Friday bases

[SportsNut]

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=Column_Date_Headers_Odds><TD colSpan=7>MLB Baseball - Fri 4/10

</TD></TR><TR class=Column_Headers_Odds><TD colSpan=3>Game</TD><TD>Run Line</TD><TD>Money Line</TD><TD>Total Runs</TD><TD>More</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>901</TD><TD>Chicago Cubs
R. Harden</TD><TD>-1.5 +115</TD><TD>-143</TD><TD>OVER 8 -109</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>01:05 PM</TD><TD>902</TD><TD>Milwaukee Brewers
B. Looper</TD><TD>+1.5 -125</TD><TD>+135</TD><TD>UNDER 8 -101</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>903</TD><TD>Philadelphia Phillies
C. Hamels</TD><TD>-1.5 +123</TD><TD>-133</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 -113</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>01:10 PM</TD><TD>904</TD><TD>Colorado Rockies
J. Marquis</TD><TD>+1.5 -133</TD><TD>+125</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 +103</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>905</TD><TD>Pittsburgh Pirates
J. Karstens</TD><TD>+1.5 -162</TD><TD>+130</TD><TD>OVER 9 -117</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:10 PM</TD><TD>906</TD><TD>Cincinnati Reds
J. Cueto</TD><TD>-1.5 +152</TD><TD>-138</TD><TD>UNDER 9 +107</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>907</TD><TD>New York Mets
J. Maine</TD><TD>-1.5 +133</TD><TD>-117</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 -102</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>04:10 PM</TD><TD>908</TD><TD>Florida Marlins
A. Sanchez</TD><TD>+1.5 -143</TD><TD>+109</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 -108</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>909</TD><TD>Washington Nationals
S. Martis</TD><TD>+1.5 -120</TD><TD>+185</TD><TD>OVER 8.5 -109</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:35 PM</TD><TD>910</TD><TD>Atlanta Braves
D. Lowe</TD><TD>-1.5 +110</TD><TD>-201</TD><TD>UNDER 8.5 -101</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>911</TD><TD>Houston Astros
M. Hampton</TD><TD>+1.5 -164</TD><TD>+126</TD><TD>OVER 9 -110</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>05:15 PM</TD><TD>912</TD><TD>St Louis Cardinals
J. Pineiro</TD><TD>-1.5 +154</TD><TD>-134</TD><TD>UNDER 9 +100</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>913</TD><TD>Los Angeles Dodgers
J. Mc Donald</TD><TD>+1.5 -221</TD><TD>-111</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 -120</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>06:40 PM</TD><TD>914</TD><TD>Arizona D-Backs
J. Garland</TD><TD>-1.5 +201</TD><TD>+103</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 +110</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>915</TD><TD>San Francisco Giants
B. Zito</TD><TD>-1.5 +151</TD><TD>-108</TD><TD>OVER 8 +107</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>07:05 PM</TD><TD>916</TD><TD>San Diego Padres
S. Hill</TD><TD>+1.5 -161</TD><TD>+100</TD><TD>UNDER 8 -117</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>917</TD><TD>Texas Rangers
K. Benson</TD><TD>+1.5 -152</TD><TD>+132</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 -112</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>10:05 AM</TD><TD>918</TD><TD>Detroit Tigers
A. Galarraga</TD><TD>-1.5 +142</TD><TD>-140</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 +102</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>919</TD><TD>Toronto Blue Jays
S. Richmond</TD><TD>+1.5 -152</TD><TD>+132</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 +112</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>01:05 PM</TD><TD>920</TD><TD>Cleveland Indians
S. Lewis</TD><TD>-1.5 +142</TD><TD>-140</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 -122</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>921</TD><TD>New York Yankees
A. Pettitte</TD><TD>-1.5 -108</TD><TD>-170</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 +101</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>01:10 PM</TD><TD>922</TD><TD>Kansas City Royals
S. Ponson</TD><TD>+1.5 -102</TD><TD>+162</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 -111</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>923</TD><TD>Tampa Bay Rays
A. Sonnanstine</TD><TD>-1.5 +131</TD><TD>-121</TD><TD>OVER 10 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>924</TD><TD>Baltimore Orioles
M. Hendrickson</TD><TD>+1.5 -141</TD><TD>+113</TD><TD>UNDER 10 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>925</TD><TD>Minnesota Twins
R. Dickey</TD><TD>+1.5 -150</TD><TD>+133</TD><TD>OVER 9 -115</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>05:10 PM</TD><TD>926</TD><TD>Chicago White Sox
J. Contreras</TD><TD>-1.5 +140</TD><TD>-141</TD><TD>UNDER 9 +105</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>927</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox
T. Wakefield</TD><TD>+1.5 -201</TD><TD>-103</TD><TD>OVER 9 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>07:05 PM</TD><TD>928</TD><TD>LAA Angels
JER WEAVER</TD><TD>-1.5 +183</TD><TD>-105</TD><TD>UNDER 9 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Fri 4/10</TD><TD>929</TD><TD>Seattle Mariners
R. Rowland-Smith</TD><TD>+1.5 -169</TD><TD>+136</TD><TD>OVER 8 -112</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>07:05 PM</TD><TD>930</TD><TD>Oakland Athletics
B ANDERSON</TD><TD>-1.5 +159</TD><TD>-144</TD><TD>UNDER 8 +102</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


