last year were kinda fugazi. they were more like a 75-77 win team, almost gotta worry even if their run differential spiked that much would they have little more bad luck this year? Did they do enough this offseason between additions and hopefully improvement from young players to add 8-10 wins? I like what they have done but I dunno, kinda think based off last year and loftier expectations this one they might be a tad disappointing from a w/l perspective then they take a huge jump next season. Or maybe the vets mesh quickly, all the young talent takes off this year and this sounds silly! Lol

The dumpster fire the A’s appear striving to be should gift them a few more wins, I doubt rangers improvements will be as great as oak decline. I never know wtf to expect from halo’s since they seem to love filling their pitching rotation w huge question marks. I expect they will be better this year, how much exactly I’m not sure, maybe a touch above .500 if things go well? Stros still the far and away class for this season, losing Correa obviously hurts but the lineup is still really good and the pitching staff easily the best in the division with the younger guys getting better and JV healthy.
 
KJ said:
Need BAR to think objectively but I really like the Tigres this year in a division that's White Sox hype then nothing

Tigs could run away w/the division
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White sox are stacked, they'll win by 10 games minimum.
 
HUNT said:
White sox are stacked, they'll win by 10 games minimum.
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Hot takes

I like my hot take and sticking by it. I don't bet futures so there's that.

Let's have some fun with Champions League elite 8 tomorrow playa hayta....City and Pool at the same time is kinda fun, then play each other this weekend, then CL again next Wed at the same time. Tension is the reason we loosen up! But....football.
 
KJ said:
Hot takes

I like my hot take and sticking by it. I don't bet futures so there's that.

Let's have some fun with Champions League elite 8 tomorrow playa hayta....City and Pool at the same time is kinda fun, then play each other this weekend, then CL again next Wed at the same time. Tension is the reason we loosen up! But....football.
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GL I only bet WC. I will lose my ass.
 
I dont see how Arz or Balt get close in those brutal divisions. RSW totals would have Arizona improving by 15 games and Baltimore improving by 9 games over last season.
 
C-MAN said:
Milw and StL overs. Rest of division is trash.
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It is crazy to look at cards lineup and say they have easily the best lineup in the division but that where the central is these days, horrid! Brewers obviously have far and away the best pitching,, those 2 should smash the rest these bum teams not even pretending to try and compete! With the bs expanded playoffs if either these 2 teams miss them they had terrible years cause they have a huge advantage over the better teams in the east and west who only get to face one or 2 cup cakes on unbalanced schedule.
 
HUNT said:
White sox are stacked, they'll win by 10 games minimum.
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Losing lynn a bad start for a team who had ton of injuries last year. They should run away but unlike the nl central I think the bottom feeders in al central are all getting better, gonna be competitive. What really helps them is the Indians (or whatever they called now) don’t want to spend any money so there really no true direct competition unless twins or tigers rise up, which I don’t think it out the question.
 
KJ said:
Tigers got Meadows from Tampa last night, that's significant imo
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Huge, more than anything think it proved they invested in trying to win now which obviously significant for this conversation! Long term I dunno if it was a great move but they woulda had a hole for a couple months without making it. If I’m any other team I’m scared shitless to trade w rays tho! On surface I thought it was a big win for tigers but doesn’t take much digging to understand tampa side and how much it could benefit them also. Tigers had a surplus in the infield tho so could be one them rare trades that works for everyone.
 
cubsker said:
Ohtani die?
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i'm probably the only ohtani non-believer but i think last year was an aberration as i don't think he's going to play many full seasons in his career. besides ichiro, asian players always break down quickly in mlb. he has already had numerous problems, is in his late 20s, and the double-duty is just going to make it worse. i don't think we will be seeing him best last season's performance, and wouldn't be surprised if he never matches those numbers again. i had over 100 of his rookies and liquidated all of them right after he got mvp.
 
big_units said:
i'm probably the only ohtani non-believer but i think last year was an aberration as i don't think he's going to play many full seasons in his career. besides ichiro, asian players always break down quickly in mlb. he has already had numerous problems, is in his late 20s, and the double-duty is just going to make it worse. i don't think we will be seeing him best last season's performance, and wouldn't be surprised if he never matches those numbers again. i had over 100 of his rookies and liquidated all of them right after he got mvp.
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Could be correct but you playing Robert with health concerns. No doubt you got far better odds on Robert so the bet makes more sense but gotta bring up ohtani as one the horses in the race if healthy.
 
2daBank said:
Could be correct but you playing Robert with health concerns. No doubt you got far better odds on Robert so the bet makes more sense but gotta bring up ohtani as one the horses in the race if healthy.
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yeah i think they're both a health risk...i'd be interested in ohtani at +2700 haha. if he does stay healthy, then yeah it's a 4-man race. i think there is a better than 50% chance ohtani has a DL stint this season though.
 
big_units said:
yeah i think they're both a health risk...i'd be interested in ohtani at +2700 haha. if he does stay healthy, then yeah it's a 4-man race. i think there is a better than 50% chance ohtani has a DL stint this season though.
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At 27-1 think books would have to hire a hit man to take him out if he still healthy come august! Lol
 
2daBank said:
Huge, more than anything think it proved they invested in trying to win now which obviously significant for this conversation! Long term I dunno if it was a great move but they woulda had a hole for a couple months without making it. If I’m any other team I’m scared shitless to trade w rays tho! On surface I thought it was a big win for tigers but doesn’t take much digging to understand tampa side and how much it could benefit them also. Tigers had a surplus in the infield tho so could be one them rare trades that works for everyone.
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We all know the hand TB has to play year in and out, in this case the what the Tigres offered was an expendable utility guy, the kind TB thrives on. But I'm much more interested on being on the spending side if I'm a fan of that team than going through the puzzle that the Rays have to solve every season.
 
KJ said:
We all know the hand TB has to play year in and out, in this case the what the Tigres offered was an expendable utility guy, the kind TB thrives on. But I'm much more interested on being on the spending side if I'm a fan of that team than going through the puzzle that the Rays have to solve every season.
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I think you underselling the prospect rays got. He profiles as a guy who walks more than strikes out who can play all over the infield. Long run it easy to see his war being as good as meadows for less money since meadows already in arbitration years. Rays are so good how they go about it, if that front office only had a middle the road competitive payroll! I cringe whenever cards trade w them, Still afraid this Liberore kid not gonna work out, certainly not into a ace or why would rays give him up? They know young pitching! Anyways back to this trade, good article by fangraphs

blogs.fangraphs.com

Rays Go Full Rays, Trade Austin Meadows to Tigers for Future Considerations

A trade that keeps looking different depending on which angle you’re considering.
blogs.fangraphs.com blogs.fangraphs.com
 
2daBank said:
At 27-1 think books would have to hire a hit man to take him out if he still healthy come august! Lol
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they probably would. i was going to take his HR total under thinking they would throw up a mid 40's, but it's only 38.5. might take his rbi total under instead. if i could put a short on ohtani's career numbers right now i would.
 
big_units said:
yeah i think they're both a health risk...i'd be interested in ohtani at +2700 haha. if he does stay healthy, then yeah it's a 4-man race. i think there is a better than 50% chance ohtani has a DL stint this season though.
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Even if he spends a fourth of the season on the DL, that's still 1.5x the output of a normal player.
 
TB and Oak always seem to outperform expectations. Oak won't have much expectations to outperform this year. Lol
 
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