AL thoughts :

Tigers ML : Galarraga in the day and the way Cle SP hurled in the past series few teams could win . Benson bound to have some jitters making his return after 2 years ..

Indians ML : Need a win after ugly series in Texas and get Scott Richmond who will struggle vs LHBs. Toronto managed something like 8 runs the entire season series vs CLE last year and the lone win was 3-0 when they scored 3 runs in the top 10th after Lee exited . On the road Tor had issues vs LHSP as they scored 3 runs or less 13 of the 20 games and were shutout 4 times and thats 5 if you count Lee's 0-0 game after 9.

Yanks ML: Dangerous last year or two taking the bombers in a series opener but Ponson vs these LHBs? I admired Ponson gut last year as a Yankee because the effort was there 110% but he has no outpitch really ...look at how KC fared in Chi vs 2 LHPs ....

WSox ML : Twins havent shown me much yet and just dont buy into them . Dickey ? Contreras supposedly has his velocity back and twins struggling with the stick ....

LAA: Bostons 1st trip out west and maybe the trip bothers them more in game 2 . Also the whole Adenhart situation should clearly be a rallying point for the Angels but at the same time one could say its a huge distraction as well..

NL thoughts :
Brewers ML : Just noy buying Harden yet he didnt look good to me at Yankee Stadium and Looper was rather successful vs Chi in the past making his Milw debut looking to impress ..?

Reds ML : expect further maturation from Johnny Cueto and unless Jack Wilson kees having monster days the Pirate lineup remains quiet . Karstens is serviceable but Joey Votto sure look sweet right now

Unders @ Florida and @ Atlanta ? : Lowe looked great vs Philly and Martis is a kid who can pitch IMO just has to mature ...think 9.5 is kinda high for Maine and Sanchez was supposedly closer to his old form this ST ...

SFG and maybe over ; expect a solid outing from Zito and Hill with the constant injury concerns just doesnt seem to have the work in but has a live arm ....SD pen worked a decent amount already as well ....

Thats it so far ! GL all LEANS:cheers:

 

[gsro]

goodluck

think this years jays are different bunch at the plate like the over in that game no lean to any sides as we dont' know which richmond or lewis we see

 

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Shawn Hill yielded three runs -- two earned -- over four innings Tuesday in a win over the Brewers.
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Shawn Hill surrendered two solo homers in two innings against the A's Friday in his Padres debut.
Nomar Garciaparra and Jack Cust took him deep. The Padres will keep trying to stretch Hill out with an eye towards putting him in the rotation, perhaps in mid-April.
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</TD><TD align=left> Shawn Hill-S - Padres</TD><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 10px" align=right>Mar. 25 - 8:19 pm et</TD><TD align=right>

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Shawn Hill is expected to make his Padres debut on Friday against the A's.
According to manager Bud Black, "It might be a little unlikely he can help us as a starting pitcher [initially]. In the bullpen... possibly," Black said. Hill's goal is to be able to throw four innings by the time the team breaks camp, indicating a bullpen role initially, but we're expecting him to claim a rotation spot once his arm is ready for the increased workload.
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</TD><TD align=left> Shawn Hill-S - Padres</TD><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 10px" align=right>Mar. 24 - 3:05 pm et</TD><TD align=right>

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Padres signed RHP Shawn Hill to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training.
Still no word on when Hill will get into his first game for the Padres. It's probably not realistic to expect him to open the season in the rotation, given that he pitched just one inning in his most recent spring start eight days ago. Still, he'll definitely be there once he's stretched out.
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[SportsNut]

goodluck

think this years jays are different bunch at the plate like the over in that game no lean to any sides as we dont' know which richmond or lewis we see

Jays definetly underperformed at the plate some last season and think that goes for LHPs as well but they were just flat terrible offensively on the road vs southpaws . Richmond is not really a major league pitcher IMO because he just will struggle with LHbs and CLE will be screaming Home SWEET Home IMO ..dont get me wrong Lewis was pretty poor this past spring but also was damn solid last Sept ...somewhere inbewteen is all I ask ..

technically Lee shut them out in both starts , Laffey shut them out 12-0 and they lost to CC 6-1 . Thats 1 run in 4 games start vs a LHP in regulation ...(previous years were 2,2,4, and 5 runs in the game started by LHPs)

06 to 08 Cle is 9-1 at home vs Tor with the only loss the 3-0 xtra inning game ...also Tribe LHPs are 8-3 in that time span vs Tor and Jeremy Sowers had great success in the past vs Tor as did Laffey last year so its just no CC and Lee was no prize before last season..

Interesting to see what Scott Lewis brings he was praised as the best of the bunch and won the 5th spot then had 2 terrible outings as soon as that was announced ...

good luck :shake:

also Jays 2-15 last 17 games @ Cle and 7-23 last 30 meetings
Indians are 25-10 in their last 35 during game 1 of a series.

 

[SportsNut]

UNDERDOG on the ARL update :

Sunday 1-0
Monday 5-0
Tuesday 4-1
Wednesday 9-0
Thursday 2-3

Dogs on the ARL which is them laying -1.5 RUNS are now 21-4 with the losers all not suprisingly low scoring games (4-3 or less). Also Thursday was the 1st bad day and what happened ? Runs were at a Premium today ! 10 games means 20 teams and 9 teams had 2 runs or less and 4 more had 3 or 4 runs ...

32-7 on the RL entering today and just 6-4 .....now 38-11...

so getaway day means stay away from laying -1.5 runs even on the ARL unless simly for extra value:cheers:

 

[gsro]

Jays definetly underperformed at the plate some last season and think that goes for LHPs as well but they were just flat terrible offensively on the road vs southpaws . Richmond is not really a major league pitcher IMO because he just will struggle with LHbs and CLE will be screaming Home SWEET Home IMO ..dont get me wrong Lewis was pretty poor this past spring but also was damn solid last Sept ...somewhere inbewteen is all I ask ..

technically Lee shut them out in both starts , Laffey shut them out 12-0 and they lost to CC 6-1 . Thats 1 run in 4 games start vs a LHP in regulation ...(previous years were 2,2,4, and 5 runs in the game started by LHPs)

06 to 08 Cle is 9- at home vs Tor with the only loss the 3-0 xtra inning game ...als Tribe LHPs are 8-3 in that time vs Tor and Jeremy Sowers had great success in the past vs Tor

Interesting to see what Scott Lewis brings he was praised as the best of the bunch and won the 5th spot then had 2 terrible outings as soon as that was announced ...

good luck :shake:

also Jays 2-15 last 17 games @ Cle and 7-23 last 30 meetings
Indians are 25-10 in their last 35 during game 1 of a series.

dont' expect a jays win here, especially after that piss poor performance in arlington..my point is that jays will put up runs tomorrow which will sorta keep them in the game i do expect choo and sizemore to open the scoring and it really does come down to the pitching where I think there's goign to be a letdown from both pitchers..10 runs isn't much infact indians could do almost hit 10 by them selves given the fact that Richmond, who I agree isn't a MLB pitcher, can't pitch to lefties...maybe first 5 over and the ML is worth a look either way my play is over 9.5 @ 2.05..atleast i'm attracted :shake:

 

[SHSUHorn]

I almost pulled the trigger on the over in the indians game. Still might...

 

[SportsNut]

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RA Dickey in his short apps vs Chicago and the lone 08 app was 2inn 8 runs allowed ..

 

[tuck321]

Does Ponson normally have bad spring training numbers?

 

[SportsNut]

dont' expect a jays win here, especially after that piss poor performance in arlington..my point is that jays will put up runs tomorrow which will sorta keep them in the game i do expect choo and sizemore to open the scoring and it really does come down to the pitching where I think there's goign to be a letdown from both pitchers..10 runs isn't much infact indians could do almost hit 10 by them selves given the fact that Richmond, who I agree isn't a MLB pitcher, can't pitch to lefties...maybe first 5 over and the ML is worth a look either way my play is over 9.5 @ 2.05..atleast i'm attracted :shake:

Probably my narrow minded mindset when looking at this game . I just cant get past how badTor has been vs CLE in the past and didnt real see anything special with them vs Det . Verlander was terrible allowed 9 runs in 3 innings , Jackson shut them down but Lyons blew that game and still they had just 5 hits , Miner shut them down and Porcello was solid thorugh 5 innings allowing just 2 runs but he was pulled the relievers failed and Tor put up a 4 spot . Think they just had a couple big innings and little else the whole series ( think 1st and 3rd in game 1 , b8th in game 2 and b 6th in game 4) ...

Cant argue with the fact CLE could do it all by themselves and Tor did play 4 games already so the pen and how its used could be in play as well ...

Good Luck , like you said its not that we disagree..:cheers:

 

[SportsNut]

Does Ponson normally have bad spring training numbers?

Its a guessing game with these WBC guys IMO. Ponson was solid for the netherlands and crapy in Spring Training . He is simply a pitch to contact pitcher and past few years you can see how poor his hits to inning ratio is but the trouble is when he lacks commands and is walking guys . Eventually the baserunners led him to pitcjing out of jam after jam and usually he fails to get out of one and its big inning ..can his K rate be any worse then it was last year ?




<TABLE id=tblStats cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" align=left><TBODY><TR bgColor=#e7e3e7><TD><TABLE class=td0 cellSpacing=0 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=_ctl9_tdStats vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=NHLsubheadingStats style="COLOR: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000572" noWrap colSpan=17>Career Stats Pitching</TD></TR><TR class=bsubcontentStats style="COLOR: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #8e8d8c"><TD> Year</TD><TD>Team</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>W</TD><TD>L</TD><TD>SV</TD><TD>IP</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>ER</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>CG</TD><TD>SHO</TD><TD>ERA</TD><TD>WHIP</TD></TR><TR class=tro><TD>1998</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>135.0</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>79</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>85</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5.27</TD><TD>1.47</TD></TR><TR class=tra><TD>1999</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>210.0</TD><TD>227</TD><TD>118</TD><TD>110</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4.71</TD><TD>1.46</TD></TR><TR class=tro><TD>2000</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>222.0</TD><TD>223</TD><TD>125</TD><TD>119</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>152</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4.82</TD><TD>1.38</TD></TR><TR class=tra><TD>2001</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>138.1</TD><TD>161</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4.95</TD><TD>1.43</TD></TR><TR class=tro><TD>2002</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>176.0</TD><TD>172</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>120</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4.09</TD><TD>1.34</TD></TR><TR class=tra><TD>2003</TD><TD>SF </TD><TD>31</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>216.0</TD><TD>211</TD><TD>94</TD><TD>90</TD><TD>61</TD><TD>134</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3.75</TD><TD>1.26</TD></TR><TR class=tro><TD>2004</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>215.2</TD><TD>265</TD><TD>136</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>115</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>5.30</TD><TD>1.55</TD></TR><TR class=tra><TD>2005</TD><TD>BAL</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>130.1</TD><TD>177</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>90</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6.21</TD><TD>1.73</TD></TR><TR class=tro><TD>2006</TD><TD>NYY</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>85.0</TD><TD>108</TD><TD>62</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6.25</TD><TD>1.69</TD></TR><TR class=tra><TD>2007</TD><TD>MIN</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>37.2</TD><TD>54</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6.93</TD><TD>1.88</TD></TR><TR class=tro><TD>2008</TD><TD>NYY</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>135.2</TD><TD>170</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5.04</TD><TD>1.61</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000572><TD class=empty colSpan=17></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e7e3e7><TD><TABLE class=td0 cellSpacing=0 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=_ctl12_tdStats vAlign=top></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e7e3e7><TD><TABLE class=td0 cellSpacing=0 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=_ctl15_tdStats vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=NHLsubheadingStats style="COLOR: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000572" noWrap>Season Totals - Minors Pitching</TD><TR></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class=td0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bsubcontentStats style="COLOR: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #8e8d8c"><TD noWrap>Club</TD><TD noWrap>Class</TD><TD noWrap>G</TD><TD noWrap>GS</TD><TD noWrap>IP</TD><TD noWrap>W</TD><TD noWrap>L</TD><TD noWrap>SV</TD><TD noWrap>R</TD><TD noWrap>ER</TD><TD noWrap>H</TD><TD noWrap>BB</TD><TD noWrap>K</TD><TD noWrap>CG</TD><TD noWrap>SO</TD><TD noWrap>ERA</TD><TD noWrap>WHP</TD></TR><TR class=tro><TD>Oklahoma (PCL)</TD><TD noWrap>AAA</TD><TD noWrap>5</TD><TD noWrap>4</TD><TD noWrap>23.3</TD><TD noWrap>1</TD><TD noWrap>2</TD><TD noWrap>0</TD><TD noWrap>9 </TD><TD noWrap>9</TD><TD noWrap>25</TD><TD noWrap>9</TD><TD noWrap>12</TD><TD noWrap>0</TD><TD noWrap>0</TD><TD noWrap>3.47</TD><TD noWrap>1.46</TD></TR><TR class=tra><TD>Scranton/Wilkes-Barre (INT)</TD><TD noWrap>AAA</TD><TD noWrap>1</TD><TD noWrap>1</TD><TD noWrap>4.0</TD><TD noWrap>0</TD><TD noWrap>0</TD><TD noWrap>0</TD><TD noWrap>2 </TD><TD noWrap>1</TD><TD noWrap>3</TD><TD noWrap>3</TD><TD noWrap>2</TD><TD noWrap>0</TD><TD noWrap>0</TD><TD noWrap>2.25</TD><TD noWrap>1.50</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000572><TD class=empty></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[SportsNut]

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ponson vs LHBs last season..

 

[RetroVK]

..can his K rate be any worse then it was last year

based on the spring it can

 

[RetroVK]

UNDERDOG on the ARL update :

Sunday 1-0
Monday 5-0
Tuesday 4-1
Wednesday 9-0
Thursday 2-3

Dogs on the ARL which is them laying -1.5 RUNS are now 21-4 with the losers all not suprisingly low scoring games (4-3 or less). Also Thursday was the 1st bad day and what happened ? Runs were at a Premium today ! 10 games means 20 teams and 9 teams had 2 runs or less and 4 more had 3 or 4 runs ...

32-7 on the RL entering today and just 6-4 .....now 38-11...

so getaway day means stay away from laying -1.5 runs even on the ARL unless simly for extra value:cheers:

good stuff

 

[gsro]

not at all sportsnut, not trying to argue about if either one of us are right, jsut trying to create a healthy discussion here and we'll probably be seeing our daily discussions start soon once the season earns a little maturity into the season

 

[SportsNut]

Yanks , Reds , WSox and Indians might make a nice 4 team parlay

 

[SportsNut]

not at all sportsnut, not trying to argue about if either one of us are right, jsut trying to create a healthy discussion here and we'll probably be seeing our daily discussions start soon once the season earns a little maturity into the season

oh yeah , I didt think you were arguing nor did I take negatively . I was just trying to say I think I am so fixated on Toronto's past history its probably blinding me a little here ...no worries and feel free to argue with me anyway ...:cheers:

 

[Smokedawg]

Hey Nut, what do you think of the over in Colorado tomorrow?

9.5 seems a bit low seeing as how Hamels really isnt King Cole yet...he was topping out at 85 to 87 in his start on Saturday and if he cant get that speed difference between his fastball and the change up he could get hit.

And that doesnt even take into account that the WFCs might get 10 off Marquis by themselves...

 

[RetroVK]

nut , can you talk me onto the reds ?? i mean i love the matchup here but i just dont know if i can trust the reds to score enough for me to lay that kind of price.

 

[SportsNut]

Hey Nut, what do you think of the over in Colorado tomorrow?

9.5 seems a bit low seeing as how Hamels really isnt King Cole yet...he was topping out at 85 to 87 in his start on Saturday and if he cant get that speed difference between his fastball and the change up he could get hit.

And that doesnt even take into account that the WFCs might get 10 off Marquis by themselves...

I think it might be a little tricky . Dont get me wrong , think what you said was accurate , its just there are a couple things that have me concerned .

1st is Phillies going West for the 1st time and off a game which both sides had double digit runs . The good about that though was Philly had no offense before that so it needed that breakout game .....

2nd is Marquis was terrible this Spring but has been very good at Coors in the past and not to shabby vs Philly ...
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Coors Field</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>g4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>st3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>wins</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>28.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>26</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>11</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2hr</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.51</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.22</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.232</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

guy who relies on a 2 seamer with now what is a huge park because of the humidor ...(always was huge but not kinda plays big )

also Marquis might be just a tad better vs LHB then RHs...

Rollins just 3/31 lifetime vs him....

3rd thing was cooler and wetter weather expected through the weekend..saw like mid 50s and low of like 36 with som ebig wind gusts at night around 25MPH but not sure in relation to the park that was ...

so would like to see the weather here for the total but might take COL since we are paying for Hamels at like 75-80%..:cheers:

 

[SportsNut]

nut , can you talk me onto the reds ?? i mean i love the matchup here but i just dont know if i can trust the reds to score enough for me to lay that kind of price.

I agree the price is really at the limit of where we want it but would be suprised to see it go higher or much more then a nickel ...

Well looks like LaRoche is out again at 3rd base and although Vazquez is serviceable and Andy hasnt made to many plays in the field its still a live bat to miss ..

for me boiled down to SP :
Karstens is a marginal SP IMO and while he had success in Pitt last year always felt that Ohlendorf had much more potential and I am sure most did as well . he sort of won the 5th slot by default as he struggled all spring and said there are things he still needs to work on . Not exactly what I want to hear from a guy who doesnt have anything near + stuff . Cueto has loads of potential and looked solid down the stretch last season and had a solid camp by all accounts. Factor in could be a nasty weather day (think 80% chance of rain) and you have Cueto throwing 95+ wouldnt expect many comfortable atbats . Also not to take anything away from Carpenter this is a team that just managed 1 HIT on Thursday as well . Pitt has played 4 games already and Wilson and Morgan are the 2 keys so far and suprises as McLouth and Doumit are 3/20 so far . Now Carpenter threw a gem but 4 games deep they have 11bbs to 31 Ks and just 2 Hrs , .299 OBP , and .639 OPS ...simply not hitting well and reds led by Votto who was 15/38 off Pitt last year has started to swing better the past 2 days and granted its fair to say Votto has done alot of damage ...

Basically just see Pitt as 95 + loss team playing a cincy team which could be around 500 if the SP holds up ..with that I get the Pitt 5th SP vs what is possibly the best stuff of the Reds SP ...home field ...a young SP who should be better at home vs a Pitt team which was something like 28-60 last 88 as road pup and split a 4 game set at Busch ..also while I like owings he also faces Maholm next game and would think reds are focused on getting a little streak together and pull to 500 rather then be 1-3 facing Maholm on Saturday ...(thats very minor obviously)....

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news...t_id=4169406&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

also last year Cueto I believe was fairly solid vs Pitt think he may have had one poor outing in the 1st of his 3 starts vs them......when he hosted Snell last year was about -145 fav so this price seemed more then fair IMO ...(not cheap but fair)..

with Pitt dont trust them with Snell and Karstens on the hill..and vs STL thought Wainright , Lohse and Carpenter looked solid vs that lineup..:cheers:

 

[RetroVK]

Thanks nut .. might add it in the morning at a better price than i can get now. The 80% chance of rain worries me though too ... i dont like to play favorites based on starting pitching if the game might be delayed in the middle of my stud performance and the bullpen takes over ... and not a huge fan of the reds bullpen either.

agree on karstens .. serviceable is a great word to describe him.

sigh .. might hold my nose and bet in the mornin'.

good luck bud

 

[SteelBucsFan]

Pirates and Dodgers each facing a righthanded pitcher for 5 game in a row ....Bats could wake up

 

[SportsNut]

Alright fellas finally had a moment to get here ...

Up to this point nothing changed from what i listed last night except i decided to pass on milw (no suprise they led 1-0 early )...

pretty sure i played all that i listed and even added the uNDER grand salami runs which i think is something i am going to look at when the weather is chilly in april ..mental note ...so been playing some unders early as well and no score 1st inn props with mixed results ..

suprised to see Cincy rise to be honest ...also steelbucfans i for one think pitt has a decent team this year but no depth on ml roster . interesting to see how the prospects play out but there is some potential for that team to win 75 games in that division alot hinges on the consistencty of the sp and the lineup ...to often they have droughts ..

be back later :cheers:

 

[SportsNut]

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</TD><TD align=left>John Maine-S- Mets</TD><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 10px" align=right>Mar. 31 - 10:44 pm et</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ff5731" width=14>

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</TD><TD class=s_playerNewsText>John Maine picked up his first win of the spring after giving up two runs in 5 2/3 innings against the Marlins on Tuesday.
Cody Ross homered off him, and Maine was fortunate to walk just one batter against an overly aggressive Marlins lineup. Still, things are looking up for him compared to a couple of weeks ago. His velocity has mostly come back, and the command may be there during the first week of the season.




thought it was odd and interesting that maine would face the marlins in his last spring turn then open the season vs them......

really like the mets and under but now reconsidering the total more then side ... :cheers:
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[Blue_Chip]

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</TD><TD align=left>John Maine-S- Mets</TD><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 10px" align=right>Mar. 31 - 10:44 pm et</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ff5731" width=14>

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</TD><TD class=s_playerNewsText>John Maine picked up his first win of the spring after giving up two runs in 5 2/3 innings against the Marlins on Tuesday.
Cody Ross homered off him, and Maine was fortunate to walk just one batter against an overly aggressive Marlins lineup. Still, things are looking up for him compared to a couple of weeks ago. His velocity has mostly come back, and the command may be there during the first week of the season.




thought it was odd and interesting that maine would face the marlins in his last spring turn then open the season vs them......

really like the mets and under but now reconsidering the total more then side ... :cheers:

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i really like 908 und tonight. good eye!

 

[Tito]

john maine is going to have an awful year...gas can

 

[SportsNut]

9.5 is just high for these teams imo , both started out way lower vs inferior opponents ...

thinking about balt some ...tb has owned them winning the last 12 meetings but tb can be hit or miss away vs lhp(they did just beat lester) and tb off a nice series win @ boston maybe a tad flat seeing the ast history ? then again balts pen ouch ...

astros ml and under are plays : looks like both sp have had solid springs so also might look at 1st 5 inn under as well but dont think stl played all that well vs pitt and they didnt do much at all vs lhps maholm and duke ....houston didnt hit much at home in the opening series and struggled last year with the sticks on the road ...

-like the wsox but we cant forget about the last time these 2 meet can we ?? the great 1-0 elimination game to enter the playoffs ? home team owned this series as well ...I like chi guess i am concerned that minny is maybe highly motivated here but thats about the only knock really

under atl and 1st 5 inn as well ...lowe looked good and was very good vs wash last year ...atl pen rested despite the blowup last game had less then 7 inn in the series ...garrett and chipper are questionable ...also playing nats +1.5 because think runs will be at a premium and could see 3-2 ..

mets and under as i said ...

reds ML but not sure i like it at -170 ...

zona ml...okay ml debut and you are road chalk vs a veteran ?

seattle Ml ...sort of a fan of roland smith and again ml debut and fairly decent priced rookie ...oak hasimproved but didnt show any vs the 1st LH they faced in saunders ...

thats my latest update but the astros ml and -1.5 arl (even the pricey +1.5 rL) is clearly my dog of the day from whats left ..(have COL ML as my favorite pup of the day)..........:cheers:

if i didnt bold it still in the lean stage ..good luck

 

[SportsNut]

john maine is going to have an awful year...gas can

i love maine when he is on but he has had huge consistency issues ...his velocity is about where it should be and vs free swinging fla he needs to be around the plate ...you certainly could be right though ..gl bro:cheers:

 

[tuck321]

Problem with under in Cardinals is the next 2 games involve staff aces and Tony likes blow out losses especially in the first game. Note Franklin has pitched the last 2 days.

 

[Tito]

yea, i hope i'm wrong about maine (cept tonight, i'm on the over) - just think he and ollie are no good, again hope i'm wrong - ima mets fan...

on the reds @-140 - got them early and some on the rl

on the m's as well, and looking at the stros too


bol tonight nut!

 

[frankiegotti]

nut,

thanks for making these debate and discuss threads it makes for better betting on our end because it gives various points of view and critisism. I honestly look at this when i get up in the morning to see what I missed or may be taking.

With that thought in mind.....I am on the reds as well, the only thing that troubles me about this play is the fact that the pirates have been hitting very well and I really could see a scoring fest which I would not like.

I am going to put forth an assumption about cueto and say that he wants to get off to a great start much after a bad finnish last year. Cueto started off the year last year like a bat out of hell, so I think or I hope that he can do the same this year.

 

[spiderman]

-like the wsox but we cant forget about the last time these 2 meet can we ?? the great 1-0 elimination game to enter the playoffs ? home team owned this series as well ...I like chi guess i am concerned that minny is maybe highly motivated here but thats about the only knock really

I haven't (and probably won't) come to a conclusion on this game. Contreras has come back from his ACL injury, lost a lot of weight, but as impressive as his rebab has been, he hasn't been a good pitcher, and Minnesota will run all over him tonight if they are able to get guys on base.

Granted, the Twins are pitching Dickey so I don't have much confidence that he'll do a good job either...

My lean on this game would probably the OVER 9, but that's no gimmee if you've seen how bad the hitting has been for the White Sox.